Nexus 5 vs Galaxy S4 - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright. I currently have a 16Gb Galaxy S4 I337 running Crapwiz 4.2.2. (It's TouchWiz, I just hate it).
I'm thinking about trading for a 16Gb Nexus 5. Now here are my concerns, and where I'd like opinions.
I like my S4 because of the Expandable storage. I enjoy spotify, downlaoding my music, having a couple videos, etc. so the expandable storage is a real problem. And I can't find anyone in my area on craigslist that even has a 32Gb for trade.
However. TouchWiz freaking sucks. And due to me getting my S4 AFTER the MF3 update, I can't do anything about it. That's my big desire in getting a Nexus 5. customization. Playing with ROMs. Etc. I love that kind of thing, and not having it is really making me hate AT&T's version of the S4.
Here are my main concerns. Any comments are appreciated, so long as they're relevant
Speakers (I normally use headphones, but like to watch videos in bed, and can't wear headphones and sleep. Must be able to overpower a small box fan, as well as being able to hear my phone ring)
Customization (I realize this is Nexus vs Galaxy, but still)
Ease of Access. As a tech guy, this isn't a HUGE deal, but still want opinions
Variety of actualyl decent cases.
Durability of the phone itself
That's all I can think of right now. Honestly, any opinions in any way are appreciated.

Speakers aren't better then the GS4. Customization is going to be a lot better then the GS4. The phone is a lot more durable than the GS4. What do you mean by ease of access exactly?
I had the GS4. I love the Nexus 5 a lot more than I did the GS4. The Nexus 5 is probably the smoothest Android phone I've ever owned, in terms of how the OS operates.

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bigant262 said:
Speakers aren't better then the GS4. Customization is going to be a lot better then the GS4. The phone is a lot more durable than the GS4. What do you mean by ease of access exactly?
I had the GS4. I love the Nexus 5 a lot more than I did the GS4. The Nexus 5 is probably the smoothest Android phone I've ever owned, in terms of how the OS operates.
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Ease of Access. I guess I mean just how easy you can run the OS, how easy is it to customize, how easy is it to adjust to Nexus 5's basically vanilla android as opposed to TouchQiz. I expect all the bloatware and crap to be gone, obviously but other than that. Customizing, tweaking phone settings, tuning down the CPU to save battery, etc.

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Internet at work blocks youtube. Stupid firewall software. I'm the IT guy, work on all the computers, have access to every system file, and they can't trust me on YouTube. Lol.

Pretty much everything you listed goes to the N5 except the speakers. Which are better than the S3 I had by a long shot, but not as good as S4.

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Internet at work blocks youtube. Stupid firewall software. I'm the IT guy, work on all the computers, have access to every system file, and they can't trust me on YouTube. Lol.
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lol....I haven't read through that thread but a lot of your questions might already be answered within there or even things you didn't think about.

ryno9100 said:
Internet at work blocks youtube. Stupid firewall software. I'm the IT guy, work on all the computers, have access to every system file, and they can't trust me on YouTube. Lol.
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Oh yes. One more huge question for me. Wouldthe Galaxy S4 be compatbile on Straight Talk's network, using an AT&T Sim Card. I know the GSM basebands are the same, but does 3g and 4g work on those basebands or different ones? I'm not 100% sure how the whole baseband system works,other than matching some numbers.

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Samsung Galaxy S3 or LG Nexus 4 - Need some advice

