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Hi all, I'm usually over at the vox section, but my daughter wants one of these tornados. I know nothing about them and was wondering if this would be a good purchase for $109.00 usd. Can you tell me good/bad about these phones if possible. Thank you all for your help!
Come on people, 26 of you have viewed this, I REALLY need an answer soon! Can you recommend this phone or not? PLEASE!
If you mean $109 including shipping and almost new phone then yes go for it, otherwise add $20 more and get new one from ebay.
About this phone:
Well I am sure others know more about it, but I am going to say that only thing missing in it is GPS. I mean I dont see what can any new phone do more than this one. You can use wifi for free internet (that means free skype calls all over the globe), watch movies in great quality, play music, put so many optional home screens and so many free programs as it's a windows based phone etc etc
You actualy might say its a mini notebook phone
Me and my wife both have them and we love them.
bllohin said:
If you mean $109 including shipping and almost new phone then yes go for it, otherwise add $20 more and get new one from ebay.
About this phone:
Well I am sure others know more about it, but I am going to say that only thing missing in it is GPS. I mean I dont see what can any new phone do more than this one. You can use wifi for free internet (that means free skype calls all over the globe), watch movies in great quality, play music, put so many optional home screens and so many free programs as it's a windows based phone etc etc
You actualy might say its a mini notebook phone
Me and my wife both have them and we love them.
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I agree with bllohin and recently bought a brand new one for my son for almost the same amount; see my sig at the bottom of this reply
The only issue is the camera is not much as compared to more expensive models. If you are (or your daughter) is brave enough to flash modified ROMs which are released in this forum then there is much improvement (but not the camera because it is hardware dependant).
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polarbair said:
Hi all, I'm usually over at the vox section, but my daughter wants one of these tornados. I know nothing about them and was wondering if this would be a good purchase for $109.00 usd. Can you tell me good/bad about these phones if possible. Thank you all for your help!
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It's superb phone and I really like it. Upgraded to WM6.1.
Has tons of free programs / games that you can add.
I pity those brainwashed people who buy iPod while they can get a better phone for like 7-8 times less
Go for it! I bought it a few weeks ago, at first , i still feel unsure on this phone and O2 Graphite ,but i finally choose this one, for it mostly include all the functions on a cell phone ,and there are lots of resource on net.if a new one cost $100, it is much more cheaper than mine.... so go for it ~~ you will soon enjoy it~~
I love my tornado to be honest with you, i don't really need to upgrade it. Especially with all the ROM updates you can get here, they really put new life into the phone! especially the new 6.1 edition.
HOWEVER
I'd also like to get my hands on the new S730 that is basicly identical but has boosted up features and the slide out keyboard, which for me would be great as i do more typing then talking on the phone.
Other then that, i don't see any other reason. This phone is SuperB! has everything in it!
I agree that the Tornado is one of the best smartphones HTC ever released. I have the Tempo variant running 6.1 and I like it as much as my Touch Diamond! The only things I will say against it are that the RAM/ROM is a little low (64/64) and it could be a little thinnner than it is. And it would be nice if it had built-in GPS/3G.
The price you are being offered is a little on the high side. I just bought mine for about $100 new.
I have my android ordered and arriving tomorrow at the store. I haven't paid yet, however I'm fully planning to. I would however like to know what the current users think about their phones. What do you like about it? Are there any good games for it? Can it do any crazy things? I am moving from a touch HD (I broke mine yesterday) to the magic. I'd like to hear some stories as to why it's a good move.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Caid.
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I've been having my phone for almost two weeks now, and I just got the time to do something with the phone, exams were taking up a lot of time and stuff like that.
But it seems like it is a super nice phone. New roms with altered content pop out all the time, new applications in the market are appearing rapidly. The community is also pretty big and it is fairly easy to get help with your phone. This is probably the best phone I have owned so far. You are able to do so much with it, a lot of costumisation and so on.
I inted to take a look at the API for the apps and start to make my own pretty soon, I am looking forward to that and to have my apps in the market and be used by other people.
I'd say get one. The only cons is the black Magic gets greasy a bit fast. The Hero might handle this better since it has a teflon coating.
