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AllGamer said:
No Video Calling App!!
i was just about to make a video call in the SNS only to realized we don't have a build in app for that.
on the SGS the stock dialing app have the video call feature.
is there any 3rd party app to do the same?
or perhaps some one can port over the SGS calling app over for SNS ?
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Answered in the stickied FAQ in the Nexus S Questions & Answers section.
Bad mod, bad!
unremarked said:
Q: How do I video chat?
Google, unfortunately, did not develop a native app to support video chat and so we must rely on some from the marketplace. Right now, as far as I'm aware, Tango is the only one that has been updated to support video chatting on the Nexus S.
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I use Tango
http://www.appbrain.com/app/tango-video-calls/com.sgiggle.production
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There are a few video apps out...Tango being on the top of my mind right now. Yes, right now the video market kinda sucks for us but I'm expecting the void to be quickly filled by either Google directly via Google Talk and / or by Skype as well (they recently purchased Qik).
There are a number of threads / discussions about this very same topic. I would encourage you to venture over to the General section of the Nexus S and review some of the threads on this topic.
Its been and probably still is being discussed.

unremarked said:
Answered in the stickied FAQ in the Nexus S Questions & Answers section.
Bad mod, bad!
(P.S. no banhammers plzkthx. )
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Lol, classic

AllGamer said:
of course it works in America
Video Chat is one of the reason why Iphone is so hot in USA/Canada
Bell is also pushing this feature in Canada, with the release of Iphone/SGS I9000M
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You bash on Tango for not being true video calling and you mention the iPhone being hot item. The iphone's facetime is also like tango and is not true video calling (like you describe) it also only works with other iphone4/itouch4 only and wifi only.
You obviously here on the forum reading everything and this "topic" has been discussed before. Seems like you're just making a thread just to further point out/complain something you ALREADY know.
-Nexus S

sapienta said:
I use Tango
http://www.appbrain.com/app/tango-video-calls/com.sgiggle.production
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Does the job!

nxt said:
You bash on Tango for not being true video calling and you mention the iPhone being hot item. The iphone's facetime is also like tango and is not true video calling (like you describe) it also only works with other iphone4/itouch4 only and wifi only.
-Nexus S
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You forgot to mentions Macs. Facetime works with iPhone/Touch/Macs.
slowz3r said:
what we need is a universal video calling standard, apple initially said that it would make facetime for different platforms but that has yet to happen
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I doubt Apple is going to make anything for any other platform besides its own. They did mention opening up facetime so others can integrated or create apps based on it, but not actually make it work for other platforms.

And Tango blows chunks compared to FaceTime, say what you want about Apple but I have yet to see any Video calling App work as smooth as theirs. And yes I've tried Tango over WiFi it's still laggy and choppy.

Yeah tango sucks. I even tried it with my bosses iphone with my ns. It sucked on both ends, so its not a phone issue. Oovoo need to get off their fat... assets... and finish their ns compatibility. Theb we can even video chat to desktops!
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AllGamer said:
OMG.. not another one of these...
people makes up all kind of story, just because some one said something, that in truth they only wanted to advertize themselves (MobilityCity)
and people try to read in between the lines for things that might or might not be true.
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Made up story? It's a listing on the bluetooth certification website displaying a variant of a currently existing model.
ATT model is in the works and will be announce...probably within this week as it seems to be finishing up all it's certifications.

How come JCopernicus's thread is merged/moved and subsequently **** upon in like 4 minutes, and there are, what, half a dozen threads in Nexus S general that are out of place? Including a 27 pager that is the EXACT premise of this one..

Wow, AllGamer, you left your own Q&A thread in Nexus S general, moved JCopernicus's here (where it doesn't belong as its hard news NOT rumor).. its a wonder XDA has a NOOB problem, there is no rhyme or reason to any of this

Thread moved to Q&A.

egzthunder1 said:
Thread moved to Q&A.
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don't think this is the correct place for a discussion of a bug, as it's not a question, nor asking for help... but oh well whatever

simply because we don't need 7 open topics of the same thing
perhaps searching before posting in the future?

