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How Do YOU Like This Device?? [I am looking to purchase]

Hello guys,
I am just wondering, how do you guys like this device. I am interested in buying the device (at full price as my T-Mobile contract is not ready for renewal) and was wondering if there are any common complaints / issues to look out for. Thanks so much for helping.
PS: If you have time:
1) How is battery life? (IE, can it last one day heavy usage)?
2) Will this work with full HSDPA on T-Mo USA?
3) Is there a way to toggle the torch to use as a flashlight?
4) Where exaclty would be the best place to buy this phone without contract in USA? OR Will this work with a standard T-Mo SIM card?
5) Would anyone recommend me wait for any other device that is soon to come out or is already out instead of this device?
If anyone could answer just one of the above, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

Closed Source Project said:
Hello guys,
I am just wondering, how do you guys like this device. I am interested in buying the device (at full price as my T-Mobile contract is not ready for renewal) and was wondering if there are any common complaints / issues to look out for. Thanks so much for helping.
PS: If you have time:
1) How is battery life? (IE, can it last one day heavy usage)?
2) Will this work with full HSDPA on T-Mo USA?
3) Is there a way to toggle the torch to use as a flashlight?
4) Where exaclty would be the best place to buy this phone without contract in USA? OR Will this work with a standard T-Mo SIM card?
5) Would anyone recommend me wait for any other device that is soon to come out or is already out instead of this device?
If anyone could answer just one of the above, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
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1. No. Most I get out of heavy use is about 6 or 7 hours.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. I would look on craigslist or Amazon.
5. I would HIGHLY recommend this device. Unless you're ok with waiting for the SGiii, this is the best you can get for T-Mobile right now.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA

I use this phone all day streaming, email, xda, general surfing, games and still end up with around 30% battery, pretty good in my book. Physical design, sense and the overall experience is excellent. There are some lemons out there but overall quality is high.
The SGiii offers a few more features in the department of removable storage but overall for the US release these phones are almost on par. (Same dual core CPU)
The most impressive feature is the One S camera. There isn't a phone out there in the world that can touch it, say the One X. I travel so a nice camera is a must.
I would have paid full for price for this phone but I had a ToS change to my contract that helped me convince T-Mobile that they owed me, on top of the issues I had with my G2x.
My wife jumped the apple bandwagon to get one of these phones and she loves it.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA

Thanks so much, guys. The only issue I heard a reviewer say was that the screen can, at times, almost look pixelated or distorted. Anyone even notice this or is this issue just an extreme nit-pick? Also, is there any noticeable lines that run across the screen in low lighting setting like the GSii?
EDIT:
One small thing, if anyone bought their phone from website and would like to share the site, please post a link below or PM me. I want to make sure I get the real model and not a banned or stolen model number. Thanks!
AND:
How does this device work without an SD-Card? Do games that require downloading separate files to run (IE The Sims && Xplane) still work?

i just bought the phone from tmobile customer service and i should get it tomorrow. cant wait to play with it. ive pretty much owned every higher end android phone for tmobile and i just sold my sensation 4g for this phone. i really want to play with the s4 lol.

Just thought I would say, I just got mine and it won't charge passed 99%. Just saying.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA

Ditto, but I think this is fixed in the 1.7 update

Closed Source Project said:
Thanks so much, guys. The only issue I heard a reviewer say was that the screen can, at times, almost look pixelated or distorted. Anyone even notice this or is this issue just an extreme nit-pick? Also, is there any noticeable lines that run across the screen in low lighting setting like the GSii?
EDIT:
One small thing, if anyone bought their phone from website and would like to share the site, please post a link below or PM me. I want to make sure I get the real model and not a banned or stolen model number. Thanks!
AND:
How does this device work without an SD-Card? Do games that require downloading separate files to run (IE The Sims && Xplane) still work?
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Pros:
Camera
Excellent battery life
Speed
Design
About negative sides some people mention:
Screen issues - nit-pick
SDCARD - no problems, phone DOES have a card but it is not removable. Admittably, would have been better to have 32gig version, but this one is enough for almost everything except maybe your video collection.
All in all never regretted it, best phone atm.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

my screen has never looked distorted--gorgeous-
go to a store and play with it several times--i got mine at a tmo store
it takes a micro sim, regular ones won't work w/o cutting--not up on that. but you are going to get one anyway