Hello XDA,
My name is Robert Oortwijn and I currently have a Samsung Star. So I want to get a new phone and am deciding between the S3 or Nexus 4, nothing else. I have enough money to buy one of the two
So for the last month I have been looking, searching, watching stuff regarding the S3 and Nexus 4. From comparisons to single reviews.
What I want really is to have a good phone. It will be my first Android phone and smartphone.
My closest friend got the Galaxy S3 Pebble Blue and I really like the big screen and color. What I also like is the ability to have the battery removed and extend storage. Then again I also really like the Nexus 4 for getting the latest updates and being stock Android.
Sadly my concern is this. The glass back which from my impressions breaks really fast. A 1m drop or just ticking your phone against a table will crack it. Secondly is the bit smaller size of the screen. The Nexus 4 has a 4,7 inch compared to the S3 4,8 inch. It becomes even less because of the on-screen based buttons. This trough isn't a issue. I like on-screen and S3 style buttons.
What I just can't is making a decisions. Both are amazing phones where the one has something I like and the other doesn't and vice versa.
I would like to ask XDA to give some opinions and reasons why I should pick one of these two phones.
While 16GB is in my opinion enough for apps, maybe 3 games and music? I have like 4GB of music on my PC, I do like the extra storage but then again the N4 offers stock android and such.
I hope XDA will be the one able to help me. I tried many forums but only got one responds and those weren't really helpful.
Greetings :laugh:,
Robert Oortwijn
Nexus 4
Sounds like you've already given a lot of thought about which phone you want to choose or select and you've already researched the options that each phone has. But it comes down to what's important to you. If expandable storage and removable battery is important to you or if you think you can live without it. I personally don't own either device but I know you'll get die hard fans on both sides saying that their phone is the best and why. But in the end it's really your opinion that matters because you'll be the one who has to live with the phone. I am trying to make the decision myself as to which one I would choose and I go back and forth.
Personally if you're thinking of the S4, I would opt for the NOTE II instead. I haven't heard any legitimate complaints about it. And even some people who own the N4 or S3 are trying to sell their phone and get one. Plus it has a 5.5" display!
But it really does come down to what you think is important. I too have music that I think is so important to transfer onto my storage on my phone but Google music player can sync your music on your PC to your phone. And I use spotify more than than the copied music on my phone. With spotify, @ $10 a month, you have unlimited access to virtually any artist or album out there. Albums are available on spotify the same day the CDs are released. Plus you can download playlists to your phone over wifi that you can listen to without using data.
Hope this helps.
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Nexus 4
Personally I would go for the Nexus 4. Stock Android is important for someone like me who makes little apps.
I love samaung for all dives and i using s5302
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
How the phone looks and your preference of buttons, screen size etc. is up to you i guess.
For the GS3 the international model is hampered by Samsungs own Exynos processor and that being much harder to develop for than the Qualcomm in the US version. For instance Cyanogenmod 10.1 on the i9300 has no stable builds because of development problems.
In fact the current i9300 developers have said they will not be supporting the international GS4 as it will be such a pain.
If you are in the US then you are fine for Cyanogenmod at least, and probably most other custom ROMs.
nexus 4 is better in us.
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
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What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
Slevin73 said:
What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
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I live in the Netherlands. We don't have LTE (yet) but I do know that HSPA+ is fast enough for me so LTE isn't a big problem compared to US citizens.
I'm going to get the device with a contract. 100 calls or sms with 500 mb for 20 euros for the coming 24 months.
Regarding Stock Android or ROMS I don't know. Seeing it has Stock Android I might just stick with that.
I'm not a developer either. Just a teen who want to get his first Android/Smart-phone hehe

[Q] Note 3 or G2 ? (Multiple Questions)

