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Desktop synchronization of Android just like WM-phones

Hi friends,
Let me put these questions as simple as it can be -
1. is it possible for android to synchronize with the desktop computer
running Win XP?, if yes how? Wm phones can do it seamlessly using
MSActivesync.
2. is it possible to use the desktop's internet connection and browse
the web from the android? (just like WM-phones do with MS Activesync)
3. Is there a way to import all the Windows mobile contacts onto the
Android phone? NOT from google mail-account because I have different
contacts in my phone and gmail. And I would like to import my Phone
contacts onto Android.
THANKS to anyone who answers all/part of the queries.
arefin

arefin said:
Hi friends,
Let me put these questions as simple as it can be -
1. is it possible for android to synchronize with the desktop computer
running Win XP?, if yes how? Wm phones can do it seamlessly using
MSActivesync.
2. is it possible to use the desktop's internet connection and browse
the web from the android? (just like WM-phones do with MS Activesync)
3. Is there a way to import all the Windows mobile contacts onto the
Android phone? NOT from google mail-account because I have different
contacts in my phone and gmail. And I would like to import my Phone
contacts onto Android.
THANKS to anyone who answers all/part of the queries.
arefin
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1. Hopefully google would release a cloud based or an application that allows this, as it would make some lives a little easier.
2. I do not believe there is an app capable of this but it may be possible via bluetooth or use the desktop as an AP. Either way, i don't think you will get any better than you would off of wifi.
3. I found this off a quick search http://www.myhtcphone.com/import-contacts. Dont know if it works or not, but it seems to be like what you want.

1. use google calendar sync.
2. use adb port forwarding with proxy or vpn.
3. export your outlook contacts as csv and import them in gmail.

Not Really!
billc.cn said:
1. use google calendar sync.
2. use adb port forwarding with proxy or vpn.
3. export your outlook contacts as csv and import them in gmail.
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Google calender sync is at it says "for your calender only". No contacts. No idea why they can't just add it. Our lives would be so much easier.

I've had a friend report to me that Google has licensed the ActiveSync technology, so it may be added in a future build of the Android OS.
I believe that the "Hero" version that Haykuro is toying with currently also showed ActiveSync in one of the menus, but I can't vouch for that at the moment.
Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

TooSlo said:
I've had a friend report to me that Google has licensed the ActiveSync technology, so it may be added in a future build of the Android OS.
I believe that the "Hero" version that Haykuro is toying with currently also showed ActiveSync in one of the menus, but I can't vouch for that at the moment.
Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
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It's not ActiveSync, that's Microsoft's product. The new Hero build (as well as the stock Magic ROM) have a program called HTC Sync. I don't believe anyone has obtained a copy of the desktop software for that though.

it's two separate things.
google licensed activesync to allow ms exchange clients to sync with google calendar and gmail contacts (see http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html). you already have this on android.
the ms exchange option appeared in the mail app can only connect to ms exchange servers (not your desktop activesync clients) and can do email only.
htc sync is the only possiblility. (m$ won't be stupid enough to allow you to use activesync on any other platform.)

Your ideas of sync are outdated on Android.
My phone address book syncs to my gmail account, and my email clients address book syncs to gmail. My phone calander syncs to Google Cal, and I find the web based interface to work just fine. But I am sure you can find something to sync whatever your cal program is to google.
All this syncing happens when the phone is in my pocket and is always up to date.
As for browsing the web from the phone, over the usb connector, why? The phone has 3G and wifi.
You can import your contacts as a group into gmail, then set the phone to only display contacts from that group.

arefin said:
Hi friends,
Let me put these questions as simple as it can be -
1. is it possible for android to synchronize with the desktop computer
running Win XP?, if yes how? Wm phones can do it seamlessly using
MSActivesync.
2. is it possible to use the desktop's internet connection and browse
the web from the android? (just like WM-phones do with MS Activesync)
3. Is there a way to import all the Windows mobile contacts onto the
Android phone? NOT from google mail-account because I have different
contacts in my phone and gmail. And I would like to import my Phone
contacts onto Android.
THANKS to anyone who answers all/part of the queries.
arefin
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as everyone else is surely noticing .. google syncs better than the mickeysoft mousesync stuff other people use .. you are automatically synced to the google server and from there you can do anything .. i pull my calendar into outlook or anything else i want .. so .. what was the question again?!?

