[Q] Swap File, External Apps Partion, etc. - Sony Xperia L

Hello people,
I got my Xperia L a couple of days ago and I have it running successfully with Vengeance + Clean n Tweaked after a loooot of tries.
This is my first Android phone after HTC Wildfire! Loving it so far [Was uber slow out-of-the-box though]
Anyway I want to know how beneficial it is to create a swap file on the External SD card and use it. Does it make a big difference in performance? If yes how do I achieve this?
Secondly I really want to be able to move user apps to External Storage. I tried moving them from within the Clean Master app and it did work BUT when I restart my phone the Xperia Home(launcher) app keeps crashing(until the SD card is initialized I guess). The easy fix is to open the notification bar or something for a minute before going back into to the Home Screen. So yes this kinda works. Just want to know if there's a better way.
One idea comes to mind is making a separate ext2/3/4 partition on the External SD Card and using that for user apps. Will the home launcher still crash? I really don't want to use a custom launcher. If this is possible how do I do it?
I read about the mod to make External memory as Internal. Does everything work correctly with that? However if partitioning is possible I would prefer that as opposed to using the whole External SD Card as internal memory.
Lastly, since I don't have 10 posts yet I can't post to DEV threads yet so I want to thank people from about 10 to 15 different threads which I referred to in the last 24 hours. lol!
p.s. I have a SanDisk 32GB Class 10 Micro SD Card

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I think what you searching for is Link2SD
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w1040 said:
I think what you searching for is Link2SD
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Thanks for the reply. I read all about the app and I think It MIGHT cause trouble at some point so I'm gonna stay away from it for now. Maybe when I want to play a HUGE game I'll use it. Good to know how to!
Anyone wants to shed some light regarding the swap file question?

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[MOD] Swap Internal SD and External SD

