[Q] GSM-based location - HTC One SV

Hello,
My problem is that the phone does not locate its approx. right position when signed in gsm network. There are some applications which need this info e.g. weather apps. or apps relating to public traffic.
I do not want to keep gps or wifi on at all times and consuming battery life in an intensive way.
Earlier this function worked fine with HTC one V. But today it does not work with HTC One SV. Is this problem about settings or hardware malfunction? Is it a known issue anyway?
thanks for help,
Steven
HTC One SV
Android 4.1.2
HTC Sense 4+
HTC SDK 4.65

It's not a known issue, no. Everything's fine on my SV, also on my girlfriend's. Also, it should work flawlessly out of the box; you shouldn't need to alter any setting for GSM location to work.
Maybe there's an issue with your provider?

TVTV said:
It's not a known issue, no. Everything's fine on my SV, also on my girlfriend's. Also, it should work flawlessly out of the box; you shouldn't need to alter any setting for GSM location to work.
Maybe there's an issue with your provider?
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Are you sure about it? If you enter google maps with no gps on the phone is able to find your position?
Browsing internet I am begining to convince myself that Android 4.1 does not include mobile-cell-based location.

have you enabled google location settings?

ipit said:
have you enabled google location settings?
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Sure. It ticked all the option except for gps. But it locates position only with gps. Google map, weather app etc do not work with gps off.

szitya1980 said:
Sure. It ticked all the option except for gps. But it locates position only with gps. Google map, weather app etc do not work with gps off.
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Google maps is showing my location without GPS, so i think it should basicly work for you too!

szitya1980 said:
Are you sure about it? If you enter google maps with no gps on the phone is able to find your position?
Browsing internet I am begining to convince myself that Android 4.1 does not include mobile-cell-based location.
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Yes, i am sure about it. If i run GMaps with an active mobile internet connection, it is able to pinpoint my location without any issues whatsoever. I'm running the stock version of HTC's latest firmware, no root, no S-OFF.

TVTV said:
Yes, i am sure about it. If i run GMaps with an active mobile internet connection, it is able to pinpoint my location without any issues whatsoever. I'm running the stock version of HTC's latest firmware, no root, no S-OFF.
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Yesterday i updated to 4.2.2 and now it functions normally and picks locaton on gsm cell. Interesting that it did not work with 4.1.2.

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GPS Not working after 1.5 update

