Should I root? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I was wondering if I should root my nexus 5... What advantages would it have over the unrooted phone apart from custom roms? Any special features?
Thanks!

No special features. But custom roms. Why wouldn't you root? My motto, if you can do it, do it. And put a recovery on.

jd1639 said:
No special features. But custom roms. Why wouldn't you root? My motto, if you can do it, do it. And put a recovery on.
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The thing is i dont know if I'll be using custom roms... still trying to look at possible ones which would be better than just android

nad4321 said:
The thing is i dont know if I'll be using custom roms... still trying to look at possible ones which would be better than just android
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Yes, besides custom roms/kernels also for Adblocking, Titanium/Nandroid Backup, theming and tweaking etc etc.

gee2012 said:
Yes, besides custom roms/kernels also for Adblocking, Titanium/Nandroid Backup, theming and tweaking etc etc.
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One silly questions, if i then install a custom rom/ change rom, would all the data be erased?

nad4321 said:
The thing is i dont know if I'll be using custom roms... still trying to look at possible ones which would be better than just android
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If it were me, I'd root it, put on a custom recovery, and make a nandroid of it right out of the box. Then I could always go back to brand new easily. Right now there are no custom roms but that will change fast.

nad4321 said:
One silly questions, if i then install a custom rom/ change rom, would all the data be erased?
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If you full wipe yes, but you can restore apps and app data with Titanium Backup or Helium.

gee2012 said:
If you full wipe yes, but you can restore apps and app data with Titanium Backup or Helium.
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Thanks! What is the best way to root and to then manage the ROMs? Thank again!

nad4321 said:
Thanks! What is the best way to root and to then manage the ROMs? Thank again!
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Look in the development forum. Chainfire has a root method and cwm and twrp recoveries are there.

jd1639 said:
Look in the development forum. Chainfire has a root method and cwm and twrp recoveries are there.
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Which one would you recommend?

nad4321 said:
Which one would you recommend?
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CF Auto Root is easy as pie, download and extract the right file, enable USB debugging on the phone, go into fastbootmode, connnect to the PC and select root.window.bat in the extracted file.

gee2012 said:
CF Auto Root is easy as pie, download and extract the right file, go into fastbootmode and connnect to the PC and select root.window.bat in the extracted file.
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Would that be everything I need to do? and then im ready to instal custom roms without doing anything else?

nad4321 said:
Would that be everything I need to do? and then im ready to instal custom roms without doing anything else?
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After you rooted install a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup and to be able to flash roms and kernels. First backup your apps and settings with TB or Helium.

gee2012 said:
After you rooted install a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup and to be able to flash roms and kernels. First backup your apps and settings with TB or Helium.
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How could I do that(install the custom revoery to make a nandroid backup)
Also, i need to be a root user to use helium right?
Thanks a lot!

nad4321 said:
Which one would you recommend?
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Personally I prefer twrp

nad4321 said:
Would that be everything I need to do? and then im ready to instal custom roms without doing anything else?
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You need to use a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup before installing a new ROM but yes, after you root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and copy it to a safe place that won't get wiped during ROM install, you are ready to play around. It is always a good safe practice to already have any necessary drivers on your computer so you can use fastboot to rescue your device if you make a mistake and brick it.
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nad4321 said:
How could I do that(install the custom revoery to make a nandroid backup)
Also, i need to be a root user to use helium right?
Thanks a lot!
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Look here for custom recovery`s http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development and no you don`t need root for Helium backup.

jd1639 said:
Personally I prefer twrp
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Thanks a lot, as far as I see, there is no working twrp so I guess I'll have to wait xD

lalec said:
You need to use a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup before installing a new ROM but yes, after you root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and copy it to a safe place that won't get wiped during ROM install, you are ready to play around. It is always a good safe practice to already have any necessary drivers on your computer so you can use fastboot to rescue your device if you make a mistake and brick it.
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Sorry for being pedantic... So once I have helium, i can change rom as many times as i want that as long as i backup everytime before i do it, i can put it back in just a couple of minutes even if i changed rom right?

nad4321 said:
Sorry for being pedantic... So once I have helium, i can change rom as many times as i want that as long as i backup everytime before i do it, i can put it back in just a couple of minutes even if i changed rom right?
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You`re not pedantic, just a bit lazy! All your questions can be answered in the right upper search bar and Google bro.