I got the Galaxy Note 3 about 5 days ago, and I love it, its a powerhouse, doesn't slow down no matter what i throw at it. The S-pen is pretty fun too. The Air commands are relevant in some cases, but most of the time its just used as a sort of party trick, there are only a couple that I actually use everyday. But the downfall so far, which is a big one for me, is the fact that I can't do any ROMs or other types of Customization (kernels, Overclocking, etc etc) Which is my favorite part about having an android phone. I specifically taught myself some coding just so I could make my own roms. And before this I had the S3 and S4, and with the excellent ROM community the S3 and to some extent the S4 had, I assumed the GN 3 would too.
So with that being said, I've been thinking of selling it on Swappa and getting the LG G2 with the unused upgrade I have on my account.
So Basically what I wanna hear from you guys is your opinions about this. I am worried that I am gonna sell the GN3 for the G2, and then have buyers/sellers remorse, and it will be too late.
And How do you guys think the two devices stack up against each other and also what is the Dev support for the G2 like so far ? From what I've seen just browsing through the G2 forum on here, it looks like they already have some good ROM's available.
and the last thing I was curious about, is how many of you that own the GN 3, will use custom ROM's on your device if/when the Dev's figure out how to unlock the bootloader or some type of work around. I've read some stuff saying that using ROM's on the GN3 might not be such a great idea, since ROM's like CM and such, couldn't include support for the S-Pen and some of the other stuff that makes the GN3 what it is. Which I don't see why they couldn't include the use of the S-Pen and Multiwindow in the ROMs.
Sorry for asking so many questiosn in one post, but I have been bouncing this around in my head for 2 days now and can't make a decision. My back up plan is just to sell the GN3, re-activate my GS3 and wait for the Nexus 5. But I am enjoying having a Phablet, so wanted to stay with something bigger then 5"
BackSeatSuicide said:
I got the Galaxy Note 3 about 5 days ago, and I love it, its a powerhouse, doesn't slow down no matter what i throw at it. The S-pen is pretty fun too. The Air commands are relevant in some cases, but most of the time its just used as a sort of party trick, there are only a couple that I actually use everyday. But the downfall so far, which is a big one for me, is the fact that I can't do any ROMs or other types of Customization (kernels, Overclocking, etc etc) Which is my favorite part about having an android phone. I specifically taught myself some coding just so I could make my own roms. And before this I had the S3 and S4, and with the excellent ROM community the S3 and to some extent the S4 had, I assumed the GN 3 would too.
So with that being said, I've been thinking of selling it on Swappa and getting the LG G2 with the unused upgrade I have on my account.
So Basically what I wanna hear from you guys is your opinions about this. I am worried that I am gonna sell the GN3 for the G2, and then have buyers/sellers remorse, and it will be too late.
And How do you guys think the two devices stack up against each other and also what is the Dev support for the G2 like so far ? From what I've seen just browsing through the G2 forum on here, it looks like they already have some good ROM's available.
and the last thing I was curious about, is how many of you that own the GN 3, will use custom ROM's on your device if/when the Dev's figure out how to unlock the bootloader or some type of work around. I've read some stuff saying that using ROM's on the GN3 might not be such a great idea, since ROM's like CM and such, couldn't include support for the S-Pen and some of the other stuff that makes the GN3 what it is. Which I don't see why they couldn't include the use of the S-Pen and Multiwindow in the ROMs.
Sorry for asking so many questiosn in one post, but I have been bouncing this around in my head for 2 days now and can't make a decision. My back up plan is just to sell the GN3, re-activate my GS3 and wait for the Nexus 5. But I am enjoying having a Phablet, so wanted to stay with something bigger then 5"
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Note 3, just go for it man !
I have the G2 with Cyanogen Mod installed. The phone is a nice size and this ROM is better than stock in my opinion. I didn't get the note 3 because of price and it was too big anyway. You can actually get the G two on Amazon for Verizon for one cent. Maybe for other carriers too I'm not sure.
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xxkellerman said:
Note 3, just go for it man !
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Well like I said, I already have the Note 3, got it about 5 days ago now, maybe 4, been a long week lol I love it, and it kicks every other phone's ass in sheer power. But as I also said, Being able to mod my phone is a huge huge part of the reason I buy one. Guess I shoulda done a lil more research about it first instead of just assuming.
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I have the G2 with Cyanogen Mod installed. The phone is a nice size and this ROM is better than stock in my opinion. I didn't get the note 3 because of price and it was too big anyway. You can actually get the G two on Amazon for Verizon for one cent. Maybe for other carriers too I'm not sure.
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Yea I saw that 1 cent thing. I could just open a new line on my account instead of using the upgrade and just switch everything over to the new line. The upgrade price is still 99$ which isn't bad, but 1 cent is better. And
CM is awesome, I've used it on several of my devices the only two that I've had that wouldn't work with it were my POS LG Revo and now my Bad-ass but Uber-Locked Note 3. And there are so many other ROM's, including writing my own, that I want to use. I love this note 3 a lot, but wtf, why can't they just let us mod our damn phones. We paid for em, its not gonna hurt them. The Knox Security should only be on government used devices as it was originally intended since the DoD/CIA/FBI etc etc has approved the use of Smartphones by their employees as official work devices. So of course they need there's to be secure, but I don't, I need it to be mine. The reason i dont like iPhone is cause it doesn't feel like its mine phone, I can't really do what "I" want with it, but android, i could always do whatever i wanted to it, make it look, feel, run, how I liked it. And they wanna take away one of the biggest and best reasons that put Android devices above the rest. Bull**** !
I think we should stage Coup of VZW and Samsung, and make some of the Dev's from here the CEO's of each of them. The world would be a better place. Maybe even stop world hunger lol
Another Question -
Do you think there is a noticeable difference in the 2GB of RAM in the G2 vs the 3GB of RAM in my Note 3 ?
oh and anyone know when the HTC One Max is supposed to come out, cause I am thinking about that as well. I looked it up earlier, but forgot what it said for release date, and wasn't sure if it was a legit one or just rumored
There are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!

