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Which NFC tags are you guys using me and my brother are wanting to buy a pack of them. I mean the Xperia Tags, the LG Smart tags and the Samsung Tectiles are the ones we will split the cost for.
I plan on having one in my car for Music or Google Maps to launch and one by my bed for the alarm to turn on.
So what do you guys think is better or are using from the Sony LG and Samsung NFC tags.......?
dvirring said:
Which NFC tags are you guys using me and my brother are wanting to buy a pack of them. I mean the Xperia Tags, the LG Smart tags and the Samsung Tectiles are the ones we will split the cost for.
I plan on having one in my car for Music or Google Maps to launch and one by my bed for the alarm to turn on.
So what do you guys think is better or are using from the Sony LG and Samsung NFC tags.......?
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Be aware that the nexus 4 (and 10) has a different NFC (Broadcom BCM20793 NFC) controller. The vast majority (all?) of previous android nfc devices has a NXP controller ...and Mifare Classic tags uses proprietary protocols developed by NXP ....so, they are not compatible with the nexus 4 / 10 ...
--> the samsung tectiles are mifare classic tags, so I wouldn´t recommend them for a nexus 4 or nexus 10!
--> sony smarttags (mifare ultralight) should be compatible, but are quite small ...
--> LG, don´t know which technology they use ...
Bottom line: try to get NFC Forum Type 1, Type 2, Type 3 or Type 4 compliant tags and stay away from mifare classic tags with your nexus 4 ...
I couldn´t give you a more detailed advice, which tags to buy, because i prefere to re-use write protected nfc tags, like my library card
I bought these ones from eBay and they work very well for me. Got a couple around the house and in my car.
I have no idea what type mine are but I have a bunch from the XDA keychains from the Big Android BBQ. These ones.
They work really well. And XDA TV they show you that it's possible to open them up and remove the sticker. Now I've got one in my car dock and one in my desk dock.
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Be aware that the nexus 4 (and 10) has a different NFC (Broadcom BCM20793 NFC) controller. The vast majority (all?) of previous android nfc devices has a NXP controller ...and Mifare Classic tags uses proprietary protocols developed by NXP ....so, they are not compatible with the nexus 4 / 10 ...
--> the samsung tectiles are mifare classic tags, so I wouldn´t recommend them for a nexus 4 or nexus 10!
--> sony smarttags (mifare ultralight) should be compatible, but are quite small ...
--> LG, don´t know which technology they use ...
Bottom line: try to get NFC Forum Type 1, Type 2, Type 3 or Type 4 compliant tags and stay away from mifare classic tags with your nexus 4 ...
I couldn´t give you a more detailed advice, which tags to buy, because i prefere to re-use write protected nfc tags, like my library card
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I have Mifare Classic from tagsfordroid.com and they work great on my nexus 4.
ascsa said:
Be aware that the nexus 4 (and 10) has a different NFC (Broadcom BCM20793 NFC) controller. The vast majority (all?) of previous android nfc devices has a NXP controller ...and Mifare Classic tags uses proprietary protocols developed by NXP ....so, they are not compatible with the nexus 4 / 10 ...
--> the samsung tectiles are mifare classic tags, so I wouldn´t recommend them for a nexus 4 or nexus 10!
--> sony smarttags (mifare ultralight) should be compatible, but are quite small ...
--> LG, don´t know which technology they use ...
Bottom line: try to get NFC Forum Type 1, Type 2, Type 3 or Type 4 compliant tags and stay away from mifare classic tags with your nexus 4 ...
I couldn´t give you a more detailed advice, which tags to buy, because i prefere to re-use write protected nfc tags, like my library card
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agtitan said:
I have Mifare Classic from tagsfordroid.com and they work great on my nexus 4.
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I also have Milfare Classic tags (from Tags For Droid via Amazon.com). They work just fine.
I'm using NTAG203 from RapidNFC and they are working fine.
Yes, you can use the ID for some apps (like nfc retag ) , but you can not read or write MIFARE Classic 1k tags... At least theoretically and with my testing Nexus 4 device on 4.2....
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I also have Milfare Classic tags (from Tags For Droid via Amazon.com). They work just fine.
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The only thing that can be read from Mifare tags is the UID, and that can be used to trigger actions using an app like NFC Task Launcher, but you can't actually read or write any data to the tag.
You can test this out with a tag and the app NFC Smart Q, or by trying to write a tag with a Nexus 4 and read it with a GNex or other NFC device. I've tested this pretty thoroughly.
