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Nav bar is really annoying and it consumes so much space on the screen.
It's OK on devices like Nexus 10, but it makes 5 inch screen to be 4.5 or even less.
Why google doesn't op-in the touch buttons on the lower body like Galaxy ?
Rhetorical question?
I don't think it really moves it from 5" to 4.5". Probably more like 4.8".
If you don't like it, definitely look out for customer roms. Even CM offers full screen mode. But there will be plenty of ROM's with PIE available within the next few weeks.
I hope Google gives us the option to hide it a bit more, such as in the camera, video and gallery apps...
It's a waste of space and is one of my major gripes with the phone (I still love it).
I do find that the extra bevel space at the bottom gives you a much better place to grip the phone.
Get another phone.
DanVanDamn said:
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It's not. How easy is it to take same approach as galaxy ? I don't see any cons in doing that.
It's just terrible how much useful space it eats up now.
I got rid of my navbar. Using pie controls instead. The extra screen real estate is awesome, especially for gaming.
_MetalHead_ said:
I got rid of my navbar. Using pie controls instead. The extra screen real estate is awesome, especially for gaming.
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I've been looking into this all day and failing miserably. Please do tell
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jodvova said:
Nav bar is really annoying and it consumes so much space on the screen.
It's OK on devices like Nexus 10, but it makes 5 inch screen to be 4.5 or even less.
Why google doesn't op-in the touch buttons on the lower body like Galaxy ?
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This is the third nexus phone that includes the navbar and you're acting like it's the first time you've ever heard of it. If you wanted a phone with capacitive buttons, you could've purchased one.
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SymbioticGenius said:
I've been looking into this all day and failing miserably. Please do tell
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This is the app I use for the pie controls- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.eatheat.pie
Add this to your build.prop to get rid of your navbar- qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
maxpower7 said:
This is the third nexus phone that includes the navbar and you're acting like it's the first time you've ever heard of it. If you wanted a phone with capacitive buttons, you could've purchased one.
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I'm just complaining. Nav bar on 5 inch screen is stupid. Anything that is stupid should be eliminated.
jodvova said:
I'm just complaining. Nav bar on 5 inch screen is stupid. Anything that is stupid should be eliminated.
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Thanks for telling us what is stupid. I (and most others) like the on-screen keys. I guess we (and Google) are wrong. So thank you! Are there any other opinions of yours that I should have?
I like the navbar, I just don't like how big it is. Once Xposed is working for 4.4 I'll ditch the pie controls and just shrink the navbar down to my liking.
jodvova said:
I'm just complaining. Nav bar on 5 inch screen is stupid. Anything that is stupid should be eliminated.
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I like the navbar, and it's a key feature of Nexus devices. If you think it's stupid, don't get a Nexus device. Simple as that.
I swear, this is just like people who buy Samsung phones and then complain that they hate Touchwiz. If you hate an intrinsic property of a specific phone, maybe just don't buy that phone. Seems pretty obvious to me.
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jodvova said:
It's just terrible how much useful space it eats up now.
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You do know that the nav bar goes away for full screen apps made with 4.4 in mind and in nearly all full screen videos until the screen is touched, right? What do you need that extra space for when you're not watching a video or playing a game?
afazel said:
You do know that the nav bar goes away for full screen apps made with 4.4 in mind and in nearly all full screen videos until the screen is touched, right? What do you need that extra space for when you're not watching a video or playing a game?
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Can you name the apps please ?
So far I've noticed that following apps don't work in a full screen mode:
gmail
chrome
contacts
calendar
camera
and etc.
brkshr said:
Thanks for telling us what is stupid. I (and most others) like the on-screen keys. I guess we (and Google) are wrong. So thank you! Are there any other opinions of yours that I should have?
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Google was never fast at coming with good designs. It took them like 2-3 years to come up with a nice looking design for android. Same for web.
So I hope in a next iteration they will get rid of nav bar on phones whatsoever.
Count me in as a nav bar supporter. It's not like it takes up that much space. Plus, on custom roms, you can customize it, which is a lot of fun as well!
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Can you name the apps please ?
So far I've noticed that following apps don't work in a full screen mode:
gmail
chrome
contacts
calendar
camera
and etc.
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None of those are full screen apps. Try YouTube and Netflix.
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Hi, a friend of mine just switched to the N5 from the iphone. He's looking for the ability, similar to the iphone, to swipe up on the screen when the screen is off to turn it on. Is this possible with the N5? I haven't seen it mentioned so I'm guessing it isn't an option. Thanks.