If you have no 'net connex, 'the cloud' does 2 things: jack & shizzle.
I do, however, wish I could keep my contacts synced with GMail (after my initial .cvs port-over). GCalSync works very well, though!
-bZj

PorchG1 said:
All this syncing happens when the phone is in my pocket and is always up to date.
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That's great, but I don't want to be beholden to a corporation, especially not to a single corp using closed protocols. If kinda defeats the purpose of having an open source phone for some of us. A mechanism to sync to my home server (not desktop), would certainly be welcomed.
PorchG1 said:
As for browsing the web from the phone, over the usb connector, why? The phone has 3G and wifi.
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Ever heard of wireline? I guess you can't conceive of being in an environment without wifi or 3G, they do exist you know? Not to mention that it would be nice to not always have to broadcast everything you do into the ether.

Thanks to everyone who responded
PorchG1 said:
Your ideas of sync are outdated on Android.
My phone address book syncs to my gmail account, and my email clients address book syncs to gmail. My phone calander syncs to Google Cal, and I find the web based interface to work just fine. But I am sure you can find something to sync whatever your cal program is to google.
All this syncing happens when the phone is in my pocket and is always up to date.
As for browsing the web from the phone, over the usb connector, why? The phone has 3G and wifi.
You can import your contacts as a group into gmail, then set the phone to only display contacts from that group.
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Yes, many of the suggestions sounds good for me. I am guessing many of you r not on Windows anymore. My problem is there, I am still on Windows just becoz I play lot of games, install a lots of programs which are only possible on win-ground. I do streaming - didnt find lot of freedom in this area on other OSs.
btw, I will apply your ideas considering them expert opinions becoz OI am just a noob in such things.
Thanks friends,

gSyncit Sync the calander and contacts....

arefin said:
Yes, many of the suggestions sounds good for me. I am guessing many of you r not on Windows anymore. My problem is there, I am still on Windows just becoz I play lot of games, install a lots of programs which are only possible on win-ground. I do streaming - didnt find lot of freedom in this area on other OSs.
btw, I will apply your ideas considering them expert opinions becoz OI am just a noob in such things.
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that didn't make much sense .. "not on Windows" anymore .. my primary OS is Microsoft for the same reason that there is a lot more freedom

MartinFick said:
That's great, but I don't want to be beholden to a corporation, especially not to a single corp using closed protocols. If kinda defeats the purpose of having an open source phone for some of us. A mechanism to sync to my home server (not desktop), would certainly be welcomed.
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Oh, you're not tied to Google. Android is made so that each of its apps can be replaced by a user-made app (of course, as with the lock screen, that's still in the process of being completed). There's a few calendar applications in the market that can do the same thing that the Google Calendar can. Or you could code your own/hire someone to do so.

I don't get G3. And Wifi is only at home. I am in Edge or GPRS most of the time. I was in GPRS when I typed that message. Syncing works just fine.
I can understand not wanting to trust your data to Google. Apps can read and write to the address book and cal. All somebody needs to do is make an on-line sync app.
After years of living with having to sync my palm, the "cloud" syncing Google provides is the next slice bread. But I do backup my phone, just in case.
I still don't see why you want to browse the web on your phone, wired to your laptop. Just use the laptop then. Or create an ad-hoc connection with ICS and do that over wireless.(Not tried it, but I assume it will work.)

MartinFick said:
That's great, but I don't want to be beholden to a corporation, especially not to a single corp using closed protocols. If kinda defeats the purpose of having an open source phone for some of us. A mechanism to sync to my home server (not desktop), would certainly be welcomed.
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When it starts working for the Android, you could use Funambol (http://www.funambol.com/) on your PC and get both a cloud sync (if you so choose) and a desktop sync. I used to use it to sync my SE P990.
The last time I checked, it wasn't working, but maybe it's fixed now.
http://code.google.com/p/funambol/

PorchG1 said:
I still don't see why you want to browse the web on your phone, wired to your laptop. Just use the laptop then.
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I can't speak for the original poster, but I often want to download stuff to my phone, apps, data, ... This is not surfing so to speak, but it still requires a connection. Sometimes wireless is not available for this.
os2baba said:
When it starts working for the Android, you could use Funambol (http://www.funambol.com/) on your PC and get both a cloud sync (if you so choose) and a desktop sync.
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Yes, thanks, I am familiar with that project. Unfortunately I refuse to run a 500MB RAM gorilla (I tried it, it really does use 500MB) on my home server (I run at least 10 virtual servers on my one PC) just to provide a sync framework for one phone. I will not sacrifice that much from the other real server applications that I use. Funambol is really not a good (sane) solution for individuals. I will be investigating the syncevolution framework soon.