AllGamer said:
simply because we don't need 7 open topics of the same thing
perhaps searching before posting in the future?
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1. I searched the general section and NO thread came up with what was posted *see 3.
2. It wasn't a question that required an answer. (Don't get me started on how ridiculous the QA subsection is).
3. It is new information
4. ???
5. Profit.
I was actually looking for this thread exact thread in my search to post it, but because the QA section is a retarded idea I didn't look inside it. Aside from the fact this thread is from December 6th of 2010, and nearly 150 posts deep. Nobody would bother to look in here for new information even if it was posted.

not new information
it was already posted back on post #92
that's exactly why you search all sub forums not just General
and lets get back on topic, as this going pretty off topic as it is

AllGamer said:
not new information
it was already posted back on post #92
that's exactly why you search all sub forums not just General
and lets get back on topic, as this going pretty off topic as it is
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How is this going off topic since it has everything to do with the ATT Nexus S(the topic of this thread).
The new model variation IS new information, because it was just uncovered today. The announcement of it going to canada is news that has been posted already and is not what I was posting.

You mods need some major improvement in handling and organizing this forum.
Rather than actually cleaning up a mess, you guys just go even further in spamming the forum in trying to make a point. Jeez.
Ironically, the mod put the thread in the wrong forum. *high five*

Don't read this!

This is an updated thread for CM7 for the Inspire 4G.
The original thread by jznomoney was just getting out of date. But, there is a lot of information in its pages
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If you are not currently using CM7, do a nandroid of your current setup in case you do not like it.
Installation:
http://goo.gl/JJ4In (Detailed instructions for if you have never flashed before)
If you've flashed a rom before, read on.
If this isn't an upgrade from cm7 than you must wipe data/cache first
Go here to get the nightly:
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=ace
Gapps: (They package them separately to due to licensing restrictions)
http://goo.gl/r1VoW
Changelog:
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=ace
http://twitter.com/cmsrc
Known Bugs:
After first boot must restart to make wifi work.(i think you have to turn WIFI on first or it dosnt work, idk though) otherwise you'll be stuck in a crash loop. (to get out of the loop just quickly do a restart before it crashes again.)
BATTERY DRAIN!!!
if you actually like to have good battery life then you might want to invest yourself in one of these threads:
http://goo.gl/GrUlx (hrkfdn)
http://goo.gl/NyOQH (Mad-Murdock)
and im pretty sure Mad is now using hrkfdn's fix. so i dont think it matters which one you use. hrkfdn just uses a different kernal with overclocking. (i think, correct me if im wrong)
Radios:
After reading about im not sure if there is a right or wrong radio. but here are ones that seems to work:
12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M (my current radio)
12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M
Thanks goes to everyone who has been working on getting cm7 working right on the Inspire:
kali- Desire HD Maintainer
hrkfdn(awesome kernal/battery drain fix(WIP))
Mad-Murdock(Battery Drain fix(WIP))
Bumbl-Bee
TurboniumX (Correct Sound Fix)
attn1 Original Hack Kit
Neolobster for hosting the Hack Kit
anyone else I forgot

De'javu?
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symonc said:
De'javu?
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lol yea a little. but i was sorta tired of the same questions being asked on the other. we all know people arnt gonna read an entire thread. they want all the info in the first post. so i decided ill try and keep it updated with info to make it more friendly.

isaacfank said:
lol yea a little. but i was sorta tired of the same questions being asked on the other. we all know people arnt gonna read an entire thread. they want all the info in the first post. so i decided ill try and keep it updated with info to make it more friendly.
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Isaac,
thanks for stepping in to clean it up, maybe you can insert the tidbit about the recommended radio, it seems like that is one of the more frequently asked questions because a lot of people don't understand why certain things don't work when its all related to the radio.. etc etc. just a suggestion.

alvinswim said:
Isaac,
thanks for stepping in to clean it up, maybe you can insert the tidbit about the recommended radio, it seems like that is one of the more frequently asked questions because a lot of people don't understand why certain things don't work when its all related to the radio.. etc etc. just a suggestion.
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to be honest, i didnt know there was a recommended radio. seems like everyone says different.
but just to stop the questions, which one should i put?

isaacfank said:
to be honest, i didnt know there was a recommended radio. seems like everyone says different.
but just to stop the questions, which one should i put?
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LOL, thats true.. I guess I was just reading the Desire HD thread for CM7 and they recommended a certain older radio. but you're right we've all see multiple reports of them working. maybe put a list? like I am using the one in my signature, that seems to be fine, and I'm sure you're using a different one too..