Nexus 5 or LG G2 ?

What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
I was in the same dilemma.
I decided to go for the Nexus 5 because its a Nexus.
The main difference in hardware between the two for me is the screen size. I wanted the bigger screen on the G2.
But I decided I want to pay less and get a device with better software
LouieeeV said:
What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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The nexus is pure stock android which is fully stable .
On benchmarks it benches better than the G2 and is much cheaper.
If you love stock android then the Nexus 5 is the greatest phone you can currently get.
Tip:
Also don't try to use the term CFW (Custom Firmware), people on xda won't usually know it, use the word ROM (Read Only Memory).
I find this is actually funny because we have root in them and we can make everything read-write
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LouieeeV said:
What's up everyone I currently have a Galaxy S4 for Verizon and unfortunately it came stock with ME7 . Im tired of verizon and there restrictions and I miss running a CFW and having a root. Im more then likely going to T-Mobile and getting Unlimited Data. The 2 phones on the top of my list are the Lg g2 and this New Nexus 5. I love both phones but I do like the stock android from a Nexus. I would love to hear your suggestions even if it isnt a phone thats not on my list. In a sense im looking for a new phone to stick with for a good amount of time. Thanks for any advice and help in advance! :thumbup:
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Also I don't live in America but I heard that you can't run the nexus 5 with Verizon.
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So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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LouieeeV said:
So theres no external SD Card which I admit does bother me just because the more space the better. I dont umderstand why Google didnt put one in the Nexus 5...
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Google never allows sd cards in the nexus devices. They never will. They say they are too slow for a top end type device.
Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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The G2 has the screen size, battery and camera advantages which is not something to overlook, if they were closely priced I'd go for the G2. Now if you can get some dough off due to contract extension and plan to stay with your carrier, the G2 can still be an attractive offer. Overall though, buying both unlocked and the Nexus 5 is just so awesomely priced. So it's a matter of looking at your options.
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Yea I guess ill have tp get the 32 GB version so I never feel limited for space :thumbup:
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That is what I got. I have a 64gb card in my sgs3, so it will be hard, but the thing that makes it worth it, is how easy it is to dev/hack.
Haha, i was on the same boat. I love the G2 Screen and the lack of bezel. Overall the decision came down to software and speed. I always go with a custom ROM cause i like stock, (yes u can do this on the g2) but the fact that i will be getting the latest and greatest updates first is a huge + for me. Thus why i decided on the Nexus.
I say go Nexus!.
Nexus is looking like a go especially with 4g and unlimited data on T-Mobile sounds pretty good to me so far
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Nexus 5, and it's not close.
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How you can be a recognized contributor and come out with such a poor statement is quite scary...
Anyway it is VERY close.
The G2 has a bigger screen, yet only a fraction larger. (~1mm all around). And weigh's in negligible over the N5 yet has a 3000mah battery instead of 2300. Then it has a 13mp camera with the same tech as the 8mp Nexus 5.
The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
They share the same CPU/GPU/Ram. The Nexus 5 will likely be quicker due to KitKat/AOSP, but it will only be a matter of weeks and the G2 will have that also so if having it first is important to you, then again N5.
They also share the same radios/spectrums/etc.. so N5 is unlocked vs LG G2 probably/possibly being locked to one carrier. Important factor for some.
Clearly I don't think one is a "winner", I have the G2, and I pre-ordered the N5. I want to check out KitKat and see how it performs/battery life with only 2300mah but KitKat optimized. I plan to pick the winner (for me) once I have them side by side for a while.
