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How does the Touch Pro work as an Mp3 player?

Hi!
After many years of windows mobile, ive had an iPhone (so sorry) for a month now, and im going back to WinMo (through the HTC Touch Pro) now.
However, what I loved with the iPhone is how it integrated well as an mp3 player. However, I remember when I tried to use the Touch Dual as an Mp3 player, it sucked the battery big time! (10-15 minutes of playback drained 10% of the battery at least).
Just wondering if this is still an issue with the Touch Pro? Or if mp3 playback is not such an power consuming activity any more?
Anyone here use their Touch pro's or diamonds for music regularly?
Thanks!

I use mine almost daily for biking and still have roughly 75% left after 2.5-3 hour workouts. I do turn off all data connections and am only running the HTC music player from the today screen.

Thats not too bad! Definetly better than my previous experiences! Have to get a mini-jack converter though ofc. lol

I use AD2P Bluetooth headset, it works very nicely
The only thing that I'm missing is the absence of Shake-Control, to changhe the current track without turning on the screen or using any keys.

Ya do need to use the mini-jack convertor. I bought the one that has the 3.5 jack and mini usb for charging. It works pretty good but sometimes briefly cutsout when I am riding hard. Wish it had the 3.5 as standard. Sounds like HTC is getting smarter with the HD.

any other experiences concerning battery usage of the mp3-player?
EDIT: Ive also heard that if you have lots mp3's on the device, the touchFLO will have a tough time when trying to load it all up!

My MP3 setup
I just use MP and I use a2dp headphones (big DJ style Motorola ones) Sound is great and I use voice command to control what I'm listening to or the buttons on my headphones. Batter life seems fine when using mp3, but overall the battery life on my Touch Pro is pretty poor.
A2DP (stereo bluetooth) is a joy to use.

619619 said:
I use AD2P Bluetooth headset, it works very nicely
The only thing that I'm missing is the absence of Shake-Control, to changhe the current track without turning on the screen or using any keys.
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A true A2DP headset has track change controls on it...
Try the Sony DR-BT22 headset, really small and compact folding headset with good Bass quality and integral mike for call answer and pairs perfectly to the Touch Pro.

Battery life on the Touch Pro is quite good considering the technical specifications! However, as I mentioned, I currently (untill I get my Touch pro tomorrow) have an iPhone, which does have a great mp3-player!
Just wondering.. It seems Touch Pro checks for all mp3 files each time you access the music player, even through touchFLO, and ive read that if you have a lot of music this will take a while and is annoying if you access your music player a lot!
Thanks!

Untouchab1e said:
Battery life on the Touch Pro is quite good considering the technical specifications! However, as I mentioned, I currently (untill I get my Touch pro tomorrow) have an iPhone, which does have a great mp3-player!
Just wondering.. It seems Touch Pro checks for all mp3 files each time you access the music player, even through touchFLO, and ive read that if you have a lot of music this will take a while and is annoying if you access your music player a lot!
Thanks!
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It only checks for new files if any changes have been made. I have over 4Gb of music on my SD card and after the first library update, it never had to check again.
Tad better than the old manual library update you Had to do in Media player every time you changed something.

So even with 4GB of music, there are no slow downs etc?
Btw, how well does music playback work when you are using your device? Does the music start chopping the moment you start using another app as well, etc? Remember my Touch Dual had some choppiness.. lol

Untouchab1e said:
So even with 4GB of music, there are no slow downs etc?
Btw, how well does music playback work when you are using your device? Does the music start chopping the moment you start using another app as well, etc? Remember my Touch Dual had some choppiness.. lol
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Not that I've noticed. Only glitch I've ever come across was when connecting to USB for activesync (using BT headset) but this is really understandable as Async is processor heavy and needs multiple file access.
A good Equaliser would be preferred for use with BT as the standard included only works when wired is connected. There is a tweak available to fool the unit into thinking the wired HS is on but this dissappears on soft reset.
Still, overall I am quite pleased with this as battery life is better than other HTC products. Had a second Touch Pro in my office desk (evaluating them for a project) for 8 days on standby when a call came through on it!!

