Google Apps on RT - Microsoft Surface

Why gmail, drive, calendar, etc. doesn't work good on ie app and desktop?
Eg. With ie app i can't download attachments!
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You answered your own question.
Microsoft will write their own APIs for the Metro/Modern interface to gain a favorable advantage to their own products. They wouldn't want you to be saving your documents in Google Drive or updating your Gmail calendar/contacts.
For that functionality, you would have to use the desktop edition of Google Chrome (but this is besides the point of using Windows 8 as opposed to Windows 7).
Microsoft like Apple will do things to make it difficult for Google to become "compliant" in being able to write apps (as opposed to desktop applications) for the Metro interface.

Uh, Gmail and Google Docs work fine for me in (desktop) IE10 (RT 8.0) and IE11. Not sure about the "modern" mode of IE; seriously, you would have to pay me handsomely to make me use that garbage when there's a full-featured browser built into the OS.

GoodDayToDie said:
Uh, Gmail and Google Docs work fine for me in (desktop) IE10 (RT 8.0) and IE11. Not sure about the "modern" mode of IE;
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Same here, Google apps works just fine in IE10 on my Surface RT (8.0). I'm not sure I've tried it in the modern mode either, but the desktop browser works great. There is also a Google search store app that you also use to access them, but I've found that to be slower than the browser and stopped using it.
There are no desktop sync programs for RT of course (or whatever is available for typical desktop windows).

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[Q] Request: Android GMAIL app for WinMo?

I just moved back to WinMo after a while on Android, and already I miss the fluidity of the native Gmail and contact apps, and how they sync flawlessly and look so very good..
I would love to see these apps on Windows Mobile, a proper, native Gmail app (not a terrible JAR) which would relinquish the need to rely on the outdated pocket outlook.
Is this feasible?
to my knowledge, there is no gmail application for windows mobile like you're requesting.
However, gmail offers sync for windows mobile email, contacts, and calender. It works flawlessly just like it works on android,
here's instructions on how to get this working, very simple.
I could not add an outside link that'll show you the steps,
but you can just google "google sync for windows mobile" and its right there the first link at the top of the page.
I understand having the gmail that android phones have would be nicer, but it is not available, I don't think google will make it for phones other than their android supported ones.
Good luck
Moved as not software release.