Either way, they are most CERTAINLY close. The question is (in most markets) is ~$150-200 worth a bigger screen/battery/camera and the loss of immediate updates/better rom development. In that case, for most, the answer seems to be no.
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The Nexus 5 wins in price (for most, some countries not so much), Software Support (I won't say software because the LG Software is actually pretty smooth on the G2 and the feature set isn't bad, but of course not KiKat, yet).
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Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
Simba501 said:
Precisely why it's not close. Price and software development.
While the G2 will likely have developers to create some AOSP goodness for it, the lifespan of Nexus devices is always considerably longer than others. AOSP never runs as smoothly, with little bugs, as it does on actual Google devices.
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Absolutely, if your only importance is ROM's and having the latest software first, or the longest amount of support for updates, then it is not close.
Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life. The G2 is a battery monster, so I expect to be disappointed by the N5, but I absolutely hope I am wrong. Also in some countries the price is almost negligible. Plus if you have an upgrade and stick with the same carrier anyway, you can have the G2 for $150-200 vs $440 (32gb vs 32gb), so that is another factor. A lot goes in to play for this. Just simply saying it is cheaper is not enough.
When comparing ALL factors though, I stand by my previous statements. Personally I wouldn't let development allow me to be hooked to only owning a Nexus but that is absolutely the key factor for some people, I get that. Battery life is a huge importance to me and until I can see how it lasts with my own eyes I take the specs with a truckload of salt. With a 30% less battery size on the same hardware KitKat is going to have to do some pretty superb savings to keep it close.
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If you're looking at the hardware, with respect to no other factors, then it is close. Otherwise, no.
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If you looked at hardware specs only and no other factors, it is NOT close. The G2 wins hands down if you take out software and price, but that would be just plain silly.
In case anyone misinterprets my statements, I am not saying I think one is better than the other. I think both have their +'s and personally I don't find either a clear winner. That is all.
While I'm still going with the N5 for the rom support, Sprint is selling the N5 for $149 and the G2 for $99 (both with 2 year contracts), so the G2 actually wins the price debate.
Edit: whoops had too many tabs open and got this thread confused with one that was just for Sprint. Still, I imagine TMo will sell the G2 for either the same price or less than the N5 to stay competitive.
If usbOTG is present in the N5 then you can simply attach a microsd card to a microsd to USB to the usbOTG adapter (too many adapters) or simply a flashdrive. While it may be a pain to carry around it will at least extend the capacity.
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Price is personal. I have absolutely no problem spending the extra $150 if it means better battery life.
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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150 dollars for an extra 700mAh is just not worth it in my opinion. im enjoying a 15,000mAh power bank that i got for 50 bucks and will put the extra 100 dollars toward a new phone in 2-4 years
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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Well if that were the only factor that is a pretty harsh bargain for sure but 700mah in this case IS 30% larger. That is not small. You also get 13mp vs 8 and .2" bigger screen. Again not that I think it is a winning decision either, tough call and personal preference. I just think it is worth more consideration than people are giving.
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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meh, you're in the heart of public android development. of course people here are going to side with a Nexus device. not that people here aren't considering the specs, but we put more of an emphasis on the pure android experience.
i feel the same way about people here complaining about no sd slot. this is just not the place to voice that opinion, it will not bring them any sympathy. this is not a consumer forum
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haha too funny, I agree 100%. SD and Removable battery mean 0 to me, always have.
But yeah I get it :good:

Has anyone come to the N5 from an iPhone 5S?

