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I am having scrolling issues. I thought the issue was Rom related but after flashing cm7, UD, gingersense roms and even the stock RUU....I still have very choppy scrolling. I flash FULLWIPE prior to flashing any Rom. I have tried different kernels as well. Currently on ingersol 2.5 with kernel. Still a little choppy but the best I have has this far. Any ideas? I am willing to try anything really. My phone doesn't feel fast anymore thanks for the help.
FYI the issue is everywhere. Scrolling through setting, pics, app drawer, the web, and widgets.
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rawb123456 said:
I am having scrolling issues. I thought the issue was Rom related but after flashing cm7, UD, gingersense roms and even the stock RUU....I still have very choppy scrolling. I flash FULLWIPE prior to flashing any Rom. I have tried different kernels as well. Currently on ingersol 2.5 with kernel. Still a little choppy but the best I have has this far. Any ideas? I am willing to try anything really. My phone doesn't feel fast anymore thanks for the help.
FYI the issue is everywhere. Scrolling through setting, pics, app drawer, the web, and widgets.
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Well, you sound like your somewhat experienced with flashing and stuff, but I'll ask anyway:
Have you checked apps and services? Are you restoring (maybe inadvertently) backed-up system data or apps/data after new flashes that might be messing with something?
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I am not restoring with TB...but I am allowing Google to backup and restore. Could that be the issue? After each flash Google restores like 25 apps. Not data though.
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rawb123456 said:
I am not restoring with TB...but I am allowing Google to backup and restore. Could that be the issue? After each flash Google restores like 25 apps. Not data though.
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It could be. Google starts going to town on the app restoration thing.
I haven't done a whole a lot of new-rom flashes, but last flash, I remember Google taking the liberty of re-installing apps that I know for a fact I had uninstalled from the phone prior to the flash.
So I don't know how often or what action on the part of the user causes Google to "refresh" its list of what apps you have on your phone at any given time, but I personally would like to get some control over that.
So it's something to check into. I also don't know to what degree app data is able to be restore by way of the Google restore process, but I'd imagine it is possible for some of those apps to have some data restored as well.
Long story short... It's an area that has raised questions in my mind and I'm interested in gaining some clarity on the subject.
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Probably stating the obvious, but are you using a Live Wallpaper? Almost every one I have tried other than the stock ones cause visible scrolling and swiping lag for me.
I tried this and it seems to be working, I runned 5-6 apps at a time and no refreshes!
I need some confirmation on this though, could be just my imagination.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669074
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very exciting.
any side-effects of using it on One S? the author mentions some hiccups during heavy gaming, for example. can it be used on stock rom?
mannequin said:
very exciting.
any side-effects of using it on One S? the author mentions some hiccups during heavy gaming, for example. can it be used on stock rom?
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Nothing here so far, just seems to handle the multitasking way better than before. Yes it should work on stock. Just follow the instructions given in the thread
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Are you running the stock rom? I am on stock/rooted and don't have an init.d.
hehe.. I am too impatient to wait for a reply, I installed a custom rom that supports init.d and all is good.
It really does seem to work! Thanks!
FYI, if you want to try this on a stock rooted ROM, download minfree manager from the market and use the following mild multitasking values from the one x script
10 16 24 30 34 40
Tried it out and it really seems to help. I've got maps, gmail, chrome, pocketcasts, minfree in memory at the same time and only maps refreshes when switched to (but it's a pig, so unsurprised). Don't set "apply at boot" until you're sure you don't have any issues.
This works! I just installed it on the new Zydroid 3.0 1.84 base ROM. I have chrome beta, Pandora, Pulse, Currents, GMail and Facebook all running, and NONE refresh even after having them in the background for 5-10 minutes.
This phone FINALLY works as it should. I can switch between apps without being afraid that my current position will be killed. And Pandora was practically unusable for me as it kept getting "cleaned", causing it to hang, skip songs, etc. It's now working as it had on every other android phone I've owned.
