Hi folks,
my first post here, to date I just read in the background.
However I just hacked the Mango update to my Optimus 7 and I have a question considering Skydrive + Mango.
I sync all my documents between my workstation, my laptop and skydrive synced storage.
However I cannot access the synced storage via my WP7, only the standard folders. Is there a way to sync my documents folder to standard skydrive as well?
Thx in advance for your help.
Kind regards,
dahlai
I can access mine. Office -> SkyDrive -> My Documents
Yeah, but this folder is empty...
The data only gets synced between my two computers and Skydrive synced storage, which does not appear on WP7. So, how can I sync the data to the "real" skydrive.
Or am I missing an important point here`?
anyone here, who could help me?
Now I mounted my Skydrive as a loval drive, syncing tools like Syncback however cannot synchronize data with the drive -.-
You're mixing up two things: SkyDrive and SkyDrive synced storage.
SkyDrive is the online service that gives you 25GB to store your stuff. This is the place to where you can directly upload your photos from WP7 for example.
The other thing is Live Mesh. Live Mesh allows you to sync files between several PCs and "SkyDrive synced storage". This is useful if you have two PC and you want to sync files between them, but you don't have them turned on at the same time. Live Mesh only offers 5GB of storage and you cannot access it from WP7.
You can see your Documents in skydrive here: http://skydrive.com
Only things that you upload there can be viewed and edited on your WP7.
Yes I know that. However on first sight I thought that there had to be an option that live mesh could also sync to skydrive.
I now know that this is not possible. (Cannot find any reason for that though)
So I now have the problem, that my documents on both PCs are kept in sync via live mesh, which also syncs to the 5gb of synced storage. Now with Mango on my phone and the ability to access/edit documents from skydrive, the only logical conclusion for me is to keep those files in sync with my PCs as well.
As of yet there seemingly isn´t any solution to it.
One can mount skydrive as a local drive, but you cannot sync files with it, even though one can drag and drop....
Any thoughts?
Missing workflow microsoft ???
Me too, Microsoft are missing the point here (or are we ?) You want to sync your docs between computers and have them open quickly/locally...but also want these same docs available on the web and WP7. Hope this gets resolved in a later beta of Mango...
So far, your only solution would be to browse your sync'd folder through the browser on the phone.
Merge them
They should just merge the 2 features together and allow any skydrive folder to be synced.
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So far, your only solution would be to browse your sync'd folder through the browser on the phone.
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and that only works if you switch the browser to full mode (not mobile)
Hmm, really hope this gets resolved, at latest with the final Mango release.
Otherwise the whole skydrive does not really make a lot of sense, being integrated into the Office Hub
followed this guide and mine works.
http://www.ampercent.com/access-open-sync-skydrive-windows-explorer/6724/
This is exactly the kind of thing that make me mad about microsoft... its sooo damn frustrating sometimes.
WHY on earth have this nice LIVE mesh feature, where you keep all of your pcs docs nicely synced, but then, dont have the option of seeing it in your WINDOWS phone, you need to manually upload it to ANOTHER folder in a PC (wich erase the whole purpose), and dont give me the "just download it from the browser" thing...
I love the wp7 mango beta, its one hell of a slick OS, actually im kind of a microsoft fan in general, i use PCs exclusively, office, xbox, zune HD, hotmail, live, skydrive & mesh and now WP7 (i do own an ipad though)... but why it is soo hard for them to make everything work together?? this is an important feature for me since i sometimes need to check some excel files on the go, and i need the most up to date version... So im screwed, since dropbox (which i used) its a no go in wp7 (i dont mind, since its not MSFT fault), but mesh (a msft service) its useless in their phone, even in the ipad i have access to it via iSMEStorage...
Music/video streaming is nice and all, but this feature seems to me even easier to implement, they can even disable the editing/uploading functionality, i believe most of us can do with a viewer only...
...end of rant...
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Hi, I'm new around here as a new WP7 user, I'm trying to get some advice. I have all of my contacts and calendar entries synced to Outlook. I have Zune software installed. I may just be missing something simple, but how do I get the phone to sync with Outlook and grab these contacts and calendar entries?
Many thanks
Michael.
Bad news. It does not sync with Outlook (only Exchange version) with a pst file.
11 page thread below re this.
What? Windows phone do not sync with outlook? Are they killing each other...
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Hi
It is possible - just get the Outlok connector to sync Outlook to Windows Live, and then Windows Live will sync to the WP7 (over the air).
Paul
I'm shocked that it can't just sync directly with Outlook
Anyway, I did put my Windows Live ID onto the phone, but that then synced all of my MSN contacts to the phone book, which I don't want. I couldn't find a way to stop it syncing my MSN contacts, and as you cannot delete the account once entered, I had to format the phone and start over.
So it looks like I'm going to need a whole new Windows Live account just to sync my Outlook contacts and calendar. Looking at the Outlook connector it seems to be saying that it'll transfer your Live contacts and calendar to Outlook, but what I'm wanting is the other way around, my Outlook calendar and contact to transfer to Live. How do you do this?
Many thanks
Michael.
Ok - firstly Windows Live isn't the only way to sync contacts/calendar on to your phone OTA. There is Exchange, gmail etc to do this. You might want to look at the other methods.
I for one didn't want to use Live at all and went for an hosted Exchange option till I can get my own server sorted (overkill I know). However, hosted Exchange costs about £4 pm.If you have your own domain, even sweeter.
