Anyone remember the change.org petition for our One S to get Sense 5? It got over 10,000 signs and there were some rumors that HTC will release an official update - but thats it.
HTC released Android 4.2.2 plus Sense 5 for the HTC One SV (worse device that ours) and left us behind again. So don't ever except an update for our device.
MAYBE, htc will skip 4.2/4.3 and HOPEFULLY give us KitKat
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MAYBE, htc will skip 4.2/4.3 and HOPEFULLY give us KitKat
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Never going to happen because of the s3 version of the one s
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Agree with that . And personally i think HTC don't care about update.. their principal motivation is trying to challenge their rival samsung and apple on the market. That's why they put out 3 or 6 devices in the same year . Update is not a good thing for them cause if they make some update for the one series (x,s,v,sv,xl,x+) then they cannot sell device like they do at this moment. Their politics is like that : (update=new device).. the only thing HTC care about is money.
I love HTC device and sense UI but HTC don't care about their users..
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well i chose to stay optimistic
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well i chose to stay optimistic
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Just stating facts
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i know you are, but we WILL get kitkat, one way or another
Hello. I wrote some emails to Jason McKenzie (the president of HTC US) and he answered that an update for our device will never come. I sent him like 10 mails and he answer always, but the response is the same: they can't roll out the update some some reason that are in their control and others that they can't control. If someone interested, I can publish some content of the mail..
HTC One S MaximusHD 10
Chazy12 said:
Hello. I wrote some emails to Jason McKenzie (the president of HTC US) and he answered that an update for our device will never come. I sent him like 10 mails and he answer always, but the response is the same: they can't roll out the update some some reason that are in their control and others that they can't control. If someone interested, I can publish some content of the mail..
HTC One S MaximusHD 10
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Sure, why not.
CM 11 will also not come to One S. Or it will not work properly (dont ever expect working camera,bluetooth and much more)
Ok. This is the fist answer to my mail: 'I understand your frustration and am personally driving a focus on upgrade commitments for our customers. *Unfortunately, the decision to upgrade or not upgrade is not solely an HTC decision. *We also require carrier approval. As a company, we are focused on delivering strong sw experiences that resonate with customers which is why we invest in HTC sense.*
It's also important to note that of all the android suppliers, HTC has the strongest track record of updates as validated by 3rd parties. With that said, we are far from satisfied and*my vision is that we deliver highly transparent information to our customers with clear commitment around certain products. *
As you note, we are not scheduled globally to update the One S. This is true for a variety of reasons some that are in our control and others that are not. And I'm sorry for this, but do believe it is a strong phone with strong sw given the investment we've made to improve the os.*
Thanks'
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It's just bs all over never getting another HTC device
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htc are a disgrace
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Anyone remember the change.org petition for our One S to get Sense 5? It got over 10,000 signs and there were some rumors that HTC will release an official update - but thats it.
HTC released Android 4.2.2 plus Sense 5 for the HTC One SV (worse device that ours) and left us behind again. So don't ever except an update for our device.
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The MaximusHD ROM is apparently the semi-official update that HTC promised.
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Sure, why not.
CM 11 will also not come to One S. Or it will not work properly (dont ever expect working camera,bluetooth and much more)
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I won't be so sure about that, i've read on CM10.2 thread that some dev are working on it and it seams to work pretty well and more KitKat update seams to fix some reboot problems. And Cyanogen limit for a phone, as told, is like for Google 512Mo of ram and a decent CPU so I think we will not be left behind
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HTC isn't a disgrace. It's just a mobile phone company who struggle with many problems: deficit income, competitors such as Apple and Samsung, smartphones market pressure, etc. I pray they will stand up and back stronger with new innovations. We need to stay positive and optimistic.
For me htc is the best in innovation, they bring a very full UI with tons of settings, 3d, best improvement in sound, very good innivation in camera .. people are obsessed with apple but apple suck in innovation ( 4 generation of device with same UI)
I hope they will care more about their users and back with a bomb who will blow their rivals .
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I. Love this phone i've finally super cid and s-off and put on Max hd you would think I'd be happy but no I find my fingers itching to try another rom it's crazy why can't I just be happy and leave it alone helpppp lol
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The MaximusHD ROM is apparently the semi-official update that HTC promised.