As the title says, I'm wondering if anyone has made the switch and how you've all felt about it?
I realise these threads are horrible, but I'm pretty scared about the switch (not sure why! I used to love android) from iOS to Android and would like to hear others experiences!
Thanks in advanced guys/girls
Dixi1801
Dixi1801 said:
As the title says, I'm wondering if anyone has made the switch and how you've all felt about it?
I realise these threads are horrible, but I'm pretty scared about the switch (not sure why! I used to love android) from iOS to Android and would like to hear others experiences!
Thanks in advanced guys/girls
Dixi1801
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Android hasn't changed much since from when you've switched (2013? From your profile?) The Nexus 5 is a great phone, and its pure android experience is much better in my opinion than using an iPhone. I've used a 5S for a couple of days, just couldn't stick with me.
Why are you wanting to switch back?
Beauenheim said:
Android hasn't changed much since from when you've switched (2013? From your profile?) The Nexus 5 is a great phone, and its pure android experience is much better in my opinion than using an iPhone. I've used a 5S for a couple of days, just couldn't stick with me.
Why are you wanting to switch back?
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Round about there, with my note!
I'm wanting to switch, well, going to switch because I need some money for some bills... So selling my iPhone seems logical!
Plus, the nexus 5 is almost new and going for £180 from a friend, which I can't moan at! A powerful device for barely any money, and the left over money pays my bills off!
I love the customisation options of android, and rooting and flashing is what brought me to android in the first place, I fear I've become the typical apple user... Used to the walled garden and scared to move away haha!
Dixi1801 said:
Round about there, with my note!
I'm wanting to switch, well, going to switch because I need some money for some bills... So selling my iPhone seems logical!
Plus, the nexus 5 is almost new and going for £180 from a friend, which I can't moan at! A powerful device for barely any money, and the left over money pays my bills off!
I love the customisation options of android, and rooting and flashing is what brought me to android in the first place, I fear I've become the typical apple user... Used to the walled garden and scared to move away haha!
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My wife had the iPhone 4 4s and the 5c.I got her a n5 like mine after about a week of me teaching her about fastboot and adb she can sideload and install like a pro,she's been using iOS for years so Ive got faith in you
habitformer said:
My wife had the iPhone 4 4s and the 5c.I got her a n5 like mine after about a week of me teaching her about fastboot and adb she can sideload and install like a pro,she's been using iOS for years so Ive got faith in you
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Thanks so much for that, I read about the camera being a bit poo, but I've read from users it's not that bad, I know reviewers have to play on some things haha.
Getting a bit excited for it now, just waiting for the guy selling it to get in touch. He won an M8 at work, so he's shifting his nexus lol, lucky sod.
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Thanks so much for that, I read about the camera being a bit poo, but I've read from users it's not that bad, I know reviewers have to play on some things haha.
Getting a bit excited for it now, just waiting for the guy selling it to get in touch. He won an M8 at work, so he's shifting his nexus lol, lucky sod.
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Its funny now that understands why I think android as a whole is better.My wife will look at other people and try to help them in carrier stores. That's how quick she was.Me I'm just like,(in carrier stores) Root your phone and remove all crap that's installed you'll like it better.
habitformer said:
My wife had the iPhone 4 4s and the 5c.I got her a n5 like mine after about a week of me teaching her about fastboot and adb she can sideload and install like a pro,she's been using iOS for years so Ive got faith in you
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I'm in the same boat as you. The other day my girlfriend was like "I think instead of the iPhone 6, I want a phone like you have". I thought I had heart failure for a second I was like huh?!? She has been using apple her whole life but She said she loves the customization. She wouldn't get into flashing Roms and so on but I would set it up like my n5 is so she could customize away, and show her some.of the screens on the home screen thread because the possibilities are endless.
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Dixi1801 said:
Thanks so much for that, I read about the camera being a bit poo, but I've read from users it's not that bad, I know reviewers have to play on some things haha.
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Well, the camera isn't great. It's probably the worst of the mainstream smartphone cameras (HTC One, Galaxy S4/S5, iPhone 5S, etc...) but it's serviceable for basic point-and-shoot work.
Dixi1801 said:
As the title says, I'm wondering if anyone has made the switch and how you've all felt about it?
I realise these threads are horrible, but I'm pretty scared about the switch (not sure why! I used to love android) from iOS to Android and would like to hear others experiences!
Thanks in advanced guys/girls
Dixi1801