I have updated to the 1.5 and eversince my GPS doesn't work...when i click on maps and my location the signal for gps doesn't come on and when i select my location it says it is unable to determine my location because the gps never comes up.....i have searched for this answer but have not found anything...any help?
kn0582 said:
I have updated to the 1.5 and eversince my GPS doesn't work...when i click on maps and my location the signal for gps doesn't come on and when i select my location it says it is unable to determine my location because the gps never comes up.....i have searched for this answer but have not found anything...any help?
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did you enable GPS in settings? It's disabled by default.
GPS on my phone since 1.5 has been 10x better than before. aGPS ftw.
mine seems to be working fine. have you updated your radio?
yeah i did enable the settings and i have not updated the radio is that the update from HTC on the Dude 1.5 thread?
My gps picks up my location allooooot faster with the new radio too.
kn0582 said:
yeah i did enable the settings and i have not updated the radio is that the update from HTC on the Dude 1.5 thread?
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could be, i have no club about the dude's though, im using Haykuro's ADP1.5 and updated my radio. You probably should do it if you can, it MAY fix your problem and it wont hurt anything.
all the radios posted are the same
it doesnt matter what build you are one
the radio is for the cupcake rom aka 1.5
so go ahead and update your radio
and if your gps is still giving you problems and wipe will be the best bet
just rmr to back up
I believe 1.5 supports A-GPS, which uses external servers (accessed over the data connection) to help speed up GPS initialization and in some cases calculations. This does leak some location data off the phone though, if you care about this.
Okay thanks for the suggestions i will try to do this today and see what happens...
uta8111 said:
I believe 1.5 supports A-GPS, which uses external servers (accessed over the data connection) to help speed up GPS initialization and in some cases calculations. This does leak some location data off the phone though, if you care about this.
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Is there anyway to use the old method? What about us users without a data plan? That kills the GPS for us.
I had the same problem when I updated my phone to JF1.51. I just wiped and re-installed. Now my GPS is faster then ever.
You are not alone
I have updated my radio and spl, enabled gps, and still it takes 30 minutes for the phone to find my location. I have asked on occasion about this, and a few others have had the same problem. So I don't know what to tell you. Glad I could be no help to you.
To speed up GPS location, the new updates also include aGPS, a = assisted.
This is when it will utilise your internet connection via wifi or 3G/EDGE to triangulate your position between transmission towers to help give a rough estimate as to where you are in the world, giving the actual GPS unit a headstart in locating where you are.
You would need to enable this though. Settings > Security & Location > Use wireless networks. Also make sure Enable GPS Satellites is enabled too.
Cell location (without gps) seems to be broken with 3g in 1.5. If I switch to edge, I get my approximate location every time.
But if I use 3g, google maps rarely finds my location, unless I turn on gps.
What build are you using? I've had no problems with Dude's ROM personally as previously I was on JF before taking the jump to a more updated and heavily optimised ROM. Could be worth trying it out if you are still on JF.
I have the same problem, now I can only use GPS with wireless connection.
If I untick the wireless option, the GPS become useless.
I'm using Rogers v3 rom, latest radio and SPL, can anyone help us to solve the problem?
kn0582 said:
yeah i did enable the settings and i have not updated the radio is that the update from HTC on the Dude 1.5 thread?
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I can't remember if 1.5 had this, but I think it did. Did you get a prompt when you enabled it via settings (not through a second hand app, actually through the internal settings)? My GPS didn't work until I went in and disabled/reenabled both the Cell and GPS location services. When I did this, I got a prompt from Google to agree to terms (or whatever) and after selecting - whamo. Worked.

[Q] GPS location based off of your android phone or wifi?