Related

(Request) Stock ICS rooted with sticky recovery.

Hi guys, as above, full stock rom that is rooted that I can flash through clockwork and that won't replace clockwork with standard recovery, already asked in q+a but no joy, so I am asking here, many thanks!
Sticky recovery?
dictionary said:
Sticky recovery?
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Stock roms replace clockwork with standard recovery, u have to remove a file to stop this happening. I know what I am asking for exists, I just can't find one with a working download link.
ITT: Not using the Search function to full effect.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399273
Lalaca said:
ITT: Not using the Search function to full effect.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399273
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Thanks I did see that, but that has tweeks etc.. I am looking for straight stock, not altered except for root and that recovery file removed.
If all you're out to do is keep Clockwork, flash this after flashing (but before booting into) stock rom.
Lalaca said:
If all you're out to do is keep Clockwork, flash this after flashing (but before booting into) stock rom.
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This and keep root, should I just flash super user zip at the same time?
Thanks for the help.
Yeah, that will work. What the above zip does is remove the script file that regenerates stock Android recovery, so Clockwork doesn't get deleted on every boot.
Lalaca said:
Yeah, that will work. What the above zip does is remove the script file that regenerates stock Android recovery, so Clockwork doesn't get deleted on every boot.
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Nice one! Thanks for the help.
CONTACTMC said:
Nice one! Thanks for the help.
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No reason for this to be in DEV.
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How to copy cwm backup to many devices of the same type?

Sorry for don't knowing the correct section for this thread.
I installed a custom rom (CM 10.1, with special settings and software) to an Android phone (Samsung GT-S7710).
Now I have to copy this exact system to about 150 devices of the same type.
Is this possible with an cwm backup??
I've also tried to build a odin flashable *.tar file, but don't successful.
What's the best way to make an image of the entire Android system, with all the settings and data. (if possible also from the internal sdcard)
ps.: I have to do the same with a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0
Thanks very much in advance!
geopicture said:
Sorry for don't knowing the correct section for this thread.
... Is this possible with an cwm backup?? ...
Thanks very much in advance!
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I alwaysthought that was possible with CWM.
Wotzit said:
I alwaysthought that was possible with CWM.
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yes it is possible, but I have troubles with the radio/modem every time.
i have to switch on and off the flightmode before i get a signal.
geopicture said:
yes it is possible, but I have troubles with the radio/modem every time.
i have to switch on and off the flightmode before i get a signal.
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Make a new nandroid back up after toggling the flight mode and then use the new one to modify all the other devices.
justmpm said:
Make a new nandroid back up after toggling the flight mode and then use the new one to modify all the other devices.
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Thanks for your help, but it's still not working. I'm using the cm 10.1 rom by flxo.
I flashed the correct stock rom (like flxo mentioned) and installed the custom rom, but the signal returns not before toggling the flight mode or waiting for about 10 minutes...
Any other ideas?
geopicture said:
Any other ideas?
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you can try flashing only the modem again, You can use Mobile odin or flashify or flash gordon or CWM
Check this out! You , YES! you are an " Android ". Not your phone but U.​
Install the Rom (because you need to flash the kernel)then restore the data partition :thumbup:
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CLINTZ9 said:
Install the Rom (because you need to flash the kernel)then restore the data partition :thumbup:
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Thanks for your reply. What's the best way to restore the data partition on Samsung Phones?
I tried to "dd if=...mmcblk0p25 of=...extsdcard/data.img" - then (in cygwin) I made a tar.md5 out of it and triet to flash it with odin???
But it didn't work.