Thanks for getting this more organized. One question I haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer to is the following:
Do the nightlies have the battery drain fix already? If so, which builds? If not, please update the first post when they do.
Thanks!
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I've tried a few different radios (stock, Telus, and I think Orange?) and all three have been great. Granted, I am in a well-covered area where reception is rarely an issue. The radios seem to effect my reception far less than they did with my Samsung Captivate.

isaacfank said:
lol yea a little. but i was sorta tired of the same questions being asked on the other. we all know people arnt gonna read an entire thread. they want all the info in the first post. so i decided ill try and keep it updated with info to make it more friendly.
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Call me old fashioned, but I've always found the benefit of a bigger thread contains a lot more answers and possible solutions.
"Search This Thread" is insanely powerful.
Maybe a thread on "How to find an answer to your issue before you become the 83rd person to ask THAT question" would be beneficial.
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symonc said:
Call me old fashioned, but I've always found the benefit of a bigger thread contains a lot more answers and possible solutions.
"Search This Thread" is insanely powerful.
Maybe a thread on "How to find an answer to your issue before you become the 83rd person to ask THAT question" would be beneficial.
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they have that. problem is, people need a post explaining how to use that. then they need a post to explain when to use it. then they need a post to remind them to read the for-mentioned posts.
we all cant act like we've never done it. we were all noobs at one time.lol

3GOD said:
Thanks for getting this more organized. One question I haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer to is the following:
Do the nightlies have the battery drain fix already? If so, which builds? If not, please update the first post when they do.
Thanks!
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it has not been implemented yet. but last i heard they are dang near close to a final fix. we'll find out tomorrow im guessing.

symonc said:
Call me old fashioned, but I've always found the benefit of a bigger thread contains a lot more answers and possible solutions.
"Search This Thread" is insanely powerful.
Maybe a thread on "How to find an answer to your issue before you become the 83rd person to ask THAT question" would be beneficial.
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Although I personally believe a new thread was needed, symonc has a point. Isaac, perhaps you should provide a link to the old thread and just state it is for reference purposes at this point? You can remove it within a few weeks, as the information will be long obselete; but for right now it may help .

RC2 had an issue where every time you rebooted, your SD card would be nuked. Has that been fixed?
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TheBassman369 said:
RC2 had an issue where every time you rebooted, your SD card would be nuked. Has that been fixed?
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Well mine is still all fine and stuff, but it was fine also with rc2 restarts, so idk what it'll do to you.

good copy and paste from my thread. You could have at least mentioned my name.

Billabong81 said:
Although I personally believe a new thread was needed, symonc has a point. Isaac, perhaps you should provide a link to the old thread and just state it is for reference purposes at this point? You can remove it within a few weeks, as the information will be long obselete; but for right now it may help .
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Cyanogenmod is a product of cyanogen and teamdouche, who are active on XDA developers forums. It's up to teamdouche, and specifically the device maintainers to decide when it's time to clean up their own threads, and not some random person from the forums. Because the OP has no special access or insight, threads like these are where a great deal of disinformation comes from.

