So here I am, with a hard time to decide if I should buy the Nexus 5, or wait for next-gen phones. What do you think, how much futureproof is the Nexus 5? In terms of the CPU architecture (Snapdragon 800 is still an ARMv7, next-gen CPUs are likely going to sport the ARMv8), 2gigs of RAM (will it be enough in a year or so?), the battery capacity, etc.
What do you think?
Then next year you'll be asking is the next generation future proof because ARMv9 is around the corner etc etc. Just bite the bullet and get something you want!
Nothing is future proof, there is only the now when dealing with electronics.
Nothing is future proof.
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Nothing is future proof.
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Death and taxes.
let's put it this way
i have a VERIZON galaxy nexus and i'm still able to get 4.4 KitKat on it (unofficially of course).
The Galaxy Nexus was the first phone to have a 720p display and ICS on it.
'Future proofing' is the main reason why I buy into the Nexus program.
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Death and taxes.
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what about those who die before they start working?
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what about those who die before they start working?
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Obviously had no future to prove.
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So here I am, with a hard time to decide if I should buy the Nexus 5, or wait for next-gen phones. What do you think, how much futureproof is the Nexus 5? In terms of the CPU architecture (Snapdragon 800 is still an ARMv7, next-gen CPUs are likely going to sport the ARMv8), 2gigs of RAM (will it be enough in a year or so?), the battery capacity, etc.
What do you think?
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My Google Nexus 4 is very much futureproof. Even more HW friendlier Android is coming out, it's lag free, super smooth, versatile and without major issues - yet I want the Nexus 5. It just how it goes these days...
Processors have had a big leap forward last year. Meanwhile Android just gets more efficient and less resource hungry. The chipset in N5 will cover at least a year or two and 2 gig Ram is pretty close to overkill no?
In my opinion, the biggest seller next will not be power but more how processors will use less voltage. We are well on the way (Haswell etc)
Battery technology goes slow and takes time. I think OS developers will work more on inventing solutions to save battery within the software itself. Also producers of displays for phones will hopefully develop more battery greedy screens if tech pushes forward.
Future is coming..
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It's about as future proof as a red blood cell.
How can any technology be future proof?
Like almost every tech gadget it's obsolete almost as soon as you've unboxed it as there will always be something newer and better so there's no point waiting for that as it's an endless circle.
The hardware is good, the specs are good and the OS will get updated for the foreseeable future so there's a good life ahead of it.
Everything about the phone looks awesome, but just remember, no matter what you choose to buy or when, there will always be a better and newer phone out within at least 3 months. But, even if something new does come out soon after the Nexus 5, everything that made you love the Nexus 5 is still there. For example, the Snapdragon 800 will always be very fast, even if a newer Snapdragon SOC comes out, it doesn't make the 800 any slower
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So here I am, with a hard time to decide if I should buy the Nexus 5, or wait for next-gen phones. What do you think, how much futureproof is the Nexus 5? In terms of the CPU architecture (Snapdragon 800 is still an ARMv7, next-gen CPUs are likely going to sport the ARMv8), 2gigs of RAM (will it be enough in a year or so?), the battery capacity, etc.
What do you think?
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Google is trying to optimize android to work with less ram which is why they said it should work better on older devices so ram shouldn't be an issue for a while. (Hopefully). I bought the nexus 5 because its the best phone I'll ever get for the price. I've never had high end phone. The best phone I had was a 2011 xperia play which was nice and cool idea but outdated so I'm really excited to get this and don't really care about what's new that will be better since it'll be too expensive lol. Just my pov
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Like almost every tech gadget it's obsolete almost as soon as you've unboxed it as there will always be something newer and better so there's no point waiting for that as it's an endless circle.
The hardware is good, the specs are good and the OS will get updated for the foreseeable future so there's a good life ahead of it.
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That is well said. There is ALWAYS something better just around the corner.
I completely understand the OP's mindset, which basically comes down to wanting to avoid buyer's remorse. Nobody likes getting the cool new toy/gadget/vehicle only to find out some super-duper feature that everyone loves comes out shortly after. It is even harder to judge when it comes to gadgets like phones because of how fast the technology is progressing.