So I still use Outlook (I'm lucky I have 2010 so can have 2 excahnge accounts on 1 profile) to keep all my work and home calendar and contacts in sync with my phone and this also translates to home desktops and laptops automatically too. This is as easy as drgging and dropping between accounts.
chubnut said:
Ok - firstly Windows Live isn't the only way to sync contacts/calendar on to your phone OTA. There is Exchange, gmail etc to do this. You might want to look at the other methods.
I for one didn't want to use Live at all and went for an hosted Exchange option till I can get my own server sorted (overkill I know). However, hosted Exchange costs about £4 pm.If you have your own domain, even sweeter.
So I still use Outlook (I'm lucky I have 2010 so can have 2 excahnge accounts on 1 profile) to keep all my work and home calendar and contacts in sync with my phone and this also translates to home desktops and laptops automatically too. This is as easy as drgging and dropping between accounts.
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If I have to sync with Outlook OTA, what I really want is a solution that works the same as MobileMe, i.e., it automatically keeps all the data between the phone and Outlook in sync without the need to perform manual syncs. Is this possible?
the usual send/recieve in outlook will connect to your live account also and onto your phone why pay £4pm when this kinda thing should be included, I'm sure MS will get off their arse soon and do some updates and tweaking.
jedix said:
the usual send/recieve in outlook will connect to your live account also and onto your phone why pay £4pm when this kinda thing should be included, I'm sure MS will get off their arse soon and do some updates and tweaking.
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You are right MS need to sort this out but I doubt it's a priority. They consider the whole Outlook thing to be a business solution and by their very own words are a secondary concern for this OS at the moment. They want the simple masses not the business/power users. They want that massive chunk of iPhone and Android drones to come over to WP.
There is no way I want my business and personal contacts and calendar on Live. That **** gets hacked all the time. The hosted exchange solution was the safest and easiest solution for me at present. It's quick and easy to set up, secure as it's a business solution and employs security protocols way above those on Live. In addition the OTA synchronisation between the device and all other machines that use that exchange account (so those at home and my PC at work) is instantaneous, and yes a bit of a pain to do the drag and drop between the exchange accounts but it's EXACTLY the same as you will have to do if you use Live and the Outlook connector. £4pm is in my opinion not a high price to pay for to satisfy my concerns.
Hmmm, so what r the options ?
Desktop synching is critical to me.
I've got a small business, we don't run Exchange server but have invested serious time to standardise on Outlook/Office: contacts, tasks, notes, onenote, email client, word/excel.
Contacts and detailed contact info is our IP; Word/Excel data is client confidential. Placing this on someone else's drive in the cloud isn't an option.
From what I understand so far...
1. Phone 7: data on the cloud; doesn't sync (manual updates)
2. Android: data on the cloud; synchs email and contacts only (?)
3. Apple: data on the desktop, synchs email and contacts only
4. Symbian: ugh !
5. WM6.x: currently trying to get away from the endless problems and snail-like performance
Is this right ?
Does anyone have an alternative (other than implementing Exchange)?
(Waiting doesn’t seem an option either. I'm sceptical MS will introduce desktop synching anytime soon, or at all: social users won't care and Exchange synch takes care of corporates - hence 80% of potential market is catered for. Also, the prospect of selling cloud storage has put a light in way too many eyes. )
mrochester said:
If I have to sync with Outlook OTA, what I really want is a solution that works the same as MobileMe, i.e., it automatically keeps all the data between the phone and Outlook in sync without the need to perform manual syncs. Is this possible?
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Windows Live uses Exchange ActiveSync. That is far superior to MobileMe. Do people still use MobileMe?
Anyways...
Exchange also uses ActiveSync.
Exchange is supported Natively in Outlook. Windows Live is supported via the Connector (Mail, Contacts, Calendar).
Everything stays in Sync.
jedix said:
the usual send/recieve in outlook will connect to your live account also and onto your phone why pay £4pm when this kinda thing should be included, I'm sure MS will get off their arse soon and do some updates and tweaking.
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The Outlook Connector and Hotmail ActiveSync is completely free.
Don't spread lies.
I'm not totally of-fay with Android or iPhone so can't really comment except I think that iPhones also do calendar from Outlook desktop via iTunes (and correct me if I'm wrong OTA with exchange).
Also with Android, some guys at work do use desktop sync to Outlook but I don't know what and how but they do use it.
I just came off the WinMo 6.5 bandwagon so I know what it was capable of not mater how bad.
WP7, my company won't open up the ports to allow Exchange to sync (they like SlackBerries) and with the absence desktop sync I had to implement my own methods for OTA syncing without using Live. None of this is ideal but it seems from other forums that a lot of people are complaining about this and M$ I believe are listening, though when it will be sorted is another matter.
Sorry
dfh said:
what I understand so far...
1. Phone 7: data on the cloud; doesn't sync (manual updates)
2. Android: data on the cloud; synchs email and contacts only (?)
3. Apple: data on the desktop, synchs email and contacts only
4. Symbian: ugh !
5. WM6.x: currently trying to get away from the endless problems and snail-like performance
Is this right ?
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You don't understand... No, it is not correct.
1. Data on the cloud. Synchs automatically:
Of course your email, calendar, and contact list shows up from Hotmail, powered by Exchange ActiveSync. And because the phone supports multiple ActiveSync connections, you can connect to your Exchange server at work and view all of your mail, both calendars, and your entire contact list on your phone. And similar to Hotmail on the web, it’s really easy to make quick edits to Office documents you receive as email attachments and reply.