[Q] A few questions about Skydrive + Windows Live Mesh

so I've been trying to figure out this whole "cloud" concept.
(1) Using Windows Live Mesh 2011, I'm able to keep folders on my pc synced in the cloud on my skydrive. However, am I able to access these documents from my handset?
(2) Do I have to manually upload documents onto my skydrive or is there some option in microsoft office/word to upload them?
(3) I guess it's impossible to upload document files from your handset to your skydrive
so what I don't get is, why did they decide to go into this whole "cloud" concept, only to have the "cloud" not work the way it should?

SkyDrive
I've been able to access SkyDrive from my WINDOWS 7 PHONE (HTC HD 7) I can view the files in SkyDrive, open up a document and read it/view etc. But I can't download them onto my handset, so i can edit them and such in MS Office on my phone. According to MS Office on the windows 7 phones, you gota use something called sharepoint.
Hope this helps.
:/

they don't have it properly intergrated into the office hub at present but rumour has it that it will come as part of the update. what you can do however is in IE visit skydrive.com, and from there view your skydrive, open files, edit them, save them, and they auto update on their own. i am not sure if it will allow for adding though.
from reading around here, onenote can sync to skydrive though, so i'm pretty sure that with the right setup at present, you can get that going at least.

Hmmm, I can't seem to Edit them. I'm on skydrive now,
just googled skydrive, got windows skydrive up, logged in and viewed all my docs on there. I can click them and open them, view and read, but i can't edit them :S
Unless I'm missing something haha, don't get my wrong i like the fact i can open them from skydrive and read them. But i want them on my phone, in MS Office so i can edit etc

i don't think you can edit the files on skydrive directly
you can save them to your phone (bring up the menu in your file and select save as) and then edit them
and then you can upload to skydrive using the same name...
unfortunately there isn't an easier way to do it.
in answer to the questions the OP asked
1. yes
2. you can set up a network drive and use it as you would a normal drive..copy/paste/save etc
3. yes you can.
i actually like the whole cloud thing..
the only thing is that i am on a 500MB a month tariff (orange) so i worry about going over that..
but the cloud system means that everything is in sync and you don't have to fiddle around with USB sticks etc for small files.
i have all my contacts synced onto Google and windows Live and same with my calendar.
I personally prefer Google because its cloud products have more features and is a lot lot faster...i find windows live very slow..

Ya, i just added my Skydrive documents folder to a mapped drive, so now i can just drag and drop files... nice
Thought i would give it a go dropping a word doc in the Onenote folder to see if it would sync to the phone... but no lol... worth a go though.
At least now i have a nice easy way rather than going to the website and using an upload box. be it ok... this way is much nicer.

thanks for all the replies
what I need to know now is, is there anyway to access folders OTHER than the one marked documents on skydrive via my wp7 handset? When I sync my pc with skydrive there's a dedicated space called "Sync Folder"
I can't seem to access it with my handset

going to have to wait till they release office 365... sharepoint doesnt even work with our phones right now unless you happen to have a dedicated quad core server running sharepoint on that or something. I fiddled with it all for DAYS trying to get it so I could access work documents on my phone from sharepoint but NOPE! Pretty radiculous. Office 365 isnt even going to be available probably for another year! *sigh*

Originally SkyDrive and LiveMesh were products that had nothing whatsoever in common (except for being Cloud services). Lately Microsoft decided to merge them a little - so now you got a 25 GB SkyDrive AND a 5 GB Sync-SkyDrive. Those two can't talk to each other and if you got a Word Doc on the Sync-Drive you can't open it in office Web. If it's on the REAL Skydrive you can access it.
Unluckily only the pictures hub and OneNote currently integrate with the real SkyDrive and there is no integration with the Sync-Drive.
My guess is that doc/xls/ppt, etc. access from the office hub to SkyDrive is coming with an update.
When Microsoft is gonna clean up the mess of the two different SkyDrives is an entirely different matter - would like to see them merged (even if I afterwards have only 25 GB instead of 25 + 5).

