Hangouts - backup - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Will TiBU backup messages in Hangouts? Or are Hangouts messages just synced with Google and always there like GV messages?

No one knows, try it.
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My unqualified guess:
The OS will still have dedicated SMS storage. If you use a 3rd party SMS client it will access this same SMS storage. Hangouts will access that storage too, but add Hangouts messages to the threads. Texts will not be stored in Hangouts app data.
You can try this out with the leaked Hangouts app.

cmstlist said:
My unqualified guess:
The OS will still have dedicated SMS storage. If you use a 3rd party SMS client it will access this same SMS storage. Hangouts will access that storage too, but add Hangouts messages to the threads. Texts will not be stored in Hangouts app data.
You can try this out with the leaked Hangouts app.
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It's an evil plot to coax us into G+...it will succeed, resistance is futile.

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[Q] cant change default sms app to google voice or others

when I try to set Google voice as my default SMS the only option I have is hangouts. I downloaded chomp and handcent just to test it and handcent shows as an option, but not chomp or Google voice. stock rooted, any ideas?
kellybrf said:
when I try to set Google voice as my default SMS the only option I have is hangouts. I downloaded chomp and handcent just to test it and handcent shows as an option, but not chomp or Google voice. stock rooted, any ideas?
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8SMS from the Play Store works.
It will work. But I just don't like the gv app for reading sms because of the way they are grouped. If you like it, great...u won't have to worry about sync issues from gv to a default app.
In GV settings, select to receive SMS "via google voice" instead of the messaging app. And set up notifications with in gv.
In this case I don't think GV will forward messages to the system default app. If it does, you will get double notifications. If that happens turn off all notifications in hangouts and/or sign out maybe.
I've been using Textra as my SMS app.
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The developer of the app has to update the app to 4.4 comparability to add that feature. I am using Textra and I really like it.
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Yes, apps need to be updated for SMS because Google changed the way how it works. Only one app can receive and send SMS, before any app can.
I just started using textra instead of hangouts because I want quick reply lol
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akenis said:
It will work. But I just don't like the gv app for reading sms because of the way they are grouped. If you like it, great...u won't have to worry about sync issues from gv to a default app.
In GV settings, select to receive SMS "via google voice" instead of the messaging app. And set up notifications with in gv.
In this case I don't think GV will forward messages to the system default app. If it does, you will get double notifications. If that happens turn off all notifications in hangouts and/or sign out maybe.
I've been using Textra as my SMS app.
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thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
expertzero1 said:
Yes, apps need to be updated for SMS because Google changed the way how it works. Only one app can receive and send SMS, before any app can.
I just started using textra instead of hangouts because I want quick reply lol
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well damn, knowing Google the all well never be updated
kellybrf said:
thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
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kellybrf said:
thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
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Well make up your mind! Before you said you wanted to use GV as your messaging app. Hence my advice before to pretty much ignore whatever you choose as default SMS app and just send/receive your text from within the GV app (Having selected "receive messages through GV app).
Now you're saying that you are trying to send messages from the default SMS app (hangouts). So what you are really saying is that you want to use a default SMS app (hangouts, or textra) and have the text go out your through your GV number? This is totally possible and what I am doing. Bear with me...
We have to understand the GV is NOT really SMS. It just intercepts SMS messages sent to your GV number and sends them to the GV app. These messages are coming to you phone through data, not the radio. Think of GV app operating in two different modes:
1) GV app can operate independently from your devices SMS (select "Via the GV app). You can send and receive messages from the GV app and they will use your GV number. None of these messages will be "forwarded" to the system app. In this scenario, you can also use the system app separately. Messages sent and received from the system default app wil not appear in the GV app, and will use your REAL phone number.
2) GV app can be used to relay these pseud SMS messages coming across your data to the default system app (select "via the messaging app"). In this case, messages sent to your GV number will appear in the GV app, and then be forwarded to the system app and use it's notification settings. Now this gets a little weird, but when this forwarding happens, the message received in the system app appears to come from an unknown phone number in some random area code. Not sure why... has something to do with the whole forwarding process. Luckily, if the real incomming number is in you contacts, then GV appends the contact name to the message. Now if you reply from within the GV app, it goes right back to the sender (no copy of your reply will appear in the system app, because you replied from within GV). If you reply from the system app, and that pseudo phone number... then it will forward back to the GV app (a copy will be there), translate back to the real phone number and send out the reply. And it will be from your GV number. The key is using that pseudo number that translates to the contacts real number. If YOU initiate a message from within the native app, then it just sends a regular SMS using your phones number, NOT your GV number (incidently, this is the only way to send MMS as of now, so you just have to tell the recepient to use the real phone number for pics). When I first figured this out, I used to just make sure that I always initiated the conversation from the GV app. The last neat trick is to save that pseudo number to the existing contact as either a pager (who uses those?) or a custom "pseudo GV" number. No you can initate the conversation from within the system app, and slect the pseudo number.... it will route to GV and appear to come from your GV number. If you use their real mobile number, it will appear to come from your actual phone number.
Clear as mud? Supposedly there are some changes coming to the way GV works. Lets hope they get this stuff a little more user friendly and allow SMS. Actually, I wouldn't mind just using the GV app if it didn't make multiple threads per contact. Good luck...
no, I want Google voice to be my one and only SMS app. on 4.3 and below, when I initiated a text from anywhere outside a messaging app it asked me what I wanted to use, Google voice or messaging or whatever SMS all I'd have installed. I'd get the use one or set as default dialog, and of i set as default gv would then handle all messaging.
with 4.4, when I initiate a text from outside an app it automatically goes through hangouts, and I cannot choose google voice as a default. if I want to send a text via gv, now I have to initiate it via gv. in the op I said I downloaded chomp and handcent just to see if I got the option to set them as a default, and of the 2 only handcent showed up one list. I think expertzero hit it, and Google just hasn't updated gv for 4.4 yet