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Why is that? It's not the official OTA update for everyone they promised.
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I won't be so sure about that, i've read on CM10.2 thread that some dev are working on it and it seams to work pretty well and more KitKat update seams to fix some reboot problems. And Cyanogen limit for a phone, as told, is like for Google 512Mo of ram and a decent CPU so I think we will not be left behind
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In case of hardware KitKat would run excellent on the One S no question.
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Why is that? It's not the official OTA update for everyone they promised.
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No over-the-air update was promised; just an update was 'promised', if you can even call it that.
That ROM is based on semi-official sources; i.e. the update for the HTC One X+ with the MSM8960 S4 chipset. The North American One S runs on the same chipset, specifically the T-Mobile version which is needed for AWS support.
This is probably why HTC first announced that they were thinking about NA One S users first, before anyone else.
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In case of hardware KitKat would run excellent on the One S no question.
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If you have an S4 version, yes.
ppm48 said:
I. Love this phone i've finally super cid and s-off and put on Max hd you would think I'd be happy but no I find my fingers itching to try another rom it's crazy why can't I just be happy and leave it alone helpppp lol
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It's human nature ... we're all affected to one degree or another. Live a simple life, and be grateful for our many blessings!
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I thought I would get some feedback from fellow One S users: I just saw how frickin' awesome Jelly Bean is going to be, and have come across an opportunity to trade my One S for a GNex (which has already begun receiving the JB update). Given how long it takes for HTC to roll out ANYTHING, should I make that jump? I know there are a few trade offs, namely an inferior camera on the GNex. But JB looks so sweet, and I am a HUGE fan of vanilla Android. What do others think?
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One S > GNex...
Don't let the software fool you
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One S > GNex...
Don't let the software fool you
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So true just wait one x already has ported jb matter of time before its ported by developers to one s
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One S > GNex...
Don't let the software fool you
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I know the One S has better specs, but who knows how long we will be waiting for JB. I guess my main gripe with the One S is how we're stuck with Sense. I tolerate it, but I vastly prefer vanilla Android and AOSP. I know some AOSP builds have made progress but still have problems with no real solutions in sight yet, like camera and connectivity issues.
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I was thinking about the same thing too but i'm just gonna keep the One S.
weeks from now we'll get it ported and our device will be SWEET!
Hopefully within 6 months HTC will give us an OTA update also.
Nexus has the better screen+NFC+JB but our One S is superior in design, power, camera, & sound.
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I was thinking about the same thing too but i'm just gonna keep the One S.
weeks from now we'll get it ported and our device will be SWEET!
Hopefully within 6 months HTC will give us an OTA update also.
Nexus has the better screen+NFC+JB but our One S is superior in design, power, camera, & sound.
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I hope it's just weeks. The One X port gives me hope that JB is on the way. 6 months just seems so long when it's already out now. And if it's a Sense update that HTC rolls out...ehh.
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Lol ics is still pretty new, and cm9 is stable... just saying. Enjoy it. JB isn't much different anyway. Nothing like GB to ICS
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I was thinking the same thing, and then I decided to wait until Nexus 7 is available in my country.
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I'm in the same kind of boat. but it seems the nexus has held its price very well! selling the one s in UK second hand, you would probably only see about £200-£240
Hopefully you are getting cash on top seeing as how a new GNex is only $350.
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I know the One S has better specs, but who knows how long we will be waiting for JB. I guess my main gripe with the One S is how we're stuck with Sense. I tolerate it, but I vastly prefer vanilla Android and AOSP. I know some AOSP builds have made progress but still have problems with no real solutions in sight yet, like camera and connectivity issues.
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I do not know which rom you have tried but I am on CM9 alpha 12 and most everything works including camera. Its my daily driver and with no over clock have scored 5300 on quadrant plus have almost 400 mb of ram.
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Hopefully you are getting cash on top seeing as how a new GNex is only $350.
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:] You got a One S?
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I do not know which rom you have tried but I am on CM9 alpha 12 and most everything works including camera. Its my daily driver and with no over clock have scored 5300 on quadrant plus have almost 400 mb of ram.