My screen is amazing too, i had a gripe with amoled screens, like on my dads galaxy s, that it just looks weird compared to led screens, but the One S screen looks almost undistinguishable to leds, and luckily im not a pentile hater, so I cant really see the pentile pixelation

remember
HTC ONE S:
Very aggressive CPU here- Krait "Cortex A15" (220 linpack) but so ****ed GPU (Adreno 225)
(why ?
Go to youtube desktop and play 1080P HD video.....oh sorry you CAN'T play)
Galaxy Nexus
I don't feel any power., I feel optimization.
(Omap is sucks, GPU is PowerVR SGX540- this is too old crap, even if overclocked.
youtube test with 1080p HD video is FAILED also)
so only one phone is rocking, or Im sorry only one chipset is good-
it is "EXYNOS"
Regards.

I have gotten 12Hr and 30 Mins of usage (Heavy listening to music updating facebook ect. Pics, vids,) With 40% remaining. And yes to everything else you asked.

rugmankc said:
my screen has never looked distorted--gorgeous-
go to a store and play with it several times--i got mine at a tmo store
it takes a micro sim, regular ones won't work w/o cutting--not up on that. but you are going to get one anyway
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Hey thanks man! I remember you from the N1 forums! You like this much better than our Nexus One? Glad to hear from you again haha.
Thanks everyone for the help, I am most definitely set on buying this phone within the next weeks.

micxploed said:
Just thought I would say, I just got mine and it won't charge passed 99%. Just saying.
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That happened to me. fixed it by wiping stats and charging off
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One s is the way to go on T-Mobile bro. unless you wanna wait for the galaxy s 3.
For me, I will never get a T-Mobile branded galaxy device because it will not be identical to all other galaxy s3.
So what does that mean? it means the T-Mobile s3 development will not be as good. On the other hand, every one s is the same and development will flourish like the sensation.
And to me Samsung is really getting wack, the s3 whole nature idea and Svoice, s this and s that. sound similar to ithis and ithat
And finnaly. you can't compare sense ui to touch wiz. sense is King of android ui overlays.

Closed Source Project said:
Hey thanks man! I remember you from the N1 forums! You like this much better than our Nexus One? Glad to hear from you again haha.
Thanks everyone for the help, I am most definitely set on buying this phone within the next weeks.
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Remembered you too--
Yes, it is much better and development is growing now with LeeDroid on board. I thought I wanted a larger screen. But, now I know that would have been a mistake for me anyways. The 10gb free memory after OS and apps may be an issue for some. Not me. Otherwise, excellent phone. NO touchscreen issues, and you will know what I mean--
Ken

So there is ONLY 10 GB free (for **** like music/vids/pics) after the OS and cache partitions?!? That is REALLY cutting it for me, I thought there would be 16GB free. Uhh ohh...

And one more thing, my bad:
Will there be a difference of the global version of this device or the T-Mo specific version and what is that difference? Thanks!

Yea, the memory is only negative, but works for most people. I have a 1.3gb video, pics and a nandroid etc with 4gb left
don't know about any global version atm

Never mind, I was just getting confused between T-Mobile branded version and the stock version. They seem to be exactly the same.

This thing flies and I mean FLIES on cm9 alpha 6. Whoooo mate
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[Q] android beam and nfc? and a sidenote question

im new to the photon q and im trying to figure out the beam feature. Ive been googling to try and find it out but I cant get any info on the photon specifically. i tried to beam a picture to my sisters s3 and it opened up the the play store and said search not found or something similar. when she sent one to me it would send me to the same place or it would say that my device cant receive large format files or something like that.
it sent webpages just fine but wouldnt do pics. is this because they are on a newer version of android?
as a side note question is this phone a legit contender in the smart phone world? I bought it from best buy to give it a try because they let you try it for 30 days and if you dont you can exchange it for somethign else. Is it in league with the s3? is it crap? I like the keyboard a lot and hate to not have one but I need to upgrade because my beloved epic is dying. what are your opinions on the phone? versus the s3? some other valid contender?
thanks all

I like it, but I'm a whore for a keyboard.
AFAIK the NFC chip in this thing is completely useless. Doesn't work with Google Wallet, and I seriously doubt if it'll work with the S3. I'm betting Sammy's NFC sharing only works with other Sammy devices....

that kinda sucks. its far from a necessity to have it but it would have been cool. is it a hardware thing or software do u know?