The slowdown happens when you add new music to the memory card (specifically, after you disconnect "Disk Drive" mode or when you turn the device on and TF3d loads). How much of a slowdown depends on how much music you add at a time, but once it's scanned the files and updated the library database, the slowdown doesn't occur again.
Listening to mp3s in the background while using other applications is possible, but it's not perfect. As a point of reference, I've had no problems listening to music and using Opera. However if there are some extra background apps, chopping can occur. But on the bright side, it always seem to be relatively brief, and so far hasn't caused my device to lock up or crash. I haven't done any precise or extensive testing, so naturally YMMV.
+1 for the Raphael battery not being great, but the TF3d music player not using very much power.

i charge my phone during work, then i turn on music and proceed to take an hour train ride back home, check some email and continue to listen to music for a couple of hours til dinner; afterward setup new appointments and crap for the next day, then more music for hour or two, then go to sleep without charging. next day the 3 alarms ring for the full length, then the hour train ride to work with music again. 35% +/-4% remaining when i get to work. the cycle continues

Thanks for your experience! Gives me great confidence in getting one! Just hoping I can find a mini-jack converter in time

Untouchab1e said:
Thanks for your experience! Gives me great confidence in getting one! Just hoping I can find a mini-jack converter in time
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im NOT saying the headphone came with raphael is decent in any way, but i would use it over my ipod headphone...

A2DP question
Just wondering with the touch pro, does the device slow down when using A2DP? I have a hermes and whenever I use mortplayer with A2DP the device is almost non-responsive even though the music sounds great.

Farsquidge said:
A good Equaliser would be preferred for use with BT as the standard included only works when wired is connected. There is a tweak available to fool the unit into thinking the wired HS is on but this dissappears on soft reset.
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Hi. Where do I find this tweek?

newbro said:
Just wondering with the touch pro, does the device slow down when using A2DP? I have a hermes and whenever I use mortplayer with A2DP the device is almost non-responsive even though the music sounds great.
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I think it's actually very good - no slowdowns that I've noticed. For example listening to music with my SE HBH-DS980 A2DP-headset and browsing through RSS-feeds I can't detect any slowing down or choppiness, neither in music playback nor RSS-browser. Also I think the UI stays (almost) as responsive as ever.

Corsa2 said:
Hi. Where do I find this tweek?
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mkhattab has collected a few tweaks (sticky in Diamond thread) that work for the Touch Pro also.
Enable Audio Booster without headset-->HKLM/System/State/Hardware/Headset set the value to 1 (soft reset will bring it back to 0)
I prefer adding individual reg edits via a reg editor rather than one of the Tweak packages as I had BT connection problems with my Infiniti handsfree after using Schap's advanced configuration tool.
This one is a simple little gem that does not use up memory. Run it on your PC when connected via Async.

Omnia 7 headset

Hi everyone, does the omnia 7 headset have a controller integrated to adjust volume and fast forward or backward music?
If not are there other headsets that are compatible and can do that?

It can adjust volume but no music control unfortunately...

Thats not really true.
You have three buttons:
"-","+" (for volume) and a third one.
One click on this button will pause/unpause
Two clicks will skip 1 track forward (back is not an option)
If the music is paused you can click and hold to start a voice action to call someone.

"If the music is paused you can click and hold to start a voice action to call someone."
Thanks ! I will try this but it sounds strange... I would like to "voice action" without having first my music playing... Anyway thanks for the tips because I was wondering how to use voice action with my headset

alexd83 said:
"If the music is paused you can click and hold to start a voice action to call someone."
Thanks ! I will try this but it sounds strange... I would like to "voice action" without having first my music playing... Anyway thanks for the tips because I was wondering how to use voice action with my headset
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No thats not what I meant
If there is no music on and you tap and hold then you can make a voice action to call someone.
Sorry for explaining it so unclear

that's so awesome, thanks
i will use the headset now
but i find that you don't have to pause the music..if you hold it down, it will pause for you and resume after!

hboos said:
that's so awesome, thanks
i will use the headset now
but i find that you don't have to pause the music..if you hold it down, it will pause for you and resume after!
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ah cool didn't know that, thx

001mic said:
Thats not really true.
You have three buttons:
"-","+" (for volume) and a third one.
One click on this button will pause/unpause
Two clicks will skip 1 track forward (back is not an option)
If the music is paused you can click and hold to start a voice action to call someone.
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Cool thanks for the explanation, my one comes on Monday - can't wait.
Moving one track forward is all I need (play music shuffled all the time)

001mic said:
Thats not really true.
You have three buttons:
"-","+" (for volume) and a third one.
One click on this button will pause/unpause
Two clicks will skip 1 track forward (back is not an option)
If the music is paused you can click and hold to start a voice action to call someone.
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three click replays the current track from the beginning. shame, i was hoping it would take me to the previous track.