Restoring using TWRP

Hello,
I am flashing a custom rom and using TWRP for the first time. When restoring, there are 3 checkboxes (system, data, and boot)
What do the boot and system options mean?
Kernel aka boot.img
Keep it checked. Otherwise, you may have an incompatible kernel for your ROM and will get bootloops.
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DigitalUnderground said:
Kernel aka boot.img
Keep it checked. Otherwise, you may have an incompatible kernel for your ROM and will get bootloops.
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Thanks. So when i install a new rom, i only need to check boot and data?
Because at first, i checked all 3 and i ended up where i started (without the new rom installed).
netghozt said:
Thanks. So when i install a new rom, i only need to check boot and data?
Because at first, i checked all 3 and i ended up where i started (without the new rom installed).
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The restore and backup options have nothing to do with flashing a new rom. When flashing a new rom wipe, system, data cache, and dalvik. Then flash the rom
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Thanks
netghozt said:
Thanks
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Also make sure to backup your EFS folder in TWRP and store it on your PC. Better safe then sorry
Not sure what the EFS folder is, but thanks. So i ran into another problem. I lost my root access (not sure how). So i would have to reroot now and i bet that EFS folder is gone. I still have my Nandroid backup from before.
Thanks
netghozt said:
Not sure what the EFS folder is, but thanks. So i ran into another problem. I lost my root access (not sure how). So i would have to reroot now and i bet that EFS folder is gone. I still have my Nandroid backup from before.
Thanks
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You can root with TWRP itself or flash superSU.zip 1.94 (http://download.chainfire.eu/396/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.94.zip) in recovery. Your EFS folder isn`t gone.
netghozt said:
Thanks. So when i install a new rom, i only need to check boot and data?
Because at first, i checked all 3 and i ended up where i started (without the new rom installed).
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Whenever I do a backup or a restore, I check data, system, and boot.
When installing a new ROM, Wipe System, Data, Cache, and Dalvik. Then flash.
Search the forum for nexus 5 efs backup. Its always a good idea.
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gee2012 said:
You can root with TWRP itself or flash superSU.zip 1.94 in recovery. Your EFS folder isn`t gone.
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can i do this without root?
netghozt said:
can i do this without root?
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Sure, all phones are initialy unrooted
gee2012 said:
You can root with TWRP itself or flash superSU.zip 1.94 (http://download.chainfire.eu/396/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.94.zip) in recovery. Your EFS folder isn`t gone.
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So i downloaded the superSU.zip 1.94 file and attempted to flash in TWRP in recovery. The menu options are not the same since i've lost root access. It takes me to the advanced menu with ADB Sideload, Terminal Command, etc. So how do i flash superSU from here? Help please!
netghozt said:
So i downloaded the superSU.zip 1.94 file and attempted to flash in TWRP in recovery. The menu options are not the same since i've lost root access. It takes me to the advanced menu with ADB Sideload, Terminal Command, etc. So how do i flash superSU from here? Help please!
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Choose install zip , from sdcard and select the file and hit install.
gee2012 said:
Choose install zip , from sdcard and select the file and hit install.
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Boom. It worked! Thanks. So glad i didn't have to re-flash. Thank You!
netghozt said:
Boom. It worked! Thanks. So glad i didn't have to re-flash. Thank You!
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Great it worked out :good:

Can I flash a Rom from android L?