I need onenote mobile for android

Microsoft just released onenote for ios . Very surprising...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/18/micro...:+TheBoyGeniusReport+(BGR+|+Boy+Genius+Report)
Wish they would release one for android
Am a big fan of onenote
Is any one thinking of developing one ???
It's great! Waiting...
Mobilenoter just recently hit the Android Market.
Namuna said:
Mobilenoter just recently hit the Android Market.
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Mobilenoter is a bit rubbish. Sync is expensive, and almost impossible to set up so it actually works. The SE edition avoids sync - but is a pay app and is only a viewer. We need a proper MS app.
Not sure if it has the same functionality, but I have evernote on my Galaxy tab, my HD2 and my PCs, and it's pretty much flawless.
Edit: Okay, I've checked and evernote does everything that I can see onenote doing, and more.
Nthing Evernote, probably your best bet for Android note-taking. Microsoft's stance re: Android is a bit... cautious, so I wouldn't hold your breath for OneNote.
I haven't used my droid and onenote but i do use Evernote. Syncs well between my droid and computer. Allows picts, voice recordings, etc.
i think onenote is much more advanced note taking program. Just cannot compare to evernote. I use both and both have very different fns.
Since microsoft released one for apple , i wish they release for andorid too..
Anyone know the latest on this?
I've recently tried to get into OneNote because my life consists of several different legal pads with my chicken scratch and no effective overall organization...I'd LOVE to start using OneNote, but it's value diminishes if I can't both access AND edit on my EVO 3D.
That said, so far it looks like my choices and their corresponding negatives are:
(1) Use OneNote on my PC and MobileNoter on my Android
-As noted above, the problem here is that the "free" MobileNoter requires an expensive sync service and is buggy, and the $8 up-front version only lets you VIEW and not EDIT..
--Why the **** are those our choices?? literally ALL I need here is a way to view and edit on my phone...I can SEND and RECEIVE the OneNote file MYSELF using my dropbox/skybox etc. Is the "free" MobileNoter LOCKED or something? What I mean is that if MobileNoter has the ability to edit OneNOte files, then it should be GOOD to GO and I can simply pull files from my own cloud services and upload them back after editing...but it looks like I can't even ACCESS MobileNoter's functionality w/o signing up for and installing it's "sync client"....?? I'm assuming it was simply done this way for the developer to make money, ya?
(2) EverNote
-Some here say not as good as OneNote, and I tend to agree
-$5/month....right??
So IMHO, all we really need is an EDITOR...I don't really mind manually uploading to cloud from my PC and mobile, then having to open that file and save over old versions once I hop on my other device....
panamaniac said:
--Why the **** are those our choices?? literally ALL I need here is a way to view and edit on my phone...I can SEND and RECEIVE the OneNote file MYSELF using my dropbox/skybox etc. Is the "free" MobileNoter LOCKED or something? What I mean is that if MobileNoter has the ability to edit OneNOte files, then it should be GOOD to GO and I can simply pull files from my own cloud services and upload them back after editing...but it looks like I can't even ACCESS MobileNoter's functionality w/o signing up for and installing it's "sync client"....?? I'm assuming it was simply done this way for the developer to make money, ya?
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MobileNoter (the app that is free in Android Market and requires the Windows Sync Client for sync with OneNote) and MobileNoter SE (the one that costs $8 and can sync with Dropbox and SkyDrive) are two different applications. Though they have the same GUI and look similar to user, they are different from the technical point of view.
MobileNoter uses the same sync mechanism as the iPhone version of the app, which had arrived in 2009. At that time that was the easiest way to establish synchronization with OneNote. Also, because the license check was performed on the server side it allowed (and allows) users to change their phone or PC and not to lose their license.
MobileNoter SE is a completely new app that can work with *.one files by itself and doesnt require any additional software. It doesn't have page editing capabilities yet only because that part of application code cannot be taken from the original MobileNoter, so it is still in development. In MobileNoter SE 2.0 editing features will appear.
I understand that they're two different applications, and I understand their different capabilities--I just didn't and don't get why I can't just use MobileNoter (not SE) without using the sync client at all--in other words, just use the program for its editing capabilities, and then upload/sync my files on my own.
Guess I'll be waiting for MobileNoter SE 2.0.....
OneNote is my go-to app in Win7; the others don't compare. I use catch notes to make quickies, then manually add them to OneNote when I get home. sigh.
I also bought into mobilenoter early on, and they're decent people, but the app just isn't much more than a viewer. When I have been able to make notes on my phone and sync them back to my network, it was jibberish. (Anyone else have that issue?)
But I recently started using Windows Live from android, and I love it; bookmark the calendar, you've got a syncing calendar app that's not google (I'm all for competition!)
And it SEEMS there should be a way to access/use my SkyDrive (ie, ONE NOTE!) web apps from a browser, but no luck so far w/ stock or Dolphin broswer.
Is there an app [yet] for using the Live web apps? Because then we'd be able to access our ON notebooks (and hopefully edit them!) with a freakin bookmark link!
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Guess I'll be waiting for MobileNoter SE 2.0.....
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MobileNoter SE 2.0 is released and is already available in Android Market.
jonathanljs said:
Mobilenoter is a bit rubbish. Sync is expensive, and almost impossible to set up so it actually works. The SE edition avoids sync - but is a pay app and is only a viewer. We need a proper MS app.
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I totally agree Mobilenoter is hopeless it only seems to find half my notes and not being able to create a note is next to usless.
I don't understand MS' unwillingness to make an Android client.
They make more $ on Android phone sales than they do on WP7 phone sales.
I tried mobilenoter synced with skydrive, it works but errors out if you have images inserted....
I use onenote on both win 7 tablet and work pc synced with skydrive. Had to create a section just for android and sync that and not use images. Pretty limiting when i cant use images.
mangoman said:
I tried mobilenoter synced with skydrive, it works but errors out if you have images inserted....
I use onenote on both win 7 tablet and work pc synced with skydrive. Had to create a section just for android and sync that and not use images. Pretty limiting when i cant use images.
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Such problems can occur if you use OneNote 2007, because MobileNoter SE is designed for OneNote 2010.
i was using onenote 2010,- does not like images at all with skydrive.
at last onenote android is on market but only for 2.3+
and I don't want to void my waenty on my new phone but it runs well on 2.3 mod on my Vodafone 845.
Mobilenoter can read ink notes but sync fails on images and is v....e.....r.....y... slow with skydrive.
MS onenote can sync images and fast but doesn`t read ink.
But isn't this typical with software.

[Q] Setting own alternative to Google Apps (e.g Docs, Calanda)

