I was just wondering if there are any people who installed an other OS than windows 8 on the Surface pro 2, like Ubuntu, fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE or Android...?
Ubuntu worked on SUrface Pro 1 (not perfect, but it worked...), so whats with the sp2?
there wasnt any issue with ubuntu on SP1 besides drivers for touch/wacom. Both the surface pro and pro 2 are normal windows laptops essentially shoved into a small frame and both wacom and capacitive digitisers stuck over the top. There is nothing bizarre or strange about them preventing another operating system from running.
I read there were also WiFi-Issues... Have anyone installed Ubuntu or Fedora and can make a short Video?
THanks, fredopato
fredopato said:
I read there were also WiFi-Issues... Have anyone installed Ubuntu or Fedora and can make a short Video?
THanks, fredopato
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That would also come under drivers, although I did overlook WiFi
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Hi everyone!
EeePad transformer is for me a real good tablet and it would be perfect if it could fit my regular computer use. That's why i'm asking if there is a way to put windows 7 (not windows phone 7) on it...Like a kind of dual boot...
I know there are way to put ubuntu on a HTC Desire HD, but i think its different...
Thanks for your help.
Afraid not. Windows 7 does not (and will probably never) support the Tegra 2 platform.
You could connect to your Windows PC using RDP/VNC though - maybe that will be usefull for your purposes.
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Though you might eventually be able to put ubuntu on it... maybe that would serve your purposes?
There's no ARM version of Windows 7, so this isnt possible just yet though Windows 8 will have an ARM version.
Ubuntu, and other Linux flavours, do have ARM versions, so I wouldn't be surprised if Transformer specific ports turn up sooner or later.
Regards,
Dave
Windows 8 should have ARM support......and tablet mode...
But will the 1GIG ram be sufficient is another thing.
But there is an Windows Embedded (NOT Windows Phone/Mobile) out there which supports ARM and it supports all windows 7 Programms/Driver. so it could be a nice alternative?
Nope. Windows CE/Embedded/Phone doesn't support Windows 7 programs or drivers (and vice versa). Windows 8 for ARM will have the same problem (unless they add some emulator).
Typical Windows applications are written for x86 (Intel, AMD) platoform ONLY. Some Java and .NET applications can be run on other platforms but it's another story.
IE10 shown running on Windows 8 with NVIDIA Tegra
Check this out....should answer allot of ??
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=9954
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Though you might eventually be able to put ubuntu on it... maybe that would serve your purposes?
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and so? how we can install ubuntu in eee pad trasformer? i'm serius!
Asus makes a slate that dual boots Android & W7.
can you post a link to this dual booting table? I would love to be able to put windows 7 on the transformer
Look for Asus Slate on google, it's not hard. It doesn't have Android though - but you could probably install and dual boot Android x86 (there is no HoneyComb version of it yet, but Intel probably works on it).
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Look for Asus Slate on google, it's not hard. It doesn't have Android though - but you could probably install and dual boot Android x86 (there is no HoneyComb version of it yet, but Intel probably works on it).
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Asus slate is too expensive, who wants $1,300 tablet, that too with windows?
they are really crazy a tablet of $1300 its really expensive... and useless...
vivi7 said:
and so? how we can install ubuntu in eee pad trasformer? i'm serius!
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It has to do with processor compatibility.... Ubuntu supports ARM platform
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I was going to say this will never be possible, although theoretically it should be possible to get Windows 7 to run on the transformer but it would probably be slow as hell.
Here's my idea: Install Ubuntu on the tf, (compile and) install virtualbox, install windows 7 virtually, profit!
Hi all. Im sure that Surface is powerful device.I am a developer and I use VS and SQL server.I'm asking to you guys that surface can work well? I mean,for instance,Im working on a project on my desktop with these programs,can I be able to run my project in surface perfectly?
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I'm almost sure that you won't be able to use those on the RT ARM version (AFAIK there aren't even ARM versions of VS and MSSQL, at the moment).
Also, Visual Studio is something badly heavy... so I doubt that they will compile it for the ARM tablet.
About the x86 Surface, well, it's an Core i5, 64bits! There will run almost everything.
If it works on any windows 8 i5 laptop, it will work in surface pro. Avoid surface RT like the plague though.
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If it works on any windows 8 i5 laptop, it will work in surface pro. Avoid surface RT like the plague though.
