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Google teaming with samsung - fail?

I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?

I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.

Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.

I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...

Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.

Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.

AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."

z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen

The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.

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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.

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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.

Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"

Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.

I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!

put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win

I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

[Q] Nexus S for AT&T

I've been wanting to jump on to the nexus s bandwagon ever since it came out but like always it seems like AT&T is always lacking behind when getting top of the line android phones. Anyhow do you guys think it's worth the money getting the nexus s now? I know the galaxy II is around the corner but I'm not to found of the 4.3' screen I think 4' inches is ideal for me and I know dual core is going to be the next big thing but I see that the humming bird processor does hold up on it's own.
I have a few questions
How is the camera quality? I currently have the iPhone 4 and it does have a nice camera
Is running stock ideal or installing a rom is must to get the best out of the nexus s?
Will all roms work on the i9020a variant phone.?
Is it true that the browser is laggy? And have the reboots problems been fixed?
Where is a good place to buy the nexus s? Lowest price
Sorry for all the questions

I recently purchased the white Nexus S with at&t 3G bands from Negri so far I'm loving it. I also have an iPhone 4 as well. They both have pros and cons. In terms of camera quality the iPhone does win. Pictures are better as well as HD video recording which the Nexus lacks. That aside the Nexus is really a great device that's pure Android. Only place I know where to get it is from Negrielectronics.com for $600.
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Thanks for responding!! Mind giving me your pros and cons compared to the iPhone 4? Are you still running stock or already put a custom rom on it? I think I'm just going to take the plunge and get it lol

doug0365 said:
Thanks for responding!! Mind giving me your pros and cons compared to the iPhone 4? Are you still running stock or already put a custom rom on it? I think I'm just going to take the plunge and get it lol
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I've been back and forth with my iPhone 4 and nexus s. I'll tell u this tho:
Camera is better on iPhone, but photos are only marginally better IMHO. The video quality kills the nexus.
Battery life is about the same.
Screen is better on the nexus. Larger and better color

Camera is much better on the iPhone hands down and battery life kills the nexus. The iPhone can easily go a full 24 with heavy use without being charged. The nexus on the other hand can not. I bring my charger to work daily while using it. That aside the nexus is a great device. Just buy it. And the white is sweet.
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Well I went to a local bestbuy and bought the T-Mobile version to try it out lol. I'm responding with it right now so I will play around with it before I fully commit buying the att version since not having 3g sucks ass
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That was a good idea to test it out. I'm sure you'll like it.
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Think I should go for the Galaxy S II or wait?

I'd get it off contract because I'm crazy and illogical. But the Galaxy S II looks great, even if ATT shrunk the screen. I know the Nexus Prime is coming out soon, but I am iffy on it. All of the previous Nexus's seemed to fizzle out quickly or something, though I know none were ever made by the current Samsung beast company.
I guess I should wait for that announcement. A curved screen isn't weird, is it?

Att didn't shrink the screen. Their version, the I777, is the closest to the original S2. The other carriers mess with their versions more.

I plan on waiting for the Nexus Prime. I'm pretty sure it's going to set the new standard for smart phones in 2012.

Ya I'm kinda in the same boat. But the important thing is whether the nexus it galaxy will have the most active community because for me that is really what made my phone. Also I saw somewhere that Samsung is coming out with 1.5ghz chips for their phones in the spring and you may wanna wait for that
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I'll bleed for S ll
I want phone off contract but don't want to derail budget. Realized if I donate blood that's sixty to seventy dollars a week..

i'm waiting to see about the prime. some rumours are it will be CDMA/Verizon. besides, it's only tuesday

I would wait for not necessarily the prime but a phone with:
- 720p screen
- Quad Core cpu (Kal-El hopefully because I am sick of looking at games like shadowgun and I cannot play. I know there is chainfire3d but it does not work for all games)

Nexus Prime sounds perty nice, but looks like it may be a Verizon exclusive for now.
I was REALLY looking forward to the S II on AT&T, but it's taken so long to get here that at this point I'm thinking of holding off for the Galaxy Note (possibly early 2012). It may to big for some but I like the S pen thing and will be using it for business.
PLayes with the S II yesterday for a few minutes. It was nice and my captivate is getting long in the tooth... Tempting, but I will likely wait (for the Note).
As for waiting for the Nexus Prime, you may have a bit of a wait if indeed it starts out as a Verizon exclusive.