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Hi, a friend of mine just switched to the N5 from the iphone. He's looking for the ability, similar to the iphone, to swipe up on the screen when the screen is off to turn it on. Is this possible with the N5? I haven't seen it mentioned so I'm guessing it isn't an option. Thanks.
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Swipe up to turn on screen when its off on iOS? Wut?
RusherDude said:
Swipe up to turn on screen when its off on iOS? Wut?
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That's what he's telling me. He's been a long time iphone user, I never had one.
mgerbasio said:
That's what he's telling me. He's been a long time iphone user, I never had one.
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I'm googling about that feature and cant find anything about it.. are you sure he's talking about waking up screen when its OFF?
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I'm googling about that feature and cant find anything about it.. are you sure he's talking about waking up screen when its OFF?
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I also googled it but came up empty too. Guess I miss understood him, will check with him tomorrow. Thanks.
Yeah the iPhone definitely doesn't have that capability, at least not without some serious jailbreak hacks. Maybe he's just pressing the home button on accident when he 'swipes'.
IPhones don't have it. I'm 100% sure. But android does. You can slide across the screen or double tap to turn it on with faux kernel or Nexus Touch control (doesn't wok with the nexus 5 yet)
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aooga said:
IPhones don't have it. I'm 100% sure. But android does. You can slide across the screen or double tap to turn it on with faux kernel or Nexus Touch control (doesn't wok with the nexus 5 yet)
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Are you saying that these kernels will eventually support it for Nexus 5?
I'm currently using Faux but I don't see that functionality anywhere.
Megiddo2000 said:
Are you saying that these kernels will eventually support it for Nexus 5?
I'm currently using Faux but I don't see that functionality anywhere.
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Not yet, but it's possible it will support it in the future.
Yea... i used to use an iPhone (owned a 3GS and 4 before switching to Android with the Motorola Atrix) and never saw such a feature with those. Can't imagine that being something Apple would do. Unless, of course... Google decides to do it at some point. Then maybe Apple will do something similar 3 years prior.
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Are you saying that these kernels will eventually support it for Nexus 5?
I'm currently using Faux but I don't see that functionality anywhere.
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Yeah. Pretty soon the kernel devs are going to start implementing those features just like in the N4.
Went back to my friend and told him the feedback. He forgot it was his BB Z10, not the iphone so that clears it up. Still would be a nice feature.
What are the chances of the Nexus 6 having the active display like the Moto X?
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What are the chances of the Nexus 6 having the active display like the Moto X?
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Id say Zero, that's a Motorola-Only feature.
Also, Leaked images show the display is LCD, not AMOLED.
I'm not sure, I'm still holding out hope for a super amoled
Isn't the Nexus line bare bone stock
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Bare bones? Nope. Stock Nexus is Android with a Google skin.
dicecuber said:
Isn't the Nexus line bare bone stock
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Wakamatsu said:
Bare bones? Nope. Stock Nexus is Android with a Google skin.
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Yes and no. AOSP is bare bones. Stock has a little more Google over and above gapps, but not a great deal
Features from moto and lg that we don't get are proprietary software with hardware dependencies too, so no we won't get them on the nexus X
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Fortunately there are many 3rd party options from the Play Store such as:
DynamicNotifications
AcDisplay
Active Display
Keep in mind only OLED panels can disable individual pixels. Other LCDs require the full screen to be on or off at all times so these could cause considerable battery drain.
bblzd said:
Fortunately there are many 3rd party options from the Play Store such as:
DynamicNotifications
AcDisplay
Active Display
Keep in mind only OLED panels can disable individual pixels. Other LCDs require the full screen to be on or off at all times so these could cause considerable battery drain.
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Yeah. All these apps with the one liks Peek by Franco come close!
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rahulpat13 said:
Yeah. All these apps with the one liks Peek by Franco come close!
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Franco isn't the dev of Peek app but a colombian guy. The app content has been transfered to this guy BTW and the original app is just an unlocker tool now.
Primokorn said:
Franco isn't the dev of Peek app but a colombian guy. The app content has been transfered to this guy BTW and the original app is just an unlocker tool now.
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Looks like PA (moreso, ROMs based off it, or ones that cherry-picked built-in Peek) need to update the code that disables built-in Peek when the app is installed, to reflect the new package name (rather than the unlocker). lol
So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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Zero.
y2whisper said:
So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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None. ActiveDisplay is a proprietary Motorola software. Google very rarely have added alternatives to complex proprietary functions. It's not completely unheard of (quick tiles for example) but for something that has a hardware limitation and dependency, no way
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So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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Even if they did (which they won't because that's owned by Motorola) it would be restricted to OLED screens only. Only OLED screen phones have ever had such functionality built in, such as the Moto X and certain Nokia Windows Phones with Glance support.