Hey everyone,
Found this mod for the Galaxy S (Or SGSII, not sure what the i9003 is), which switches the Internal and External SD cards, according to the Android OS. Personally, I have a lot more space of my external SD and would like games and such to store their data there, instead of on my smaller internal SD. Some apps like Titanium backup can change their data locations, but Games such as Gameloft games and the like cant have their game data moved to the External SD card atm.
This looks like a great alternative to this issue, could this hack be adapted to the G2x?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
Although I could see how you would think this would be in development, this post should actually go in Q&A.
That being said, this would be a very useful modification.
Edit: My apologies. Apparently you posted in precisely the right forum. My apprehension arose from the fact that so many people say 'BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS MODDD??!?!' and it just clutters things up so my immediate reaction was to motion to have it moved. Good deal bringing it to Krylon and Tweezit's attention
I couldnt decide between Q&A and Development for this topic, as it involves porting or adapting a hack for another phone to the G2x.
MODS: Please move this to Q&A, if necessary.
EDIT: Apparently not, this seems to be a development topic now
Here is a file Be warned I have not tested this. If it messes your phone up I am not held responsible. **Personally I would let another dev look at this to be on the safe side as I am not 100% sure on this.**
You will have to extract it and use root explorer to push to /system/etc/
Oh I needed to clarify this was on 2.2.2 so it may differ on 2.3.
Since we have a little interest, we'll leave it for a day or so and see if anything comes of it.
I've PM'd krylon to take a look at Tweezit's vold. (sounds like a nasty STD).
overground said:
Since we have a little interest, we'll leave it for a day or so and see if anything comes of it.
I've PM'd krylon to take a look at Tweezit's vold. (sounds like a nasty STD).
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Smart move as I spent all of 2 minutes looking through the file as I am in a rush to leave
Later guys ^^
I'm looking at this now. Your biggest issue is you are going to have to have 3 different versions... well... in reality 2 different versions. CM based and Non-CM Based.
And if someone flashes the wrong one...they are hosed and will have to restore from a backup
ok, after reviewing Tweezits vold, Bionix vold, and CM7 vold, tweezit's would break mounting.
The reason being, with the introduction of Tegra, the vold changed for it.
I'll have to do some testing, but making the internal to external switch should be fairly easy.
krylon360 said:
I'm looking at this now. Your biggest issue is you are going to have to have 3 different versions... well... in reality 2 different versions. CM based and Non-CM Based.
And if someone flashes the wrong one...they are hosed and will have to restore from a backup
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Eh not bad in my eyes I always do backups
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krylon360 said:
ok, after reviewing Tweezits vold, Bionix vold, and CM7 vold, tweezit's would break mounting.
The reason being, with the introduction of Tegra, the vold changed for it.
I'll have to do some testing, but making the internal to external switch should be fairly easy.
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Is there a way to have setting like a switch to interchange between the two
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Suprah said:
Eh not bad in my eyes I always do backups
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last time I did a backup was when I was testing EXT4/3 restore.
Lol I'm a rom crack addicr
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We need to decide on a standard. Unfortunately some people don't have SD cards but I'm sure most people would that visit here.
I'm for the switch cause i hate crap installing to my internal drive. Cm already made the switch.
player911 said:
We need to decide on a standard. Unfortunately some people don't have SD cards but I'm sure most people would that visit here.
I'm for the switch cause i hate crap installing to my internal drive. Cm already made the switch.
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I'm with you. Maybe we should put together a poll or something...
Multiple versions just confuse the new guys. Would be nice if there was some priority... Like use SD as first choice then fall back on internal if SD is not present.
That still complicates things as people wont know what's going on.
****best idea****
If CWM flips it by default then you can just streamline everything and make a public service announcement on the CWM download page that they will be flipped and an SD is required for flashing. Makes sense to use a SD for flashing anyway.
Even a 2gb is plenty for some Roms and app storage. Save the internal for personal music and other media. I hope no one rocks less then that these days.
Plus if you use internal storage I can see certain scenarios popping up where they are boot looping and lost their access into the internal files. I can't mount using 3.1.0.1 external. If it werent for my SD I'd be stuck hardcore.
player911 said:
Multiple versions just confuse the new guys. Would be nice if there was some priority... Like use SD as first choice then fall back on internal if SD is not present.
That still complicates things as people wont know what's going on.
****best idea****
If CWM flips it by default then you can just streamline everything and make a public service announcement on the CWM download page that they will be flipped and an SD is required for flashing. Makes sense to use a SD for flashing anyway.
Even a 2gb is plenty for some Roms and app storage. Save the internal for personal music and other media. I hope no one rocks less then that these days.
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I'm kind of with you on this one. I use all of my roms and such for the external SD card and everything else for internal.
player911 said:
Multiple versions just confuse the new guys. Would be nice if there was some priority... Like use SD as first choice then fall back on internal if SD is not present.
That still complicates things as people wont know what's going on.
****best idea****
If CWM flips it by default then you can just streamline everything and make a public service announcement on the CWM download page that they will be flipped and an SD is required for flashing. Makes sense to use a SD for flashing anyway.
Even a 2gb is plenty for some Roms and app storage. Save the internal for personal music and other media. I hope no one rocks less then that these days.
Plus if you use internal storage I can see certain scenarios popping up where they are boot looping and lost their access into the internal files. I can't mount using 3.1.0.1 external. If it werent for my SD I'd be stuck hardcore.
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Good point however 5gb of internal space is not enough for me since I have 10gbs of music onmy sd card. I wish there was a way to have a switch function that will enable you to choose which sd crd to download to
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I've attached the CWM flashable .zip of the mod I've been running for awhile that will swap your SDcards. Never been able to get it to mount the external card as a folder inside /sdcard/. Didn't really want to release it until I did, but here ya go anyway
BTW, is it just me, or do init.d scripts not work in CM7?
This is for CyanogenMod only!
I don't have the volds from other builds on hand to mod them....
WOW! I come back from long day of work and find all this discussion.....awesome!! Thanks for chiming in guys. I def understand there will have to be at least 2 versions cause of CM, but as its a file, couldnt a simple app\script be created to swap it back and forth, after detecting CM or not? It may be a lil beyond my scripting knowledge, for the detection portion at least.
I see a ton of useful reasons for this switch, as the 5GB isnt the 13ishGB that the Galaxy S has and doesn't quite satisfy the requirements of a "primary" sdcard IMO. The 5GB would be useful as an "_InternalSD" folder bind\mount (whatever is being used), with the External SD as the main SD card. I'll list a few useful reasons why.....
Off the top of my head......
If your a serious gamer and you have a TON of games that have downloadable files put to the SD card, that 5GB will go quick (Gameloft I'm looking at you)
External SD can hold WAY more nandroid backups than Internal SD, and ROM Manager would recognize them (I acknowledge the external sd issue is not really an issue w/ the two ext4 recoveries)
hiko36 said:
Although I could see how you would think this would be in development, this post should actually go in Q&A.
That being said, this would be a very useful modification.
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I humbly disagree.... If anything it would belong in the General or Development. It is a work towards development and there is no "question" being asked. Just because it isn't a ROM, doesn't make it any less important to work on the phone.
Just my .02