The Google Ion I (bought it in early June) works great for me right now. It does what I need in a mobile device (emails - POP, IMAP, and Exchange, internet, fun apps, tethering, and etc). It's easier to flash so I could use different ROM's. The main thing is that it's an unlocked/unbranded 3G phone for T-Mobile US. We don't have that many here to chose in the US for T-Mobile customers (2 only - Google Ion & Pharos Traveler 137, a WM6.1 phone).
bachviet said:
The Google Ion I (bought it in early June) works great for me right now. It does what I need in a mobile device (emails - POP, IMAP, and Exchange, internet, fun apps, tethering, and etc). It's easier to flash so I could use different ROM's. The main thing is that it's an unlocked/unbranded 3G phone for T-Mobile US. We don't have that many here to chose in the US for T-Mobile customers (2 only - Google Ion & Pharos Traveler 137, a WM6.1 phone).
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If you dont mind me asking... can you please let us know where you bought your Google Ion? Also does it work with the T-Mobile US 3G netowrk. I am looking to get one... I just sold me Touch HD and wanted to get the Rhodium (TP2), but Iam also interested in the Android device. Since the Hero does not work on the Tmobile bands, I would like to get the this one.. But Tmoble US is delaying the release. So looking at other options..
thanks for your help in advance.
I bought it on local craigslist and yes it works with T-Mobile 3G.
Hey all, I am thinking of getting either the HD2 or a nexus one subsidized, since thats all I can afford. I will decide on the 30th, but I am stuck on which device to get.
HD2- awesome, big screen slick and clean, WM (Yes I like WM )
Price - 100 at amazon
Nexus One - Froyo, small slick and nice in the hands. Android
Price - 180 at Google.
Which one should I get? Would either of these require a credit check with online purchase?
100 on amazon??
100 what? Pounds, Euros?, Dollars?
I imagine with a USA plan...
Place the link!!!
Go for Leo!
I am also a WM lover so no Android for me at least in 2 years...
Its out of stock, but I will provide links when its up, I still have till the 30th, or the 1st. So that's plenty of time. It is $130 on wirefly. These are both T-Mobile USA versions.
The only reason I am second guessing the Leo is because of the splurge of major developer support for the Nexus One. Lots of things are going to it while WM is left in the cold dark. I know I would rather have WM but that's still stuck in my mind.
I see mate, I´ll stick with WM
let us know the links
Thanks,
hd2 is wayyyy funner
i know i don't have one but i've used one
What do you guys think? Shoot. . . .I have to do a credit check, and use my ssn to get either phone.
All I have to do now is wait till the 30th then I'm gonna get it the first so the bill always comes the first.
I think I am going to go with the HD2, is amazon a good 3rd party mobile phone retailer? Meaning do they screw you contractual wise?
I think amazon is pretty reputable. I just got my HD2 YESTERDAY. Awesome device, the screen isn't as big as you think it might be though. It's really very pocketable. No complaints, at all. Make sure the first thing you install is cookies home tab mod though.
Hardware wise, I would prefer the HTC HD2. But, I personally prefer Android over Winmo.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Get with the program...go with the Nexus Android 2.2!
Soo hard to choose!
It´s your call mate
You had some comments from those who are in favor of Android and from those we prefer WM.
Anyway both devices will make you happy
I think I am gonna go with the HD2. Since its cheaper, but idk how I am going to do that credit check thing.
For me it came down to ugly phone vs. Windows Mobile.
Fortunately I like Windows Mobile.
while looking for a gift for my wife, I played with the nexus one, I bought the HD2. Live wallpaper is cool but the HD2 is so much better in terms of being able to customize it and what was a plus for us was that we were already familiar with the user interface.
Does amazon require a deposit, when you do the credit check? What is the maximum amount you will have to pay?
If u use 3g make sure to get the telstra version.
I have mentioned this before. T-Mobile USA version. . . .
yea for me too i like wmo but also like android, iven playing whit a moto dext whit android 1.6 and i like it so far,,,
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If u use 3g make sure to get the telstra version.
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and as far as im aware, thats version goes for a lot more (and can really only find it on ebay)
I really love my Samsung Captivate phone from ATT. It's one of the better phones i have had from ATT...mind you not the best but one of the better phones. Recently I have become extremly frustrated with the whole froyo update situation. First the official release was going to come out in September then pushed back to November and now from what im hearing not until December through a OTA update from ATT. When I got my phone I was told by the ATT rep that an update from 2.1 to froyo 2.2 would becoming soon. I went on ahead and got the Captivate against my better judgment. That was this past summer and i paid 199.99 to upgrade. Well now it's November and all we get are rumors about an update that may or may not happen. Now that same captivate is selling for 129.99 at Best Buy. Now I feel ripped off, not only from ATT but now from Samsung. For now on whenever I purchase a new phone I will buy the phone based on what it can do at that time not based on what it might be able to do later on down the line, that way i won't be so frustrated. My older brother has an iphone 4 and now im really starting to get upset because now he is streaming netflix movies and doing a host of other things with his phone that my phone may or may not be able to do. I know that developmentally the iphone is limited but...you get what you pay for out the box and your not waiting for the phone to be able to do something else later on down the line. Im seriously thinking of just caughing up the money and picking up an iphone 4 from the Apple store this weekend. If I do that then I will give away my Craptivate to anybody who wants it because i wouldn't feel right charging someone for it being as though it's already outdated with 2.1 firmware on it.