Would you mind sharing your method
mwako said:
Ya, i just added my Skydrive documents folder to a mapped drive, so now i can just drag and drop files... nice
Thought i would give it a go dropping a word doc in the Onenote folder to see if it would sync to the phone... but no lol... worth a go though.
At least now i have a nice easy way rather than going to the website and using an upload box. be it ok... this way is much nicer.
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Hi mwako
Would you mind sharing your method for mapping a Skydrive folder?
Many thanks
andrew-in-woking

Actually I'm trying to figure out how Skydrive is supposed to work, but I don't understand the idea...
Its limitations ruin the whole concept:
- Impossible to upload folders to Skydrive. This is insane.
- Each transfer is limited to 50MB.
Therefore I find Skydrive useless for business purposes, especially compared to other systems such as Dropbox.
In my daily job I need to transfer folders of office files. And they need to stay organized as such.
If I cannot upload folders to Skydrive, or if I can only upload files without any organization. what's the use?

How to use a tablet for business

Hi all!
I would discuss with you what can be the best way to use a tablet for a typical business day.
Today I'm used to use my netbook during travelling for:
- read/answer email messages (I receive at least 120 mails/day)
- look at some excel files (typically only read, sometimes also write)
- look at some pdf
- show some PPT presentation through my screen or the VGA output
I'd like to start to use a tablet (currently I have a Samsung tab 7'', in the next future the 10'').
But... how to get access to my outlook mails? Not only what I receive day by day but also to look at what I received 1 months ago or previous.
Also how to have access to my PDF db? or PPT db? Should I use some sync program to sync storage tablet space and PC's storage?
What do you think about?
- Outlook: I can't use IMAP because I organized my mails in many,many,many folders and IMAP is really slow in syncing those...
- File Folders: do you know any nice app which can work nice on wifi (at least).
Maybe I could start to think to dropbox...
Any comment?

No one answered me... and this is sympthomatic of one of:
- my question is not so interesting (maybe)
- there is currently no answer
But I think many of us have my same question because want to buy a new technology gadget but can't find the right way to use it.

I am still a newbie on Android, but will provide some inputs which I am currently using on my XT3 ( not a tablet though)
Bisis said:
But... how to get access to my outlook mails? Not only what I receive day by day but also to look at what I received 1 months ago or previous.
Also how to have access to my PDF db? or PPT db? Should I use some sync program to sync storage tablet space and PC's storage?
What do you think about?
- Outlook: I can't use IMAP because I organized my mails in many,many,many folders and IMAP is really slow in syncing those...
- File Folders: do you know any nice app which can work nice on wifi (at least).
Maybe I could start to think to dropbox...
Any comment?
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- Outlook: My company have Microsoft ActiveSync configured so I use native Email Client of Froyo. I have my mails synced only for 3 days. With this you can choose which folders needs to be sync'ed. Looking at the volume you are trying to use I doubt if the default mail client can handle that load. You can give a try on alternates like RoadSync or TouchDown etc.
- File Folder: I use ES File Explorer. Its a free app and works like a charm on both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Have tested only with Windows machines until now.
Hope this helps here.

Bisis said:
Hi all!
I would discuss with you what can be the best way to use a tablet for a typical business day.
Today I'm used to use my netbook during travelling for:
- read/answer email messages (I receive at least 120 mails/day)
- look at some excel files (typically only read, sometimes also write)
- look at some pdf
- show some PPT presentation through my screen or the VGA output
I'd like to start to use a tablet (currently I have a Samsung tab 7'', in the next future the 10'').
But... how to get access to my outlook mails? Not only what I receive day by day but also to look at what I received 1 months ago or previous.
Also how to have access to my PDF db? or PPT db? Should I use some sync program to sync storage tablet space and PC's storage?
What do you think about?
- Outlook: I can't use IMAP because I organized my mails in many,many,many folders and IMAP is really slow in syncing those...
- File Folders: do you know any nice app which can work nice on wifi (at least).
Maybe I could start to think to dropbox...
Any comment?
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Using a 10.1" Viewsonic Viewpad 10s with internal 3G.
I have no answer for your email problem. I use GMail as my company is using GoogleApps. Access to older emails is a pain from the tablet, and like you I have organized my emails in folders and subfolders (called labels in Gmail). I can access them while out of office, but its not really fast.
For the files, I use "Documents to Go" as it gives me access to my Google Docs account. I can get Word, Excel, Powerpoint and PDF files from my account, read them, change them. It can sync files with your PC as well.