Basically, if a tag is Mifare compatible or a Mifare tag, it'll kinda work, but not properly with a N4.
Without special needs (outdoor, metal) NTAG type will be best choice for most. Newest type with highest ScanStrength.
With the Xperia smartTag app, you can use the tags on a very differente way. It doesn’t write anything to the tag, it just associates a set of commands with the found ID/URL. May be interesting for some.
I bought a kit of them from tagstand.com back when I purchased my Galaxy Nexus and have a few left over. I just tried them out with my Nexus 4 and they seem to work, though I've only tried the ones with their old logo on it, I believe they are all Type 2 though and should work fine.
TheSoupNazi said:
I bought these ones from eBay and they work very well for me. Got a couple around the house and in my car.
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What phone and program you use?
Could you guys point me to somewhere to read up on how to program NFC tags and how to use them on the phone. My N4 is the first device I have had with NFC so I want to catch up to all the cool things I can do with it. Here I was thinking it was only used to pay for coffee 0.o
This might show you how
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What phone and program you use?
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Nexus 4, NFC Task Launcher
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I got some free samples of TI Tag-it NFC tags.
Ended up with 5 standard (23 message bytes) and 5 plus (250 message bytes) NFC chips, that are about the size of a US quarter.
The standard ones are quite slow (have to hold the phone over the chip while it takes a few seconds to read it), while the plus ones are quite a bit faster.
I have just set up an NFC tag using the free tag that comes in the AT&T Sony TL box.
I got a dozen tags from Tag Age (http://www.tagage.net/) roughly 2 years ago and they have worked great with my NS, using NFC Task Launcher (prob an older version. got it way back when the dev was first working on it on XDA).
I get the most use from a bedside tag for clock/sleep (until I got the official NS dock) and a tag on my universal car dock for Bluetooth and car mode.
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This might show you how
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Thank you that actually was informative. Not I just need to come up with some uses.
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I bought these ones from eBay and they work very well for me. Got a couple around the house and in my car.
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Can you program to those? According to another seller, they don't work with the Nexus 4. The model seems to be one letter off (1108 vs 11R08), but that may be a typo. Also, that seller says these are Mifare classic, but in this page it's implied that the S50 is something else and that it is compatible with the Nexus 4 and 10.
Just double checking cause I'm getting some.
Hey Gang,
Just want to make sure all the S4 owners know that Mifare Classic Tags are NOT fully compatible with the new Galaxy S4 since it used the Broadcom NFC Chip. Mifare Classics are the most affordable and inexpensive and are compatible with previous Galaxy models (S3, Note, Note 2) but are NOT fully compatible with this new S4.
NTAG203 tags are fully compatible with ALL NFC phones including the new Galaxy S4!
Any NFC Tag that adheres to the NFC Forum protocols will be fully compatible so stick to those. Of those, the most popular and affordable are NTAG203 Tags which work great and have about 137 bytes of usable memory. This will be enough for almost any NFC App EXCEPT the official Tectile App which uses way more memory than it should. I'd suggest not using the Tectile app - there are many better NFC apps!
The 137 bytes on the NTAG203 tags is also enough to create a basic contact sharing tag with Name/Business/Email/Phone, but if you're wanting a full business card with name/business name/street address/website/email/phone/etc then 137 bytes probably won't cut it. (TIP: Install the NFC by MOO app - type in all the info you want on the tag and see how many bytes you need BEFORE buying).
Another tag that is gaining popularity is the Topaz 512 which is also fully compatible with ALL NFC phones and has 512 bytes of actual memory and about 480 bytes of usable memory. This should suffice for the Samsung Tectile app as well as holding all your business info. However, these are more expensive than the NTAG203 tags and will be overkill for most applications as the NTAG203's have plenty of memory for most task launchers or basic contact info.
There are other NFC Chip formats out there - any that adhere to the NFC Forums Type 1 or Type 2 compatibility protocols will work with the Galaxy S4. But based on what's readily available and popular the main thing to remember is that Mifare Classic Tags are NOT compatible with the S4; NTAG203 Tags and Topaz 512 Tags ARE fully compatible!
Hope this info proves helpful and keeps some people from wasting money on tags that aren't compatible.
Found this out the hard way. I have a bunch of mifare tags that I used pretty extensively with my skyrocket and my express and they just plain don't work with the s4. You just get an error that says "tag not supported."