normal behaviour on all player. 3 click mean previous button. do it once and it takes you to the beginning of the track. do it again and it takes you to previous track

Three clicks takes you to beginning of current track, 3 clicks again (reasonably quickly - like within the first 5 secs of a track) takes you to previous.
Dammit - this came up twice - see below

AF241 said:
three click replays the current track from the beginning. shame, i was hoping it would take me to the previous track.
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Not quite. 3 Clicks with a track like half way through takes you to beginning of that track. Three clicks within first 5 secs of a song takes to previous track (so you just 3 clicks to beginning then 3 clicks to previous.

so lets say, just like the iphone..thats awesome! will buy a new headphone then. used to listen to music on iphone with beats studio, but that thing is just ****

anyone know of a good inline remote that works with the phone apart from the on with the headpohnes that come with it? I have jabra clipper that works very well but i have to keep rembering to charge it so a inline remote would be good anyone know of one that wokrs

I'm using the Headset that was shipped with the HTC 7 Trophy as i lost my original headset and could not find any other headset with all the functions working.
"RC E160" is the HTC Part number.

Thanks im really after one that lets me use my own headphones like my jabra clipper. Problem with that is the battery in it only last 5 hours

I was so happy after I found out the RC can switch tracks, but the heaphones are so crappy on Omnia 7 that I would just use them for emergency ... no mid range frequencies at all!

these samsung headphones are a rip off! its been like 3 months and guess what? one speaker has stopped working and now the other is breaking up..jeez. I cant believe these manufacturers, they expect us to pay like £20+ on a new headphone, with its weak, flimsy thread like wire..no wonder they screw up. They need to give it a thicker double wiring.
Amy recommendations on a headphone ?

using blackbeat from alteclansing (bluetooth a2dp)

sid8810 said:
these samsung headphones are a rip off! its been like 3 months and guess what? one speaker has stopped working and now the other is breaking up..jeez. I cant believe these manufacturers, they expect us to pay like £20+ on a new headphone, with its weak, flimsy thread like wire..no wonder they screw up. They need to give it a thicker double wiring.
Amy recommendations on a headphone ?
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I use a Jabra BT620s, works great if you're into music (its a little bulky for just phone calls ) Works via Bluetooth (A2DP)
Edit: doh, just realized that by now the 620s is an older model, not sure if it's still for sale :-(

[Q] Slow/unresponsive media controls from smartwatch/Android Wear or lock screen

Hitting various media controls on my smartwatch (previously Pebble, now Android Wear both via built-in media functions and Music Boss), my Bluetooth car stereo, or the lock screen, including play/pause, next, and back (or even turning off my car which should automatically pause playback) is incredibly unreliable for me.
I find that at MOST, half the time these buttons work as they're supposed to. The rest of the time there's a delay ranging from a couple of seconds to over a MINUTE. And they accumulate, so I can hit next, not hear any change, hit next again, and then a minute later my music will skip two tracks. Or I hit pause, think it didn't work, hit it again, give up, go to my app directly, pause it, and 30 seconds later it plays again, then pauses.
I find pretty much the only thing that tends to clear this up is restarting my phone, which is usually not convenient to do at the times I need this to work most (like while driving).
I didn't have this problem at all with Jelly Bean on my Nexus 4, and I feel like the problem was rare, if at all, on my 5 with 4.4 through 4.4.2. It was 4.4.3 that seemed to make it a severe and constant problem, and it's held through 4.4.4. And as noted, the problem transitioned from my Pebble to my Android Wear, and since the same thing happens with lockscreen controls, I feel confident it's my phone/OS and not the watch. I'm stock, rooted, FYI.
Any thoughts? I've done a ton of Googling and gotten surprisingly nowhere.

I've noticed this too. For me it seems to have started happen after I got my Android Wear watch, and didn't happen when I just had the phone connected to my car bluetooth. I wonder if having the phone connected to multiple bluetooth controllers at once is causing the issue ?

Interesting thought. Might explain why I was also experiencing it with my Pebble.

Tested this theory by connecting my car stereo through the aux jack instead of Bluetooth and disconnected my phone from its Bluetooth connection. No improvement. At first it was responding right away, which it does sometimes, and then the next time I tried to use it it took a good 30 seconds before my actions registered.