Ill buy it if you want to sell it
djfrost40 said:
I really love my Samsung Captivate phone from ATT. It's one of the better phones i have had from ATT...mind you not the best but one of the better phones. Recently I have become extremly frustrated with the whole froyo update situation. First the official release was going to come out in September then pushed back to November and now from what im hearing not until December through a OTA update from ATT. When I got my phone I was told by the ATT rep that an update from 2.1 to froyo 2.2 would becoming soon. I went on ahead and got the Captivate against my better judgment. That was this past summer and i paid 199.99 to upgrade. Well now it's November and all we get are rumors about an update that may or may not happen. Now that same captivate is selling for 129.99 at Best Buy. Now I feel ripped off, not only from ATT but now from Samsung. For now on whenever I purchase a new phone I will buy the phone based on what it can do at that time not based on what it might be able to do later on down the line, that way i won't be so frustrated. My older brother has an iphone 4 and now im really starting to get upset because now he is streaming netflix movies and doing a host of other things with his phone that my phone may or may not be able to do. I know that developmentally the iphone is limited but...you get what you pay for out the box and your not waiting for the phone to be able to do something else later on down the line. Im seriously thinking of just caughing up the money and picking up an iphone 4 from the Apple store this weekend. If I do that then I will give away my Craptivate to anybody who wants it because i wouldn't feel right charging someone for it being as though it's already outdated with 2.1 firmware on it.
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First, you shouldn't be upset about the price dropping. All electronics have a dramatic price drop after a release. You should expect that.
Second, there is a Froyo update coming out for the phone. No doubt about it. We have already seen it released for the international version. We have two leaked releases for the Captivate. If there wasn't an update coming out, Samsung wouldn't be spending the time in making these builds. Also, you bought a Captivate with 2.1. The box doesn't say, Android 2.1 with a 2.2 update coming soon.
I also wouldn't call Android 2.1 "outdated". Compared to Android 2.2, yes it is outdated. But compared to other mobile operating systems, it's advanced. I cannot think of anything iOS can do that Android 2.1 cannot.
Now, with regard to applications: this last year has been huge for Android. They now have the volume of users and where there's volume, the developers can make money. You speak of Netflix, they will be releasing an Android app in Q1 of next year.
It could be that this phone is too advanced for you. iPhones are great and easy to use. If you don't understand all of the enhancements that Android brings, then maybe an iPhone is best for you. If being able to stream Netflix NOW instead of 2 - 3 months from now is that important to you, then get an iPhone and trade off:
Open source goodness
Awesome community support
Phone customization
Flawless google integration
More hardware options (you're not stuck with just one style phone)
Mass storage capabilities
You're not dependent on iTunes
File structure access
Build your own apps (google app inventor)
Up to 48 GB of storage
Replaceable battery
$5 monthly insurance (at&t doesn't offer insurance for the iPhone)
REAL multitasking
Memory management (If you choose to manually do it. Android is great at managing memory itself.)
The awesome Widgets
Notification bar
Oh, and the list above doesn't even mention any of the infinite possibilities if you chose to root your phone.
My question is why do you need the "official release"? The leaked version is probably just as good (I saw probably since OTA isn't out). I love it and am not really looking forward to the official one. Also most android phones are not in 2.2 so you really shouldn't feel outdated. By the way Amazon gives this phone for free (well 1 cent to be exact).
Edit: Didn't see above post; says it all better than me.
Frustrating, ain't it? Also part of the fun of the gadget.
Heck, searching for news on when the update'll be released is how I get through the workday! (I've also spent too much time flashing different incarnations of Cognitian's ROMs - Which are great, by the way).
The update will come, then we'll all be clammoring for Gingerbread!
@skinien - Great reply!
Not being able to watch Netflix movie on your phone really has nothing to do with Samsung, AT&T or the Captivate. Netflix decided to release their Android version later than the other platforms so there is nothing anyone can do.