I have the GTab and I use Logmein to view my outlook emails. Granted, I have a desktop PC in my office that remains 'on' at all times so that I can always remote-in to it.
Here's a short list of my business apps installed on my tab:
Citrix Receiver
LogMeIn
WebEx
Evernote
Dropbox
Thinkfree
...plus others.

K-9 mail
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

Why not set up an exchange Android's email client supports outlook exchange.

"ColorNote" "DropBox" help a lot at my work.

I have a galaxy tab, but i use the ipad for on the road business things, its really handy for showing the pdfs i make to explain things to clients and such, there's also alot of excellent business related apps that just aren't on android yet.
A excellent one is like a "minutes" app, and you record everything discussed in the meeting that you can look up on for future reference, it has like a contact lists in it for all the different clients.
As soon as Android matures ill switch to a 10inch tablet

K9 mail has outlook/exchange support (although I've not tested it).
I use IMAP with K9 mail. The beauty of it is you can select which folder to sync. You may have many many folders, but maybe you don't need to sync all of them.
For all your other problems, I guess there is a solution:
There is MSOffice for android (read and write), PDFreader for android.
You should be able to browse through your work file through 3G/Wifi using a combo of cifs manager and ES File explorer. Assuming your work IT let you access to there network from your personal mobile device (they could decide it's forbidden for security reasons... my work would not let me do that).
Another option (not so convenient) for sharing files : Dropbox
Hope this helps

there's also alot of excellent business related apps that just aren't on android yet.
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Please provide examples

Thanks all for the answers!
I think mangus7175 focused the problem.. we need full PC access (through LogMeIn or something like) especially when looking for business mail access.
A PC is compatible with all kind of environment, I mean:
- do you have Exchange? taaaac.. use Outlook synced with it or another client
- do you have POP3/IMAP access? taaaac.. use Outlook synced with it or another client
- ...
I can't understand why this is not available with a tablet with a so big storage space... it'd not be a pst storage problem and with a dual core cpu not a performance one.
I mean that for business access we can't ask our companies to change the environment only because we need that. Tablet are still seen as gadgets.. some companies are going to give to account managers tablets to be more fashion while showing catalogues, documentation, etc.. but it's quite far to be a so common business device, yet.
So in the meantime we can use a lot of PC-like apps but when necessary we still need full access to our PC in the office. In this case the bad thing is that we need a lot of bandwidth and here in my country it's not so available and stable and RDP is not so comfortabel. However also in fast access without a mouse it's quite hard to use.
I'm sorry to say I'm trying a lot of scenarious but unfortunately I still prefer my netbook when travelling, with data manually synced through LAN/USB.

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The main i use is called "Mobile business" by resco, but if you have an iDevice, just have a look in the business section, you'll be amazed.

I'd like to mention "Blue": https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cfcwireless.blue
Good for checking stocks on the go. Offers more possibilities than Google Finance...

Hello,
I use a Gtab for my business since 5 months. If you use Exchange in your business I advise you to use Touchdown. This application is for Mail (Exchange), Meetings, Tasks and Contact.
You can use a lot of settings for mails and meetings.
I use Dropbox, Catch and COL Reminder.

for iPad...
I saw there is an app to see and work on a saved .pst file...
Is possible there is no equivalent for Android?? I can't believe this... but I can't find anything surfing the web!!