So I'm thinking of testing out andorid l, ut after that I am going to flash a cusotm Rom. (on kitkat) so I know I can root android L, but can I install a recovery and flash the Rom form there? Or should I flash back to KitKat then root and install recovery then flash the Rom?
Thanks in advance
nabil alami said:
So I'm thinking of testing out andorid l, ut after that I am going to flash a cusotm Rom. (on kitkat) so I know I can root android L, but can I install a recovery and flash the Rom form there? Or should I flash back to KitKat then root and install recovery then flash the Rom?
Thanks in advance
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I've flashed "L" about 5 times since the factory image was available (I'm indecisive like that) and before I go back to a custom ROM I always flash the factory 4.4.4 just to be safe. I haven't run into any problems doing that, and it may be overkill ; but I can confirm that the method won't break anything.
Liskrig said:
I've flashed "L" about 5 times since the factory image was available (I'm indecisive like that) and before I go back to a custom ROM I always flash the factory 4.4.4 just to be safe. I haven't run into any problems doing that, and it may be overkill ; but I can confirm that the method won't break anything.
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Alright cool so just..
1. flash recovery (I have root, but I need ercovery to make nandroid backup)
2. flash android l
3. root L
4. enjoy it
5. flash 4.4.4
6. root and recovery
7. flash rom
but one question...how can I make sure that cwm has " WITH SELINUX SUPPORT"?
nabil alami said:
Alright cool so just..
1. flash recovery (I have root, but I need ercovery to make nandroid backup)
2. flash android l
3. root L
4. enjoy it
5. flash 4.4.4
6. root and recovery
7. flash rom
but one question...how can I make sure that cwm has " WITH SELINUX SUPPORT"?
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By flashing twrp or Philz.
KJ said:
By flashing twrp or Philz.
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doesnt cwm support it?
nabil alami said:
doesnt cwm support it?
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Probably....its just not a popular recovery these days.
KJ said:
Probably....its just not a popular recovery these days.
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alright i'll prbably flash thru flashify...philz and twrp are guranteed with the support right ?
nabil alami said:
alright i'll prbably flash thru flashify...philz and twrp are guranteed with the support right ?
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There are no guarantees here, but both will work fine
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jd1639 said:
There are no guarantees here, but both will work fine
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haha true dat ;D Thanks anyways...will be working on it in a couple of mins
you can flash L, then any other ROM you want after, from 444. I don't know about philz, but using twrp, you can wipe you system, which makes your phone romless until you flash another ROM. so you can flash 444, then flash L, then flash 441(if you wanted to).
I flash L via recovery, not via system image. it makes it much easier going back and forth
simms22 said:
you can flash L, then any other ROM you want after, from 444. I don't know about philz, but using twrp, you can wipe you system, which makes your phone romless until you flash another ROM. so you can flash 444, then flash L, then flash 441(if you wanted to).
I flash L via recovery, not via system image. it makes it much easier going back and forth
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You mean a custom L version...since only the image is given by google..
nabil alami said:
You mean a custom L version...since only the image is given by google..
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a zipped up google version, by @vomer. its not small, like 400+mb, and takes 7-10 minutes to flash. I don't own a computer, so I go the other route(unless it can be flashed via terminal emulator) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53700335&postcount=1
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the guys are going to hate(not really) me for taking you this route. they are good guys, really. sorry guys!
simms22 said:
a zipped up google version, by @vomer. its not small, like 400+mb, and takes 7-10 minutes to flash. I don't own a computer, so I go the other route(unless it can be flashed via terminal emulator) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53700335&postcount=1
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the guys are going to hate(not really) me for taking you this route. they are good guys, really. sorry guys!
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actully I am probably going to flash using fastboot
nabil alami said:
actully I am probably going to flash using fastboot
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sweet!
simms22 said:
sweet!
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alright cool, so I just flashed it and flashed root and all is well, until i try downloading titanuim backup and the app says that there is no root....other apps have been granted root with no problems, and busybox is installed....solutins?
nabil alami said:
alright cool, so I just flashed it and flashed root and all is well, until i try downloading titanuim backup and the app says that there is no root....other apps have been granted root with no problems, and busybox is installed....solutins?
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what did you flash for su? what version?
simms22 said:
what did you flash for su? what version?
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I cant check now, since im uninstalling it then will reinstall, but i flashed cf auto root
edit: its 2:01
nabil alami said:
I cant check now, since im uninstalling it then will reinstall, but i flashed cf auto root
edit: its 2:01
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OK. let me upload a superuser apk that I use on L, on my n4. a few minutes..
why root toolbox?
simms22 said:
OK. let me upload a superuser apk that I use on L, on my n4. a few minutes..
why root toolbox?
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what?
nabil alami said:
what?
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I meant zip. a flashable supersuser.zip that works well on L. titanium backup works for me on L, on my n4 http://goo.gl/wvMC20

How to backup my android system ?

Hi guys ,
Can someone know how to do a Nandroid backup without root ? I just want to back up my system to be able to restore it of something goes wrong with my phone
naruto 13 said:
Hi guys ,
Can someone know how to do a Nandroid backup without root ? I just want to back up my system to be able to restore it of something goes wrong with my phone
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Can't be done. Backing up system requires root.
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naruto 13 said:
Hi guys ,
Can someone know how to do a Nandroid backup without root ? I just want to back up my system to be able to restore it of something goes wrong with my phone
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You can't backup without root. You must be rooted. Once you got root. You need to flash custom recovery like (CWM, TWRP or Philz) supported to your model. Then you can go to recovery and get full backup of your Android.
naruto 13 said:
Hi guys ,
Can someone know how to do a Nandroid backup without root ? I just want to back up my system to be able to restore it of something goes wrong with my phone
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You can also use adb to backup once you have root.
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You can't backup without root. You must be rooted. Once you got root. You need to flash custom recovery like (CWM, TWRP or Philz) supported to your model. Then you can go to recovery and get full backup of your Android.
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