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Things are working to a degree but CM9 is still far from my daily driver standards. I check that thread all the time and keep seeing issues pop up, particularly with picture/video recorder quality, which is a deal breaker for me.
And I would be getting money on top for the GNex, if this guy ever gets back to me. I wouldn't even really need much back to even out what I spent since I talked the T-Mo reps down to $100 for my One S when I got it.
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HTC is not TOO bad when it comes to releasing software updates. It certainly is not the worst, *cough* Samsung. Once Google officially releases the source of Jellybean, HTC will begin updating Sense to 4.1. It's safe to say that we would not receive and update until at least 1-2 months after the release; possibly more, depending on HTC's developers. One thing I am skeptical about is waiting to T-Mobile to release their version of HTC Sense with T-Mobile apps and bloatware. If anyone is on stock T-Mobile waiting for an update, this is one thing to consider. I am sure this will not take long as all T-Mobile has to do is add its apps and bloat ****, then release it.
Regarding the difference between the GN and HOS handsets, our device is much better; at least, in my opinion. We have a MUCH better build quality (metal, sleek). We also have better specs, albeit, no sdcard slot. Just because a device gets and update first does not mean it is the best. The GN has it first because it is still the flagship stock Android device as it is a Nexus device. If our HOS was on stock ICS with no Sense, we would get the update at the same time as well, most likely. In sum, we just have to wait a bit longer
EDIT: benchmark scores do not mean ****.
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HTC is not TOO bad when it comes to releasing software updates. It certainly is not the worst, *cough* Samsung.
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Agreed
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One thing I am skeptical about is waiting to T-Mobile to release their version of HTC Sense with T-Mobile apps and bloatware.
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Since t-mo HOS is identical to its international counterpart, we will be able to install the official update almost as soon as it comes out. (and the devs get their hands on it :fingers-crossed
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We also have better specs, albeit, no sdcard slot.
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GNex doesn't have an sdcard slot.
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EDIT: benchmark scores do not mean ****.
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yes they do!
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:] You got a One S?
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Haha yes, since fwdkiller pulled a **** move and wasted my time I found a seller who wanted to trade a mint One S + a Benjamin for my Note. Screen feels tiny but I like how smooth it runs with the krait chip.
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Haha yes, since fwdkiller pulled a **** move and wasted my time I found a seller who wanted to trade a mint One S + a Benjamin for my Note. Screen feels tiny but I like how smooth it runs with the krait chip.
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Dude, you made out like a thief at an art gallery. You probably could get 420 for the phone [from my offers] and getting a hundred. You got more than most people would get for a note. Congratulations.
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I thought I would get some feedback from fellow One S users: I just saw how frickin' awesome Jelly Bean is going to be, and have come across an opportunity to trade my One S for a GNex (which has already begun receiving the JB update). Given how long it takes for HTC to roll out ANYTHING, should I make that jump? I know there are a few trade offs, namely an inferior camera on the GNex. But JB looks so sweet, and I am a HUGE fan of vanilla Android. What do others think?
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I hope that you haven't made this premature nd stupid move till now, and if you did than you sure be regretting it.
We already have a almost everthything working JB CM10 (there's ur vanilla jellybean experience) and also HTC has officially announced that One S will get JB update soon and have already started working on it.
We would definately get official JB within 2 months max and that as good as it gets.
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I hope that you haven't made this premature nd stupid move till now, and if you did than you sure be regretting it.
We already have a almost everthything working JB CM10 (there's ur vanilla jellybean experience) and also HTC has officially announced that One S will get JB update soon and have already started working on it.
We would definately get official JB within 2 months max and that as good as it gets.
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The choice was taken out of my hands:
Boss: "Hey what's this Android phone I hearing you guys debate about all the time?" (My boss is a bit of a technologically challeneged guy; he still uses Blackberry and had me set it up for him when he got it)
Me: (insert my explanation of Android, Jelly Bean, and the iOS v. Android argument here)
Boss: "Wow that sounds pretty awesome. What phone comes with that new Jelly Bean thing?"