The joy and bane of android phones is that they self-obsolete themselves every 6 months. There will ALWAYS be a better phone that is just past the corner. The android phone scene is advancing faster than any other hardware wise.
I went with the Thrill: dual core, dual channel RAM, 3D screen, HDMI output (cable included), excellent build quality, same "4"G, plus its $20 from Walmart online on contract. In many ways its even or outspecs the galaxy s 2, but much softer on the wallet. I just couldn't rationalize paying an extra $100+ just to get more choice in custom ROMs.
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I'm sorry but I think the sgs 2 is worth it because of the screen power and community resources
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Well, I just read that an AT&T flavored Nexus Prime has hit the FCC. So we might indeed be getting this 4.0 device.
Still the Galaxy Note has the feature set I'm really after.

For me its between the htc holiday and the nexus prime. Its pretty much whatever comes out first. Once i went to the htc inspire, I fell in love with htc. Still absolutely love my Captivate though
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Just get it
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Time to upgrade, but can't decide on which one

Hey guys, I believe this is my first post.
I've had a Nexus S 4G since last March and Sprint is telling me that I'm eligible for an upgrade. My wife doesn't seem to want to get a new phone so I'm thinking about giving her my Nexus S and getting a new one for me.
I'm looking at the LG Optimus G and the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest thing drawing me to the GNex is it's fairly similar to the Nexus S, and I love that phone. Would just like the GNex for the faster processor and more space. The Optimus G looks interesting because it seems to be the CDMA version of the Nexus 4, but the glass casing and terrible LG updates are making me second guess.
I've also noticed the the development for the Optimus seems stale, maybe since it's so new. Where on the other side, I already know that the development for the GNex is huge.
Thoughts, opinions, flames, whatever you want to bring to the table, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks!

be like everyone else and just get the s3

Gungrave223 said:
be like everyone else and just get the s3
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+1 or note2
life!

note 2 is too big to handle, go for Galaxy Nexus, its a killer

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note 2 is too big to handle, go for Galaxy Nexus, its a killer
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Okay, after some research and finding out that the Optimus G does not have a removable battery, that one is definitely off the table.
I seriously may consider the GS3. I just love the Nexus devices so much though. The GNex seems to me like a Nexus S on steroids.
I'll see. Gonna go look at some tonight and see what kind of deals people have. I know the old lady wants a GS3 so I may surprise her with one.

only android?
or you are looking for something else?

you cant go wrong with a gs3..and if you wanna root and mod it,this is the place to be with your gs3

bear in mind also if u plan to use LTE support, different country, uses different band and make sure u get the right phones, i got an LG optimus, and my provided provide a different LTE band... suck...

go for Galaxy Nexus you won't regret it.

Well the galaxy nexus gsm version is the best phone I used so far. But I heard bad things about the CDMA version such as potentially poor signal, much slower official updates compared to the gsm version and less battery life. Don't forget the Galaxy Nexus will have the widest variety of third party os roms such as firefox and upcoming Ubuntu and Tizen.
The Galaxy S3 might be a better choice if you don't need as cutting edge roms and updates though. It has excellent camera, microsd slot, longer battery, slightly better screen and beret sound quality (either the us or international version). I'm disappointed with the built quality though and the Nexus built is definitely better even if not great. Also you should read the thread about many people getting sudden death issue with their 16gb S3 due to failed nand, but I guess you're okay if you have sprint warranty.
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Gnex is a great choise. However it is 1.5
year old. Optimistic G is like a little monster!! But do u trust LG???. Don't forget that 4x won't update to jb!!! If u like aosp look don't forget LG Nexus 4!!
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If u have big hands try note2
But if u have small hands then s3 will be fine for u
If u are going to root it then there is no reason for buying nexus phone......
I am an Android Fanboy but Steve Jobs had Rightly said that if a phone cant be used by one hand it's not a phone......