This has been happening to me for a few months. I find that the only reliable way to immediately adjust the playback controls is from within the app. Lockscreen, Bluetooth devices, notification controls, corded play/pause via headphones are all unreliable. But the attempts to play pause are all cumulative and with the aforementioned lag, even if I successfully pause from within the app. So I think I've paused the player, but a minute later it may start playing again. Really embarrassing at times. Not rooted, and switching default players hasn't helped.

Socold said:
This has been happening to me for a few months. I find that the only reliable way to immediately adjust the playback controls is from within the app. Lockscreen, Bluetooth devices, notification controls, corded play/pause via headphones are all unreliable. But the attempts to play pause are all cumulative and with the aforementioned lag, even if I successfully pause from within the app. So I think I've paused the player, but a minute later it may start playing again. Really embarrassing at times. Not rooted, and switching default players hasn't helped.
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Glad I'm not alone, although disappointed you don't have a solution either. And yes, it's very embarrassing to try to show off this technology and have it fail, or worse have it fail at the wrong moment. Sometimes I get out of my car, walk into a building, and THEN the commands catch up and the music starts blaring from my pocket. Good thing I don't listen to Gangsta Rap.

[Q] Headset buttons problem

Hello guys, I have a very strange problem with this phone when I use a wired Samsung headset that came with my Galaxy S4. The headset has 3 buttons, 2 for volume control, and 1 for whatever else (calls, pause/skip tracks, etc).
Basically whenever I plug it in and start the music with a press of a button, it seems to work sort of properly, but every now and then, the track pause/skip button starts acting like a Volume UP buttons, and just makes it louder with every click. Does the same thing regardless of the music app. I generally use PowerAMP. My device is rooted, but no custom ROMs have been installed.
This problem is really annoying, and I would really appreciate any information on how to fix it. If you require any additional information, I would be happy to provide it.

Anyone?

M49MuM.357 said:
Hello guys, I have a very strange problem with this phone when I use a wired Samsung headset that came with my Galaxy S4. The headset has 3 buttons, 2 for volume control, and 1 for whatever else (calls, pause/skip tracks, etc).
Basically whenever I plug it in and start the music with a press of a button, it seems to work sort of properly, but every now and then, the track pause/skip button starts acting like a Volume UP buttons, and just makes it louder with every click. Does the same thing regardless of the music app. I generally use PowerAMP. My device is rooted, but no custom ROMs have been installed.
This problem is really annoying, and I would really appreciate any information on how to fix it. If you require any additional information, I would be happy to provide it.
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Yeah I was having this issue on and off for awhile. I use 5.0 and it seems to be fixed for it.

eqbirvin said:
Yeah I was having this issue on and off for awhile. I use 5.0 and it seems to be fixed for it.
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I'll try to use 5.0, thanks!

Going to submit a mass software bug report to Essential

And Im gathering as much info as I can into one centralized area. If you have experienced something that isn't already on the list, please feel fee to chime in here or on reddit . I'll be copying and pasting links from here to the report as well. I was gonna submit tomorrow but since I'm late to the party here, I'll send it Thursday evening. Thanks a lot everyone!
https://www.reddit.com/r/essential/comments/70m7j4/software_issues_and_bugs_to_be_reported/

It seems like I can't remove the Hotspot quick settings tile. I remove it and then it's back again.

Bug reports
I find the keyboard misses a few vibrations on tapping letters, around 2 out of 10 taps.
Casting a movie to my TV stalls and stutters after about 10 minutes every time I try to watch a movie.

johnny8910 said:
Casting a movie to my TV stalls and stutters after about 10 minutes every time I try to watch a movie.
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That shouldn't matter with the phone. I find that odd. Casting is nothing more than a web browser, more or less. The phone sends a URL to the Chromecast, then the Chromecast plays that URL and the phone is completely disconnected from what happens next other than the playback controls. Phone isn't playing anything, isn't transmitting data, etc. unless you're mirroring your screen or the app is actually streaming from the phone. I'd try a different app, use a speed test app on the chromecast, and do some other troubleshooting there.

Okay thanks. Will try a different app.

johnny8910 said:
I find the keyboard misses a few vibrations on tapping letters, around 2 out of 10 taps.
Casting a movie to my TV stalls and stutters after about 10 minutes every time I try to watch a movie.
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Change the vibration back to system default and that issue is remediated
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Yep.
You are right. Fixed, thanks ?