when i'm at home using the Trans hooked up to my home wifi. Is the locaton based off of the wifi or my android phone?
E46M3 said:
when i'm at home using the Trans hooked up to my home wifi. Is the locaton based off of the wifi or my android phone?
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I believe it's from your home wifi, at least mine is. I think I enabled the option within google.
Doesn't the tranny have GPS built in?
UKseagull said:
I believe it's from your home wifi, at least mine is. I think I enabled the option within google.
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hmm.. so what happens if your trans is at home idling and you're out with your phone and your friends have you on their latitude? which one does it pick up?
rehughe said:
Doesn't the tranny have GPS built in?
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It does.
Funny thing, Viewsonic gtablet had neither GPS nor GSM positioning yet is was capable of getting exact location if tethered to Nexus One!
I will try if this still works with TF (positioning with GPS off).
E46M3 said:
hmm.. so what happens if your trans is at home idling and you're out with your phone and your friends have you on their latitude? which one does it pick up?
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Good point, this has happened to me before and latitude showed me as being at home when someone was using my pc. You'd expect latitude to use the location from whichever device used the service last, at least I would expect that
I forgot all about the gps, I don't usually enable it with latitude.
If I remember right, the GPS coordinates are actually embedded in the wifi signal on some GPS enabled wifi devices like the MiFi devices. So I won't be surprised if the phones are doing something similar when you tether to them too.
cl191 said:
If I remember right, the GPS coordinates are actually embedded in the wifi signal on some GPS enabled wifi devices like the MiFi devices. So I won't be surprised if the phones are doing something similar when you tether to them too.
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I'm pretty sure my WiFi AP that I bought in 2003 doesn't have GPS or anything of the sort in it. Haven't tethered to my Droid X yet either. Yet when I pull up Maps at home or at work, Google knows where I am.
I believe they've gathered enough data from devices that have location services and WiFi enabled to have a bit of a database of what WiFi network is located where. That's not a bad thing, I'm just sayin that Google can generally know where you are based on what WiFi network you're connected to.
there is an online lookup service for gps coords for wifi routers. It is user modifiyable . Some how the coords of my router got corruptted and I had to go in and correct them when you location services based on router, the app goes to the lookup site and gets the coords. If not in database, wil not locate
cl191 said:
If I remember right, the GPS coordinates are actually embedded in the wifi signal on some GPS enabled wifi devices like the MiFi devices. So I won't be surprised if the phones are doing something similar when you tether to them too.
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If this is the case, I'd love to see some references.
Here's my understanding - Android devices generally have 3 ways of locating themselves.
One is cell tower triangulation. It is the least accurate, but has the best chance of providing a location so long as the device has cell signal.
Another is WiFi signal triangulation. Google devices (and Google streetview cars) collect data about nearby WiFi networks and send that data back to Google along with the coordinates where it was found (aka, all of the news story lately about apple and Google tracking people). If your device needs to know where it is, it can tell Google what WiFi SSIDs it detects and the Google servers tell the device where it thinks it is. This method is much more accurate than cell triangulation.
Lastly, there's GPS. It is the most accurate, but only works if your device has line of sight to the sky. It usually works near Windows as well.
If you go into settings>location on your device you can enable/disable cell, wifi, or GPS location. On my phone cell and wifi triangulation are lumped under "use wireless networks".
so tje navigation system is prety much useless on transfo when you are out on the road with no wifi? something dont sound right, or am i missing it altohether?
ipulaski said:
so tje navigation system is prety much useless on transfo when you are out on the road with no wifi? something dont sound right, or am i missing it altohether?
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I believe this has already been answered in another thread, but: if you have navigation software that loads maps locally (e.g., CoPilot), then you can use the TF without a wifi signal. Also, if you create a route using Google Navigation, it will cache your route and as long as you don't deviate from it too greatly (to where it would require update information) then you could also use that without wifi.
In short, the TF has a GPS capable of standalone use, but requires mapping data to perform navigation.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Not to mention every other tablet or cellphone is equally useless without a data connection unless you have, as noted above, locally stored mapping software installed or a cached GM route. It's not a Transformer issue, it's a non-dedicated GPS device issue.

Weather Widget Not Showing Current Location...