Me: "It's going to start rolling out to the newer Android phones over the next few months, but the Samsung Galaxy Nexus has it now."
Boss: "Great! Order me one and set it up, would you? And grab one for yourself while you're at it."
(Tosses me his credit card)
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... is almost gone and still no JB update on the horizon. I doub't that there will be an JB Update this month
Anyone with me?
It's htc obviously there isn't going to be a jelly bean update they talk out their back side all the time never buying another HTC device.
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They actually never said October, that was just a rumour and supposedly only for the X, not the S.
They only came out the other day officially saying November for the one X and December for the one S.
http://www.techradar.com//news/phon...ean-release-date-when-will-you-get-it-1087344
Update: The latest reports suggest the One X will see Android 4.1 pop up in October, although HTC are yet to officially confirm anything.
Update:HTC has confirmed its One X and One S devices will be getting Android 4.1 in November and December respectively, and the update will land with an enhanced version of Sense – cunningly named Sense 4+ after its debut on the HTC One X+.
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But yeah I agree, it is annoying........
I am not expecting the update to hit my stock sim free one S in the UK till January or February.
That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
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That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
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You got any links to those posts?
It doesn't matter htc even if they give us a date they don't stick to it happens with most of their devices I really don't care if they go bankrupt they are terrible to customers
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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A lot of us have sim free devices, which means we don't have to rely on network providers, so in theory if HTC released the JB update for Europe, every sim free one s that was bought from Europe should have the JB update by the end of the week, likewise for USA etc. Network locked/branded phones have to wait.
Sim free device means it comes down to the CID number.
Although with the way things worked out for the last update, it sounds like you're better of with branded phones
Take 5-10 seconds to read this thread, I already posted that quote in this thread already......
Regarding as to if JB will make a difference or not, many people who have the GS 3 have said the difference in smoothness is pretty big coming from ICS and from my experience the GS 3 is smoother than the S, just not as nippy/speedy though.
Besides there is more to it than just project butter:
- notification tray UI update
- improvement in battery slightly
- improvements in sense such as themes for the SMS sense app, camera UI, battery history/graph
No doubt there will be other improvements, possibly improving signal/wifi performance even more.
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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Mines sim free not branded and should get it straight away also once devs get their hands on the software they can implement it into their roms so technically we are just waiting for HTC and they don't stick to their deadlines
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Couldn't agree more. I don't see how much better my phone can get, it does anything and everything I want it to. It lasts me more than all day, except if I play heavy games (Which is a given with any phone...)
If you want fast updates, and a lot of them go to a iphone.
Everyone is nagging on HTC, while not enjoying what they have.
Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but give HTC a break.
I mean, it is them but it is us too.
Several companies haven't even pushed ICS yet.
And are you kidding? Not many things changed, just an addition of Google Now and some other things. I would understand if they like promised like 5.0 Kandy Kane/Key Lime Pie/Krispy Kreme or whatever, but no.
The update is also confirmed to start rolling out in October-November.
HTC no longer announces dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that.
Also, look at other companies. Samsung, Huawei, Sony, Alcatel, etc. All companies are never sure when they are going to release it. I'm sure it's not easy to develop something for ever single device and customize everything to a liking. All phone companies lie.
Hope that helps!
I also think the main reason they could be late is because of rebasing it on 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1, to avoid another update in the future.
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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
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Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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This.
I am sure JB has been ready for quite a while now, well most certainly for the one X anyway.
Only reason they don't release it for the X is due to the above, another selling point for the X+.
Exact same happened with the GS 3 and the GS 3 LTE model in the UK, only in the last few days have GS 3 UK owners been getting the JB update despite the LTE model being out for a month or a few weeks iirc. Only difference between them is one has an extra GB of RAM and is LTE supported.
I am in no rush at all really, however, I would like to get the update before the end of the year though especially since I can't see us getting 4.2.....
Here is just a glimpse preview of what JB and the new sense will bring, it is for the X though and some stuff isn't right i.e. we do have the notifications new features, which shows more detail.
http://www.neowin.net/news/htc-sense-4-review-how-it-should-have-been-from-the-start
Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
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The one X will.