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Reference: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...0/10/11/windows-live-and-windows-phone-7.aspx
2. Android Synchs Calendars from Google Servers. Google on Android has weaker (i.e. less tight) integration than Windows Live on Windows Phone 7, though.
3. MobileMe is inferior to both the WP7/Live and Android/Google integration. It supports ActiveSync, however.
4. Symbian supports ActiveSync. Symbian may not look that great but feature for feature it can match or rival most other smartphone OSes. The UI is what has held Symbian back, not the core platform - which is great.
5. WM6.x Supports ActiveSync and there is Windows Live for Windows Mobile to Sync Winodws Live Mail and Contacts to the phone. It can also merge Live Contacts with already-existing Phone contacts and show Presence information. There is Microsoft Office 2010 Mobile for Windows Mobile 6.5. The only WinMo phone I'd bother using is an HD2 these days, but that device has its own problems (if you get a "good one", then you're good to go, though).
On WinMo 6.5 You can sync your Hotmail Contacts/Mail via Windows Live for Windows Mobile, chat with Windows Live Messenger Mobile, and get your Google Mail, Contacts, and Calendar via ActiveSync by way of Google Sync.
Does anyone have an alternative (other than implementing Exchange)?
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Yes, you can get a Blackberry and use BIS/BES.
(Waiting doesn’t seem an option either. I'm sceptical MS will introduce desktop synching anytime soon, or at all: social users won't care and Exchange synch takes care of corporates - hence 80% of potential market is catered for. Also, the prospect of selling cloud storage has put a light in way too many eyes. )
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Desktop Syncing is a feature being fantastically overstated in these forums, just like stuff like a File manager. If you're a Lemming then just get an Android phone and use Google Services. If you can make your own decisions I think I've cleared up enough of your misconceptions in this reply (or at least given you the capabilities of each platform IRT what info syncs that may pretain to you specific use case).
EDIT: If you're running a business you can do yourself a favor and oursource your Exchange hosting. For example: http://www.apps4rent.com/ has 6-7GB mailboxes for something like $7.99/mo and you can get just 1 mailbox if you want, with no contract or anything. I used them for a couple of years, so I can vouch for them. You get Outlook for free with you Plan (or Entourage/Outlook for Mac) and ActiveSync is a free Add-On. You can access from web browsers using OWA, and use either a sub-domain or your own domain.
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797472
I'm pretty sure anyone reading this thread has seen that trainwreck of a thread. You don't need to crosspost the link here. You're free to bump your thread.
Pretty sure
I'm very sure that you do not use Outlook on a stand alone PC with a pst file and sync every day with a Win Phone or you would understand what we are all talking about. No I qualify, sync every day with Calender, Tasks, & Contacts.[/I]
Just for those who have read this thread and are confused; I have an outlook calendar, contacts, and hotmail all synced up with my WP7 device.
Calendar - I chose to install Google Calendar Sync onto my Outlook PC. It automatically syncs my local outlook calendar with the cloud every 10 mins. Google calendar then pushes any changes to my phone instantly, no wires.
Contacts - I chose to install the hotmail connector for outlook, and dragged all my contacts out of their folder and into the hotmail account. this pushed them onto the phone automatically, no wires. Any changes to contacts are now made either on the phone directly, or in the new contacts folder created by the hotmail connector.
Hotmail - I used to use the POP3 account settings, but decided to change to using the outlook connector instead. Works a treat. Push Email is far superior to clunky old send/receive schedules.
The above may not suit everone, but it works for me and I`m very happy with the results.
@N8ter
No, desktop sync and file manager is not oversized.
It's basics which should be provided
Funny how people were moaning about WM6.5's lack of wireless sync with Outlook. Now that WP7 syncs wirelessly with Outlook, people are moaning that it doesn't sync over wired USB.
Some people will never be happy. *shrug*
so I've been trying to figure out this whole "cloud" concept.
(1) Using Windows Live Mesh 2011, I'm able to keep folders on my pc synced in the cloud on my skydrive. However, am I able to access these documents from my handset?
(2) Do I have to manually upload documents onto my skydrive or is there some option in microsoft office/word to upload them?
(3) I guess it's impossible to upload document files from your handset to your skydrive
so what I don't get is, why did they decide to go into this whole "cloud" concept, only to have the "cloud" not work the way it should?
SkyDrive
I've been able to access SkyDrive from my WINDOWS 7 PHONE (HTC HD 7) I can view the files in SkyDrive, open up a document and read it/view etc. But I can't download them onto my handset, so i can edit them and such in MS Office on my phone. According to MS Office on the windows 7 phones, you gota use something called sharepoint.
Hope this helps.
:/
they don't have it properly intergrated into the office hub at present but rumour has it that it will come as part of the update. what you can do however is in IE visit skydrive.com, and from there view your skydrive, open files, edit them, save them, and they auto update on their own. i am not sure if it will allow for adding though.
from reading around here, onenote can sync to skydrive though, so i'm pretty sure that with the right setup at present, you can get that going at least.
