First Boot - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can I boot directly into the bootloader right out of the box and do an unlock? Just curious if anyone has done this. Seems like booting up, taking the update, logging into google, etc, and doing the unlock later are all a waste of time if the unlock does a factory reset.

Yes that's fine.
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Chromium_ said:
Yes that's fine.
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Can you add that to your guide? That would be awesome to know for others, that I don't need to waste time on the first boot.

Hilbe said:
Can you add that to your guide? That would be awesome to know for others, that I don't need to waste time on the first boot.
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Sure, will do.
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Can TWRP/CWM take the first update and process it? Curious if I should unlock bootloader, install recovery, and take the update...or just unlock bootloader and take the update.

You'll need the stock recovery for the OTA update.

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[q] upgrade after root

I have a rooted sony ericsson live with walkman with Gingerbread, and the bootloader is unlocked.
Sony is now offering ICS update on this device. Should i go on with it?
Will my phone be upgraded?
k2mach said:
i have a rooted sony ericsson live with walkman with gingerbread, and the bootloader is unlocked.
Sony is now offering ics update on this device. Should i go on with it?
Will my phone be upgraded?
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no probs go with it
dineshlives said:
no probs go with it
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are you sure man?? it wont brick right? i can upgrade using the software companion like normal?
k2mach said:
are you sure man?? it wont brick right? i can upgrade using the software companion like normal?
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i wouldn't. just wait for a developer to post a rooted version of the update and flash it in recovery. ive heard root + ota updates are kinda a hit or miss as to whether it will toast you or not
I'm having trouble too help?
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Lock your bootloader first. Updates check that.
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PhxkinMassacre said:
i wouldn't. just wait for a developer to post a rooted version of the update and flash it in recovery. ive heard root + ota updates are kinda a hit or miss as to whether it will toast you or not
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ok i will see to it
Allanitomwesh said:
Lock your bootloader first. Updates check that.
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locking my bootloader would do the trick? please confirm if you are sure!
PhxkinMassacre said:
i wouldn't. just wait for a developer to post a rooted version of the update and flash it in recovery. ive heard root + ota updates are kinda a hit or miss as to whether it will toast you or not
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i found this, can you please check and tell that it works?
http://naw32fsystem.blogspot.in/2012/06/how-to-upgrade-live-with-walkman-to-ics.html
k2mach said:
locking my bootloader would do the trick? please confirm if you are sure!
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Yeah locking the bootloader would work, you need to return 100% to stock though, so factory software it was shipped with, I don't know whether you still have that or if you can grab it from the official sony site, there is probably a copy of it in the forums
matt4321 said:
Yeah locking the bootloader would work, you need to return 100% to stock though, so factory software it was shipped with, I don't know whether you still have that or if you can grab it from the official sony site, there is probably a copy of it in the forums
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Lock the bootloader,unroot to stock(full reset) and you're good to update. Then you can reroot after.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Lock the bootloader,unroot to stock(full reset) and you're good to update. Then you can reroot after.
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relocking boot loader seems to me to be a lot of work! Is there nay other way?
http://naw32fsystem.blogspot.in/2012...an-to-ics.html will this help if i download this file nad flash using flashtool?
PhxkinMassacre said:
just wait for a developer to post a rooted version of the update and flash it in recovery.
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k2mach said:
relocking boot loader seems to me to be a lot of work! Is there nay other way?
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Running PC Companion with an unlocked bootloader is lethal. You could wait it out like PhxkinMassacre said,or skip the reverting to stock,but the bootloader is a must lock.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Running PC Companion with an unlocked bootloader is lethal. You could wait it out like PhxkinMassacre said,or skip the reverting to stock,but the bootloader is a must lock.
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HEY PEOPLE! will anyone tell me if the file here is that rooted verision you want me to wait for??
http://naw32fsystem.blogspot.in/2012/06/how-to-upgrade-live-with-walkman-to-ics.html
Yeah you can run that.
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Little clarification and help please