Thanks for the additional info. If you search the forums you will see that there is already a couple of informative threads about this issue but more information is always welcome.
I wish I found this earlier .. I bought 5 tags off ebay and their the Mifare tags and just tried them out on my GS4 with no luck, good job they didnt cost much.
Thanks for the info about which tags actually work with GS4:good:
I used tectiles on my S3 and it was a bummer to find out it does not work with my S4. Thanks for the info :good:
Yeah....tagsfordroid are NOT compatible either. Lol. I got 10 cool stickers anyway.
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sd_N said:
Yeah....tagsfordroid are NOT compatible either. Lol. I got 10 cool stickers anyway.
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This is not true. TagsforDroid sells NFC tags that are compatible with S4s, you just can't use the Mifare tags (as has been explained).
Ok, since this is the general forum, Im gonna ask a newb question... what can a user do with a NFC tag? I thought they were the type of things that I can just wave my phone at in starbucks to buy a cup of coffee with, but Im guessing they are something else altogether?
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This is not true. TagsforDroid sells NFC tags that are compatible with S4s, you just can't use the Mifare tags (as has been explained).
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OK...thanks for the info. I thought they sold only one type. Haven't checked back with them since the new NFC stuff. Appreciate the heads up.
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I just wrote toggle mobile data on/off, Wi-Fi on/off blocking mode on/off, & auto sync on/off using one NFC chip. These things are nice. I did not use Samsung's model.
I use tags from tagstand.com with my S4 in conjunction with the NFC task launcher app. They are compatible.
P.S. This thread should be under Accessories.
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Ok, since this is the general forum, Im gonna ask a newb question... what can a user do with a NFC tag? I thought they were the type of things that I can just wave my phone at in starbucks to buy a cup of coffee with, but Im guessing they are something else altogether?
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To put it short, they are little tags with chips in them that u can program on ur phone and when u place ur phone next to them it automate tasks on your phone, like I want my gps to turn on and my navigation to open up all without touching/pressing any buttons. so I can stick one of these on my car cradle and when I dock it, it does the tasks. But theres many other things u can use them for.. these have a few ideas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867596
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4gRrh0OCME
NFC Cover
Do you need NFC cover to make it work like on Note 2?
morow said:
Do you need NFC cover to make it work like on Note 2?
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not for the Galaxy S4...cus its built into the phone already
edit..actually the Note 2 shouldnt need a cover too because its built into that as well
NFC Cover
sonyman81 said:
not for the Galaxy S4...cus its built into the phone already
edit..actually the Note 2 shouldnt need a cover too because its built into that as well
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Thank you. My girlfriend has a Note 2 and she bought the flip cover with the NFC, I thought you have to have a cover with the NFC to make it work.
sonyman81 said:
not for the Galaxy S4...cus its built into the phone already
edit..actually the Note 2 shouldnt need a cover too because its built into that as well
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just fyi, the note 2 comes with the nfc antenna attached to the battery cover i.e. it is not built into the phone.
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just fyi, the note 2 comes with the nfc antenna attached to the battery cover i.e. it is not built into the phone.
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You are right. But hey we are on the s4 not the note 2. Its unrelated to what he wants to know. Ill post a link in a few of the tags I got. 7$ for 10 of them. And it was $2.99 shipping. Comes from Canada. https://www.tagger.ca/shop/
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oh right..didnt know, I dont own a note 2....I just looked it up on wiki and it said it had nfc so I assumed it was built in, my bad...thx for correcting me
Good info here. Thanks.
sonyman81 said:
oh right..didnt know, I dont own a note 2....I just looked it up on wiki and it said it had nfc so I assumed it was built in, my bad...thx for correcting me
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i think you're thinking of the wireless charging Qi.
Hello all. Hope you are enjoying your N5s. Yesterday I bought a cheap streaming box ( PANASONIC - DMP-MS10EB-K ) with miracast capabilities. Unfortunately I can not get miracast to work.
There are YouTube videos of the device working with the note3 and s4 as well as nexus 7, but no joy for me and my lovely N5.
Has anyone got miracast working? If so what device are you using?
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At which step is it not working for you?
I'm using a Sony Bravia smart TV and worked right away!
Be sure to enable miracast on your phone though, it's under display settings, "Wireless Display" has to be ON.
It is enabled on phone. My phone does see the Panasonic device and starts connecting. The TV screen shows that it is trying to connect also then after about 30 seconds the Panasonic disappears from the list on the phone and then I get unable to connect.