All I can say is that you will not find a better price/performance value than the Nexus 5 right now. The main hardware is pretty cutting edge, it is guaranteed to get fast OS updates for at least 18 months, and hits most of the features that I personally want. That was enough to entice me to upgrade to the Nexus 5 from my Galaxy Nexus, which in turn was the phone that at the time enticed me to finally give up my dumbphone.
Still, every person has different preferences. If you know of certain features you think you just can't live without that the N5 doesn't have, or have a pretty good phone already and want to wait it out a little longer, then go ahead. Just don't wait forever, because the "perfect phone" doesn't exist. There will always be some sort of tradeoff with any decision you make.
When it comes to smart phones, theres no such thing as future proof. There will aways be a better, faster one in a few weeks after you buy the "best" smartphone. Always.
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If you buy a gadget tomorrow you will find a new with more power,etc... don´t worry about that and enjoy your Nexus 5
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So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
There is always something better around the corner...
But the main advantage to getting a stock Google Phone is that you will get OS updates much faster then everyone else with android skinned devices.
If you like android this is an excellent buy.
Yeah, I know that is a huge advantage to the Nexus line, but I also know that if there is a great phone out there, people will root it and develop for it.
Like I said, I don't "need" a new phone, and the only thing making me think twice is the lack of SD card for music and movie space. (I travel a lot so the less electronics I have to pack the better.) I'm just curious if it would be better for me to wait to buy one in a few months or take the plunge Thursday.
The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.
Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
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Wait till CES in January (6-9), there will be tons of new Android devices announced.
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Who truly needs a dual core cellphone though, honestly most people dont even need a dual core PC
To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.
My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
basically it comes down to this.
If your a t-mobile customer and are not going to leave anytime soon, then the Nexus S is the best phone for you.
If you don't mind leaving t-mobile, then wait because in 4-6 months verizon and sprint will probably both get dual core phones but it'll probably be 12 months for T-Mobile to get off their ass and get one. outside of the galaxy s 2, but thats touchwiz.
Also if you just want a stock android phone, then go for it as well because there won't be another one for a while.
Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.
More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work.
Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
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Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.
More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work.
Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
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no idea how the playstation phone carrier wise is going to work, hopefully it will be all carriers, but who knows.
Unfortountly it's safe to say that they will not be adding in an SD slot to the Nexus S. Between tons of apps to stream music and video, and the 13GB of storage that acts like an SD, it should be enough.
You could always buy the Nexus S then return it before the 30 days if they announce promising phones during CES. I'll be working the registration desk at CES so hopefully I have time to look around to play around with all the new phones and gagdets.
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So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
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Within the next 3-4 months? Hmm.
And also, better? They may be competitors, depending on how you look at it.
There's the LG Star, Motorola Olympus, PlayStation Phone, Evo Shift, and possible Galaxy S 2. Not all of these are confirmed for next '3-4 months' and even then, they might not even be "better".
Sure, the LG Star packs a Tegra 2. Which, in all honesty, has a GPU which barely tops the Hummingbird. Tegra 2 is nothing to be too excited about. If you want a dual core, you want the dual core Snapdragon or the Orion. The Orion will most likely be the only one paired with a gorgeous Super Amoled which is unmatched but this is also preference. Even then, these may not be out for over 4 months.
Also you need to consider software. Generally, nothing runs faster than AOSP. Nor is as open nor fast to get updated. The Nexus One STILL holds its ground merely because it has Froyo when Galaxy S phones still don't. It may not be as powerful as fast, and it may be sluggish, but it's still "ahead" in a sense. This will probably be the case with the Nexus S and Honeycomb, with the exception that this thing has a friggin Hummingbird, which is theoretically capable of running Quake 3 Arena at 90fps with the 56 fps limit unlocked.