Over the last week or so the Weather widget and app show my Current Location to be 'United Kingdom' rather than the city I am in.
I have tried refreshing many times, updated location on Google Maps and even reflashed my rom but still no luck. Has anyone had this problem and know a fix for it?
Many thanks.
Have you already clear data from Google Maps, Clock Widget, Weather, HTC weather sync provider and Weather Provider? After you delete all of these data, then try to update your location in google map by GPS and mobile data.
likuku said:
Have you already clear data from Google Maps, Clock Widget, Weather, HTC weather sync provider and Weather Provider? After you delete all of these data, then try to update your location in google map by GPS and mobile data.
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Tried everything suggestd but still no luck. Added the clock widget from Beautiful Widgets to see if this would make any difference but this widget just says "Null" instead of "United Kingdom"
dr9722 said:
Over the last week or so the Weather widget and app show my Current Location to be 'United Kingdom' rather than the city I am in.
I have tried refreshing many times, updated location on Google Maps and even reflashed my rom but still no luck. Has anyone had this problem and know a fix for it?
Many thanks.
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I have the same problem. Wrote about it some days ago. It shows only Finland. Installed beautiful widgets, changed weather provider to : google, now it's fine.
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dr9722 said:
Tried everything suggestd but still no luck. Added the clock widget from Beautiful Widgets to see if this would make any difference but this widget just says "Null" instead of "United Kingdom"
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Did Google map detect your location while using GPS and mobile data?
likuku said:
Did Google map detect your location while using GPS and mobile data?
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Yes Google Maps shows my exact location with no problems (GPS and Mobile Data).
Ive done what invisiblebm has done and change the weather provider to Google in BW and now the widget is fine but it still shows UK on the weather lock screen
I'm having the same problem and I've done all the above steps too.
If you open the htc weather app and press more details online, it will load the web browser with correct location.
Therefore, I think the problem is kernel/rom related.
Btw, I'm running the Virtuous Rom with the 1.6 beta6 Brick kernel.
Since ARHD 4.1.7+Bricked v1.5 I have ever got the same problem too, but after I tried a solution from above reply that I have wrote.It's works fine for me.
abs_rio said:
I'm having the same problem and I've done all the above steps too.
If you open the htc weather app and press more details online, it will load the web browser with correct location.
Therefore, I think the problem is kernel/rom related.
Btw, I'm running the Virtuous Rom with the 1.6 beta6 Brick kernel.
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I think you may be right. This only started happening to me when I moved from ARHD 3.6x to ARHD 4.1x. Is Virtuous Rom with Sense 3.5?
Im wondering if the problem is Sense 3.5 releated?
No it uses Sense 3.0
I'm going to try stock kernel and see if it makes any difference.
dr9722 said:
Yes Google Maps shows my exact location with no problems (GPS and Mobile Data).
Ive done what invisiblebm has done and change the weather provider to Google in BW and now the widget is fine but it still shows UK on the weather lock screen
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Did you changed the weather provider from BW not from any HTC weather app?
abs_rio said:
No it uses Sense 3.0
I'm going to try stock kernel and see if it makes any difference.
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Think it may be more Rom related that Kernel. Ive been using Bricked 1.5 for a while now and it always use to work.
Please report back though if you find stock fixes it. Does yours always show the country or does it sometimes report the correct city? Mine seems to be very intermittent...
Now this is really strange. I've tried this on both stock and bricked kernel.
I followed all the steps in post 2. I had to go outside to get gps signal in google maps, and it showed the correct location in weather widget.
However, when i go back inside, the location is back to United Kingdom. It seems as though a constant gps signal is required in the background.
This was never the case on the stock rom.
likuku said:
Did you changed the weather provider from BW not from any HTC weather app?
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I only changed the weather provider in BW. As far as im aware you cannot change it for the HTC app.
abs_rio said:
Now this is really strange. I've tried this on both stock and bricked kernel.
I followed all the steps in post 2. I had to go outside to get gps signal in google maps, and it showed the correct location in weather widget.
However, when i go back inside, the location is back to United Kingdom. It seems as though a constant gps signal is required in the background.
This was never the case on the stock rom.
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Something very weird is going on. Im at work at the moment and it's showing the correct location but I know as soon as I get home tonight it will change back to United Kingdom. Perhaps its a problem with Accuweather?
If it is rom related then I guess the only way to test this theory is to go back to stock and see if this makes any difference.
dr9722 said:
Im at work at the moment and it's showing the correct location but I know as soon as I get home tonight it will change back to United Kingdom.
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Spoke to soon......just changed back to United Kingdom after a refresh!
Think I may be getting somewhere here.
With WiFi connected weather shows as United Kingdom - with WiFi disconnected weather shows correct location.
Can someone else test this to make sure...
I do have a nand backup of the stock rom which came with the phone. Contemplating whether to give it a try!
EDIT:
Just saw your post now. When you disconnect the WIFI is your data connection then turned on?
abs_rio said:
I do have a nand backup of the stock rom which came with the phone. Contemplating whether to give it a try!
EDIT:
Just saw your post now. When you disconnect the WIFI is your data connection then turned on?
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Yes once WiFi is disconnected the mobile data comes back and correct location is shown.
Yea the same happens with me, with the data connection it reports correct location.
abs_rio said:
Yea the same happens with me, with the data connection it reports correct location.
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How strange. I cant say I have ever noticed this before - Im sure I would have as I use WiFi all the time so I wonder if it is a recent bug.
Well at least we got to the bottom of it!