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The Panasonic is still not working so I will get different device. Any suggestions?
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I have just bought the DMP-MS10EB-K too and I can't get it to work with my Nexus 5. I get the same problem as you describe.
I have my Nexus 7 (2013) in work and I will test it tomorrow but I have seen videos of it working Nexus 7 to DMP-MS10EB-K.
I will post if it works later.
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I have just bought the DMP-MS10EB-K too and I can't get it to work with my Nexus 5. I get the same problem as you describe.
I have my Nexus 7 (2013) in work and I will test it tomorrow but I have seen videos of it working Nexus 7 to DMP-MS10EB-K.
I will post if it works later.
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This thing is Rubbish. I tried a Note 2, Galaxy s3, Surface pro and Surface 2. Non work. It just connects for a couple of seconds then disconnects with no picture at all. Really annoying. Would be nice to get a list on this thread as to which devices do work. If any?
gersrt said:
This thing is Rubbish. I tried a Note 2, Galaxy s3, Surface pro and Surface 2. Non work. It just connects for a couple of seconds then disconnects with no picture at all. Really annoying. Would be nice to get a list on this thread as to which devices do work. If any?
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I will get my Nexus 7 and XPS12 which I think has miracast and post the results tomorrow. If I have no luck I think I will be taking it back. Its a shame really as its pretty good at dlna and Netflix. There is a video on YouTube with a guy using it with Samsung phones and a Nexus 7.
Think he might be a reseller of some sort. Did you see his review on Amazon, talk about Over the top its ridiculous. Sounds like he is selling them to me. Besides he doesn't show the device on youtube or how he connected. Very suspect. Let us know how you get on cheers.
Well I suppose it is good to know that it is not just me having problems. What to try next?
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Only had time to test for 10 minutes. Nexus 7 2013 connected after a couple of attempts. I could flick the menu's around fine with minimal lag and was impressed. I then tried to play some video and the MS10 froze on two occasions and I had to pull the plug to restart it.
I will play around with the settings and test some other devices tomorrow.
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Only had time to test for 10 minutes. Nexus 7 2013 connected after a couple of attempts. I could flick the menu's around fine with minimal lag and was impressed. I then tried to play some video and the MS10 froze on two occasions and I had to pull the plug to restart it.
I will play around with the settings and test some other devices tomorrow.
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cool thanks mate keep us posted.
cheers
I have tried the Rocketfish Miracast Video Receiver using my Nexus 5. I have no problem connect to my old LG HDTV( no CEC support, cannot change the receiver setting). It mirror the games( Asphalt 8, Sonic Racing, Riptide GP2) I played on Nexus 5 with little lagging. Mainly I want to show pictures and family video of my phone to TV, I found it works fine for me.
Hi, I've also tried with my smart tv LG 42lm620s, but without luck.. I see the TV on N5, when I try to connect to TV, on TV I see the loading bar for the connection, but after some time (~20sec) TV outputs an error of "device not compatible" and TV disappears from N5 list.
I sent an email to LG, still waiting for response....
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I bought a Panasonic BluRay player with built in Miracast support yesterday and cannot get it to work with my Nexus 5. They 'try to connect' and then it fails with my N5 freezing every time. Adding to my frustration is the fact that my N5 is completely stock with only root & a custom recovery.
Also, it works perfectly with my stock, unrooted Galaxy S 4 & my Nexus 4 running Slimbean. Short of installing Slimkat, which will eventually happen, does anyone have any ideas for getting this working?
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Oui!
gersrt said:
This thing is Rubbish. I tried a Note 2, Galaxy s3, Surface pro and Surface 2. Non work. It just connects for a couple of seconds then disconnects with no picture at all. Really annoying. Would be nice to get a list on this thread as to which devices do work. If any?
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Exactly the same here. Note 2, Nexus 5, Surface 2 Pro, all fall on this device. It seems to disconnect from wireless and then goes AWOL like a banana. Waiting for a response from Panasonic as this is clearly an issue with them, not with the Nexus 5.
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Panasonic UK does not recommend that customers attempt their own repairs. Instead, we suggest that the product is submitted to an authorised service agent for attention. Those in your local area can be found through our website.
We trust that the above information will be of assistance to you. However, of course, if you should have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Alright people: I don't know, if this is the right place, but I'll just post here...