My Bose QC25 headphones seem to be incompatible with the USB-C/3.5mm adapter.
It seems like the volume down button is constantly being held down. As soon as I plug it in, ringer volume goes to vibrate.
In-line mic does not work.
Any in-line button press seems to reduce ringer volume and occasionally calls up google assistant.

jnmacd said:
My Bose QC25 headphones seem to be incompatible with the USB-C/3.5mm adapter.
It seems like the volume down button is constantly being held down. As soon as I plug it in, ringer volume goes to vibrate.
In-line mic does not work.
Any in-line button press seems to reduce ringer volume and occasionally calls up google assistant.
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Bose QuietComfort 25 Acoustic Noise Cancelling Headphones for Apple devices?
If they use the Apple remote function, they are not compatible with Android.

tech_head said:
Bose QuietComfort 25 Acoustic Noise Cancelling Headphones for Apple devices?
If they use the Apple remote function, they are not compatible with Android.
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I am using the Android cable. They work fine on other phones with 3.5mm jack.
However, on my previous Zenfone3 with USB-C, I used the Essential adapter and get the same results. It has to do with the adapter.

This will be going out to essential today at around 7pm pst so if there's anything I missed or anything you all wanna add, do yo thang

I have a problem with Bluetooth audio streaming to my car. I cannot rewind or fast forward. If I try to switch to the next/prior track the sound goes away, but it looks like my Google play music app is still playing. If I re-pair or switch inputs and go back to streaming, the audio plays again.
I can't replicate this problem with either my Google pixel or my wife's iPhone.

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I have a problem with Bluetooth audio streaming to my car. I cannot rewind or fast forward. If I try to switch to the next/prior track the sound goes away, but it looks like my Google play music app is still playing. If I re-pair or switch inputs and go back to streaming, the audio plays again.
I can't replicate this problem with either my Google pixel or my wife's iPhone.
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I have this issue as well, Also, what you said about the changing tracks, that happens to me as soon as a song ends, and not just with google play music, but with amazon music as well. And while my LG V10 and Moto G4 will send track names and album art to my radio, the PH-1 does not.

Sorry for the late response but everything has been added to the bug report and sent off to Essential. They got back to me with a response, "The whole Essential team monitors /r/Essential pretty religiously, and I know the SW team is looking at the thread. We love that you guys compile stuff like this, as it really does help us make a better product..."

Fingerprint reader gone to sleep
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/fingerprint-reader-day-t3679908
Hi guys. I exchanged my Essential Phone yesterday (hardware defect) and now on my second device I still get this random fingerprint reader bug. Once in a while I take my phone out of my pocket and the fingerprint reader doesn't work. I have to press the power button to wake it up.

mhajii210 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/fingerprint-reader-day-t3679908
Hi guys. I exchanged my Essential Phone yesterday (hardware defect) and now on my second device I still get this random fingerprint reader bug. Once in a while I take my phone out of my pocket and the fingerprint reader doesn't work. I have to press the power button to wake it up.
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thanks! added

Fingerprint sensor
I have used all 5 instances of the fingerprint scanner for the same finger in multiple positions while holding the phone. Works fine once or twice but then all of a sudden won't recognize my fingerprint, have to use the pattern to unlock and even then I usually have to reboot the phone in order for the sensor to recognize my fingerprint and after a few times it goes back to not recognizing the fingerprint again. Essential phone ph-1
And yes I have cleaned my hands and fingers and cleaned the sensor multiple times with no change to effectiveness.

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I have this issue as well, Also, what you said about the changing tracks, that happens to me as soon as a song ends, and not just with google play music, but with amazon music as well. And while my LG V10 and Moto G4 will send track names and album art to my radio, the PH-1 does not.
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Try going in developper settings and change avcrp version to 1.3. reboot phone. This worked for my phone + mazda 3

i have done a clean install twice of the latest 8.1 my issue is that sometimes answering the phone it defaults to speakerphone.. but the speakerphone button isnt pressed.. i have to toggle it on then off again before it will switch to the ear piece. also casting seems to only work after a fresh start of the phone.. alcast wont find a device till i restart.. nev2r an issue on 7.1
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stinger4321 said:
i have done a clean install twice of the latest 8.1 my issue is that sometimes answering the phone it defaults to speakerphone.. but the speakerphone button isnt pressed.. i have to toggle it on then off again before it will switch to the ear piece. also casting seems to only work after a fresh start of the phone.. alcast wont find a device till i restart.. nev2r an issue on 7.1
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This isn't an Essential issue, this a Google dialer issue.