I talked to someone at sprint about the NFC once b/c I was tryna do the same with a s3. They basically told me that its not compatible b/t ics and jb b/c of the way the data is compiled, sent and received or something like that. It's been so long since I was told about it. Ics to ics yes that is supposed to work but not ics to jb.
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dwaynet89 said:
I talked to someone at sprint about the NFC once b/c I was tryna do the same with a s3. They basically told me that its not compatible b/t ics and jb b/c of the way the data is compiled, sent and received or something like that. It's been so long since I was told about it. Ics to ics yes that is supposed to work but not ics to jb.
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Uhm... That's not true at all. When the S3 was on ICS, it didn't work. Whenever we get JB, it still won't work with the S3. Again, AFAIK the Samsung beam is proprietary to Samsung.
At any rate, I am hoping it's just a software issue. We have the NFC chip, and I don't believe the chip itself is crippled... but I am just speculating at this point. I do not know for a fact, just wishful thinking! :good:

arrrghhh said:
Uhm... That's not true at all. When the S3 was on ICS, it didn't work. Whenever we get JB, it still won't work with the S3. Again, AFAIK the Samsung beam is proprietary to Samsung.
At any rate, I am hoping it's just a software issue. We have the NFC chip, and I don't believe the chip itself is crippled... but I am just speculating at this point. I do not know for a fact, just wishful thinking! :good:
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It must be a Samsung thing because I had the same problem with my friends S3 to my photon but my nexus 7's NFC works fine with the photon q
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/ofAllEvil said:
It must be a Samsung thing because I had the same problem with my friends S3 to my photon but my nexus 7's NFC works fine with the photon q
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Even to send pictures?

/ofAllEvil said:
It must be a Samsung thing because I had the same problem with my friends S3 to my photon but my nexus 7's NFC works fine with the photon q
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Hey, the N7's NFC worked with the Photon Q...? That's impressive! So it seems we have a regular NFC chip, perhaps it's just Google Wallet that doesn't work... Wonder why?

Google wallet is typically blocked as per the carrier because they have or are about to have their own NFC payment method (like Verizon and Isis).
Also, the GS3 uses its own funky thing for NFC. The Q's NFC works the same as any other device, so things like Android Beam work. GS3 uses S Beam or whatever they call it, which only works between GS3 devices.
To answer OP's additional question, yes, this phone is up there on the top of the "powerful smartphones" list. The screen has a lower dpi than most, but it makes up for it with the processor. The only faster chips on the market are the S4 Pro (in the DNA and Nexus 4) Exynos 5 (Nexus 10).
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dwaynet89 said:
I talked to someone at sprint about the NFC once b/c I was tryna do the same with a s3. They basically told me that its not compatible b/t ics and jb b/c of the way the data is compiled, sent and received or something like that. It's been so long since I was told about it. Ics to ics yes that is supposed to work but not ics to jb.
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That sounds kinda sorta along the right idea. From what I've read jelly bean enhances NFC for larger file transfers by automagically initiating a Bluetooth connection between the devices to send data like pictures.
Here's the fist link I found that briefly mentions it too.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-details-jelly-bean-nfc-features-android-beam-upgrade-ta/
So yes, in essence NFC is useless for us with ICS, you could send contact info (like palm pilots used to do with IR), web links, and other very basic textual information and that's it for now, the larger things should be doable once we get jelly bean hopefully at some point in the first half of this year.

Samsung's S Beam uses wifi direct to make a connection as opposed to the bluetooth connection made with Android Beam.
Wifi Direct can send a hell of a lot more data at a faster rate than bluetooth. U can download the app "wifi direct" from the app store and send photos, movies, etc.

i sent a website to my friends tmobile galaxy s3 with NFC enabled on both devices just by touching the backs. it DOES work on this phone

Disappointed.. :(

Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks

albert_htc said:
Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks
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Its a nexus device, did you realize that nexus devices do not have hardware buttons before you bought it?