[Q] Gps / location services

Sorry I couldn't find the exact match with my issue so I thought of creating a new thread.
I updated my Xperia Neo ROM but I'm having difficulties with GPS/LOCATON service. It works fine on a 3G network but it couldn't load my location whenever I am connected to a wifi network. I've tried using different apps on my phone but still wouldn't work. It just keeps on searching/loading.
It used to work fine before with stock ICS 4.0.4 ROM/KERNEL. Is switching back the only fix? Please help. :crying:
I have the same issue, gps location is not working for my new rom either (unoffical jellaxy cymod 10 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875015) is there a fix/patch to flash??!
djrsa said:
I have the same issue, gps location is not working for my new rom either (unoffical jellaxy cymod 10 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875015) is there a fix/patch to flash??!
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GPS on wifi is now working on my NEO. I think it's my wifi connection or just my area.
A possible cause and fix
PrinceRayman said:
Sorry I couldn't find the exact match with my issue so I thought of creating a new thread.
I updated my Xperia Neo ROM but I'm having difficulties with GPS/LOCATON service. It works fine on a 3G network but it couldn't load my location whenever I am connected to a wifi network. I've tried using different apps on my phone but still wouldn't work. It just keeps on searching/loading.
It used to work fine before with stock ICS 4.0.4 ROM/KERNEL. Is switching back the only fix? Please help. :crying:
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Remember that Android has 3 different location services:
Real GPS, this requires only the ability to "see" the sky where the GPS locations are flying over your head, plus up to 15 minutes to download the weekly schedule of where they are flying (the 15 minute download can be replaced by a 5 second web download, but you will still need the 1.5 to 3 minute download of latest updates). Additionally, it may waste a few extra minutes looking for the wrong satellites if it things you are in a different part of the world than you are (this depends on the rom, radio firmware and GPS chip).
Cell tower location service: This sends the number of the nearest 2G/3G/4G to an online service which looks up where that tower is, giving a rough location.
Wi-Fi access point location service: This sends the name and/or MAC address of the nearest Wi-Fi access point to a Google service, which returns where other users were last time they saw that Wi-Fi access point with GPS on and Google Maps Wi-Fi location sharing on.
From this I guess one of 2 things are wrong:
:silly:Your Wi-Fi network is not in Google's database (unlikely since it was recognized with your previous firmware).
The option to share Wi-Fi location data with Google maps is off after the update, :fingers-crossed:try turning it off, then on.

Gps issues can't find a single sattelite with GPS

Hey Guys
I am using now my Desire s for 1.5 year. Before i rooted my Desire s. The gps just Works fine... No issiue or anything wrong. After root gps won't work... I tried every custom and stock rom but still my gps wont show my possesion in sygic or Any gps app. Iam looking for a sulotion. Could someone please help...
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Location Acsess
Make sure that location access is ON in the settings.
Also this patch might help you. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442032&highlight=gps+patch
tech_gooner said:
Make sure that location access is ON in the settings.
Also this patch might help you. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442032&highlight=gps+patch
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I flashed the patch but the gps still won't work
Maybe this helps
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Kingdomds said:
I flashed the patch but the gps still won't work
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try this thread,it has the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442032
hope it works on your DS
sorry gor my english. :silly:
Nope.... the problem is it can't find any satellites....
And i want offline gps works. not online AGPS.
tried this one twice but still my gps can't find any satellites
I am in the same situation. My GPS used to work and then it stopped. I can't even remember what I flashed or whether it stopped straight after rooting.
I've tried a whole lot of different ROMs (JB/ICS/GB, AOSP/Sense) so its not a ROM issue. I've used the AGPS patch and all those other GPS apps that are supposed to diagnose and fix the GPS, non have worked. I have eventually put it down to a hardware fault and conceded that my GPS will not work.
I'm not wondering about flashing another radio. Will that make any difference ?
No, radio has nothing to do with GPS. If it's faulty - it might just be a disconnected antenna.
Enable data
I know its not the perfect solution but by enabling mobile data and the GPS you do get a precise fix on your location and it barely drains your allowance.
Mobile data doesn't affect GPS. All it does - it enables downloading almanac and ephemeris (satellite path charts, that tell the GPS where to look and for which satellites) instantly from the dedicated internet servers, and it also allows more precise clock synchronization - all that to make the lock faster. It doesn't help maintaining the lock.
And even without mobile data, at least 1-2 satellites should be visible almost immediately.

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