Don't get me wrong though, the Tegra 2 isn't BAD. But it isn't worth jumping the gun over a Hummingbird when the Snapdragon and Orion are around the corner to the Tegra 2. Tegra 2 and Hummingbird is like an 'either, or'. Don't let the Tegra 2 be your deciding factor. It's all about the carrier, the way the phone feels to you, and just personal preference in general. If you think the LG Star is hot, then that's what you should get. If you think the Nexus S is hot, then that's what you should get. They will probably perform about equal.
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The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.
Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
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Couldn't have said it better.
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Benchmarks shmenchmarks. My Nexus One stock outbenchmarks my Vibrant stock 2.2 in both Quadrant and Linpack but the Vibrant is way faster and way smoother. WAYYYY.
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To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.
My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
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The thing about the PlayStation Phone is that well, it's clunky and huge, and potentially ugly.
I'll tell everyone a secret android is all about software so even if someone puts out a quadcore phone that still won't let it get the newest updates any faster. After 2 years of owning stock android phones I have read thousands of posts of people complaining about why their super phone has yet to get the latest update. Even nexus users had a thread that was 5000 posts of them yelling at Google because 2.2 was a month late.
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The only problem is that Android isn't built and optimized (yet) for more than one core. The dual core isn't going to be making a huge impact probably for another six months or more. If you are looking for a phone now, it sounds like the Nexus S is it.
I think this thread convinced me finally to get the NS
Are you guys sure you want a dual core phone? Because, you know, there are already rumors of a quad core phone coming out in 2012 or whatever. Might as well wait for it.
I'm on TMobile... I won't be waiting around. I'm grateful this phone is releasing because after that you got the MT4G's childish face looking you in the eye. And who knows how soon TMO will drop us another gem that competes w/ the NS.
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42fps nenamark + 67 fps neocore @ lg star... 1-8fps more for tegra in comparsion to hummingbird is way less then i thought and not worth an upgrade (yet) .... the difference between snapdragon and hunmingbird is much bigger regarding the gpu
Edit: getting 47.1fps on my sgs in nenamark... 59fps at neocore(seems to be limited to 59...) sooo where's the point in tegra2 anyway?
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Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.
After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.
Thanks for the discussion points guys.
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Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.
After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.
Thanks for the discussion points guys.
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Most stores have 30 day return policies generally. They may charge restocking fees. Look it up
Hi, here's my story:
I'm from Mexico, and I've been waiting a long time to afford for my next Smartphone (I'm an actual iPhone 3GS user). I have decided that my next buy will be an Android-phone, I love how it looks and feels vanilla android (that's why i want the Nexus S).
So, my question is: is the Nexus S worth it now (I'm paying $580+ USD for it)? Or should i stick with my iPhone 3GS (which is not a bad phone at all) for now and wait for a dual-core android phone (most of them will be announce/release in the next couple of months)?
Thanks in advance, hope your comments help me decide.
If you are not going to root and tinker with the phone then I wouldn't bother waiting for dual core phones (if you want vanilla Android and timely updates to the latest software). They will all be released (at least the ones coming out in the next 6 months) with Froyo 2.2 and will come with some sort of service provider bloat.
If you are going to root and will install custom ROMs then you could wait for dual core, but make sure the phone you get will not have a hard locked boot loader like some of the motorola phones.
Also, dual core phones most likely won't be be optimized for Android until Honeycomb comes out, although motorola did claim they are trying to tweak 2.2 a little for dual cores.
I have no intention of getting rid of my NS for a dual core in the near future. I absolutely love the NS and will probably not upgrade until the end of next year when the next Nexus comes out that should have a dual core processor, hopefully the Orion or next gen dual core Qualcom processors.
There are many threads about this sort of topic around already.
EDIT: The screen is amazing on the NS, it would be hard for me to consider a phone with a non-SAMLOED screen until something comparable comes out. Some of the newer phones coming out seem to have improved screens, like the Motorola Bionic etc, but only time will tell if they live up to the SAMOLED or SAMOLED Plus.
either way, you can still buy the SNS
then sell it when the Dual Core comes out
Yeah, I've seen the display on the Galaxy S and is mind blowing. That's another reason for me to get the Nexus S, is just that I'm afraid of buying it and become "obsolete" in a couple of months.