Hi there,
Currently, I run my own email / web server and have done so for many years. I would like to store data in the 'cloud' (really a cool name for a server in a date centre), but my users and myself certainly do not trust Google with our data.
The Question
I would like to know if there is any server side software that can offer an equivalent to the account tie-in that is with the google accounts on the Android O/S.
The details
All devices would run CyanogenMod (a bunch of Nexus Ses), and as such would be devoid of Google apps like the Market. I notice on other Android devices, these can have an account integrated into the phone, and said phone can then use this account (typically a gmail address) to hook into the Google Docs, Google Calendar, Contacts and the Google Wiki: These are the types of programmes that I wish to run on our server, and link in with the account as I described afore.
Is there any software (paid or open source) already available that could do some of this?
Many thanks in advance.
Best regards.
forgetmyname said:
Hi there,
Currently, I run my own email / web server and have done so for many years. I would like to store data in the 'cloud' (really a cool name for a server in a date centre), but my users and myself certainly do not trust Google with our data.
The Question
I would like to know if there is any server side software that can offer an equivalent to the account tie-in that is with the google accounts on the Android O/S.
The details
All devices would run CyanogenMod (a bunch of Nexus Ses), and as such would be devoid of Google apps like the Market. I notice on other Android devices, these can have an account integrated into the phone, and said phone can then use this account (typically a gmail address) to hook into the Google Docs, Google Calendar, Contacts and the Google Wiki: These are the types of programmes that I wish to run on our server, and link in with the account as I described afore.
Is there any software (paid or open source) already available that could do some of this?
Many thanks in advance.
Best regards.
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There is no way to modify the google apps really (closed source), so you would need to totally write it all from scratch...
But... what would you be wanting? Exchange sync via activesync gives you a calendar and mailbox with push via stock "Email" app.
I am a bit unsure what you are trying to do, but if you rent a VPS or dedicated server in a datacenter, and pay for Windows Server 2008/R2 on it, you could then buy Microsoft Exchange, or perhaps get Server SBS, and connect the devices to the Exchange server?
That would give you email and calendar support (both very good as well). Same for contacts - it syncs them. I am not aware of a "google wiki" you refer to though...
Hi,
Thank-you for your reply, especially during the week-end.
>There is no way to modify the google apps really (closed source), so you would need to totally write it all from scratch...
Modifying GoogleApps nor re-inventing the wheel is not my goal. I only want to add an account (I notice that one can integrate Facebook and Google within Android so maybe this is something I can explore).
>I am a bit unsure what you are trying to do, but if you rent a VPS or dedicated server in a datacenter, and pay for Windows Server 2008/R2 on it, you could then buy Microsoft Exchange, or perhaps get Server SBS, and connect the devices to the Exchange server?
We already have our own server(s) in a data centre.
Regarding for your Windows suggestion
Our Debian servers run postfix/dovecot/roundcube very well and with incredibly stability. These have run for nearly 1 year without the need for a single reboot other than for kernel patches. We have upgraded all aforementioned programmes during this time. (Although we'll move to Debian Squeeze soon which'll need a rebuild somewhere). No reason to move away from something so stable to Windows, and then have to pay for it.
Alternatives
I found OpenGoo (now known as Feng) as an alternative. It provides the equivalent of Google Calendar, Google Contacts, Google Docs among other things, although I am unsure how to integrate this into Android. Using a web based front end would be annoying for people I sent an Email to the Feng offices asking if there was any proposed Android integration.
Best wishes.
I did a little more digging, and there are other possibilities. However these will allrequire some method of integrating these with Android clients:
Ubuntu One's Eucalyptus server. These is an Android client for Ubuntu One, so hopefully this'll be available for Eucalyptus at some point.
http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/eucalyptus
project-lipsync
This offers some contacts and calendar sync using rsync over SSH. A simple solution, but a client has to be written for Android, which would be no more than a one button widget that syncs the sqlite dB back to the server for contacts and calendar. Perhaps a documents dir could be added. Still work in progress.
SparkleShare
Looks like there might be quite a bit of work in progress. Uses git for access.
http://www.sparkleshare.org/
https://github.com/SparkleShare/SparkleShare-Android

[Q] Google oriented services?