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Maybe in the future there might be an Visual Studio Express addition for Windows RT.
They managed to port entire kernal from x86 to ARM and VS is a x86.
But the biggest problem is probably legacy DLLs and realy old stuff, that is probably not ported to new core OS.
That means, Microsoft needs to figure out, how to enable ARM desktop development without those old stuff.
I think this is the primary reason, why Windows RT desktop isn't opened for 3rd party developers.
They probably rewrote only specific DLLs to ARM, just enough to make Office work.
I wish, but however seems very unlikely! Personally wouldn't want to use a tablet to code on anyways. but would be fun for little things!
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Hi all. Im sure that Surface is powerful device.I am a developer and I use VS and SQL server.I'm asking to you guys that surface can work well? I mean,for instance,Im working on a project on my desktop with these programs,can I be able to run my project in surface perfectly?
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Well you can use visual studio for windows 8, and then compile it for ARM, using the remote debugger which you install on windows RT. But it can only develop metro apps.
The only way to use VS and MS SQL on Surface RT at the moment is via Remote Desktop
Surface Pro will run everything (though of course it's thicker, heavier, and won't last as long on battery).
I use RemoteApps for SQL Server Management Server, IIS, and more. It works beautifully.
I haven't tried Visual Studio yet.
Thank you OP. I wanted to ask the same question. In addition to that, does the W8 RT have an emulator to mount .img's? If so, you can use the 2008 Visual Studios image file. it works well with my android tab
Any one know is it possible to install ubuntu for tablets on Surface or Asus vivo tab? Any work in this direction?
are we talking ARM or x86. Both the surface and vivotab are available in either version.
For the ARM tablets (surface RT and vivotab RT) then no.
For the x86 tablets, still no as ubuntu for tablets is for ARM at this moment in time. It could probably be recompiled for x86 though. Also you already have access to full ubuntu anyway.
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are we talking ARM or x86. Both the surface and vivotab are available in either version.
For the ARM tablets (surface RT and vivotab RT) then no.
For the x86 tablets, still no as ubuntu for tablets is for ARM at this moment in time. It could probably be recompiled for x86 though. Also you already have access to full ubuntu anyway.
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Hi SixSixSevenSeven
Not that I know the answer.
But you say the ARM version of ubuntu will not work on Surface RT.
Can you please explain why this will not work?
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Hi SixSixSevenSeven
Not that I know the answer.
But you say the ARM version of ubuntu will not work on Surface RT.
Can you please explain why this will not work?
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UEFI secure boot and driver signing.
The surface has been locked down so it will only boot into code signed by microsoft. Ubuntu is not signed by microsoft so will not boot.
Maybe one day someone will find a workaround hack. When that day comes you may then be able to have ubuntu on the Surface RT. Right now though it is not possible to run anything other than Windows RT. It might take months or even years before someone finds an exploit that we can use or it might never happen. If thats what you want to do on your device then maybe the surface RT isnt for you.
The surface pro (intel core i5 which is an x86 chip) however can have its secure boot disabled in the control panel and does not need driver signing. Being a regular x86 device the pro is not actually any different from any other laptop or desktop you have bought and provided with either a bootable USB stick or a USB optical drive will run the full version of ubuntu.
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UEFI secure boot and driver signing.
The surface has been locked down so it will only boot into code signed by microsoft. Ubuntu is not signed by microsoft so will not boot.
Maybe one day someone will find a workaround hack. When that day comes you may then be able to have ubuntu on the Surface RT. Right now though it is not possible to run anything other than Windows RT. It might take months or even years before someone finds an exploit that we can use or it might never happen. If thats what you want to do on your device then maybe the surface RT isnt for you.
The surface pro (intel core i5 which is an x86 chip) however can have its secure boot disabled in the control panel and does not need driver signing. Being a regular x86 device the pro is not actually any different from any other laptop or desktop you have bought and provided with either a bootable USB stick or a USB optical drive will run the full version of ubuntu.
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Thanks for your feedback :good:
I think this answer make it clear for at lease me
I just got my surface 2 and I love it. I was just wandering if it supports adb for android?
No
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No
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Why, have you tried? Its a full pc with USB surely just a case of installing drivers?
Edit: whoops thinking surface pro
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Why, have you tried? Its a full pc with USB surely just a case of installing drivers?