Hmmm, I can't seem to Edit them. I'm on skydrive now,
just googled skydrive, got windows skydrive up, logged in and viewed all my docs on there. I can click them and open them, view and read, but i can't edit them :S
Unless I'm missing something haha, don't get my wrong i like the fact i can open them from skydrive and read them. But i want them on my phone, in MS Office so i can edit etc
i don't think you can edit the files on skydrive directly
you can save them to your phone (bring up the menu in your file and select save as) and then edit them
and then you can upload to skydrive using the same name...
unfortunately there isn't an easier way to do it.
in answer to the questions the OP asked
1. yes
2. you can set up a network drive and use it as you would a normal drive..copy/paste/save etc
3. yes you can.
i actually like the whole cloud thing..
the only thing is that i am on a 500MB a month tariff (orange) so i worry about going over that..
but the cloud system means that everything is in sync and you don't have to fiddle around with USB sticks etc for small files.
i have all my contacts synced onto Google and windows Live and same with my calendar.
I personally prefer Google because its cloud products have more features and is a lot lot faster...i find windows live very slow..
Ya, i just added my Skydrive documents folder to a mapped drive, so now i can just drag and drop files... nice
Thought i would give it a go dropping a word doc in the Onenote folder to see if it would sync to the phone... but no lol... worth a go though.
At least now i have a nice easy way rather than going to the website and using an upload box. be it ok... this way is much nicer.
thanks for all the replies
what I need to know now is, is there anyway to access folders OTHER than the one marked documents on skydrive via my wp7 handset? When I sync my pc with skydrive there's a dedicated space called "Sync Folder"
I can't seem to access it with my handset
going to have to wait till they release office 365... sharepoint doesnt even work with our phones right now unless you happen to have a dedicated quad core server running sharepoint on that or something. I fiddled with it all for DAYS trying to get it so I could access work documents on my phone from sharepoint but NOPE! Pretty radiculous. Office 365 isnt even going to be available probably for another year! *sigh*
Originally SkyDrive and LiveMesh were products that had nothing whatsoever in common (except for being Cloud services). Lately Microsoft decided to merge them a little - so now you got a 25 GB SkyDrive AND a 5 GB Sync-SkyDrive. Those two can't talk to each other and if you got a Word Doc on the Sync-Drive you can't open it in office Web. If it's on the REAL Skydrive you can access it.
Unluckily only the pictures hub and OneNote currently integrate with the real SkyDrive and there is no integration with the Sync-Drive.
My guess is that doc/xls/ppt, etc. access from the office hub to SkyDrive is coming with an update.
When Microsoft is gonna clean up the mess of the two different SkyDrives is an entirely different matter - would like to see them merged (even if I afterwards have only 25 GB instead of 25 + 5).
Would you mind sharing your method
mwako said:
Ya, i just added my Skydrive documents folder to a mapped drive, so now i can just drag and drop files... nice
Thought i would give it a go dropping a word doc in the Onenote folder to see if it would sync to the phone... but no lol... worth a go though.
At least now i have a nice easy way rather than going to the website and using an upload box. be it ok... this way is much nicer.
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Hi mwako
Would you mind sharing your method for mapping a Skydrive folder?
Many thanks
andrew-in-woking
Actually I'm trying to figure out how Skydrive is supposed to work, but I don't understand the idea...
Its limitations ruin the whole concept:
- Impossible to upload folders to Skydrive. This is insane.
- Each transfer is limited to 50MB.
Therefore I find Skydrive useless for business purposes, especially compared to other systems such as Dropbox.
In my daily job I need to transfer folders of office files. And they need to stay organized as such.
If I cannot upload folders to Skydrive, or if I can only upload files without any organization. what's the use?
Hi all!
I would discuss with you what can be the best way to use a tablet for a typical business day.
Today I'm used to use my netbook during travelling for:
- read/answer email messages (I receive at least 120 mails/day)
- look at some excel files (typically only read, sometimes also write)
- look at some pdf
- show some PPT presentation through my screen or the VGA output
I'd like to start to use a tablet (currently I have a Samsung tab 7'', in the next future the 10'').
But... how to get access to my outlook mails? Not only what I receive day by day but also to look at what I received 1 months ago or previous.
Also how to have access to my PDF db? or PPT db? Should I use some sync program to sync storage tablet space and PC's storage?
What do you think about?
- Outlook: I can't use IMAP because I organized my mails in many,many,many folders and IMAP is really slow in syncing those...
- File Folders: do you know any nice app which can work nice on wifi (at least).
Maybe I could start to think to dropbox...
Any comment?
No one answered me... and this is sympthomatic of one of:
- my question is not so interesting (maybe)
- there is currently no answer
But I think many of us have my same question because want to buy a new technology gadget but can't find the right way to use it.
I am still a newbie on Android, but will provide some inputs which I am currently using on my XT3 ( not a tablet though)
Bisis said:
But... how to get access to my outlook mails? Not only what I receive day by day but also to look at what I received 1 months ago or previous.
Also how to have access to my PDF db? or PPT db? Should I use some sync program to sync storage tablet space and PC's storage?
What do you think about?
- Outlook: I can't use IMAP because I organized my mails in many,many,many folders and IMAP is really slow in syncing those...
- File Folders: do you know any nice app which can work nice on wifi (at least).
Maybe I could start to think to dropbox...
Any comment?
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- Outlook: My company have Microsoft ActiveSync configured so I use native Email Client of Froyo. I have my mails synced only for 3 days. With this you can choose which folders needs to be sync'ed. Looking at the volume you are trying to use I doubt if the default mail client can handle that load. You can give a try on alternates like RoadSync or TouchDown etc.