Hi guys! I am switching from a GSIII to this on Tuesday and I know a bit about rooting but I wanted to know what is the main differences between being rooted and having a unlocked bootloader?
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Optimizer said:
Hi guys! I am switching from a GSIII to this on Tuesday and I know a bit about rooting but I wanted to know what is the main differences between being rooted and having a unlocked bootloader?
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Being rooted allows you to unlock the bootloader which allows all the magic that happens here. If you are getting a hox now make sure it does not come with 4.0.4 installed as there is no root for that yet.
I don't think you have to be rooted to flash a recovery. You just have to unlock your bootloader and flash a recovery via adb command.
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Nabeel Kiani said:
I don't think you have to be rooted to flash a recovery. You just have to unlock your bootloader and flash a recovery via adb command.
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On AT&T you need to be rooted to unlock the bootloader, as the bootloader unlock is not officially available. But on Rogers, you can unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery, AFAIK.
In short, root just gives superuser privileges. So you have access to system files, can apply mods and apps that require root (but not flashed in recovery) etc.
Bootloader unlock is required if you want to flash custom ROMs, radios, kernels, custom recovery, etc.
So I am on ATT and I got the one x shipped to me and it will be here tomorrow so there will be no rooting for me until someone finds an exploit I am thinking
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Optimizer said:
So I am on ATT and I got the one x shipped to me and it will be here tomorrow so there will be no rooting for me until someone finds an exploit I am thinking
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I'm afraid so.
gunnyman said:
I'm afraid so.
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Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
Optimizer said:
Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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That's a negative grasshopper.
gunnyman said:
That's a negative grasshopper.
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Well, I am willing to donate to whoever finds one!
Optimizer said:
Well, I am willing to donate to whoever finds one!
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You should politely ask Gunny to make a bounty thread. He absolutely loves them.
Smh
Optimizer said:
Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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You can reduce the majority of the bloat in an unrooted stock phone running an ICS firmware by "disabling" the unneeded bloatware system apps by going into the stock app manager, then selecting to view all apps, then pressing on each system bloat app you don't need, and hitting "disable" in the app info dialog that opens up. Disabling the system apps makes them invisible to the system and the app drawer. Thus, they can't be run by you or the system until you enable them again. Thus, they don't bog down your phone and trash up your app drawer.
This works for the majority of the bloat that comes with AT&T. I did this while I was waiting for the famous 1.85 root method. It made my wait considerably more bearable!
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Any reason to unlock the bootloader?

If I'm not big on flashing roms at the moment, is there any good reason to unlock the bootloader? The only benefit I've read so far is that booting up is a bit faster.
Also, seeing as how rooting and unrooting is pretty easy without the use of odin/flashing, is there a way to re-lock the bootloader without odin (in case an OTA update comes along the way)?
Any OTAs that come along are likely to break the insecure bootloader.
If you ever intend to use custom ROMs I would suggest not accepting any OTAs regardless.
Download ez unlock from the market to lock and re-lock.
dunderball said:
If I'm not big on flashing roms at the moment, is there any good reason to unlock the bootloader? The only benefit I've read so far is that booting up is a bit faster.
Also, seeing as how rooting and unrooting is pretty easy without the use of odin/flashing, is there a way to re-lock the bootloader without odin (in case an OTA update comes along the way)?
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To answer your question, there is no reason unless you want to flash a ROM with a custom kernel (eg CM or AOKP).
You can backup your bootloader and restore using terminal / dd, and I think some of 'one click' tools also are doing this now sounds like.
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So bootloader needs to be unlock more for kernel, right?
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From here on out, i would think that 90% of kernel and rom development will be aimed towards unlocked bootloaders.
download app from market to unlock. One click. Easy!
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djisia87 said:
download app from market to unlock. One click. Easy!
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It even says "that was easy" lol
that was easy
If for no other reason but to tell Verizon FU Icehole's.
Power to the People.:highfive:
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If for no other reason but to tell Verizon FU Icehole's.
Power to the People.:highfive:
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This.
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ExodusC said:
Any OTAs that come along are likely to break the insecure bootloader.
If you ever intend to use custom ROMs I would suggest not accepting any OTAs regardless.
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Wouldn't a person be able to Odin the stock .tar that we have now to overwrite any **** Verizon tries to push on us?
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pyrostic said:
Wouldn't a person be able to Odin the stock .tar that we have now to overwrite any **** Verizon tries to push on us?
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Where is this .tar located?
You have to unlock the bootloader to change boot images... right?