move 2 sd question

I was playing around with my recently purchased tf300t, installing numerous versions of a move2sd card app and not having any sucess getting them to work. I finally stubbled across a thread asking just about what I am asking. In the thread, someone states that with all the free space on the internal sd, why do you really need a move2sd app.
So I want to ask those who have a tf300t, do you also use a move2sd app.
If so, why do you use it with so much internal memory available and which app do you use and how do you get it work properly.
Thanks.
B
Since Android 4, you can no longer move apps to SD AFAIK
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android devices usually have there internal memory partitioned into 2 separate parts the first is a small internal memory where the apps get installed and a bigger one where data goes, the tf300 hasnt been partitioned so it just has one big internal memory so there is no need for apps that move apps to the sd card and it doesnt have one
I personally use the internal storage strictly for apps. I use a micro SD for any personal media. Just easier for me to keep organized that way. I find that internal storage gets too cluttered.
thats exactly what i do lmao
definitely dont use this any more...haven't since i sold my original moto droid. that thing had like half a GB of storage and it was completely necessary to handle my 70+ apps.
not any more though.
I too feel its not needed but for people who think it is not possible ..here is a way using link2sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664838
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Rediculous! Can't move apps to SD!

Is there an app that will allow me to move apps/games to ext sd on Note 10.1? (Not Rooted). Thanks.
if you aren't willing to root then you are gonna have to live with it. apps to sd was killed with ICS. you can easily reset your status and unroot for warranty purposes using the multitude of threads related to these issues. just an fyi, a lot of folks won't be as nice explaining this, be warned. someone may offer you cheese for your whine. they have done this to sell you the 32gb. I load my sd with music, pictures, and movies. I don't download big apps so it's no problem for me. but those are the facts. don't shoot the messenger
Thanks for info. I appreciate it.
If you root, there's an app called directory bind. Works perfect for me.
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If you root, links2sd is a nice easy hack as well. Makes my old HTC Desire just about usable...
you have no choice but to root if you want to move app data to a sd card, its the best thing you can do tbh.
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you have no choice but to root if you want to move app data to a sd card, its the best thing you can do tbh.
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Guess you are right. Shame tho. IMO
No there is no way without you rooting even if you root you need to have int-d support for you to be able to do that it is not a simple thing n hence would not advice
Mind you. if you root then you can use a 64gb sd card as the internal memory with a mod in developement section. Just don't remove sd card if you use....

SD Card

I have a SD Card in my phone but I cannot transfer any app to the sd card. I did this before for games and large apps. On my old phone, it would just move the app itself and leave the data on my phone.
I noticed the actual phone storage is /sdcard and the actual sdcard is /external1.
Is there a way to change this or work around it? I'm rooted if that helps.
I believe google actually removed the ability to do this on 4.0+ that said yes, i believe there are ways to do this still but it does require some hackery to make it work. I think cyanogenmod still can do this so once that rom is more ready for prime time that may be an easier solution. Someone else here likely has a better answer for you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2209573

Installing apps onto the external SD card?

I just rooted a couple of days ago and flashed cyanogen, but it seems to lack this option, which is an issue on 8gbs.. Any work around?
Any alternative roms that allow this?
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swee08315 said:
I just rooted a couple of days ago and flashed cyanogen, but it seems to lack this option, which is an issue on 8gbs.. Any work around?
Any alternative roms that allow this?
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Google took the ability to store apps on the sd card out of android in their honeycomb os and has not looked back since.
There are ways around this, but they all pretty much require you to root the device at a minimum to "unlock" it.
From there it is just a matter of which way to accomplish it. There are some roms floating around that could restore the ability of app2sd functionality, as well as some tweaks that will swap the sd card with internal storage so you can utilize up to 64gb sd cards on most devices.
I do not have the links, but others here do. Quick searches may find them or someone may come along and post them for you. All I can think of is the Link2SD app.
You didnt say what tab you have, but check these two threads for additional info-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881967
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