Not much you can do without root.
But if you do decide to root (use the guide in my signature) you can use pie controls or install a custom ROM/xposed module which will allow you to change the size of the navbar.
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I realised that it had no buttons just thought it would have visible screen..
How does the nexus 5 compare to the S4, LG G2 and HTC One for useable screen space. ?
Sent from my Nexus 7

albert_htc said:
Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks
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I was unhappy about the sound aswell, I rooted purely to install a sound mod that increases the volume greatly, and it doesn't have any distortion problems at all, see here.
Speaker Volume Boost for Nexus 5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788

albert_htc said:
Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks
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PROS:
It's a decent price
It gets updates quick
It's fast
Camera takes decent pics in as long as nothing is moving
Design is good
CONS:
The cameras slow focus makes it next to impossible to take pictures of my new puppy.
The sound seems fine to me for speaker calling, for music not so much but who listens to music like that. I picked up a bluetooth speaker and use that anytime I want to listen to music sounds 10 times better than the speakers on any phone.
The screen size is good, the Galaxys are too big IMO feels like I'm using a mini tablet. I have the white version I don't care for the shiny edges but when my Nexus case comes I won't see them anyways.
My only other gripe other than the camera is I can't get an otterbox for it that's not the phones fault though.
Overall I'm happy with it for the price.

Another one of these threads huh?

mistahseller said:
Another one of these threads huh?
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I don't know about it being another one.. But its the one I started.
I think I was expecting more screen real estate..
Google now uses the full screen any way to get other apps to do that ?

I upgraded from the S4 and love my Nexus 5.

Yup you should stick to Samsung, nexus won't ever make you happy. It just isn't for some people. Lol
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duckied said:
Yup you should stick to Samsung, nexus won't ever make you happy. It just isn't for some people. Lol
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My son has the Nexus4 which sounds louder, I have the Nexus 7 2013 tab which is great.
I like the phone, but it would be nice if the screen could be fully used..

hotweiss said:
I upgraded from the S4 and love my Nexus 5.
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funny, I rather go back to my S4

albert_htc said:
I think I was expecting more screen real estate..
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Why? Did you not do any homework at all prior to purchasing this phone? Are you not familiar with Nexus devices at all?
I'm so tired of these people who drop a few hundred bucks and don't even know what they're buying. It's not like the navbar is some kind of huge secret that people are discovering for the first time. It's a fundamental part of the Nexus experience, and there are plenty of other phones you could have purchased that don't have it. Complaining about the navbar on a Nexus phone is like jumping into a pool and then complaining that it made you wet.

^^^this. OP, please send me your nexus, I'll pm you my address.
sent from my hammerhead

albert_htc said:
I like the phone, but it would be nice if the screen could be fully used..
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And back to my point nexus isn't for everyone. I agree with the comments above, you should of done research before putting down a few hundred dollars on a device. The navigation bar should not been a surprise to you.
But you have a choice to return it also.
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albert_htc said:
I don't know about it being another one.. But its the one I started.
I think I was expecting more screen real estate..
Google now uses the full screen any way to get other apps to do that ?
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Well, there's no need to flame hard, but with all the people complaining about the N5's drawbacks...seriously? On-screen buttons? Remember what forum this is; literally all the ROMs have features to use full Immersive Mode, enable PIE, or decrease button size. Go and have a flashing day.
It's no big deal if you can use PIE or hide it or make it smaller; it's definitely something I can live with. I can't live with the ****ty perf of the S4 or the big big big bezels on the HTC One though. Worth it if you ask me...

@albert_htc these problems can be resolved by flashing custom ROMs and kernels, as well as Mods only if you're familiar with rooting and unlocking your bootloader
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These devices should be released with the problem already solved without the need to use third party roms
Sent from my Nexus 5

dicecuber said:
These devices should be released with the problem already solved without the need to use third party roms
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The navbar is not a "problem." It's an intentional feature of the device. There are mods you can flash to remove it, but they're not "solving" a problem - they're modifying or removing a feature that was intentionally included in the stock phone.
Once again, this is a standard Nexus feature that has been included in every Nexus phone and tablet that has been released since the Galaxy Nexus. This is not new, and it's not a "problem." The only problem is that there are apparently a bunch of people out there who refuse to educate themselves before plunking down hundreds of dollars on a gadget that is clearly not for them.