So the real question is why do you need 2.2 right now? What capability are you looking for that will only work in 2.2? Personally, the only thing I need 2.2 for is voice dial over bluetooth.
cool story bro
There will always be an OS, hardware, phone coming soon/out right now better than what you have. *****ing about what you have is certainly an option. Not a good one, IMO, but definitely an option.
I am still using stock 2.1, rooted, with sideloaded Wireless Tether and Flash 10.1, and launcherpro hides the bloat.
With the exception of being able to moves apps to the sd, what is missing?
Who needs FroYo, anyway?
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I really love my Samsung Captivate phone from ATT. It's one of the better phones i have had from ATT...mind you not the best but one of the better phones. Recently I have become extremly frustrated with the whole froyo update situation. First the official release was going to come out in September then pushed back to November and now from what im hearing not until December through a OTA update from ATT. When I got my phone I was told by the ATT rep that an update from 2.1 to froyo 2.2 would becoming soon. I went on ahead and got the Captivate against my better judgment. That was this past summer and i paid 199.99 to upgrade. Well now it's November and all we get are rumors about an update that may or may not happen. Now that same captivate is selling for 129.99 at Best Buy. Now I feel ripped off, not only from ATT but now from Samsung. For now on whenever I purchase a new phone I will buy the phone based on what it can do at that time not based on what it might be able to do later on down the line, that way i won't be so frustrated. My older brother has an iphone 4 and now im really starting to get upset because now he is streaming netflix movies and doing a host of other things with his phone that my phone may or may not be able to do. I know that developmentally the iphone is limited but...you get what you pay for out the box and your not waiting for the phone to be able to do something else later on down the line. Im seriously thinking of just caughing up the money and picking up an iphone 4 from the Apple store this weekend. If I do that then I will give away my Craptivate to anybody who wants it because i wouldn't feel right charging someone for it being as though it's already outdated with 2.1 firmware on it.
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Well..if you will feel bad selling it.I'll gladly pay you for the shipping of it to my home. Feel free to get the I-phone if this is what you are wanting to do. They work great for what they are.I bought both of my sons theirs last August when I got 2 Captivates for my wife and myself.So I can always use a spare one
Your not alone in your feelings of anger over not getting what was promised,I too am a bit pissed off about it as well. I do know that in time it will be available in a official capacity..but in the mean time I'll wait it out like everyone else is doing that wants it. Sooner or later there will be a completely stable custom rom for it that isn't a PIA to load and has everything working properly on it.This is what I am looking forward too,but again it is a waiting game for me and many others..
Feel free to PM me your mailing address for the shipping cost if you elect to give it away..
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Mac
Screw the official release, get froyo now!. nothing like free tethering. Im sorry but next flex streaming? who cares i got flash! i get hulu streaming lets see an iphone do that.. my droid takes a poopoo on the iphone.
There are plenty of awesome, free ROMs here. Try one on for size before you go spending hundreds of dollars to be told what you can or can't do with the phone you just bought.
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You have word reference on android, not even a close one on iphone. I dont really use my ipod touch to watch netflix. It gets stuck a lot and the screen is way to small. The only netflix app I used is netflix on windows media center. Why are you frustrated about netflix on a small screen now. And by the way, we have swype keyboard, it if not even on evo 4g. And my rooted phone has many paid apps and games on it, but I got them for free. You never need to jailbreak it to install some free games.
Iphone doesn't have the xda app, hahaha, just a joke.
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Others have said it but if your "smart" enough to make your way to the XDA developers forums you should have no problem flashing one of the 10+ 2.2 roms in the android dev subforum.
Who's going to really use the official att 2.2 with all its bloat ware anyway?
Iphone is for kids that want to show off their fart apps at school and for grandmas and grandmas who cant use a phone. On the other had captivate is for people who like to flash, unbrick their phones and explore the open world of android with will be the furture of mobile devices. Iphone has been the same for the past 3 years and people get horny when a new iphone comes out and it caj do copy paste wow!
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skinien said:
First, you shouldn't be upset about the price dropping. All electronics have a dramatic price drop after a release. You should expect that.
Second, there is a Froyo update coming out for the phone. No doubt about it. We have already seen it released for the international version. We have two leaked releases for the Captivate. If there wasn't an update coming out, Samsung wouldn't be spending the time in making these builds. Also, you bought a Captivate with 2.1. The box doesn't say, Android 2.1 with a 2.2 update coming soon.
I also wouldn't call Android 2.1 "outdated". Compared to Android 2.2, yes it is outdated. But compared to other mobile operating systems, it's advanced. I cannot think of anything iOS can do that Android 2.1 cannot.