Well I linked to your post. But now your name is in there too.
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attn1 said:
Cyanogenmod is a product of cyanogen and teamdouche, who are active on XDA developers forums. It's up to teamdouche, and specifically the device maintainers to decide when it's time to clean up their own threads, and not some random person from the forums. Because the OP has no special access or insight, threads like these are where a great deal of disinformation comes from.
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And my disinformation is what? Ill gladly change anything. I'm just trying to help the community that wants to run and test cm7.
I said in the last post of the last one. If they want to update the other one then by all means do that and delete this one. But until then I'm going to maintain this thread to help and inform.
I'm not out to get anyone or anything. Its just that this is a relatively new device on the market and has new users all the time.
Just informing my fellow testers.
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Not flaming but you guys should've given the op of the other thread a heads up. He does work closely with CM and has insight as attn1 said. He's one of the reasons it was ported over from the desire hd section.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

I did. I pmed him yesterday while he was online. Also he did have 2 weeks to update. He shouldn't need our request to do it.
Now can we get back to actually taking about cm7
I'm on 22 and I didn't see the wifi crash loop. Can anyone confirm?
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Useless Thread... Needs to be deleted... Until then it's about PONIES!

This was originally a pointless post about the progress of Revolutionary, but now it is about Ponies. So feel free to post whatever you like I guess lol.
By the way I know this is a horse but it's funnier than a pony.

I vote we change topics before things get ugly. This thread is now about ponies.
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I hope the op has a flame retardant suit on... it's gonna get hot in this thread...
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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Too funny man.
via EVO.

github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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Lol....I so needed that!
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I'll contribute $1000 to the OP's root bounty. Word!
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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No need to be a d*ck about it. I just thought the other noobs like me would like to see that progress has been made. Glad to see XDA members supporting each other...

If noobs would read they wouldn't need threads with misleading topics like this one.
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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This must be some kind of rom or theme with ponies....amiright?
who cares what this says anyways

Any pony screenies? I would like to see some lol
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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dude this is Fu(ked up, I just flashed you "my little Pony" kernel with sbc, and my GD phone caught on fire.... "they" were right about this sbc stuff, but nice work on the development of EvO !!! ummmm just had to....

bigslanki said:
Any pony screenies? I would like to see some lol
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I don't think XDA is the place for rule 34.

Oh, just trade your EVO in at Target Mobile or Best Buy, get $150 for it, and pick up a 3D for $50 bucks.

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No need to be a d*ck about it. I just thought the other noobs like me would like to see that progress has been made. Glad to see XDA members supporting each other...
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Oh come on, you posted a BS thread with a misleading title and you call US dicks. Go screw dude, eff around on androidcentral and stop wasting our time

skatrwannabe3 said:
Oh come on, you posted a BS thread with a misleading title and you call US dicks. Go screw dude, eff around on androidcentral and stop wasting our time
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First, it is not a misleading title. The thread was for people with no experience sifting through all the jargon to be able to have a place to look for updates for their Evo; a "Glint of Hope" so to speak. Wasn't XDA originally designed to help people like that? Now it seems as though it's just a bunch of pricks like you who like to tear down anyone who tries to provide help or asks an inexperienced question. Second, there is no "us". It is you, skatrwannabe3, to whom I am referring to as a ****. If you don't like my thread, then get off of it. End of story. I reported the thread anyway so it will hopefully be deleted soon and free up space on your precious forum. This is my last post on this thread. It was a waste of my time and I now know how XDA works thanks to it. Don't ask questions. Don't post information. Because people like skatrwannabe3 and github will ruin it for you and everyone else...

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Oh, just trade your EVO in at Target Mobile or Best Buy, get $150 for it, and pick up a 3D for $50 bucks.
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That's with a two-year upgrade, which a lot of us don't have.

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First, it is not a misleading title. The thread was for people with no experience sifting through all the jargon to be able to have a place to look for updates for their Evo; a "Glint of Hope" so to speak. Wasn't XDA originally designed to help people like that? Now it seems as though it's just a bunch of pricks like you who like to tear down anyone who tries to provide help or asks an inexperienced question. Second, there is no "us". It is you, skatrwannabe3, to whom I am referring to as a ****. If you don't like my thread, then get off of it. End of story. I reported the thread anyway so it will hopefully be deleted soon and free up space on your precious forum. This is my last post on this thread. It was a waste of my time and I now know how XDA works thanks to it. Don't ask questions. Don't post information. Because people like skatrwannabe3 and github will ruin it for you and everyone else...
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People need to cool it, I know you're frustrated that you don't have root, but please stop taking it out on each other. This forum is worse than working for AT&T customer service!