- File Folder: I use ES File Explorer. Its a free app and works like a charm on both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Have tested only with Windows machines until now.
Hope this helps here.
Bisis said:
Hi all!
I would discuss with you what can be the best way to use a tablet for a typical business day.
Today I'm used to use my netbook during travelling for:
- read/answer email messages (I receive at least 120 mails/day)
- look at some excel files (typically only read, sometimes also write)
- look at some pdf
- show some PPT presentation through my screen or the VGA output
I'd like to start to use a tablet (currently I have a Samsung tab 7'', in the next future the 10'').
But... how to get access to my outlook mails? Not only what I receive day by day but also to look at what I received 1 months ago or previous.
Also how to have access to my PDF db? or PPT db? Should I use some sync program to sync storage tablet space and PC's storage?
What do you think about?
- Outlook: I can't use IMAP because I organized my mails in many,many,many folders and IMAP is really slow in syncing those...
- File Folders: do you know any nice app which can work nice on wifi (at least).
Maybe I could start to think to dropbox...
Any comment?
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Using a 10.1" Viewsonic Viewpad 10s with internal 3G.
I have no answer for your email problem. I use GMail as my company is using GoogleApps. Access to older emails is a pain from the tablet, and like you I have organized my emails in folders and subfolders (called labels in Gmail). I can access them while out of office, but its not really fast.
For the files, I use "Documents to Go" as it gives me access to my Google Docs account. I can get Word, Excel, Powerpoint and PDF files from my account, read them, change them. It can sync files with your PC as well.
I have the GTab and I use Logmein to view my outlook emails. Granted, I have a desktop PC in my office that remains 'on' at all times so that I can always remote-in to it.
Here's a short list of my business apps installed on my tab:
Citrix Receiver
LogMeIn
WebEx
Evernote
Dropbox
Thinkfree
...plus others.
K-9 mail
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
Why not set up an exchange Android's email client supports outlook exchange.
"ColorNote" "DropBox" help a lot at my work.
I have a galaxy tab, but i use the ipad for on the road business things, its really handy for showing the pdfs i make to explain things to clients and such, there's also alot of excellent business related apps that just aren't on android yet.
A excellent one is like a "minutes" app, and you record everything discussed in the meeting that you can look up on for future reference, it has like a contact lists in it for all the different clients.
As soon as Android matures ill switch to a 10inch tablet
K9 mail has outlook/exchange support (although I've not tested it).
I use IMAP with K9 mail. The beauty of it is you can select which folder to sync. You may have many many folders, but maybe you don't need to sync all of them.
For all your other problems, I guess there is a solution:
There is MSOffice for android (read and write), PDFreader for android.
You should be able to browse through your work file through 3G/Wifi using a combo of cifs manager and ES File explorer. Assuming your work IT let you access to there network from your personal mobile device (they could decide it's forbidden for security reasons... my work would not let me do that).
Another option (not so convenient) for sharing files : Dropbox
Hope this helps
there's also alot of excellent business related apps that just aren't on android yet.
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Thanks all for the answers!
I think mangus7175 focused the problem.. we need full PC access (through LogMeIn or something like) especially when looking for business mail access.
A PC is compatible with all kind of environment, I mean:
- do you have Exchange? taaaac.. use Outlook synced with it or another client
- do you have POP3/IMAP access? taaaac.. use Outlook synced with it or another client
- ...
I can't understand why this is not available with a tablet with a so big storage space... it'd not be a pst storage problem and with a dual core cpu not a performance one.
I mean that for business access we can't ask our companies to change the environment only because we need that. Tablet are still seen as gadgets.. some companies are going to give to account managers tablets to be more fashion while showing catalogues, documentation, etc.. but it's quite far to be a so common business device, yet.
So in the meantime we can use a lot of PC-like apps but when necessary we still need full access to our PC in the office. In this case the bad thing is that we need a lot of bandwidth and here in my country it's not so available and stable and RDP is not so comfortabel. However also in fast access without a mouse it's quite hard to use.
I'm sorry to say I'm trying a lot of scenarious but unfortunately I still prefer my netbook when travelling, with data manually synced through LAN/USB.
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The main i use is called "Mobile business" by resco, but if you have an iDevice, just have a look in the business section, you'll be amazed.
I'd like to mention "Blue": https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cfcwireless.blue
Good for checking stocks on the go. Offers more possibilities than Google Finance...
Hello,
I use a Gtab for my business since 5 months. If you use Exchange in your business I advise you to use Touchdown. This application is for Mail (Exchange), Meetings, Tasks and Contact.
You can use a lot of settings for mails and meetings.
I use Dropbox, Catch and COL Reminder.
for iPad...
I saw there is an app to see and work on a saved .pst file...
Is possible there is no equivalent for Android?? I can't believe this... but I can't find anything surfing the web!!
I received my HTC 7 Pro over the weekend. It looks nice, runs fine. I upgraded to Mango Beta. That made it even better. I ordered a 32GB microSD to get the storage the phone deserves. So, I'm excited about my new toy. And then I tried to sync to Outlook.
It seems incredibly strange that on this website chock full of staunch individualists that no one is ranting about being forced to use MS Hotmail and the MS cloud invironment as the only method of allowing a 'Pro' phone to be synchronized with Outlook contacts and calendar. And what about all of the music and files I have on my PC? It isn't rational that I should have to pass 10-20GB of stuff through the MS cloud just because MS have decided that is how they want to manage phone synchronization. I do not want another public e-mail address and I certainly do not want to push my business correspondence through one.