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This works! I just installed it on the new Zydroid 3.0 1.84 base ROM. I have chrome beta, Pandora, Pulse, Currents, GMail and Facebook all running, and NONE refresh even after having them in the background for 5-10 minutes.
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same setup here but no matter what i do i can't get it to work - everything refreshes just like before.
For me it's way better and just as smooth as it to be. I have removed sense launcher and widgets, though , so I probably have a little more ram available.
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Will this work with leedroid supreme 2.1 for one s?
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Yep, it should work
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This script will work for all deodexed roms, look in system/etc/ if there is a folder called init.d and if there is you are on a deodexed rom.
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what should be the correct permissions? i have it on rwxrwxrwx.
Which one do you guys use? I used the ultimate one and it started killing apps left and right
Using CM9
it would be nice to have something like the last 5 apps used not killed and the other killed like in stock behavior so we can free some resources!
el_smurfo said:
FYI, if you want to try this on a stock rooted ROM, download minfree manager from the market and use the following mild multitasking values from the one x script
10 16 24 30 34 40
Tried it out and it really seems to help. I've got maps, gmail, chrome, pocketcasts, minfree in memory at the same time and only maps refreshes when switched to (but it's a pig, so unsurprised). Don't set "apply at boot" until you're sure you don't have any issues.
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How did you get those values for minfreemanager?
jayelbird said:
How did you get those values for minfreemanager?
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Take the values from the One X script and multiply by 4, then divide by 1024.
So, if I'm in the U.S i have odex and can i run this script? I know o need that init.d but it would be nice to know from the get go.
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Ashaman_Kupo said:
So, if I'm in the U.S i have odex and can i run this script? I know o need that init.d but it would be nice to know from the get go.
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If you have init.d working on your ROM... the multitasking script should work fine. I don't believe it has anything to do with odex /non-odex
I believe that one of the devs on here said they found HTC's framework to be killing tasks way before they should be, any chance that this will be documented for use with all 2012 HTC phones? Many phones like the Evo LTE, One X, One S, etc, are running into this issue, and it seems to be a very common problem.
My boyfriends' HTC Raider just received a 4.0.3 update from gingerbread going from sense 3.5 to 3.6, and suddenly multitasking on his is just like my One X... I really loathe this new direction HTC's taking.
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Aviras said:
My boyfriends' HTC Raider just received a 4.0.3 update from gingerbread going from sense 3.5 to 3.6, and suddenly multitasking on his is just like my One X... I really loathe this new direction HTC's taking.
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I read about how there's some HTC code that basically forces tasks to hibernate/kill after a certain amount of time, and I thought that might be a big reason why multitasking is broken.
Why are there still threads about multitasking? The 4.0.4 largely fixes multitasking problem.
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Why are there still threads about multitasking? The 4.0.4 largely fixes multitasking problem.
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No it doesn't. Not even close.
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Since updating this morning, I've found multitasking to be hugely improved. I can go 3 or 4 apps back, that haven't been run in awhile, and they're still sitting in the same spot. In the past they would definitely have had to restart. Really liking the update.
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thedauntlessone said:
Why are there still threads about multitasking? The 4.0.4 largely fixes multitasking problem.
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Because there is no confirmation that they removed the task killing code and reverted back to stock memory management.
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Just install a rom
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brutusbucknuts said:
Since updating this morning, I've found multitasking to be hugely improved. I can go 3 or 4 apps back, that haven't been run in awhile, and they're still sitting in the same spot. In the past they would definitely have had to restart. Really liking the update.
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Ditto. Post AT&T update I've yet to have the multitasking issues. I'm not sure if HTC did something to improve multitasking or if things just aren't flagged to be killed as fast because there is more RAM available upon boot up.
The issue has become a non issue post update for me though.
The update certainly fixed mine, and I HATED it before. Browser no longer reloads when I switch back, nor does Tapatalk, both of which were notorious culprits. Sense doesn't crash when coming out of gameplay now, either.