What's wrong with using one of the many 3rd party options?
I used DynamicNotifications on my Nexus 5 over 6 months ago. It was buggy and quirky.
My phone would get hot in my pocket and I pulled it out to see whats going on. DynamicNotifications was turning my screen on and off repeatedly for some reason. I don't know how Motorola handles the phone lock but DynamicNotifications' way of locking the phone isn't secure. If I disable the system's security lock and enable DN's, it could be bypassed by turning off the phone and turning back it. It isn't as bullet proof as the system's.
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I used DynamicNotifications on my Nexus 5 over 6 months ago. It was buggy and quirky.
My phone would get hot in my pocket and I pulled it out to see whats going on. DynamicNotifications was turning my screen on and off repeatedly for some reason. I don't know how Motorola handles the phone lock but DynamicNotifications' way of locking the phone isn't secure. If I disable the system's security lock and enable DN's, it could be bypassed by turning off the phone and turning back it. It isn't as bullet proof as the system's.
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You probably set it up wrong.
The Peek app and AcDisplay worked fine for me when I tested them.
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Fortunately there are many 3rd party options from the Play Store such as:
DynamicNotifications
AcDisplay
Active Display
Keep in mind only OLED panels can disable individual pixels. Other LCDs require the full screen to be on or off at all times so these could cause considerable battery drain.
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garyHal said:
I used DynamicNotifications on my Nexus 5 over 6 months ago. It was buggy and quirky.
My phone would get hot in my pocket and I pulled it out to see whats going on. DynamicNotifications was turning my screen on and off repeatedly for some reason. I don't know how Motorola handles the phone lock but DynamicNotifications' way of locking the phone isn't secure. If I disable the system's security lock and enable DN's, it could be bypassed by turning off the phone and turning back it. It isn't as bullet proof as the system's.
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Did you try any of the other options? I listed a couple but there are many more.
I have not tried the other two options. They were not feature complete at the time.
Right now, I am using Gravity Screen which does everything I need, except for the "breathing" notification.
On the 6.0 update?
For me...
1. Faster fingerprint reader/unlock animation
2. New keyboard layout
3. Finally having an option to switch to pin code for alternative option if fingerprint isnt working
4. Adjustments on touchwiz
5. Google now on tap
6. New emojis
7.Faster phone ?? (hopefully)
Is speed an issue? My Note5 is smooth and quick. *shrug* Now on Tap is actually pretty cool. I don't use a protective lock screen so I don't know about that. I'd like to be able to activate Samsung Pay with a swipe up from the S-View window, but that won't happen.
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Is speed an issue? My Note5 is smooth and quick. *shrug* Now on Tap is actually pretty cool. I don't use a protective lock screen so I don't know about that. I'd like to be able to activate Samsung Pay with a swipe up from the S-View window, but that won't happen.
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Speed is definitely not an issue lol, but there are somethings that need a speed improvement.. such as the fingerprint reader. I just hope i dont see any lag. Im assuming you use Find my mobile? if you dont use a protective lock screen. And i dont use samsung pay or NFC payment for that matter, but i understand your struggle haha.
I could root my device, but i choose not to. Reason being is it will possibly lose value once Knox has been tripped.
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Speed is definitely not an issue lol, but there are somethings that need a speed improvement.. such as the fingerprint reader. I just hope i dont see any lag. Im assuming you use Find my mobile? if you dont use a protective lock screen. And i dont use samsung pay or NFC payment for that matter, but i understand youre struggle haha.
I could root my device, but i choose not to. Reason being is it will possibly lose value once Knox has been tripped.
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I do use Find my Mobile but I also use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rickclephas.fingersecurity to lock certain apps. It only locks those apps when I am not connected to my WiFi or my cars Bluetooth. Maybe with the new fingerprint API I'll lock the whole phone up.
I also noticed when watching marshmallow beta for s6/s6 edge is that the capacitive buttons dont light up when touching the screen... which is a smart move from samsung. It saves battery and it makes sense. It only lights up when pressing them or when pressing the home button.
PDXMatt said:
I do use Find my Mobile but I also use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rickclephas.fingersecurity to lock certain apps. It only locks those apps when I am not connected to my WiFi or my cars Bluetooth. Maybe with the new fingerprint API I'll lock the whole phone up.
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Thats looks like a really useful app! And yes, really looking forward to the new fingerprint API. We can finally make purchases with just our fingerprint reader on play store, amazon, ebay, etc... hopefully.
I hope they fix the keyboard lag I have with every keyboard.