Edit: whoops thinking surface pro
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Nailed it on last line. ADB works just fine on the pro/pro2 as they are literally just ultrabooks with the motherboard behind the screen which also happens to be a 10" touchscreen.
THe surface RT/surface 2 on paper are physically capable of doing it. Windows RT with either a signed ADB binary or jailbreak and signed/jailbroken drivers could feasibly run the ADB plus all the windows tablets so far (ARM and x86) have USB capability (even most of the ones from years ago running windows 2000 etc had USB). Its getting those drivers and the ADB itself though. ADB doesn't build in under MSVC (the compiler for C/C++ in visual studio). MSVC is the only compiler we have which can target windows desktop on ARM. I think it actually relies on cygwin, which we most certainly do not have for ARM. There are a few open source ADB device drivers out there, most are not though, even so they also wont build under MSVC. SO in theory windows RT could do it, in practice we don't have the tools to do it.
Just wondering I read that there are development on running unbuntu on the TF700 (dual boot I think?)
what is the status of that and how stable/reliable is it? It would be great if I can run linux on it and have a true desktop experience.
also any word on if anyone ported Windows 8 RT on this thing? there is an asus table+Dock that have similiar specs to the tf700 that runs Windows RT.
Andriod + Unbuntu + Windows RT triple boot would be a wet dream for me
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Just wondering I read that there are development on running unbuntu on the TF700 (dual boot I think?)
what is the status of that and how stable/reliable is it? It would be great if I can run linux on it and have a true desktop experience.
also any word on if anyone ported Windows 8 RT on this thing? there is an asus table+Dock that have similiar specs to the tf700 that runs Windows RT.
Andriod + Unbuntu + Windows RT triple boot would be a wet dream for me
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Linux runs great, other than a workaround needed for sleep, pretty much everything thing else works fine. Kexecboot allows for multiboot of pretty much anything, ubuntu, android and ubuntu touch (no reason it wouldn't work if the kernel is patched for kexec, but afaik it hasn't been tested). The only way we would ever be able to run windows rt is if Microsoft/ Asus released the tf600 firmware, bootloader etc (will never happen).
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Linux runs great, other than a workaround needed for sleep, pretty much everything thing else works fine. Kexecboot allows for multiboot of pretty much anything, ubuntu, android and ubuntu touch (no reason it wouldn't work if the kernel is patched for kexec, but afaik it hasn't been tested). The only way we would ever be able to run windows rt is if Microsoft/ Asus released the tf600 firmware, bootloader etc (will never happen).
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from searching it seems like only Unbuntu linux can run on it. but the youtube videos I seen are like 8 months old and the development on thread on XDA seems to be closed for some reason.
In this state is Unbuntu fast/stable enough to be used as a daily driver?
can I get software from the software center app like how unbuntu is on my desktop or do the apps have to be designed specifically for the arm version of unbuntu? (I'm trying to get stuff like libre office, adacity and gimp running on it)
where is the latest info on dual booting to it? I got cromix 5.2.3 installed.
sorry if I seems to ask too much I'm still new to this
THANKS FOR THE HELP AND HAPPY HOLIDAY!
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from searching it seems like only Unbuntu linux can run on it. but the youtube videos I seen are like 8 months old and the development on thread on XDA seems to be closed for some reason.
In this state is Unbuntu fast/stable enough to be used as a daily driver?
can I get software from the software center app like how unbuntu is on my desktop or do the apps have to be designed specifically for the arm version of unbuntu? (I'm trying to get stuff like libre office, adacity and gimp running on it)
where is the latest info on dual booting to it? I got cromix 5.2.3 installed.
sorry if I seems to ask too much I'm still new to this
THANKS FOR THE HELP AND HAPPY HOLIDAY!
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Basically any armhf distro will run, debian, gentoo etc but it will require prepping the rootfs to work with our solution. For now ubuntu 13.04 and arch linux are supported, also its pretty easy to use debootstrap to setup up your own debian based rootfs.
ubuntu/ linux can be easily used as a daily driver, we have working 2d and 3d acceleration so it feels like your working on an ordinary notebook.
Packages need to be compiled for armhf, but pretty much everything is compatible(all your above examples work fine.)
For info, look in the threads started by @workdowg in the general section, we also have kexecboot, which is more flexible but does require some setting up