I'm thinking to wait for the next Galaxy S, but also I don't want to be abandoned by Samsung without next OS updates.
That's a big dilemma for me...
wilee1928 said:
Yeah, I've seen the display on the Galaxy S and is mind blowing. That's another reason for me to get the Nexus S, is just that I'm afraid of buying it and become "obsolete" in a couple of months.
I'm thinking to wait for the next Galaxy S, but also I don't want to be abandoned by Samsung without next OS updates.
That's a big dilemma for me...
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EVERY phone you buy will be obsolete in a couple of months, except for iPhones, if by obsolete you mean there will be a faster/better phone on the market in a couple of months.
The Nexus S has the best hardware (screen, cpu, gpu, nand memory) on the market that's available right now. It also has the latest and most advanced version of the Android OS...in fact no other phone has Android 2.3.x (aka Gingerbread) officially yet.
The Nexus S will get its software updates directly from Google, not from Samsung, and it will most likely be the first to get it before any device, just the same way the Nexus One was the first to get Froyo months before any other device. This is now Google's annointed phone for the time being. It's their baby, not Samsung's. (oops, I think I mis-read you, you're afraid a new Samsung version of the phone will be at Samsung's mercy...it most likely will be).
exactly, SNS is pretty much the only phone that will be safe, and has a guaranteed OS upgrades
all other manufacturer models are kind of left to fend for themself, if they are lucky, they will get the OS ported over, if not they will be stuck forever on 2.1 (motorola, acer, dell, uwei phones) or 2.2 (some samsung) depending on the manufacturer
if you're going to wait for a dual core.. wait for a Nexus powered by a dual core
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But how long will it take for Google to release a new phone? If the SNS is barely 1 month old, I don't think it will be any time soon.
there's a new Nexus S coming out soon, just wait for that.
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there's a new Nexus S coming out soon, just wait for that.
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That might just be a rumor.
SubyWill said:
there's a new Nexus S coming out soon, just wait for that.
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That might just be a rumor.
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This is just a confusion going on. It is just the european version of the nexus s.
Thats correct.The european nexus s is coming.....(always late)
Other than possibly some games which may take advantage of the added horsepower, I really don't see the current phone OSs needing dual-core, or being able to utilize it. And even for games, look at how much iOS can squeeze out of single-core chips. How much detail and rendering power do you really need for a 4" screen?
It's really mostly marketing for now, and for the next year, possibly two.
Plus, I guarantee you, within a month of the dual-core comes to market, there will be rumors about the quad-cores which will surely blow them away in just a few short months
Don't get an early adopter dual core. Unless you don't care about vanilla android or updates.
The Nexus S will not be obsolete until the next Nexus comes out, which will probably be at the end of 2011 or beginning of 2012. Even then, it probably still won't be obsolete. The Hummingbird is very powerful. The Nexus S is very smooth.
Thanks to everyone for your opinion, specially to posts #13 and #14.
I have decided to go and get it now, well, I just need to get rid of this iPhone I have now. =P
Any reason to not get a Nexus S right now?
I'm looking for a stock android experience. I will be buying the phone on contract. I really don't care about the tegra 2 devices.
I'm not a big fan of Samsung. But it seems that wont be an issue since all the updates come from Google.
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I'm happy with the Nexus S and would buy it again if I had a chance to do it all over again. The only issue that I personally feel is valid is the lack of an SD card slot. I personally don't mind since I never really used it, others however keep quite an arsenal of files. So how you use the phone should dictate if that matters to you or not.
I've had to return my phone once but it was rather simple to just return it to Best Buy and exchange it out. The N1 has its flaws and so does the NS as far as meeting expectations. If you want a phone that is pure Google, and you are tickled by the fact of having AOSP support for your device, and enjoy reasonable and timely updates from Google then I'd have to say this is the phone you want.
The N1 is a great phone to this day, but its got some pretty annoying flaws such as multi-touch and the buttons on the N1 drove me crazy (unresponsive at times). The NS screen in my opinion is quite better than the N1 as well.
IMO you'll enjoy the phone.