I went from less than 200mb of free RAM on a reboot to between 350-400mb of free RAM.
To me, multitasking is night and day different on 4.0.4.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
Because there is no confirmation that they removed the task killing code and reverted back to stock memory management.
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Every other post is saying how much multitasking improved, so go install CleanRom or other 4.0.4 based rom and judge for yourself. I ran 4 apps last night for an hour between Chrome, Facebook, Phone, Message, etc and multitasked them no problem with a ton of screen on/off. None of them had to reload once. It's not perfect, but to say not even close is a retarded statement.
The main problem with multitasking is that by default, it's limited to 15 apps max, so unless it's running as a service, there can only be 15 apps running at once. And since HTC likes to include all these extra apps, like HTC message uploader, music enhancer, HTC services(runs as an app actually), etc, 15 apps is not a lot, so when a new app is launched, it starts to kill apps no matter how much memory is left.
I've already discovered how to raise the limit, I'm just testing a couple of things before I release it
It does seem to be better on 4.0.4. The one thing that annoys me is that while I don't need to reload pages and all, I do have to get into the recent apps even for apps I don't close out the app. But it's much better than before.
Calkulin said:
The main problem with multitasking is that by default, it's limited to 15 apps max, so unless it's running as a service, there can only be 15 apps running at once. And since HTC likes to include all these extra apps, like HTC message uploader, music enhancer, HTC services(runs as an app actually), etc, 15 apps is not a lot, so when a new app is launched, it starts to kill apps no matter how much memory is left.
I've already discovered how to raise the limit, I'm just testing a couple of things before I release it
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Huh...interesting. Thanks for the info!
Calkulin said:
The main problem with multitasking is that by default, it's limited to 15 apps max, so unless it's running as a service, there can only be 15 apps running at once. And since HTC likes to include all these extra apps, like HTC message uploader, music enhancer, HTC services(runs as an app actually), etc, 15 apps is not a lot, so when a new app is launched, it starts to kill apps no matter how much memory is left.
I've already discovered how to raise the limit, I'm just testing a couple of things before I release it
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Cool, that was what I was wondering about.
Looks like there are still things yet to be discovered about the multitasking shenanigans inside our ROMs...
While more ram has indeed solved hangs and reboot issues, I find chrome still reloads, facebook still reloads, among others... For me, multitasking is no different than before and I've so far tried most of the 4.0.4 roms.
So yeah, I'd say multitasking has a ways to go yet, but that's just me... The above user's response is NOT retarded; that's just disrespectful... More like it's just his experience, and as far as user experiences goes, I'm finding the One XL to be really inconsistent.
Still, definitely an improvement. Baby steps.
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Calkulin said:
The main problem with multitasking is that by default, it's limited to 15 apps max, so unless it's running as a service, there can only be 15 apps running at once. And since HTC likes to include all these extra apps, like HTC message uploader, music enhancer, HTC services(runs as an app actually), etc, 15 apps is not a lot, so when a new app is launched, it starts to kill apps no matter how much memory is left.
I've already discovered how to raise the limit, I'm just testing a couple of things before I release it
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You still working on a rom?
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Am I the only one that gets this stuff? I get it on every JB Sense ROM and have tried toggling Disable HW Overlays and Force GPU Rendering.
Any ideas? Seems to be only Sense...other apps seem fine.
My guess is that it is a hardware issue. If you have it on every single rom, then something is probably wrong. Flash RUU
and see of it fixes it.
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ethantarheels123 said:
My guess is that it is a hardware issue. If you have it on every single rom, then something is probably wrong. Flash RUU
and see of it fixes it.
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It is on every JB Sense ROM....doesn't happen on CM 10, 10.1 or ICS Sense. In fact it doesn't even happen on any apps other than the Sense launcher. So odd. I don't want to flash RUU...too much work as I would have to re-root/re-SUPER CID right?