dicecuber said:
These devices should be released with the problem already solved without the need to use third party roms
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Sad but true. We spend $350+ on these phones we expect them to be flawless but sadly that's not the case. But what can we do we might as well unlock it's true potential and tweak them the way we want that's the reason why we chose android over iphone or for me that is
I have a custom ROM and kernel flashed and im very happy with this phone. Battery is stellar phone is snappy and I'm happy lol?
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[Q] AT&T Visual Voicemail for Nexus 5 apk

Hi,
I recently just switched over from the iPhone 5! Finally! Lol. I have just about everything else google except for the phones. I am dearly missing the native visual voicemail on the iPhone. I found out AT&T has an app for it on the android market but I cannot for the love of me download it since it's not supported for my device ID. I used apk downloader and it's a no go. Has anyone been able to do this yet? I know the G2 is supported but not the Nexus 5 yet.
Best,
John

Try Google Voice
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Johndong888 said:
Hi,
I recently just switched over from the iPhone 5! Finally! Lol. I have just about everything else google except for the phones. I am dearly missing the native visual voicemail on the iPhone. I found out AT&T has an app for it on the android market but I cannot for the love of me download it since it's not supported for my device ID. I used apk downloader and it's a no go. Has anyone been able to do this yet? I know the G2 is supported but not the Nexus 5 yet.
Best,
John
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There is a visual voice-mail thread here somewhere for AT&T. I bumped into it a few days ago. I'm sure searching general forum and the apps forum for it would help you find it quickly.
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[Q] Nexus 5 vs LG G2 vs Galaxy S4?

Hello
What i care about most is music (earphones) quality, ability to theme, good camera and beautiful screen. I am not a gamer. Willing to use custom roms.
So, if you were me, whitch phone you'd choose?

gintariukeas said:
Hello
What i care about most is music (earphones) quality, ability to theme, good camera and beautiful screen. I am not a gamer. Willing to use custom roms.
So, if you were me, whitch phone you'd choose?
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Galaxy has the best DAC for audio but the slowest phone to use. I wouldn't get any of them now as they're all old.

rootSU said:
Galaxy has the best DAC for audio but the slowest phone to use. I wouldn't get any of them now as they're all old.
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Not all people are able to purchase the newest devices

gintariukeas said:
Not all people are able to purchase the newest devices
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Well you just asked if "you were me" and that's what i'd do. If there are limitations, you will need to set them out in your first post

I'm not sure asking a group of people who had that very choice and came away with a Nexus 5 will get a very rounded response
Most places I would say the Nexus 5 is still the cheapest and certainly faster than the S4. The reason I'm not that keen on the G2 is the LG software...

rootSU said:
Galaxy has the best DAC for audio but the slowest phone to use. I wouldn't get any of them now as they're all old.
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none of these phones are "old" by any means. They're all quad core and 2GB RAM.
Which means they're going to last for another 3 years.
The S5 has a larger bezel and same size screen as the LG G2. So it's pointless.
The LG G3 is the only "non old" phone available in that it's the only one that upgraded hardware.
OP, I would get the Nexus 5 or the LG G2 (use root and xposed to change the skins...or aftermarket rom, problem is there aren't many options). That would be one reason to go for the S4-- plenty of ROM support to get rid of the bloat.
The LG G2 I want for the dt2w aka knockon/off without 2% battery drain/hour, and the larger screen, and the larger battery. Using Immersive mode with pie controls though is good enough on my Nexus 5 for the screen, but the 5.2" on the LG G2 in the same package as the Nexus5 is really nice.
The larger battery I really really want, About 4.5hr screen on time is all I get and I'm tired of disabling 2 cores and underclocking to 1.7ghz to get 5.5-6.5hr screen on time
Hardware wise they're all practically identical.
The DAC may be better but nobody can notice 5% THD in bass response. I can't believe people even bring it up these days. Education, I guess.