[I have just deleted a lengthy rant about MS from here. Suffice it to say I am really dissatisfied with MS and their apparent business intent.]
I like the HTC 7 Pro but I really need to be able to connect a USB cable and transfer my own stuff like I can on any other phone.
So I am looking to all of you for help/advice. If there is no way to synchronize Phone 7 with my laptop then I am perfectly willing to downgrade back to WM6.5 or switch to Android. I just need to know what my options are.
I kept all my packing material. If there is no solution then I will return the phone and get the nearest Android equivalent.
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Steve
Your media can all be transferred using Zune, direct from your computer, wired or over WiFi (after a wired sync you can set the phone to automatically sync when it's plugged in and doing nothing)
Regarding Outlook, I don't know of a single person that doesn't use Exchange or Google, both of which can be used to synchronise mail, calendar, contacts and i believe tasks between computer and mobile device. This is so much more advantageous than 'direct by wire' syncing that I'm surprised you are that concerned. If anything it's good practice to have a backup of these things...
shrines said:
I received my HTC 7 Pro over the weekend. It looks nice, runs fine. I upgraded to Mango Beta. That made it even better. I ordered a 32GB microSD to get the storage the phone deserves. So, I'm excited about my new toy. And then I tried to sync to Outlook.
It seems incredibly strange that on this website chock full of staunch individualists that no one is ranting about being forced to use MS Hotmail and the MS cloud invironment as the only method of allowing a 'Pro' phone to be synchronized with Outlook contacts and calendar. And what about all of the music and files I have on my PC? It isn't rational that I should have to pass 10-20GB of stuff through the MS cloud just because MS have decided that is how they want to manage phone synchronization. I do not want another public e-mail address and I certainly do not want to push my business correspondence through one.
[I have just deleted a lengthy rant about MS from here. Suffice it to say I am really dissatisfied with MS and their apparent business intent.]
I like the HTC 7 Pro but I really need to be able to connect a USB cable and transfer my own stuff like I can on any other phone.
So I am looking to all of you for help/advice. If there is no way to synchronize Phone 7 with my laptop then I am perfectly willing to downgrade back to WM6.5 or switch to Android. I just need to know what my options are.
I kept all my packing material. If there is no solution then I will return the phone and get the nearest Android equivalent.
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Steve
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yea nothing wrong with using the cloud at all. there's also even a hotmail-outlook connector, you are not being "forced" to use hotmail at all ur more than welcome to use ur exchange email to sync ur contacts but u do need a live ID to use the marketplace and Zune. android has this similar practice where u need a Gmail account to even be able to use it period. MS is not going to spy on ur emails or call ur contacts and ur information isn't any less safe on the cloud than it is on ur PC.
Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
shrines said:
Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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this is totally incorrect! on wp7 u can add as many exchange accounts as u want and it will sync them and keep them updated vs on wm6.5 and android u can have one, and those contacts that aren't on exchange u can easily add them or import them it is no big deal at all. all the calendars are also updated, on my arrive with the mango beta I have 2 live accounts setup and my Facebook account and it syncs ALL my appointments accordingly to which account they originated from. Zune does not sync any of this, Zune only syncs pictures,videos and music.
Forgive me, but reading that sounds like you haven't actually used the software.
Zune only deals with multimedia and updates - nothing to do with calendars, contacts, or mail.
You can have as many accounts as you like on the phone, they ALL synchronise everything, and in the calendar app every accounts' calendar appears and has a different colour attached to it (mine, for example, highlights Exchange in red, Google in Blue, and Facebook in green, and they all appear together so I know when I'm actually available)
I don't understand how having a thousand contacts is a problem? You can sync contacts from Google, Exchange, or Windows Live into Outlook, then it's a case of using that most amazing of things as Copy and Paste, then the cloud takes care of your syncing.
Travelling a lot, it makes sense to me to just let the phone deal with the sync - when something changes, it gets pushed to the phone automatically, and if you change something on the phone it's pushed to the cloud, where your computer picks it up automatically.
You sound like the perfect example of somebody who could benefit hugely from a push-sync service but doesn't want to...sorry to be frank, but that's just the way it seems to me...
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Thanks for the replies, folks, but it appears that I have not made myself clear. I have over 2000 contacts due to industry committee activities and customers. I have four email accounts within Outlook, only one of which is an Exchange account. I travel extensively. The MS instructions for moving my contacts to my phone 7 include having to import all of those not on the Exchange server to HotMail using CSV formats. There is no automatic update thereafter. Zune will only update the phone calendar from one 'primary' calendar.
I am in Ireland today and I was unable to sync with Zune because it expected me to change my location/region settings to match my current location (I live in Germany). When I changed my location to Ireland I was informed that my Zune would not work due to restrictions (content licensing, I assume). The same is true if I select Worldwide English. If I switch back my location back to Germany there are no English pages available but I still can't sync.
Many places I visit have no wired or wireless Internet and roaming charges are outrageous. So how do I keep my phone contacts, calendar and files up-to-date with my Outlook through all this?
All I did with WM 6.5 was plug my phone in to my laptop and ActiveSync took care of the update. No more.
And I still haven't been able to sync my phone.
It really looks like Phone 7 is focused on social sites and trying to sell me stuff rather than addressing my needs as a business user.