Get the nexus s. Great f***ing phone
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Its up to you
do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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ive been through many phones already. i came back to the sensation because the specs of the current phones are all the same in some way. i chose sensation for build quality, looks, and camera. and especially with the One series coming out, wait for it.
Galaxy nexus is not an upgrade from sensation, it is a side grade. It's better in some ways but worse in others.
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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Hmm, thanks for the reply . I've already made a deal with the seller and we're meeting up tomorrow. Will probably make a comparison. But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
Double Edit: Stop being a serial thanker lol.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
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Aaawww dem. Guess I'll find out tomorrow! Thanks anyways
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There are some amaizing development on diffrent kernels on the GN. So with a costum kernel you will brobably not feel like it´s going slower atleast...
Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
I really wouldnt get the Nexus and go for the S2 or wait a month or two for the Htc one X and im sure there will be AOSP roms for it soon
The one X looks like a beast even with the htc sense on it
The Galaxy Nexus is an awesome buy, the trouble with always waiting is that you end up buying nothing
As said its a side grade, but you get the benefit of quick novelty updates. Personally I would wait for A15 cored phones instead.
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Haha, I got my nexus. Its an upgrade from the sensation. Even though specs isn't as nice on paper, it feels faster. I don't regret getting it.
As for the one x will get aosp in a few months, I wouldn't count on it. People have been saying that for the sensation ever since the day we got s-off. But look at it now. Lol.
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Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
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Infuse is not a variant of the S2. It's closer to the S1 than S2
YES YES YES, nexus ALWAYS gets support from google no matter what, for about 2 years. The one thing I have witnessed with android is horrible support and update timelines for every phone other than the nexus line. Plus if you're not happy, the nexus always has a rather big dev community
there are some really good changes in the new one so I think its better to go for a new one if you really like
I will. Anyone else? In a couple months can't wait!
The overall specifications of the Galaxy S5 are: a 64-bit Exynos or a Snapdragon processor, it will pack 3 GB of RAM, a 16 MP camera, a 4,000 mAh battery, and it will run on Android 4.4 Kitkat.
This source claims that there will be a “Premium” model sporting a metal case, and a flexible OLED and one “normal” version sporting a normal OLED and a plastic chassis.
Samsung would need to do a lot more than that for me even to consider going back to them. Any closed-source exynos based device is off my radar immediately after the experience of my s3. Nah, even if the specs don't agree, nexus is a much better device for me.
Besides, any performance benefits of hardware are immediately lost when dropping touchwiz on a device.
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I have left the Nexus line before and keep coming back - I'm pretty certain I'm gonna stick with the N5 until the next Nexus is launched
Have had the s3 and s4 never going back to samsung
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You've got yourself hung up on hardware and not the actual experience offered.
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after what theyre pulling with knox im never going back. sold my s4 to get the n5 and i love it in every way. the camera might only be 8mp but im able to take pics that are on par with the s4, some even better with OIS.
and i heard that the s5 is going to be unibody, which to my understanding means no removable battery. (may be wrong)
Yes technically the nexus 5 also doesnt have a removeable battery, but its so easy to take it apart without any real tools that i consider the battery to be removeable.
Though im not saying im going to stay with nexus. LG looks promising and so does sony. so my next phone may be from one of them if they are able to wow me and they are lax with rooting n such.
One more month!
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One more month!
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Have fun with it
Until Google stops making them, I'm going to keep buying them.
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I'd rather fight than switch.
I can't do AMOLED screens. They strain my eyes like the crappy screens Apple is starting to use in their new products. Even with glasses, I get a dull headache after about 15 minutes.