WP7 Mango + Skydrive Office

Hi folks,
my first post here, to date I just read in the background.
However I just hacked the Mango update to my Optimus 7 and I have a question considering Skydrive + Mango.
I sync all my documents between my workstation, my laptop and skydrive synced storage.
However I cannot access the synced storage via my WP7, only the standard folders. Is there a way to sync my documents folder to standard skydrive as well?
Thx in advance for your help.
Kind regards,
dahlai

I can access mine. Office -> SkyDrive -> My Documents

Yeah, but this folder is empty...
The data only gets synced between my two computers and Skydrive synced storage, which does not appear on WP7. So, how can I sync the data to the "real" skydrive.
Or am I missing an important point here`?

anyone here, who could help me?

Now I mounted my Skydrive as a loval drive, syncing tools like Syncback however cannot synchronize data with the drive -.-

You're mixing up two things: SkyDrive and SkyDrive synced storage.
SkyDrive is the online service that gives you 25GB to store your stuff. This is the place to where you can directly upload your photos from WP7 for example.
The other thing is Live Mesh. Live Mesh allows you to sync files between several PCs and "SkyDrive synced storage". This is useful if you have two PC and you want to sync files between them, but you don't have them turned on at the same time. Live Mesh only offers 5GB of storage and you cannot access it from WP7.
You can see your Documents in skydrive here: http://skydrive.com
Only things that you upload there can be viewed and edited on your WP7.

Yes I know that. However on first sight I thought that there had to be an option that live mesh could also sync to skydrive.
I now know that this is not possible. (Cannot find any reason for that though)
So I now have the problem, that my documents on both PCs are kept in sync via live mesh, which also syncs to the 5gb of synced storage. Now with Mango on my phone and the ability to access/edit documents from skydrive, the only logical conclusion for me is to keep those files in sync with my PCs as well.
As of yet there seemingly isn´t any solution to it.
One can mount skydrive as a local drive, but you cannot sync files with it, even though one can drag and drop....
Any thoughts?

Missing workflow microsoft ???
Me too, Microsoft are missing the point here (or are we ?) You want to sync your docs between computers and have them open quickly/locally...but also want these same docs available on the web and WP7. Hope this gets resolved in a later beta of Mango...

So far, your only solution would be to browse your sync'd folder through the browser on the phone.

Merge them
They should just merge the 2 features together and allow any skydrive folder to be synced.

prjkthack said:
So far, your only solution would be to browse your sync'd folder through the browser on the phone.
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and that only works if you switch the browser to full mode (not mobile)

Hmm, really hope this gets resolved, at latest with the final Mango release.
Otherwise the whole skydrive does not really make a lot of sense, being integrated into the Office Hub

followed this guide and mine works.
http://www.ampercent.com/access-open-sync-skydrive-windows-explorer/6724/

This is exactly the kind of thing that make me mad about microsoft... its sooo damn frustrating sometimes.
WHY on earth have this nice LIVE mesh feature, where you keep all of your pcs docs nicely synced, but then, dont have the option of seeing it in your WINDOWS phone, you need to manually upload it to ANOTHER folder in a PC (wich erase the whole purpose), and dont give me the "just download it from the browser" thing...
I love the wp7 mango beta, its one hell of a slick OS, actually im kind of a microsoft fan in general, i use PCs exclusively, office, xbox, zune HD, hotmail, live, skydrive & mesh and now WP7 (i do own an ipad though)... but why it is soo hard for them to make everything work together?? this is an important feature for me since i sometimes need to check some excel files on the go, and i need the most up to date version... So im screwed, since dropbox (which i used) its a no go in wp7 (i dont mind, since its not MSFT fault), but mesh (a msft service) its useless in their phone, even in the ipad i have access to it via iSMEStorage...
Music/video streaming is nice and all, but this feature seems to me even easier to implement, they can even disable the editing/uploading functionality, i believe most of us can do with a viewer only...
...end of rant...

Any chance of syncing?

Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.

Drake008 said:
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
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Yes, you need to install Zune.

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Drake008 said:
Is there a way to sync my WP7 phone like the old WindowsMobile phones?
this phone is not for online purpose (too expensive!!!) so I need to sync it via cable.
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Seriously i don't know what this guy is talking about.

SO I have Outlook 2003 with all my contacts and appointments in it. This was easy to sync with my old MDA.
Now with the new WP7 this function is nowhere to find. All what opens is Zune an this does not sync anything from outlook in any way.