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I'm in the same boat sort of. I don't use Exchange, just MS Office an Outlook for my schedule and contacts. I only just got my first WP7 phone and previously I was a recent WM user migrating from my Axim x51v. Been using a PDA since WM2003. I really find it hard to fathom why MS would make it so that their products can't talk to each other. I've installed the connecter and still couldn't get it to sync up to Hotmail very easily. I've got my contacts in teh phone but still can't get my calender to move over.
My suggestion to you John would be to get yourself a Google account, which you can sync using the Exchange protocol into Outlook, and which the phone can sync automatically. That's probably the easiest way of doing things.
Hi all
Currently using an HTC Touch Pro 2 and was considering upgrading to HTC 7 Pro. Came across this post and am very concerned. Due to work data restrictions phone must be able to connect using ordinary USB cable. Is there no way that this can happen on WM7?
Thanks
Barney
P.S Was cosiderng WM7 v. Android and decided to stick with Windows (seeing as that is all I have ever had) This could be a deal breaker though, assuming Android phones can easily sync using USB.
My god where do you work!?
Unfortunately it would appear the draconian restrictions in your workplace are letting you down - neither WP7 or Android are designed to synchronise PIM data over USB. HTC have bodged together a not-fantastic workaround for Android which is probably your only choice...
Edit: By connect, what do you mean? Obviously any phone can connect, just not necessarily sync.
I do mean syncing of data (calendar, tasks, contacts, notes) over a USB cable. I gather there are apps that work on Android that allow this even though native android doesn't.
Looks like its going to have to be Android then. Looking at Samsung Galaxy S2 just now. Got another couple of months so Microsoft may sort this but somehow I don't think they will - must admit not sure why not, their mobile phone sales have dropped a lot over the past few years and with this sort of design I now know why. Been using them for around 7 years now but looks like I will be forced to move away.
Cheers
Barney
Edit: I gather that the iPhone natively supports direct sync to Microsoft Outlook - shudder, now having to include that in my shortlist! How did Microsoft get it soooo wrong!!!
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I do mean syncing of data (calendar, tasks, contacts, notes) over a USB cable. I gather there are apps that work on Android that allow this even though native android doesn't.
Looks like its going to have to be Android then. Looking at Samsung Galaxy S2 just now. Got another couple of months so Microsoft may sort this but somehow I don't think they will - must admit not sure why not, their mobile phone sales have dropped a lot over the past few years and with this sort of design I now know why. Been using them for around 7 years now but looks like I will be forced to move away.
Cheers
Barney
Edit: I gather that the iPhone natively supports direct sync to Microsoft Outlook - shudder, now having to include that in my shortlist! How did Microsoft get it soooo wrong!!!
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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+1 - couldn't agree more. These phones are made almost entirely for the internet.
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all over USB sync? u gotta be kidding. I ain't even going to bother with proving how dumb this post sounds.
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Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
By the way Google it and you will see that it is proving to be a major sticking point with business users and is turning users away from windows phone 7 with more windows mobile 6.5 phones still being sold then windows 7 with this being one of the reasons.
cheers
Barney
Barneyabz said:
Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
By the way Google it and you will see that it is proving to be a major sticking point with business users and is turning users away from windows phone 7 with more windows mobile 6.5 phones still being sold then windows 7 with this being one of the reasons.
cheers
Barney
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alot of workplaces support exchange server synching of contacts and the like, there's also a hotmail-outlook connector that will sync content back n forth accordingly,so I didn't miss anything.
really not picking an arguement - not sure if you are.
However for information sake only, for others that might read this thread, using hotmail connector means uploading and downloading all the info via Microsoft servers, and the other option of microsoft exchange, well not all firms use exchange.
Therefore if a company does not agree to one of these methods it means Windows Phone 7 is not an option
Barney
Here's my set-up:
Hotmail account (had for "ever") that I use to access MS services such as XBox Live, Skydrive, etc. --- this has become my centralized sync point just because it was empty and is well integrated
Personal domain accounts hosted with Google Apps --- these all sync to my WP7 phone
Various Gmail accounts --- again, all synced to my WP7 phone
Yahoo account --- again, synced to my WP7
Work calendar (not interested in getting e-mails) --- using Google Sync, my work calendar is pushed to one of my Gmail accounts.....so all of my appointments appear on my phone (http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/)
Facebook --- synced as well.
All total, I have 10 accounts listed in the settings. All of them sync flawlessly. All of my information is stored where I want it and blended on my phone. Contacts from my personal domain that are related to side business are available on my phone but aren't stored on my hotmail account. Contacts in Yahoo don't show up in my side-business e-mail accounts. Etc. The phone is the central hub, but information is still segmented just how I want it. When a contact spans accounts, I've linked them with that feature and all of the information shows up under one entry. I can pick home or mobile or work related info even though each piece is from a different account.
And when Mango is released and I have a single inbox, the phone will become even more of a central hub to everything.
Barneyabz said:
Think you missed my earlier post - feel free to look for it. Point is that work restrictions mean I will not be allowed to sync via the cloud. As I said in my earlier post, not going to argue or debate whether this is good or bad, no point.
Therefore I am now left with Android or iphone unless Microsoft get this sorted.
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I'm unsure of exactly why you're saying Android and iOS don't sync over the cloud. Neither of them have a method of syncing ONLY over USB.
For whatever reasons, you are unhappy with WP7, and it's likely just not the right solution for you. With that being said, why bother coming back to this thread unless you have a specific need to argue?