Stock with root now what?

so I am still on the stock rom I never flashed a new rom be4 on this s5
I don't mind the stock rom but have some questions.
I am being prompted for 2 updates!
1 is the software update
2 is the security policy update
what happens if I accept them? will I loose root?
& what should i do and if so could I remove the nag?
jackrabbit72380 said:
so I am still on the stock rom I never flashed a new rom be4 on this s5
I don't mind the stock rom but have some questions.
I am being prompted for 2 updates!
1 is the software update
2 is the security policy update
what happens if I accept them? will I loose root?
& what should i do and if so could I remove the nag?
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If you accept the updates and if it goes through, yes, you would lose the root.
Are you sure you are completely rooted? Because you shouldn't be receiving those update notifications if you are.
Robbie Doo said:
If you accept the updates and if it goes through, yes, you would lose the root.
Are you sure you are completely rooted? Because you shouldn't be receiving those update notifications if you are.
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i have been receving the update noteifications and security policy noteifications sence i bought the phone and root checker basic says congrats this device has root accsess!
I don't want these noteifications in my drop down i would love to update with out looseing any abbilitys or root accsess.
I think if u update you won't lose root access.
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5zan said:
I think if u update you won't lose root access.
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well its nice to think so but i would love confirmation before i go messing up my phone!
I would think the security policy update would definitely break root!
no offence but judging buy your join date and post count your knowledge on this subject is not so rep able!:laugh:
jackrabbit72380 said:
well its nice to think so but i would love confirmation before i go messing up my phone!
I would think the security policy update would definitely break root!
no offence but judging buy your join date and post count your knowledge on this subject is not so rep able!:laugh:
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Yes! Sorry for that. I did some research & if you update you will lose root provided you are using the stock recovery & bootloader. If u are using a different one,ur phone might not boot after updating. If you are using a stock bootloader I suggest u update,lose root & root again
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jackrabbit72380 said:
well its nice to think so but i would love confirmation before i go messing up my phone!
I would think the security policy update would definitely break root!
no offence but judging buy your join date and post count your knowledge on this subject is not so rep able!:laugh:
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Yes, you will lose root for sure because that's what happened to my friend. However, after update I re-rooted for him. I know it's tedious but that's what you have to go through.
Or u can download the ota file in zip format & flash using recovery. It'll work as long as you are using stock ROM with no modifications. & most likely you won't lose root
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5zan said:
Or u can download the ota file in zip format & flash using recovery. It'll work as long as you are using stock ROM with no modifications. & most likely you won't lose root
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im using stock rom with twrp v2700 recovery
can i just accept the update and re root through twrp?
or is my phone not going to boot when i accept the update?
jackrabbit72380 said:
im using stock rom with twrp v2700 recovery
can i just accept the update and re root through twrp?
or is my phone not going to boot when i accept the update?
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I don't think so. After update the phone might not boot & keep going into recovery. I suggest u flash stock recovery & then update & fish twrp again. Or you could try your luck and update & let's see what happens.
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5zan said:
I don't think so. After update the phone might not boot & keep going into recovery. I suggest u flash stock recovery & then update & fish twrp again. Or you could try your luck and update & let's see what happens.
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um where do i download stock recovery?
jackrabbit72380 said:
um where do i download stock recovery?
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I'm afraid I do not know. Just search here or in Google and u'll find out how.
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5zan said:
I'm afraid I do not know. Just search here or in Google and u'll find out how.
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That's basically the worst answer to any question ever asked!
I expect google to replace human interaction any day now!
Can anyone point me to stock recovery or tell me if it's safe to update with out bricking my device?
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um where do i download stock recovery?
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I believe this is the latest stock file. It will un-root your phone and put it in stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787760

Please Help. System software not authorized by Verizon...

SOLVED.
Don't know how to delete post.
Captain_Ron_ said:
SOLVED.
Don't know how to delete post.
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Should of just left the way you handled it here, I'd suggest editing your post
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Same issue
How did you solve it? I have it now and can't boot into recovery mode.
jg5683 said:
How did you solve it? I have it now and can't boot into recovery mode.
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Try flashing your stock firmware again via Odin. If you had 4.3 with the unlockable bootloader then flash that, if you had anything newer than that then you'll have to flash exactly what you had or newer because once you took the 4.3 with the bootloader that can't be unlocked then that means you will NEVER EVER be able to go back to an older version, you can ONLY use exactly what you had or newer.
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