Hangouts SMS on desktop?

So I'm sure this is a stupid question, but I'm asking anyway.
Now that Hangouts is the default app on our phones for SMS and MMS, I'm wondering about future potential for it. Specifically, I'd love to be able to use the hangouts app/extension on my desktop to send SMS messages from my phone. It's annoying to have to grab my phone to respond when I'm already at a PC. I'm working around that currently by using Mightytext, but it's annoying and buggy. If Hangouts is going to be the solution for messaging, I'd like to see that feature set integrated. Anyone know if this is possible or planned?
Additionally, is it possible (or planned) to have hangouts archive messages the same way it archives chats? This seems like the most useful purpose/benefit when it comes to using hangouts for text messaging.
Any thoughts or feedback?
I was chatting with a guy last night in the chat window in Gmail and it was syncing to hangouts on my phone?
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0dBu said:
I was chatting with a guy last night in the chat window in Gmail and it was syncing to hangouts on my phone?
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Yes, chats on google sync to your phone perfectly. I was thinking about SMS messages syncing to my computer the other direction. If you've ever used mightytext, you know what I'm talking about. It seems to me like it should be integrated into hangouts on the PC/gmail/google+

[Q] SMS Sync

ive been googling around and i cant find a modern thread about syncing sms and mms. i was hoping for hangout to do this but they decided not to i guess... anyways i was wondering if there is a practical way to sync sms messages. using hangout as my primary sms...er.... suggestions appreciated
dudekiller said:
ive been googling around and i cant find a modern thread about syncing sms and mms. i was hoping for hangout to do this but they decided not to i guess... anyways i was wondering if there is a practical way to sync sms messages. using hangout as my primary sms...er.... suggestions appreciated
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Not sure if you're willing but if you port your number to Google Voice all your text messages are in the cloud and will sync for every device you install GV on.
obsanity said:
Not sure if you're willing but if you port your number to Google Voice all your text messages are in the cloud and will sync for every device you install GV on.
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dont i have to cancel my contract for that
I use SMS Backup+ and it does backup text messages done through hangouts but I cannot restore texts to hangouts from these backups.
I have read that SMS Backup and Restore does work on KitKat and our N5s but there may be a hoop or two you have to jump through.
I need to find a good auto backup and ability to restore my texts, I miss that from my previous Android phones.
Raistlin1 said:
I use SMS Backup+ and it does backup text messages done through hangouts but I cannot restore texts to hangouts from these backups.
I have read that SMS Backup and Restore does work on KitKat and our N5s but there may be a hoop or two you have to jump through.
I need to find a good auto backup and ability to restore my texts, I miss that from my previous Android phones.
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Downloaded SMS Backup and restore. Downloaded the back up from my google drive . Restored the messages and a message appeared that i will have to set the default app to SMS Backup and Restore . Did that and then made Hangout the default app. all the restored messages appeared in hangout.
After this you can install any of the SMS apps from the play store like Go SMS Pro , Textra etc etc . Once this is done, Go to the settings of Hangout and uncheck the option of Hangout as the SMS app . All your text messages will now appear in the new SMS app you have downloaded from the play store.
dudekiller said:
dont i have to cancel my contract for that
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Oh, sorry, I totally forgot that some people are still on contracts. But once your contract is up in the future that would be a viable solution.
Assuming you're on Sprint with that contract you can also integrate your Sprint number with Google Voice which will have the exact reversible effect as permanently porting it.
Besides some backup and restore solutions that some other guys left above there really isn't anything that will sync your text messages.

messaging app

Hey Guys,
I wanted to know if there is a app that combines the hangouts with sms/mms,
What i mean is i have looked into CM Mms with sliding (hangouts) navigation & 8sms.
But both miss a feature that i like on hangouts when texting and that is the archive mode, use it all the time and right now hangouts is my main use.
Hopefully there is an app for this.
Thanks
Only Hangouts can send/receive Hangouts messages
ainen said:
Only Hangouts can send/receive Hangouts messages
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Im talking about the SMS part, and how you can archive the sms

Android 8.0 Messages app missing texts delete all

Some of my sent SMS text Messages are not showing when using third party apps like Tasker or Google Assistant.
How can I delete all texts from the Messages app?
What simple good alternative apps do people use for texting?
Sms and mms are stored inside android database, so that if you change default sms app, your messages will not be lost. Deleting a conversation from any app should delete it from database.

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