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I would suggest you to just go for it , I am a content N5 user. It will take time to get used, but once you get on with the customization part you will start loving it. All the best .:good:
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Well, the camera isn't great. It's probably the worst of the mainstream smartphone cameras (HTC One, Galaxy S4/S5, iPhone 5S, etc...) but it's serviceable for basic point-and-shoot work.
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Then check this thread out. A lot of people say otherwise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553258
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I came from a 4s to the Nexus 4 and haven't looked back, and probably won't unless Google does something terrible with Android and perhaps the next rev of Nexus.
The last person I knew with an iPhone and not a Nexus5, was trying to put their life back together!
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I'm in the same boat as you. The other day my girlfriend was like "I think instead of the iPhone 6, I want a phone like you have". I thought I had heart failure for a second I was like huh?!? She has been using apple her whole life but She said she loves the customization. She wouldn't get into flashing Roms and so on but I would set it up like my n5 is so she could customize away, and show her some.of the screens on the home screen thread because the possibilities are endless.
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Even slim isn't my 1st choice my wife is actually making "her own" build. She wants a "girl version"Whatever the F that means. Serious though it's a big change for most to switch os to os.Be supportive:good:
@D.D.P. what do you think
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Even slim isn't my 1st choice my wife is actually making "her own" build. She wants a "girl version"Whatever the F that means. Serious though it's a big change for most to switch os to os.Be supportive:good:
@D.D.P. what do you think
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Though I loved hacking and available hacks and mods and the devs on Cydia, I'd never go iOS over android os. I have compared the two, and I can't say I'd stay if I was making this transition.
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Though I loved hacking and available hacks and mods and the devs on Cydia, I'd never go iOS over android os. I have compared the two, and I can't say I'd stay if I was making this transition.
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In the "smart"phone era I went BlackBerry (which at the time of the middle 2000's was great for my business a d employees) to windows(palm) to apple 3g/s to the tilt( android) I found windows to iOS was harder than iOS to Android..
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In the "smart"phone era I went BlackBerry (which at the time of the middle 2000's was great for my business a d employees) to windows(palm) to apple 3g/s to the tilt( android) I found windows to iOS was harder than iOS to Android..
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Right, but android is a win for UI, for easy "noob"-friendly modding, and BB is always good for business. IOS is simply a popularity ploy and does nothing for me professionally or personally. I can hack and mod android to become the work I don't want to do. Its easy for anyone. Plain and simple.
Nexus 5 is more for like the Android geeks who love to flash roms and kernals and isn't afraid of anything
If you like the user experience with an iPhone I would recommend you the HTC One
its got the same build has the iPhone 5s and has amazing sound and a amazing microphone
Sound wise it literally blows the iPhone 5S and Nexus 5
I have a iPhone 5s and a Nexus 5 and the HTC One and a Galaxy Note 2 (I got alot of phones)
I love the HTC one and the Note 2 and Nexus 5
iPhone isn't just my thing, if i do go to like a party of whatever I carry both the HTC and iPhone for picture quality.
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Right, but android is a win for UI, for easy "noob"-friendly modding, and BB is always good for business. IOS is simply a popularity ploy and does nothing for me professionally or personally. I can hack and mod android to become the work I don't want to do. Its easy for anyone. Plain and simple.
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Nexus 5 is more for like the Android geeks who love to flash roms and kernals and isn't afraid of anything
If you like the user experience with an iPhone I would recommend you the HTC One
its got the same build has the iPhone 5s and has amazing sound and a amazing microphone
Sound wise it literally blows the iPhone 5S and Nexus 5
I have a iPhone 5s and a Nexus 5 and the HTC One and a Galaxy Note 2 (I got alot of phones)
I love the HTC one and the Note 2 and Nexus 5
iPhone isn't just my thing, if i do go to like a party of whatever I carry both the HTC and iPhone for picture quality.
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Agreed.lots of logic between these two posts.
My note 2 is a mistake.I for it while had galaxy nexus,hoping to make me switch from nexus.I didn't work a d my note two became a spare back up for my Gnexus..I waited the 2 years for it to come.couldn't be happier. I really think apple owners have issues with "keeping up with friend's and there iphones or I pads....Me I want to not just own my device.Freely from carriers and OEM crap.
This thread went a bit off topic, please keep to the original discussion in the thread title.
Thanks
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s3 to n5?