We get it. You feel that WP7 doesn't work for you. If there is a problem with the functionality or design, take that up with MS, and not with a fan board.
If you're going to argue semantics like amount of WM6.5 devices sold over WP7, at least have the courtesy to link your information. I'm going to continue to not take you or your concerns seriously until you actually understand how all of the major mobile OS devices actually sync.
Tell your IT department to get out of a cave and update their software solutions. Any new-ish version of Exchange Server will properly support OTA sync'ing of contacts.
Other than that, have fun in Apple land.
Actually I didn't say that iphone and Adnroid don't sync over the cloud, but you can do both therefore chosing to sync directly with outlook if you wish. Considering the first post on this thread, i.e. the point of the thread, is about this issue, I believe my posts have been on topic. Sorry if that has bothered you but believe it or not this is a major issue affecting many users out there.
Here are a couple of links to an article regarding windows mobile 6.5 outselling windows phone 7 during the winter
http://www.mobot.net/windows-mobile-outselling-windows-phone-7-23633
http://wmpoweruser.com/gartner-1-6-million-windows-phone-7-handsets-sold-to-customers-in-q1-2011/
By the way I didn't participate in this thread to argue, my original post is below
Barneyabz said:
Hi all
Currently using an HTC Touch Pro 2 and was considering upgrading to HTC 7 Pro. Came across this post and am very concerned. Due to work data restrictions phone must be able to connect using ordinary USB cable. Is there no way that this can happen on WM7?
Thanks
Barney
P.S Was cosiderng WM7 v. Android and decided to stick with Windows (seeing as that is all I have ever had) This could be a deal breaker though, assuming Android phones can easily sync using USB.
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I participated precisely because I like windows operating systems and was looking for help in getting it do what I want it to do, like a number of other posters on this thread. Instead I got a bunch of emails justifying what Microsoft have done rather then answering the post - why?
Now have carefully read this post and do believe that there is nothing wrong in it, its in the spirit of the board, which by the way I have been a member of for a long time, and will continue to be.
This will be my last post on this thread unless there is something posted relevant to my (and the starter of the thread) original question.
Folks,
Thanks for all your opinions.
It seems that I am not alone. Please refer to the 53 pages of complaint to MS regarding Win 7's inability to sync with Outlook in the way that some of us need to work:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2?page=50&tm=1312012136534
There is a 1000 contact limit to the number of contacts on HotMail. Tasks and notes are not sync'ed. I have no interest in exposing my data to the MS cloud when they have not published a security risk assessment and take no responsibility for data in their care.
I travel internationally; all the time. Having my phone sync automatically to get e-mail and updates costs me hundreds of dollars a month. Previously I could turn off data roaming and update my phone at night in my hotel with a cable.
I bought the HTC 7 Pro as the successor to my MDA Vario 5 (Touch Pro 2). After a frustrating week I have gone back to the Touch Pro 2 because WM6.5 works the way that I do.
My post was not meant to be an MS-bashing session. I was trying to understand and solve some major shortcomings with my new phone that affect the way I work.
So. I've got this new phone. The HTC 7 Pro hardware is quite nice now that I've upgraded the microSD card. Anybody know how to switch over to Android or back to WM6.5?
--Steve
With the Connector for MAC users they can directly drop and drag files via browser, transfer ringtones and all kinds of stuff that is either not possible or a pain with Zune. WT? is wrong with Microsoft and why are they favoring Apple?
Below are some features of the latest build of Connector:
Features:
• Full sync and import support for Apple Aperture software
• Drag and drop import of files from Browse Device
• Ringtone transfer support (for phones running Windows Phone 7.5 or later)
I've even heard rumors that you can Sync your Email contacts directly via USB
I have never used mac but..
If these things are true then screw MS. they don't even care about they own OS. lol
but, You can sync ringtones thru zone (Difficult, yes), and for drag and drop import there are some apps there in marketplace
Email contacts also can be done via Internet in phone
So, you don't lose anything important in windows.
Anywat, syncing is still waay too stupid in WP7. Why the hell should you email yourself a PDF, Doc, ppt to view them in your phone when you are using Windows? (Considering Mac gives a support to this)
Have you ever actually used itunes? It's a nightmare on a windows pc. They don't cater to them at all.
When i got my titan it only took me an hour to get everything on the new phone. Plugged it into Zune, drug over all pictures videos and songs. All contacts automatically came from my hotmail, facebook, twitter, and exchange. and downloaded re-installer which is free to bring my apps in via wifi. All work documents and onenote are on skydrive so nothing lost. Who emails? Just sync them to skydrive. Only thing that i didn't get was call / sms history, and saved game points. who cares about that anyway.
Last time i used itunes, my wife thought she was backing up and apparently never was. Nothing ever saved to the pc. Now this was with a 3gs about 2 years ago but still. I think Windows phone has the upperhand. Why do you think apple has icloud now? Itunes has become an afterthought.
For ringtones use Free Ringtones app or other ringtones app from the markplace.
Not arguing that sky dirve is a nice feature and a good thing to have but what about giving us the opption to sync directly? What is wrong with that? Yeah I've used iTunes before and it is a pain; that's why I bought a Windows Phone, I was so use to the simple way of just droping and draging of files on my Windows Mobile Phone and then Microsoft went and created Zune wich by the way doesn't allow back ups (only when upgrading) I have to use cab sender with a dummy xap to trick Zune into creating my back up.