I see some tearing in the sense keyboard app, usually just tapping twice in an entry field clears it up.(usually)
Sorry that doesn't help much here though.
WR
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Has anyone found an AOSP based rom where the GPS works as good as it does on sense? At this point that's the only thing that's keeping me from making the switch.
Vanir
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Thanks. I'll try that out and report back!
You can also get a GPS lock by flashing sense and get a lock then flash some aosp
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Vanir, Liquid, CM, I personally find them all to have basically the same issues/flaws/success'
so whatever is going on in one ROM is usually going on in the others.
GPS works find on all like mentioned as long as you get a Sense GPS lock first then you are set.
In connection with the HTC One (non-M8) I remember reading that after flashing an AOSP-based ROM, GPS was still finicky after returning to a Sense ROM. The above suggests this is not the case.
Also, what do you mean getting a Sense GPS lock then flashing? Does this mean that if you've used navigation at least one time prior to flashing an AOSP-based ROM, you're fine? I can't imagine that's the case or else there would be far fewer problems than I see noted. Everyone uses their GPS at least once before flashing, except for the hardcore who unbox the phone and then immediately flash!
andybones said:
Vanir, Liquid, CM, I personally find them all to have basically the same issues/flaws/success'
so whatever is going on in one ROM is usually going on in the others.
GPS works find on all like mentioned as long as you get a Sense GPS lock first then you are set.
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GPS can be a bit flaky on HTC phones that have flashed AOSP for years now. Your best bet is get a full GPS lock in Maps, reboot into Recovery and then flash your AOSP Rom. I have also had good luck with various GPS apps that let you flush the AGPS data. Now GPS seems to always work better on Sense Roms
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Just flash the gpe ROM and be happy
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t3project said:
Just flash the gpe ROM and be happy
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Good idea unless you want to use your camera. Solid ROM but it basically locks up my phone for 3-5 minutes when I even try to take a picture. Have tried 3rd party camera apps as well. No issues with GPS/WiFi and while data shows "roaming" it really is not roaming. The newest update based on 4.4.3 is sweet but I need a functioning camera.
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GPS can be a bit flaky on HTC phones that have flashed AOSP for years now. Your best bet is get a full GPS lock in Maps, reboot into Recovery and then flash your AOSP Rom. I have also had good luck with various GPS apps that let you flush the AGPS data. Now GPS seems to always work better on Sense Roms
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This sounds like some weird voodoo to me, yet totally believable since I've seen enough things work when they shouldn't that I recognise the weird solutions are usually the stuff worth trying.
That said, how does it work? Wouldn't any values saved when you grabbed a GPS fix in Sense be lost when you wipe System etc?
Confused...
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Edit: Think I understand now the logic - you do your ROM, then Nandroid back to Sense, lock the GPS, then Nandroid back to AOSP. That said, I still don't get how this magic works.
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Just flash the gpe ROM and be happy
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Now I have to eat my words. Since the Camera fix the 4.4.3 GPE has been rock solid for me. No Wifi issues, no issues with speaker phone, really smooth. Still a cosmetic issue of the phone showing in Roaming even though it's not. There is a modified systemUI.apk that shows "LTE" as well.
GPE for VZ is really getting there. Xposed working well and Gravity box has everything working that I use.
How different is GPE from just overlaying Nova or Apex over Sense?
godhamba said:
How different is GPE from just overlaying Nova or Apex over Sense?
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To me a lot different. It's as close to a "pure Google" experience as you can get. While Sense 6 is better, it still an add-on on the base Kit Kat OS that brings overhead with it and a lot of forced applications you may not want/need.
With Xposed and a few modules, you can customize the way you want but still keep the overhead of the operating system at a minimum. It's not for everyone. If you want all customization's built into a single ROM, GPE is not for you.
And I never used the built in Blinkfeed launcher. From day 1 I used Apex. It has been my launcher for well over 3 years. Sense is a lot more than just the launcher.