I just have a funny feeling the s won't, due to it not being popular at all, HTC have a whole bunch of new android phones out and will be releasing even more in the next 1-2 months meaning less time and money to spend on older devices. Plus we have only had like 2 updates since the phone released, where as the X has had around 4-5.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and really hope I am.
Although if the XL gets the update (and am pretty sure it will), then there is absolutely no reason why they can't provide the update to the S as well.....
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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
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*facepalm*
That's for the European version, not the USA version.
I just got this phone recently and I wondered if we will ever have a good dev team for this phone. The glory days of this phone is rather short lived as HTC announced the One but I really love this phone because of the screen and if devs all jumped to the One I will be quite sad. That said, do you guys think we will have a good dev team? I know this phone is not really released into other parts of the world yet and people should start browsing more on this forum when that happens.
Why do you think that its days are gonna end fast? M7, as i know do not have microSD slot. Its like an MP3 pleers story - when everybody stoped making them with external butteries. The iRiver t60 is the last one iknow with buttery - and now it sells for $200.
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I just got this phone recently and I wondered if we will ever have a good dev team for this phone. The glory days of this phone is rather short lived as HTC announced the One but I really love this phone because of the screen and if devs all jumped to the One I will be quite sad. That said, do you guys think we will have a good dev team? I know this phone is not really released into other parts of the world yet and people should start browsing more on this forum when that happens.
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This device doesn't seem to be very popular, maybe you can still sell it while its retaining value and move on to the htc one when it releases.
this device did not launch in major gsm markets (most of europe, north america), and in fact despite being a better device (imo) because of the sdcard many gsm users bought the droid dna specifically because of better dev support from verizon devs at least
and even though the devices are similar, without one in hand most devs (myself included) wont port dna work to it since its too annoying
To be honest, this device will be my 2nd device once the HTC One is out BUT ONLY if there is a possibility to S-Off the HTC One. Without it, I don't see the point of having almost twice the same device.
f.
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Just be glad that we have atleast one dev "mdeejay" porting his ROM for x920d ...
There should be official CyanogenMod support for this guy right? And, how hard is it to port a ROM to this device? I might want to learn to port some ROMs from the DNA to this one.
I don't think there will be any CM support now that HTC One has been announced.. That device seems more promising with less variants to dev for..
As for developing yourself, that's how every dev started need patience, tech knowledge and some hard work plus time!
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I dont understand - in what universe One is way better then Butterfly? As i know it has 10-20% faster CPU and NO microSD slot. LTE, NFC, full banf 3G support - is a questions. So why does everybody speaks about it? Aluminum case?
upd It have only 1 Gb RAM... Why is it so expectable???
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I dont understand - in what universe One is way better then Butterfly? As i know it has 10-20% faster CPU and NO microSD slot. LTE, NFC, full banf 3G support - is a questions. So why does everybody speaks about it? Aluminum case?
upd It have only 1 Gb RAM... Why is it so expectable???
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The things I like about the One is the metal body, the stereo speakers and the bigger battery. The screen of the Butterfly can't be beat, I went back to using the One X and the screen is feels so small! The 5 inch Full HD screen on this phone is just amazing!!!
since Droid DNA share the similar stuffs with us, why not we just hope/ask nicely to the devs to support us x920d/e?
This is exactly the reason why I went with DNA
I had to import it as I live in India.
DNA n butterfly share similar characteristics, so technically any Rom for DNA should be working for butterfly as well and vice versa , it just needs a dev who can port it. Classic example being virtuosDNA which is based on butterfly firmware but DNA gsm users can also use it without any issues.
Also verizon American devs don't port as it has some risks attached to it.
As far as I understand gsm DNA users are the lucky ones as they get best of both worlds
DNA also is S-off
Your best hope is CM which is in advanced stage for DNA as radio progress has been made today
As far as HTC one is concerned Iam sure butterfly and DNA both will receive sense5 in a few months from now.
AOSP dev on one will be difficult as it has new cpu and different camera module. Iam sure HTC won't release camera specific drivers to public. Remember HTC evo 3d ....
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The J Butterfly has root and a custom rom that's accessable thanks to SharpISO3. It's an excellent start for such a minority device IMO and I'm sure things will get better over time.