rancur3p1c said:
none of these phones are "old" by any means. They're all quad core and 2GB RAM.
Which means they're going to last for another 3 years.
The S5 has a larger bezel and same size screen as the LG G2. So it's pointless.
The LG G3 is the only "non old" phone available in that it's the only one that upgraded hardware.
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They're old to me. I wouldn't get any because I class them as old. I never get a phone thats 6 months old. 3 is probably my Max
G3 wasn't an option
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gintariukeas said:
What i care about most is music (earphones) quality
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Cowon.
ability to theme, good camera and beautiful screen. I am not a gamer.
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Fujifilm makes fine still cameras, I think x10 or alike.
You might team it with n5.
Best regards.

rootSU said:
They're old to me. I wouldn't get any because I class them as old. I never get a phone thats 6 months old. 3 is probably my Max
G3 wasn't an option
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that's stupid. They're better phones than what's "new". Modify your criteria.

rancur3p1c said:
that's stupid. They're better phones than what's "new". Modify your criteria.
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Don't be an ass. I set my criteria to whatever the F*** I want to set it as!
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If you get one that can have recovery otherwise its a stock based ROM with safestrap get one that has twrp and is rooted
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Other wise I would stay away from the s4
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Phone snobs lol. Craziness here.
I would pick the g2 but I'm happy with the n5.
The phones may have been released somewhere 6 months ago but here in Canada the s5 is maybe a month or 2 ago the others a few months. Not old at all.
People here get really crazy about what they consider old. I remember you from the HTC desire days Suroot. I still have that phone too.
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Just realized he said s4 not s5. Lg g2 is closer to s5 in terms of age.
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This thread will probably get closed...as they usually do....Lol....but...
G2 if you aren't a flashaholic.
N5 if you are.
S4...any Samsung....never again. Terrible. ?

350Rocket said:
I remember you from the HTC desire days Suroot. I still have that phone too.
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So do I
I wouldn't say it's crazy. In the UK on contract we're expected to keep a flagshship phone for 24 months. Thats a long time in the Android world and most. OEMs don't give official after 18-24 months and development really slows down and suffers after that point.. That's why I always try to get the absolute newest phone possible that meets my criteria.. If I get a phone thats 6 months old, I may only have a year of updates which makes year 2 an unpleasant experience.

It was 36 months here in Canada until this year they changed the law. My friend kept his desire for 40 months and he bought it when it was 6 months old.
It still ran fine but never got any updates and he just didn't know what he was missing. Never had a smartphone before so he was happy no matter what.
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350Rocket said:
It was 36 months here in Canada until this year they changed the law. My friend kept his desire for 40 months and he bought it when it was 6 months old.
It still ran fine but never got any updates and he just didn't know what he was missing. Never had a smartphone before so he was happy no matter what.
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Yeah I remember hearing about the 36 month thing. I'm actually moving away from subsidised handsets.
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rootSU said:
Yeah I remember hearing about the 36 month thing. I'm actually moving away from subsidised handsets.
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Rogers in Canada ticked me off bad enough....I paid 800 to leave them. (Took my sweet time paying them) and paid cash for a moto x. Then passed that awesome, but boring phone, to my wife and paid cash for an N5. Never again will I do a contract.
Of course I won't be buying brand new flagships either....maybe used once they're out awhile.
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350 of that was for an 18 month old S2....that was worth a hundred bucks at best at that point. Nope....cash only from now on. Lol

KJ said:
This thread will probably get closed...as they usually do....Lol....but...
G2 if you aren't a flashaholic.
N5 if you are.
S4...any Samsung....never again. Terrible. ?
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Why samsung s4 terrible?

gintariukeas said:
Why samsung s4 terrible?
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Touchwiz and all the Samsung bloat are a horrible mess. Lag. I have had an s2 since it came out, and my daughter has a gtab3. . I'll never buy a phone again that I HAVE to root, debloat and possibly flash a ROM JUST to make it smooth. The Gtab3 came out if the box a laggy nightmare. After rooting, deviating severely, its not too bad. Tho my N7 2012 dances circles around it.
Just my experience and opinion tho. To each their own.

The price of the Nexus 5 makes it my choice. We are currently in a bit of a technology slump. By purchasing a cheaper phone like the Nexus 5, you have a cheaper/sooner option to upgrade when the next benchmark comes out (which I personally dont think will be for a year or so).