New emojis?! What are the supposed to look like in 6.0? Also what is Google on tap?
geeshiet said:
I also noticed when watching marshmallow beta for s6/s6 edge is that the capacitive buttons dont light up when touching the screen... which is a smart move from samsung. It saves battery and it makes sense. It only lights up when pressing them or when pressing the home button.
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Actually it makes no sense, whatsoever. The entire point of the capacitive buttons lighting up when you touch the screen is so you can see them in the dark in order to press them.. lighting up when you touch them makes zero sense, why would I need them to do THAT?
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Actually it makes no sense, whatsoever. The entire point of the capacitive buttons lighting up when you touch the screen is so you can see them in the dark in order to press them.. lighting up when you touch them makes zero sense, why would I need them to do THAT?
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It only takes about an hour to learn which is which... Its unecessary for the lights to turn on everytime you touch the screen, its just pointless.
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It only takes about an hour to learn which is which... Its unecessary for the lights to turn on everytime you touch the screen, its just pointless.
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They didn't light up because it was a Beta and the rooted kernel broke it even more on some devices, but made them work better on other devices. There's also mods you can use to just turn them off if you don't like them. Xposed. Or just go into the settings!!!
Also, just because you don't like them being on, doesn't mean that they are pointless. Tests have also been done to see just how much battery life is affected by Capacitive buttons and you can't even tell how much they use.
By the way, a lot of people like myself, work in dark places and have to use our phones. Think about that for a minute.:good:
The only thing I'm looking forward to is a phone that doesn't get an update and have it cause the phone to be worse than before. Right now my stock Note 5 works just fine.
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I'm just looking forward to my ohone being updated at all. Lol
Once we get the update I will be looking forward to no more posts about getting the update..
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pcriz said:
Once we get the update I will be looking forward to no more posts about getting the update..
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Followed by people complaining that the update ruined their phone.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/att-galaxy-note-5-marshmallow-beta-671153/
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Actually it makes no sense, whatsoever. The entire point of the capacitive buttons lighting up when you touch the screen is so you can see them in the dark in order to press them.. lighting up when you touch them makes zero sense, why would I need them to do THAT?
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Maybe they could have it only light up when it's dark..
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Once we get the update I will be looking forward to no more posts about getting the update..
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Not going to happen because people will start complaining about not getting Android 7 update
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They didn't light up because it was a Beta and the rooted kernel broke it even more on some devices, but made them work better on other devices. There's also mods you can use to just turn them off if you don't like them. Xposed. Or just go into the settings!!!
Also, just because you don't like them being on, doesn't mean that they are pointless. Tests have also been done to see just how much battery life is affected by Capacitive buttons and you can't even tell how much they use.
By the way, a lot of people like myself, work in dark places and have to use our phones. Think about that for a minute.:good:
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Well judging by the videos people post about MM update or s7 edge with MM, it doesn't light up when touching the screen. Lol.
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Well judging by the videos people post about MM update or s7 edge with MM, it doesn't light up when touching the screen. Lol.
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You decided to quote me and revive this olds thread. Dang. I'm so sorry.
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New OP7, read about the "adaptive brightness" setting, but so far I find the phone way too bright compared with my previous one.
On the old phone I used to have "EasyEyes" installed to add that red filter, wondering if that's something that is no longer useful now (has that been incorporated in Android Pie?), or are you guys still using these types of programs?
Hoping to find the most restful setup for the eyes!
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New OP7, read about the "adaptive brightness" setting, but so far I find the phone way too bright compared with my previous one.
On the old phone I used to have "EasyEyes" installed to add that red filter, wondering if that's something that is no longer useful now (has that been incorporated in Android Pie?), or are you guys still using these types of programs?
Hoping to find the most restful setup for the eyes!
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Night mode (red filter) is built into OOS under Display Settings.
Thanks for that — that's news to me.
In your opinion, does that work well? (Well enough to stop using something like EasyEyes?)
who ah way said:
Thanks for that — that's news to me.
In your opinion, does that work well? (Well enough to stop using something like EasyEyes?)
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I use it every night about 8pm it'll kick in automatically... Very useful
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I use it every night about 8pm it'll kick in automatically... Very useful
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Thanks for replying, sorry but I didn't understand what you meant. Do you mean that everynight EasyEyes kicks off, or Night mode from OOS under Display Settings?
who ah way said:
Thanks for replying, sorry but I didn't understand what you meant. Do you mean that everynight EasyEyes kicks off, or Night mode from OOS under Display Settings?
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Night mode if you set it the way you want it'll cut on and turn off at your certain time
Thank you.