It just doesn't sync with Outlook in a normal way.
Zune doesn't do it (still!). Apparently this simpe task was to difficult to implement it on WP7, or rather MS wanted to force you to use cloud.
The only choice you have to Sync PC/Outlook and WP7 phone
is to get Hotmail plugin in the Office,
this way you can sync Calendar and Contacts, via data plan/wifi.

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For me, the inability to sync directly with a PC is the one and only deal breaker. My calendar, contacts, etc. are all housed in Outlook at work and my company blocks all access to third-party email systems, making syncing the "Windows Phone" way completely impossible.
I tried extracting the calendar and contacts into data files, importing them into Gmail, and then syncing with the Quantum that I picked up on Ebay, and it was an epic fail! Many contacts were missing their contact names and recurring appointments were converted into individual appointments, which would make rescheduling those appointments a *HUGE* P.I.T.A.!!! They never should have removed that ability to sync with a PC completely.
In less than 2 days, I couldn't wait to switch back to using my Rhodium full time. Sure, I miss the coolness factor of the new bells and whistles in Windows Phone, but I am confident that I can trust that my data is always up to date and complete in my Windows Mobile phone.
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inteller said:
that's pretty funny because my company "blocks anything but Blackberry" but all I had to do is put in my credentials for the exchange account and autodiscovery grabbed everything and sync'd it to the phone. Did you even try that? Granted your company needs to be in the modern era and not stuck onsomething like Exchange 2003.
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My company will not disclose the Exchange server (yes, we're on 2003) credentials to anyone, because they do not want anyone accessing the server with an unauthorized personal device. If they want you to have access to the servers for business purposes, they will only allow it via a company-provided Blackberry or laptop computer. The only thing I am able to do is sync my calendar, contacts, task list, and notes with my Rhodium via ActiveSync. I do not send/receive company email via my Rhodium.

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go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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scottspa74 said:
go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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Funny that all the sync features you listed here can as well be synced on WP in the exact same way. The OP was asking for a way to sync his desktop Outlook with his device without using any internet services.

scottspa74 said:
go android. The conversion from winmo (which I loved) to win phone 7 forced me to android. Which I love now, and you can sync anything (Google or exchange, or whatever else). MS Fd up.
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dkp1977 said:
Funny that all the sync features you listed here can as well be synced on WP in the exact same way. The OP was asking for a way to sync his desktop Outlook with his device without using any internet services.
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Yes, exactly! It still baffles me as to why MS would remove that option entirely. They rewrote the mobile OS completely to compete with Android and iPhone, but yet they limit you to syncing your data the same way that the competitors do? Why not go the extra step and allow your customers to choose their sync method, so as to not completely alienate your current users?
As it is, my home PC is Vista, while my work PC is XP, so syncing with 2 PCs is impossible. ActiveSync and Device Center conflict with each other so badly, that I can't even sync my data at work, sync it at home, and then sync my home Outlook with the web services, so that I can then sync with a WP7 device. Hell, I'd carry my Rhodium around with me (without the SIM card), just for syncing purposes, if I could do that!
I kind of understand what they were going for, but in doing so they have unwittingly made sure that I have no choice but to continue using my Rhodium... Happily! BTW, did I read correctly that Apollo is rumored to be bringing back PC syncing??? [Psst... Microsoft, if you give consumers more than what the competitors are, you just may gain some additional market share.... Just sayin'. ]
inteller said:
2003...time to upgrade to another company.
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Easier said than done... In this economy (got laid off in Nov.), I'm just happy to be working at all!
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DebbieNY13 said:
I kind of understand what they were going for, but in doing so they have unwittingly made sure that I have no choice but to continue using my Rhodium... Happily! BTW, did I read correctly that Apollo is rumored to be bringing back PC syncing??? [Psst... Microsoft, if you give consumers more than what the competitors are and you just may gain some additional market share.... Just sayin'. ]
Easier said than done... In this economy (got laid off in Nov.), I'm just happy to be working at all!
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I've read that somewhere too. But it wasn't really specific. Could mean you can only sync media and probably documents like you used to back in the days of Windows Mobile. But I agree that adding cable sync for Outlook for those who can't use cloud services or Exchange or simply don't want to would set Windows Phone a little more apart from its competitors.