IF ITS BETWEEN THOSE TWO;GET THE NEXUS MAN :thumbup:
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Ayushsinghal said:
Steve Jobs had Rightly said that if a phone cant be used by one hand it's not a phone......
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I do not used a touch screen phone one handed, it's a very slow way of controlling when my index finger can move faster and is more flexible than my thumb.
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wait for the galaxy s4..?
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I'd go for the Galaxy Nexus

Dude get a Note 2 pls

go for Nexus 4

How about oppo find 5?

wait for another somedays & go for the Sony Xperia Z

HTC one vs Samsung Galaxy S4

If you had an upgrade what would you choose.........
My choice would be the one. I like the LCD screen found on the DNA. I have alot of faith in the 4 Ultra pixel camera. I want a phone that doesn't feel like a child's toy. The quadrant scores on the One were amazing, although I'm sure the S4 will come close. What would you choose?
FYI: all phones have ultra pixels, however there 1.1. The ones found on the One are 2.0. Just saying
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After samsungs sharade unpacked event of the galaxy s4/s3 pebble 2 with shiney stuff around the edge ..
My kids inheratance would be heading towards htc
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand

Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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ShapesBlue said:
Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
Oh and you think HTC uses plastic now? The One is all aluminum....wow, so misinformed....
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
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Well currently the htc one isn't available on my carrier. So the best phone available is the S3 and soon to be S4. I don't hate htc I just could care less to stick with them
And it's called my opinion for a reason. If you don't like it then that's your opinion
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Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Jooosty said:
Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Dude that's the truth with the batteries for sure
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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Really the iPhone is a better built phone? It's built in the same foreign countries with the same parts except for the processor. IPhones are boring useless pieces of crap
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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.

I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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what HTC have done with the ONE is ground breaking on both hardware and software,no other company has changed its hardware software so radically from its previous flagship device.With out HTC and the like apple and samsung's upgrades would be even less
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bartholomey said:
I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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iPhones honestly aren't worth the price no matter how discounted they are.
While they may be built better your comparing apples to oranges. No pun intended on the apple thing.
But really I think we can all mostly agree here that android overall is better.
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You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
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Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.

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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.
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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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Samsung really pulled an Apple with this Galaxy S3s. But HTC is not to be trusted

rl421403 said:
Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
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Yea I've completely gone away from Motorola all together myself and that's a selling point for me being able to root my phone and changing it around nearly completely
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This was exactly like last year for me.
I wanted a phone with huge storage capacity/microSD capacity and long battery life/removable battery with decent specs. And QWERTY but I have given up on the last thing.
The HTC One X was released and as pretty as the White one was, it definitely was not a purchase I was willing to make and I waited for the Samsung Galaxy S3 announcement. The announcement came and Samsung gave me what I wanted. I bought the S3.
Fast forward this year. HTC One announced. Still no microSD slot but looks like decent battery life. Looks very pretty too (I still think the white One X is the best looking HTC phone though). Not bad this time around HTC but let's wait to hear from Samsung. S4 gets announced and again, they have what I want from last year.
If I was choosing again between HTC or Samsung this year: Samsung Galaxy S4 because it has what I want from last year.
Luckily I want more stuff this year which is why I'm not going to buy a S4. My S3 is lovely and I don't need to buy an S4. However, I now really want a bigger screen. This year, I'll be looking to buy a Note 3 or competitor version as long as it has a huge screen, huge capacity/microSD, huge battery.
Honestly, I don't care what company you are or even what your phone looks like (I bought the S3 for god sakes). Just give me what I want and I'd buy it. I'm also eyeing the Blackberry Q10 simply because of the QWERTY but I think my lust for a bigger screen will win out. Plus the stylus is alright...right?

bartholomey said:
I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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No, I am not saying, I am upgrading S4 from S3. But I would pick S4 over HTC One.
I will probably get Note 3. I also do not rule out possibility to get S4, if I get some cool discount.