Still hope devs from Droid DNA to build all variants together.
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Still hope devs from Droid DNA to build all variants together.
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It'd be nice, but i doubt it. Probably be faster to learn how to develop. Or, send money or devices their way
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I really hope HTC butterfly have more Dev.Because Xperia Z is coming soon and their thread is more active and finally my device choice will depends on Dev support.
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It'd be nice, but i doubt it. Probably be faster to learn how to develop. Or, send money or devices their way
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Learn how to develop? Lol... Only if I know how to code.
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Learn how to develop? Lol... Only if I know how to code.
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I don't know how to code either. Admittedly, that's a big stumbling block depending on the mod involved. I learned a lot, but have a long way to go with my rom.
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I dont understand - in what universe One is way better then Butterfly? As i know it has 10-20% faster CPU and NO microSD slot. LTE, NFC, full banf 3G support - is a questions. So why does everybody speaks about it? Aluminum case?
upd It have only 1 Gb RAM... Why is it so expectable???
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not just the aluminium case, the promotion they give to htc one, its already got firing every where, every mobile operators will carry this device, many mobile stores and sites are already started pre order.
Now, if butterfly was given that importance, then this forum would have been full with devs and supporters, unfortunately htc itself depromoted butterfly for what so ever reasons, they only know. price is also a damp factor.
I waited more than a month to get hold this beauty butterfly.
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I really hope HTC butterfly have more Dev.Because Xperia Z is coming soon and their thread is more active and finally my device choice will depends on Dev support.
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the over priced and less availability. still many parts of the world haven't heard about this phone, htc already diverted to ONE, its doubtful if they will give preference to this one. So xperia is a good choice from your point of view, otherwise butterfly is unbeatable.
Hmm... Do you guys think that the CyanogenMod team will bring CM to this device?
HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates. Rip the one s. Personally I think its shocking that a one year old phone is left out in the cold. And I certainly won't be buying a HFC phone again.
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Htc are ****ing stupid!!! The galaxy s2 is still getting updates!! I predict they will go bankrupt within the next year. If they do no one will miss them they need to get their **** together.
Given the lack of support since day 1 I am not really surprised. Failing MAO coating, helicoptering, battery drain.... And now only 6 months of software support. And still they wonder why customers are leaving?
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HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates.
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Source? A few weeks ago they said something different.
Anyway. After the helicoptering disaster I already knew that my next smartphone would not be made by HTC.
There is a feature story on Engadget "We can confirm that the HTC One S will not receive further Android OS updates and will remain on the current version of Android and HTC Sense. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed the HTC One S to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences." This was a press statement released by HTC.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/htc-confirms-one-s-will-no-longer-receive-android-updates/
Here u go guys
Rip one s
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I doesn't stop to function.
I just got this phone a little over a week ago and it's already killed off like it didn't exist. I was really rooting for HTC but this is just downright f***ed up. Here, I thought HTC learned a lesson and was actually going to change their ways but i guess not
Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
jersey_609 said:
Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
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I agree. I mean when a two year old Samsung Galaxy S II has a newer version of a one year old HTC One S, it really shows you how much they care about their customers and also, they clearly said earlier in the year that they would update the One S, One X, X+, and Butterfly to 4.2.
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but the Jelly Bean update sucks as hell
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
Well we all saw this coming, my next phone won't be a HTC for sure, even tho I've been a HTC fanboy since the nexus one.
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
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Why didn't you take a Sony then?
I will think twice when I buy my next phone.. dammit, HTC what are you doing!
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My nexus one was the reason I loved HTC's build quality: that phone is still alive after being run over by a car!
It sure is crappy to hear HTC lie about bringing updates, but it still is only one source, while the news of sense 5 coming to the HOS was reiterated quite a few times...
I just hope it's a lie 'cause it's real bad marketing for HTC!!
We started with 4.0 and are now left with 4.1, will the HTC One ever get 4.3?
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1 year support yeah! die htc die!
I can imagine this is happening because the HTC One Mini is being released soon and will be replacing the One S as a mid range phone.