So I recieved this last week and tried it out immediately... But: it doesn't work properly. I got it to work for 2 seconds but then the TV always says 'no signal'... I tried it on 2 different TVs but it's the same on both. It also doesn't work on my nexus 7 (2012) stock, rooted and also not on a complete stock nexus 7 (2012). So I want to know, if i need to enable something of if it is a hardware bug and also if anyone else has this problem.
Thanks to u guys who help me
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Mmh i don't know personally, but i have at home an MHL cable i want to know if i can mod the cable to work on Nexus 5
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Mhl is not compatible with any new Nexus devices: it's used by Samsung only so it will work with the Galaxy Nexus.
Slimport adaptors are compatible with Nexus 4, 5 and 7 (2013 only), so its normal that you can't get your 2012 nexus 7 to work.
Instead, it should be perfectly working with a Nexus 5, since no previous configuration is required.
In my case, the first time I connected my N5 to my HDTV via Slimport adaptor it took about ten seconds to see the home screen of my phone, but since then, it has always worked just after connecting it.
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pgptheoriginal said:
Mhl is not compatible with any new Nexus devices: it's used by Samsung only so it will work with the Galaxy Nexus.
Slimport adaptors are compatible with Nexus 4, 5 and 7 (2013 only), so its normal that you can't get your 2012 nexus 7 to work.
Instead, it should be perfectly working with a Nexus 5, since no previous configuration is required.
In my case, the first time I connected my N5 to my HDTV via Slimport adaptor it took about ten seconds to see the home screen of my phone, but since then, it has always worked just after connecting it.
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Thanks, I forgot about the nexus 7... well, i think i have to try it again, maybe i didn't wait long enough... Again thanks!
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I didn't have to wait very long to get an image, it usually takes no more than 2-3 seconds. Maybe the adapter is defective?
Here's a demo showing slimport on a nexus 5:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnR3KofhVMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I always have an issue when connecting my gf's S4 to her TV via an MHL adapter. I have to make sure the connections are tight and eliminate alot of movement, PITA!
But I guess just give everything a good push, make sure connections are really good and lay it on a flat surface to see if movement is affecting the connection. The adapter your using might be flimsy too
I just got my watch today, but it is not able to connect to my Tab S 8.4 LTE... The Gear manager in my tablet cannot find the watch even though it is right next to it. I tried to reboot both devices and turn the Bluetooth off and on, and nothing works. Really Samsung, not even compatible with your own galaxy devices?
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I just got my watch today, but it is not able to connect to my Tab S 8.4 LTE... The Gear manager in my tablet cannot find the watch even though it is right next to it. I tried to reboot both devices and turn the Bluetooth off and on, and nothing works. Really Samsung, not even compatible with your own galaxy devices?
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No smartwatch from samsung was compatible with tablets, regardless phone capabilities of tablets. So...short answer...NO
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calinormy said:
No smartwatch from samsung was compatible with tablets, regardless phone capabilities of tablets. So...short answer...NO
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This really sucks... My note 4 broke and I didn't want to buy a phone because I have a tablet that can take calls and want to wait for the S8 and the Note 8 next year...
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This really sucks... My note 4 broke and I didn't want to buy a phone because I have a tablet that can take calls and want to wait for the S8 and the Note 8 next year...
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The watch will work with every phone with 1.5 gb of ram and android 4.4 and up. I'm sure you will find a second hand S5 for 100 $ to use it for 3 or 4 months. Then resell it.
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calinormy said:
The watch will work with every phone with 1.5 gb of ram and android 4.4 and up. I'm sure you will find a second hand S5 for 100 $ to use it for 3 or 4 months. Then resell it.
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Yea, that is probably what I should do now. Good advice, thanks.
I'm in the same boat as you. My primary phone is (and will continue to be) a Tab A with telephony. It won't work with the S3, so I picked up a cheap Android that lives in my desk drawer and is only used on occasions when the watch needs to be paired with a phone.
I run a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and i had to buy a used Samsung Galaxy S4 mini to pair and configure my Gear S3. What a pity !
Hi!
Any updates on this?
I spent last couple of days trying to pair Gear S3 with Tab 8.4 Pro (SM-T325) running stock kitkat 4.4 - no luck (((
It's such a shame that Samsung doesn't even make an attemp to make their own devices compatible with each other. Was a big surprise for me.
So, did anybody manage to couple Gear S3 with any tablet? If yes, how did you do it?