The main problem is that your post is old news. It also doesn't belong in development because you aren't developing anything. Furthermore the subject of your post has been discussed numerous times since the tool was released. Therefore I see no point in your post, so now we are talking about ponies.

github said:
The main problem is that your post is old news. It also doesn't belong in development because you aren't developing anything. Furthermore the subject of your post has been discussed numerous times since the tool was released. Therefore I see no point in your post, so now we are talking about ponies while you're getting butthurt over our comments. Did that clear things up or do you need more?
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I could not care less about the comments. It's that you altered my thread which wasn't meant for senior members to even use as a reference. I have indeed seen it posted for other devices but not under Evo. I figured it would be news to some. I am sorry for making a noob post. I am trying to get the thread deleted so it won't waste space anymore. Now get the hell over it and let's move on. Proceed with your ponies lol.

Now that's a better reply.
We (most) are just having fun with you for posting it here. The ponies was nothing compared to what you could have seen from others. Don't take the lulz personally, it happens to the best of us. Just remember, a bit of common sense on XDA saves one from ponies (and/or worse).
Now that the dust has settled, you can PM a forum mod if you still want the thread deleted. Pick one: toastcfh, rolfd, or josefcrist. If you want actual discussion, you might repost this over in General or Q&A and hope for the best.
P.S. "jordanetodd" your AT&T comment was funny.
P.P.S. edited some of my comments, even though the originals are still quoted by others

ISIS

As has been discussed in other forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2047927), ISIS has gone live with the OTA JB for Verizon. I have discussed my experiences in the above thread, but I am starting this thread in the development section, because what I want to know is more relevant to this forum.
Somewhere along the way installing ISIS, I came across a message saying ISIS will not work on rooted devices. I have heard that elsewhere as well. My question is, how true is that? will it no longer work as soon as I root? even if I just root and stay stock and not change ROMs? Is there any way around that? Perhaps can you deny root access in SuperUser/SuperSU to ISIS?
I know many people are just going to say get Google Wallet instead, but believe it or not, I like ISIS better and what to keep it!
Has anyone tried getting to work on rooted or any custom ROMs?
Until now I haven't had a desperate need to root, but I'm planning on going abroad soon and I'm going to need APN access so I can continue to use my phone with a local SIM.

levilib said:
As has been discussed in other forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2047927), ISIS has gone live with the OTA JB for Verizon. I have discussed my experiences in the above thread, but I am starting this thread in the development section, because what I want to know is more relevant to this forum.
Somewhere along the way installing ISIS, I came across a message saying ISIS will not work on rooted devices. I have heard that elsewhere as well. My question is, how true is that? will it no longer work as soon as I root? even if I just root and stay stock and not change ROMs? Is there any way around that? Perhaps can you deny root access in SuperUser/SuperSU to ISIS?
I know many people are just going to say get Google Wallet instead, but believe it or not, I like ISIS better and what to keep it!
Has anyone tried getting to work on rooted or any custom ROMs?
Until now I haven't had a desperate need to root, but I'm planning on going abroad soon and I'm going to need APN access so I can continue to use my phone with a local SIM.
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Dude, this is absolute bull****. You knowingly ignore the rules. You have not"developed"anything! Get this damn post moved! You know better
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans

neh4pres said:
Dude, this is absolute bull****. You knowingly ignore the rules. You have not"developed"anything! Get this damn post moved! You know better
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
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WOW! calm down! It's very nice of you to jump to conclusions about me knowing better!
Yes, you're right, I haven't developed anything and I explained why I posted this in the development forum, If a moderator still thinks that it does not belong in this forum, move it by all means!
Now, I don't suppose you have an answer to my question do you?

levilib said:
WOW! calm down! It's very nice of you to jump to conclusions about me knowing better!
Yes, you're right, I haven't developed anything and I explained why I posted this in the development forum, If a moderator still thinks that it does not belong in this forum, move it by all means!
Now, I don't suppose you have an answer to my question do you?
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I assure you, the rules are very very clear. This in no way belongs here.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans

Wow calm down no need for this type of attitude just report it. You don't need to dive down his neck an cuss chill out its not the end of the world as you seem to think there's other ways of saying you posted this in the wrong form
the first idiot to brick an go to xda jail

Yeah I know I'm sorry I just concerned of ops feelings it was a little hatch but your right I am making a fool of myself thanks for carrying also if any one ain't gonna help him with a answer then don't post just report it to the mods myself included thanks
the first idiot to brick an go to xda jail

cvbcbcmv said:
Dude chill.. it doesn't belong here but still... You're making a fool out of yourself.
How about: I'm sorry but I don't have an answer to your question. However, I just thought I'd let you know that this forum is meant for development related things, such as roms, mods, etc. Just thought I'd let you know.
And that's how a human being does it!
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+100 wow someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
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Thanks I needed that
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levilib said:
WOW! calm down! It's very nice of you to jump to conclusions about me knowing better!
Yes, you're right, I haven't developed anything and I explained why I posted this in the development forum, If a moderator still thinks that it does not belong in this forum, move it by all means!
Now, I don't suppose you have an answer to my question do you?
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NEVER do question threads EVER go In Development. Read rule 15 about Where to Post.
Thread moved

neh4pres said:
I assure you, the rules are very very clear. This in no way belongs here.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
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So apply for moderator title, until then STFU and quit being a douche! Just like the other guy said report it.

Now that the threads been moved and the ranting is over, back to my question...
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[Mini-rant] Why is there no originality?

I'm a little upset. Other than the very few ROM's such as Omni, there is NOTHING original. 99% of threads in the Original Android Development section have a little paragraph that reads "We are dedicated to optimising performance while trying to maintain battery life" or the other way around yet the dev(s?) do NOTHING to the ROM other than maybe replace a few system apps or add a few init.d scripts and somebody elses kernel. Not only that, but most devs use "we" and yet the chances are there is probably only one "developer".
There should be a rule that states "If you can't bring anything new to the table, don't create a thread."
They are all the same. Nothing new. Nothing different. Pure AOSP builds with no modifications whatsoever.
/rant

abtekk said:
I'm a little upset. Other than the very few ROM's such as Omni, there is NOTHING original. 99% of threads in the Original Android Development section have a little paragraph that reads "We are dedicated to optimising performance while trying to maintain battery life" or the other way around yet the dev(s?) do NOTHING to the ROM other than maybe replace a few system apps or add a few init.d scripts and somebody elses kernel. Not only that, but most devs use "we" and yet the chances are there is probably only one "developer".
There should be a rule that states "If you can't bring anything new to the table, don't create a thread."
They are all the same. Nothing new. Nothing different. Pure AOSP builds with no modifications whatsoever.
/rant
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Pure AOSP should be in "Android Development" not "Original Android Development". It's compiling not developing. If they add substantial feature improvements over and above what google provides on the project, fair enough - It's "Original" but otherwise, not.
I haven't taken any time to look at AOSP threads myself, because I'm new to the Nexus range so want to see what stock has to offer for a while, but as and when I find something I feel is not original, I'm not shy - I'll report it.

abtekk said:
I'm a little upset. Other than the very few ROM's such as Omni, there is NOTHING original. 99% of threads in the Original Android Development section have a little paragraph that reads "We are dedicated to optimising performance while trying to maintain battery life" or the other way around yet the dev(s?) do NOTHING to the ROM other than maybe replace a few system apps or add a few init.d scripts and somebody elses kernel. Not only that, but most devs use "we" and yet the chances are there is probably only one "developer".
There should be a rule that states "If you can't bring anything new to the table, don't create a thread."
They are all the same. Nothing new. Nothing different. Pure AOSP builds with no modifications whatsoever.
/rant
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So make something original then.

_MetalHead_ said:
So make something original then.
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I'm not here to talk about my ability, that wasn't the point of this thread, was it? I was pointing out at the fact the threads out there are just duplicates.