I've had a few HTC phones and been quite happy with them, but this is unacceptable, I will not be supporting HTC anymore. I feel bad I recommended the HTC One to so many people, going to have to tell anyone else who asks to go for the GS4 or Nexus 4 I guess.
I only use custom roms so this isn't really as big of a deal for me as I will probably always be able to get something decent ported, but the principal of them doing this really posses me off. If I didn't want to root my phone I would be kissed off at the lack of support.
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Same thoughts here guys. The One S was superior or equal to the One X and isn't supported anymore after one year. And its updates where delayed from the beginning...
The only reason to introduce plain Android for the One is to cut its sense lifecycle short to at least one year. They think that any fanboy out there will reinvestigate into the latest HTC phone every year and then sell it for the latest model and if you want to keep it longer, you could switch to it's Google play edition. No need to update sense anymore. Let's go for the next model. Imho this thinking made some leading people leave HTC the last months.
As I never was a real lover of sense I started using it with this phone and I have to admit, at least I even started liking it. It turned out to be pretty practical in one way or another.
So I'll keep it for a few more months, just to see what Moto or Sony will come up with in the near future. Samsung never was and is an alternative due to it's el cheapo design. Also that S4 outdoor variant looks pretty good in my eyes.
R.I.P. my beloved One S and f**k you HTC.
Bad news guys
HTC has announced that its 2012 flagships, the One X and One X+, won’t be receiving any updates past Android 4.2.2.
htc one x 1024x576 HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2
The decision has been met with considerable criticism on Twitter, and rightly so, especially in the case of the One X+, which has been left in the lurch only 14 months after launch. What makes matters worse is that neither device will be getting Android 4.3 either, a version of the OS that came well before either phone reached the usual 18-month support cycle extended to flagship devices. It’s a scenario reminiscent of what happened with the HTC Sensation, a flagship smartphone for which support was dropped after just one major update.
HTC issued the following statement:
We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences.
The decision to not update the One X series is also disappointing when one considers how HTC has been pretty great at updating its latest flagship, the HTC One, to newer versions of Android, with the KitKat update hitting unlocked models in the U.S. within a month after Google released the update for Nexus devices. Hopefully, it’s the same level of support HTC will extend to future devices as well, though even it does, One X and One X+ owners likely won’t be putting their faith in the company when they’re due for a smartphone upgrade in a few months.
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Was this entire post all your own original writing? It looks like it came from a news site, if it did you should probably quote the source.
I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised about this news though. It's been a pretty well established fact that 4.2.2 was going to be the last official update this device would receive. And while I don't agree with HTC's update policy and schedule it does make total sense considering this device is now 20 months old. I probably won't buy another HTC device purely because of their inability to update their devices in a timely fashion (the 4.2.2 update came something like ten months after it was released by Android).
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To be honest I ain't that worried about the device being at the end if life.... Cause the sprint evo 4g lte is getting 4.3 sense 5 and we can port from that... But ontop of that in the ElementalX thread Zarboz said he's gonna take care of us with a 4.3, and 4.4 sense kernel.
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I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
They gave some cockamamie reason why the Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
On the other hand, a much newer yet weaker device was receiving further updates.
A year later, that device was no longer receiving updates.
I am seeing a trend.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!
Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Wow, you guys can really be delusional at times. I mean... seriously.
That was uncalled for.
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TeK9samurai said:
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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I have to agree. If I wanted a good experience without needing updates I would get a sony phone. My next phone will probably be a samsung since they're so popular and have good dev support.
Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
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Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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Yeah, but the post I responded to by musician_it didn't tell you anything you didn't already know, did it (or anybody else here for that matter)?
Just my opinion, the Nexus devices have been pretty underwhelming (hardware-wise) for several iterations now. HTC simply has the best hardware around, and has for years. Its simply a shame they can't provide better long-term support on the software side.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/cffjjiq
"actively exploring" =/= won't do
Might not happen given their track record, but it's nice to think about on this Monday night.
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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Its different hardware, so therefore different software. That is all he is saying. Lots of people get confused that the "international" One X (Tegra3) has so-and-so update, so why don't we (Snapdragon One X/XL), thinking its the same phone, when its not.
Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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grt idea.... someone with good skills should do it......