Hi all,
I have been Android user for about 2-3 years and have own Google Apps domain and services.
I am really liking Nokia Lumia 800, one of reasons also is that I am Windows developer and using Windows Phone makes sense for me, as I can support Windows Phone as well.
What I am worried is how to use Google services on WP7.5. How do you sync contacts with Google Apps, IMAP emails, calendar? Most used services right now on my phone.
1. Is there a live contacts update as android? Or just plain CSV import/export?
2. IMAP? Works well with labes as well? I have around 40-50 labels for different companies
3. Calendar sync? Same as #1?
Or is this phone primarily aimed at MS services like exchange, skydrive and others and if I want to keep google apps I should just stick to android.
Thank you for your opinions.
From what I heard, Google users with windows phone don't have any problems with syncing, although the only drawback is that multiple calendars aren't support yet, but can be done by adding multiple Google accounts (seems pointless).
Since you are a windows developer, you can use your primary live ID to windows phone to use microsoft services, and add your google account with the stuff you already have such as contacts, calendar, email. For cloud storage, the default will obviously be skydrive (7GB).
About the first question, if you are talking about Google+, then no, windows phone only shows contact updates from twitter, facebook and linkedin.
Google mail, contacts, and calendar sync seamlessly with wp 7.5. Also govoice works perfect for Google voice. I've had NO issues bringing my Google services over as I develop for windows also. I have an HTC radar I use along with my SGSII. I also have been with Android since Android 1.5 and found using windows phone fun. Good luck with your decision.
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Multiple calendars are supported
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537814
WP7 comes with a built-in template for Google accounts. By default, these sync calendar, mail and contacts, and they all sync automatically in real-time (or on a polling schedule, if you're concerned about the battery usage).
I believe it actually uses Google's implementation of ActiveSync (like Exchange) since that handles the various features under one protocol. You can certainly use IMAP as well, if you want to for some reason. Note that under both IMAP and EAS, Gmail will pretend your labels are folders. You can sync multiple folders just fine, and pin specific folders for one-click access.
That said, Android definitely has better support for Google stuff, unsurprisingly. The hardware search button goes to Bing. The phone offers integration with SkyDrive but not Google Drive, and Sharepoint but not Google Docs (although you may be able to use Google Docs via the browser; I haven't tried). Google+ works in the browser but is completely absent from the integrated social networking features. There are many third-party apps that support Google Talk quite well, but only the Facebook and Live mesaging networks are built into the phone.
Thank you all for responses.
I dont really care for Google+, Google Talk would be good (someone pointed that there is app already for it).
So it means that if I delete contact on WP7.5 it will immediately actualize Google App servers and contacts will be deleted for all other devices as well, right? Same for calendar (I use only one, no problem).
Are there any things I should be aware of? Mass storare is not much problem, what about car navigation? alternative to google my tracks?
Thanks.
The OS has a built-in navigation feature, but it's... limited (some would say crippled). It won't tell you as a turn approaches, or where to go next in general, unless you tap the screen.
There are plenty of navigation apps, though. I am, however, unfamiliar with "my tracks" so I'm not sure cow that compares.
feronovak said:
Thank you all for responses.
I dont really care for Google+, Google Talk would be good (someone pointed that there is app already for it).
So it means that if I delete contact on WP7.5 it will immediately actualize Google App servers and contacts will be deleted for all other devices as well, right? Same for calendar (I use only one, no problem).
Are there any things I should be aware of? Mass storare is not much problem, what about car navigation? alternative to google my tracks?
Thanks.
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Yes, WP7 immediately (or atleast within a few minutes) updates your Google calendar and contacts.

Getting setup with Windows Phone

I have just got my Windows phone and I really like the interface I'm very impressed I must say.
I want to get it setup and everything integrated but don't really know what's the best way to start.
I plan on getting Windows 8 and using that as my main OS so would like to keep everything as in sync as possible.
Currently I have everything with Google. That's calendar, contacts and email (Through Google Apps).
I want my email instantaneously on my phone and for the calendar/contacts/email to sync wirelessly and effortlessness across my PC and phone. I will be using the Metro interface on Windows 8 for email/calendar/contacts most likely.
What's the best way to go about this? Do I need to move my services to Microsoft? Can I even get my own email domain with Windows Live?
Thanks for any replies.
WP7 and Win8 will both have the ability to sync with Google services, including Gmail and Google Calendar and such (for WP7, use the built-in Google account template; for Win8 you'll need to enable IMAP access to your Gmail account). However, to get the full value out of WP7, you'll need to have a Windows Live account too, as that's what it'll tie app purchases and such to.
Also, some features of WP7 will only sync properly with Microsoft (Windows Live) services. For example, "cloud" syncing of documents is done over SkyDrive. The phone's browser is moderately capable of handling Google Docs, but there's no built-in support for that service and while you could download the docs to read or edit on the phone, the browser doesn't support file uploading so you couldn't send them back.
I believe it's possible to get your own domain through Windows Live services, but you'll probably have to pay a little for it. I don't think Google gives away domain names for free either though, right?
I only seem to be getting about 12 hours battery life (light use), is there anyway to increase this? (I know I can't physically get more battery life - I was thinking more tips and tricks). My Phone is the Nokia Lumia 710.
It's probably best that I stick with Windows Live if I can then, for the best integration possible.
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I believe it's possible to get your own domain through Windows Live services, but you'll probably have to pay a little for it. I don't think Google gives away domain names for free either though, right?
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Yeah I had to pay for my domain, but Google have Google Apps for free (so they manage my calendar, email, contacts, etc...)
Trust me. you definitely want to get a Windows Live account. They do have the option of making a windows live account out of your existing email, or you can just go ahead and make a new email. Google Docs is good, and all, but its not really supported on Windows phone, so you might want to check out your office hub and skydrive.
As far as your batter goes, if you are not using wifi/bluetooth/etc turn it off. Depending on what phone you have and the screen it has in it, having your background black or white can make a difference. Also set your screen brightness to automatic.

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