well i was with htc for a while.. evo 4g.. evo 3d.. evo 4g LTE.. then i traded my evo lte for the S3.. then got the S4 when it dropped.. got bored with the S4 then traded my S4 for the HTC ONE.. didnt like the HTC ONE much besides the speakers.. so i sold the HTC ONE and got another S4.. Never liked stock android on any of them devices.. then i heard the N5 was coming out figured i would give Nexus a try.. so i orderd my N5 oct 31 from the play store.. got it a few days later.. and i have to say that i LOVE my N5 more then any phone.. wish i would have went with Nexus years ago.. now i love stock android.. so smooth/fast.. and i love flashing rom/kernels so the nexus is perfect for me.. so much development.. I would Never get another phone.. thats why i pray google dont do away with Nexus anytime soon.. i just got here and i love it!!:good: if i didnt like this Nexus so much i would prob get the S5.. cause notes are to big in my eyes and im so done with HTC taking 6 months to release kernel source.. Nexus FTW
Personally, I don't see myself buying another Non-Nexus device ever again (unless they stop making them). I've played with the HTC One, S4, and IP5s quite a bit (friends' devices) and wouldn't consider trading my N5 for any of those. I love vanilla Android and staying off of a cellular contract is nice as well.
Time for a change
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Personally, I don't see myself buying another Non-Nexus device ever again (unless they stop making them). I've played with the HTC One, S4, and IP5s quite a bit (friends' devices) and wouldn't consider trading my N5 for any of those. I love vanilla Android and staying off of a cellular contract is nice as well.
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I am considering going to the N5 since my Sprint contract is up tomorrow. I currently have the Epic 4G touch....4G...yeah right....I would love to get a phone that actually has 4G service.......
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I will. Anyone else? In a couple months can't wait!
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You're comparing a phone thats standardly $350-400 Unlocked to a premium phone that would well be over $800.
My nexus is going to stick with me for a few years.
I'll be laughing becuase you'll be stuck on a contract/tab, and i've already payed out my phone.
I'm the kind of guy who has absolutely ZERO brand loyalty. I don't care who makes it, if it's cool I'll likely buy it. I have a MacBook Pro, Surface Pro, iPad Mini, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Nexus 7, Nexus 5, Moto X, and I've had a couple iPhones. I'm also a Ford truck guy but currently drive a Dodge Challenger. The point I'm trying to make is whatever the next great smartphone is, regardless of brand or manufacturer, I WILL buy it. So that means I am going to have the HTC One + or whatever it will be called, I'll also likely get the GS5 as long as there's a metal one like the rumors state. The Nexus 5 has been great to me, but it's just a phone. I get that it's a Nexus and everyone here are Nexus die hards, but there is nothing about it that screams "these are the only phones I will ever buy from this point forward." That said, I will also likely buy the Nexus 6, so long as it's cool.
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64 bit processor is CRAP marketing that apple pushed and as everything apple does, Samsung will as well. The different is hardly measurable.
More than 2 GB on a phone is waste in my opinion, I never get much past 1gb anyway.
4000 mah battery is just CRAP except if the device is as huge as the note, it is not like Samsung invented some new super dense battery.
Not much of an upgrade apart from camera.
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I'm the kind of guy who has absolutely ZERO brand loyalty. I don't care who makes it, if it's cool I'll likely buy it. I have a MacBook Pro, Surface Pro, iPad Mini, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Nexus 7, Nexus 5, Moto X, and I've had a couple iPhones. I'm also a Ford truck guy but currently drive a Dodge Challenger. The point I'm trying to make is whatever the next great smartphone is, regardless of brand or manufacturer, I WILL buy it. So that means I am going to have the HTC One + or whatever it will be called, I'll also likely get the GS5 as long as there's a metal one like the rumors state. The Nexus 5 has been great to me, but it's just a phone. I get that it's a Nexus and everyone here are Nexus die hards, but there is nothing about it that screams "these are the only phones I will ever buy from this point forward." That said, I will also likely buy the Nexus 6, so long as it's cool.
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Yeah I'm like this too, it's just that I don't have that kind of money to keep buying every phone that comes out
I have all 3 major ecosystems, and I really don't care which one I use. They all work great for certain things, and not so great for others.
No way I'll ever use Samsung phones again; bloatware, ridiculous software add-ons, flimsy designs, gimmicks, touch wiz and way too expensive. I'll stick with nexus until it isn't around anymore and go with anything BUT Samsung... overrated and overpriced. BTW I owned several Samsung's including the S4 and returned them all...
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