Now, with regard to applications: this last year has been huge for Android. They now have the volume of users and where there's volume, the developers can make money. You speak of Netflix, they will be releasing an Android app in Q1 of next year.
It could be that this phone is too advanced for you. iPhones are great and easy to use. If you don't understand all of the enhancements that Android brings, then maybe an iPhone is best for you. If being able to stream Netflix NOW instead of 2 - 3 months from now is that important to you, then get an iPhone and trade off:
Open source goodness
Awesome community support
Phone customization
Flawless google integration
More hardware options (you're not stuck with just one style phone)
Mass storage capabilities
You're not dependent on iTunes
File structure access
Build your own apps (google app inventor)
Up to 48 GB of storage
Replaceable battery
$5 monthly insurance (at&t doesn't offer insurance for the iPhone)
REAL multitasking
Memory management (If you choose to manually do it. Android is great at managing memory itself.)
The awesome Widgets
Notification bar
Oh, and the list above doesn't even mention any of the infinite possibilities if you chose to root your phone.
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Oh okay! you see thats why i like this website for folks like you! so there is a sample of froyo available to download from this site? Thats nice!! i will look for it and give it a try. I think i can hold off on getting rid of it not too mention 400.00 for an iphone is pretty steap....lol!!! So i guess for now im still a android phone owner. I just need to be a little more patient i guess. But tonight when i get off work ill be trying to do the root thing on my phone so that i can tryout the preliminary froyo on my captivate. Thanks for the information I appreciate it.
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You have word reference on android, not even a close one on iphone. I dont really use my ipod touch to watch netflix. It gets stuck a lot and the screen is way to small. The only netflix app I used is netflix on windows media center. Why are you frustrated about netflix on a small screen now. And by the way, we have swype keyboard, it if not even on evo 4g. And my rooted phone has many paid apps and games on it, but I got them for free. You never need to jailbreak it to install some free games.
Iphone doesn't have the xda app, hahaha, just a joke.
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Yeah your right, ive been reading a lot of responses to my post and from what i gather i have the better phone in the Captivate vs the iphone 4. I think i will keep it. Plus i just heard that you can root the phone and add a sample of froyo that should hold me over until the official froyo arrives. So Thanks a lot for your advise. I will be keeping my Captivate...not too mention 400.00 for an iphone is crazy.
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Iphone is for kids that want to show off their fart apps at school and for grandmas and grandmas who cant use a phone. On the other had captivate is for people who like to flash, unbrick their phones and explore the open world of android with will be the furture of mobile devices. Iphone has been the same for the past 3 years and people get horny when a new iphone comes out and it caj do copy paste wow!
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LOL!!!! okay okay guys I get it! I have the better phone vs the iphone 4, I will be keeping my Captivate, i just have to be a little more patient with it thats all. Im excited about trying out that froyo sample available from this site though. I'll be giving it a try tonight! thanks for all the information!
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Others have said it but if your "smart" enough to make your way to the XDA developers forums you should have no problem flashing one of the 10+ 2.2 roms in the android dev subforum.
Who's going to really use the official att 2.2 with all its bloat ware anyway?
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Your right, i have the official 2.1 ATT rom now loaded with stuff i don't even use...lol!!! I think i will be keeping my Captivate and trying out a couple of those new roms on it. Thanks guys!!! thats why i love this site!!!
Hi. I currently use the Samsung Note 2 (Verizon). I have been very pleased with the phone. While I have intended to root the phone (have never rooted a phone before), I never seemed to have the time to sit down and do the required research before jumping into it. The phone is essential to my work, particularly Google Maps, and even more particularly the My Places feature of the previous version of Maps. As many of you may know, the recent OTA update has locked down boot loader security and has also forced users of the old version of Maps to upgrade to the new version. When it rains, it pours. As I understand it, there has not been a workaround discovered for this, and the Note II being an 'older' phone now, rooting and unlocking may be a longer wait than I am prepared for.
This has gotten me so angry and depressed, as I vitally need the old version of Maps for my work. I am disgusted with Google for forcing this change on me. If I could pay $100 for a safe and stable Maps app, I would not hesitate. Google's "free" app has driven most every competitor out of the market, so I really don't see an alternative to the old Google Maps.
I am considering just buying an unlocked Note III, as I am only one year into my contract. I am assuming that I could then root this and put a pre-4.3 stock ROM on it, and that by doing that, then I could have my old Maps back. What do you think? Is this silly? Is there a better way? Advice is much appreciated!
Thanks.