If you don't think any of the ROMs are worth installing, then don't. It's entirely up to you. I do agree with you in a way, a lot of the ROMs are little changed from stock, but sometimes the little changes are nice. Everyone works hard on here for free, I don't think they deserve any complaints
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abtekk said:
I'm a little upset. Other than the very few ROM's such as Omni, there is NOTHING original. 99% of threads in the Original Android Development section have a little paragraph that reads "We are dedicated to optimising performance while trying to maintain battery life" or the other way around yet the dev(s?) do NOTHING to the ROM other than maybe replace a few system apps or add a few init.d scripts and somebody elses kernel. Not only that, but most devs use "we" and yet the chances are there is probably only one "developer".
There should be a rule that states "If you can't bring anything new to the table, don't create a thread."
They are all the same. Nothing new. Nothing different. Pure AOSP builds with no modifications whatsoever.
/rant
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i like to get upset over people spending their free time to create ROMs.

What about ParanoidAndroid? The CM team is also planning amazing stuff for CyanogenMod.

Zepius said:
i like to get upset over people spending their free time to create ROMs.
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My point is, most people seem to compile AOSP and call it their own. It's not. It's nothing different from the last 10 people that did the same thing. I have a lot of respect for those that do actually create something.

darkgoon3r96 said:
What about ParanoidAndroid? The CM team is also planning amazing stuff for CyanogenMod.
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Of course. They are actual developers, they get my respect as they bring originality. I'm bothered by those that do nothing and claim to do everything.

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What about ParanoidAndroid? The CM team is also planning amazing stuff for CyanogenMod.
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I think his point is, there are many roms in the original android category that are not original. Compiling AOSP and doing nothing is not original. It should be categorised correctly and put in the correct forum Android Development.
It's pointless separating the 2 forums if people put everything in the original forum, even if its not.

I have to say, right out of the box this phone is pretty fantastic.
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0dBu said:
I have to say, right out of the box this phone is pretty fantastic.
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It is. That's why I wanted to stay stock. I wanted deodexed though for easy customisation.... and I knew exactly where to get it... "Android development". When people misuse the forums, we end up with neither of them meaning anything

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I agree to an extent, granted the phone has only been out for a couple of weeks so I don't think we'll see original ROMS immediately. I'm hoping we get PA or AOKP support sometime soon though.
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I think a lot of the problem is from how easy it is to develop/build for this phone so a lot of aspiring developers can at least start something whereas other phones have loads of stock ROM based ROMs then the occasional AOSP build but because nexus get AOSP support straight away and you can't port proprietary Samsung/HTC etc binaries so we can't have as big a variation of ROMs.
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rootSU said:
I think his point is, there are many roms in the original android category that are not original. Compiling AOSP and doing nothing is not original. It should be categorised correctly and put in the correct forum Android Development.
It's pointless separating the 2 forums if people put everything in the original forum, even if its not.
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The 'Original Android Development' section is meant to be for ROMs based on AOSP code and original work (kernels, mods, etc), the 'Android Development' section is for ROMs based on the official factory images - at least that's what it used to be when the two sections first appeared on here. It now seems to have been blurred a little...

EddyOS said:
The 'Original Android Development' section is meant to be for ROMs based on AOSP code and original work (kernels, mods, etc), the 'Android Development' section is for ROMs based on the official factory images - at least that's what it used to be when the two sections first appeared on here. It now seems to have been blurred a little...
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I see where you're coming from but the original statement from xda doesn't mention aosp per se.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
Reading the statement, aosp would be original but only if:
built from the ground up with significant original development within them
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So certainly to my mind, a vanilla aosp build is not original. Other than the compiling, its not even the posters own work...
I think there are grey areas as you say but obvious aosp builds with little to no additional development work I see as black and white
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This is stupid "you worked hard to bring us some options devs, but its not good enough for me.." That's all I see here.. This should be closed.
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capcanuck said:
This is stupid "you worked hard to bring us some options devs, but its not good enough for me.." That's all I see here.. This should be closed.
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I think you've misread / misunderstood the thread
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