I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
Aside from possibly the camera...and no SD slot.....yes, a huge upgrade. IMHO.
I just came from my GS3 to the N5 and the difference is night and day. Even with a KitKat rom on my GS3 it isnt nearly as fast and smooth as the N5.
Not to mention N5 roms are nearly bug free.
You do lose the SD card as mentioned above, the camera (I think) is a little better quality.
Battery is way better.
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.
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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.
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You won't be disappointed with the upgrade. Went from i747 to N5 and everything is so much smoother. Keep your s3 with a proven rom as a backup but don't expect to jump back to it once you feel the difference in speed and reliability of the nexus 5.
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kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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I came 2 days ago from a d2spr. I can't begin to explain the night and day difference between the 2.
Hardware aside, the development here is way more active than on the s3 side. Hope to see you here.....
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I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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One and half month back I had the same confusion regarding this.
But after switching to N5, I am quite happy than before, until and unless you experience it you wont understand the differences of its software and hardware from S3.
Wi Fi Direct
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5
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Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5
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Never used it...
galaxy s5 is better
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watalee said:
galaxy s5 is better
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Please don't troll.
"better" is subjective. Samsung cannot make a touchwiz device that doesn't lag. All of us who have had Galaxy devices know this. The s5 is no exception. The OP did not mention the S5. If he wanted an S5, he would have posted this in the S5 forum. Lets try to stay on topic please.
For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5
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For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5
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That's exactly why I was looking at the n5 and not the s5. I found a 32gb black nexus for $315 on swappa so it's on its way now. I know the s5 has better stats on paper but it would also ruin any warranty if I rooted it ( samsungs counter). I like experimenting with different roms and I haven't used tpuchwiz for months. I know the n5 isn't exactly new but it's new enough that it should get the next update version of andriod.
I came from the Note 2, which is similar spec to the S3, and here’s what I miss the most:
-Wolfson DAC: With DAC Direct, audio sounded far superior on Note 2 (the reason audiophiles love Samsung phones)
-APT-X Bluetooth Codec: Again, sounds far superior to standard BT audio
-Phase Detection Auto Focus: For fast focus lock. N5 uses contrast detection, which is why it’s slow to focus
-Camera voice commands: Handy when taking photos of the kids / pets etc
-Expandable Storage: I would have liked the option to use my own SD cards, however I have bought a USB OTG SD card reader so this point is moot now
Apart from that I couldn’t be happier with the N5, and am actually happy to be rid of all Samsung’s gimmicks and so called “features”.
So if you haven’t already, go for it!
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above
kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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CitizenLee said:
This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above
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Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276
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Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276
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I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
Good post though, hit the nail on the head regarding tolerance, human error, and everything else really.
Like yourself I have light bleed, but I can live with it as it's only noticeable when it boots up.
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I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.
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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.
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Aye, seems to be quite common these days that websites run a story without properly fact checking!

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