My apologizes to create a new thread about Sense 5 which seems to be a hot and controversial topic right now.
I've got my hands on that controversial ROM with Sense 5 a couple days ago just because I was curious to see what kind of improvements Sense 5 over Sense 4+ will offer.
I don't really want to discuss a ROM itself, only Sense 5 is what interests me at this point.
To be honest I did not like it at all. Sure, it was snappier than my current ViperS 3.1.2 with Sense 4+ but besides Blinkfeed which I hardly care about it did not seem to offer any major improvements...
To me what made Sense and HTC phones preferred choice (besides hardware + design) were Sense looks and widgets that are mostly gone from Sense 5. I rely on mail and messaging widgets daily and also calendar/task widgets with my upcoming appointments have a prominent placement.
Without these I can just install any deSensed ROM on my HTC Sensation and slap any good launcher on top of it to get a similar results...
I know that I am coming late to the party, Sense 5 has been available for ages now, but until today I never had a chance to try it on my beloved Sensation. After my recent experience I will probably stick with Sense 4+ for a very long time because it works really well for me and I have also decided to postpone purchase of a new cellphone (I am still waiting for HTC to introduce a new flagship phone with micro SD slot included - HTC One Max is not what I am looking for).
I would like to hear about what are your thoughts as far Sense 5 is concerned and why should I forget about my favorite Sense 4 widgets...
Im not a Sense fan, but Sense5 should be lighter and faster.
jkolner said:
Im not a Sense fan, but Sense5 should be lighter and faster.
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As I have mentioned in my post, it is definitely snappier (because it's lighter = missing features). Obviously I use specific apps to do what I am trying to accomplish but for me specifically what made Sense attractive choice were widgets that provide needed information with one glance. These missing features in Sense 5 is what makes me to consider abandoning HTC phones all together and try different brand (Sony Z1 looks good to me).
Maybe I should rephrase what I am trying to say... "What makes Sense 5 better then lets say Nova launcher for example?"
I haven't tested one yet, but I LOVE how Sense looks.
I want my phone to look nice too
Nicx59 said:
I haven't tested one yet, but I LOVE how Sense looks.
I want my phone to look nice too
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I wholeheartedly agree, looks of Sense was originally what attracted me to HTC phones in a first place, in my case starting with HTC Diamond. Damn, I am probably getting old :crying: since I still like "retro" Sense 4 design bit more than oversimplified Sense 5 icons. But it's mostly features that I value. My current ViperS 3.1.2 with it's tweaks makes my Sensation an amazing phone. The only thing I was hoping for with Sense 5 was faster, snappier performance without giving up on features.
Just give it some time. The official ViperS Sense 5 (with tweaks) isn't even out yet.
If you're looking for some widgets & features, I think some modders will take care of that.
And well, thank god for custom ROMs we can pretty much have any version of Sense on Sensation. 7 different versions! Damn.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I used the calendar, calculator, music and Notes widget the most, and they're gone from Sense 5. That's pretty much the only thing I miss, I really don't know why they would throw it out, it was something that differentiated sense from other launchers. Now it's all the same to me.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I used the calendar, calculator, music and Notes widget the most, and they're gone from Sense 5. That's pretty much the only thing I miss, I really don't know why they would throw it out, it was something that differentiated sense from other launchers. Now it's all the same to me.
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That is what I mean...
I have Asus Memo Pad 10, Tegra 3 makes it pretty fast and cost/value is very good as well. I have replaced original (slow) launcher with Nova launcher (currently my favorite) and decided to reduce number of screens to 3 although I might as well do fine with one only.
With general lack of useful widgets my screen is filed with grid of app icons and folders. It begins to resemble Apple products I despise.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I used the calendar, calculator, music and Notes widget the most, and they're gone from Sense 5. That's pretty much the only thing I miss, I really don't know why they would throw it out, it was something that differentiated sense from other launchers. Now it's all the same to me.
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Venom sense 5 have many widgets like calendar ,music ,gmail,contact ,old clock and new clock too so don't worry once we get full working sense 5 we other dev might be able to port those other remaining widgets too like note .btw what other widgets u want whether u don't need in sense 5 as u can see it everywhere ,friendsstreem u also don't need that cause of blink feed ,which r the remaining (most of them on sense 4 r useless)
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Harbir said:
Venom sense 5 have many widgets like calendar ,music ,gmail,contact ,old clock and new clock too so don't worry once we get full working sense 5 we other dev might be able to port those other remaining widgets too like note .btw what other widgets u want whether u don't need in sense 5 as u can see it everywhere ,friendsstreem u also don't need that cause of blink feed ,which r the remaining (most of them on sense 4 r useless)
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You think those widgets can be ported? I know when I was on the desire forums that some had tried to port some widgets from GB sense 3.6 to earlier sense, but I don't think they managed to that. Hope it will be possible
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You think those widgets can be ported? I know when I was on the desire forums that some had tried to port some widgets from GB sense 3.6 to earlier sense, but I don't think they managed to that. Hope it will be possible
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I saw widgets ported for HTC One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325837
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365955
Hopefully we can get them for Sensation also...
czguy said:
I saw widgets ported for HTC One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325837
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365955
Hopefully we can get them for Sensation also...
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Great, hope we'll get them as well.
I Like Sense 5 but.....
I like Sense 5, but I misse old Dial, I think is better sense 4+
Blinkfeed of sense 5 is useless. It's usable in sense 5.5 only, because there you can finally customize the sources to be displayed.
So if the only or main reason to switch to sense 5 is just blinkfeed then there's no reason, because you won't use it much.
I wish that sense 5.5 porting would be feasible
I may have misunderstood the OP but all of these are in Sense 5.
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Noob_Friendly_Nerd said:
sense5 for sensation
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You do realize that sharing that here isn't allowed, right? ._.
And even that KangSense has a few bugs.. I think it's like Team Venoms old build, which another developer 'stole' and fixed a little.
I'm gonna wait for Team Venom's official.
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You do realize that sharing that here isn't allowed, right? ._.
And even that KangSense has a few bugs.. I think it's like Team Venoms old build, which another developer 'stole' and fixed a little.
I'm gonna wait for Team Venom's official.
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You can share anything as long as it is not warez. At the end of the day until someone has PROOF it is team venom rom then it's allowed to be shared
I only shared so people can flash to get a taste of sense 5 that's all.
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You can share anything as long as it is not warez. At the end of the day until someone has PROOF it is team venom rom then it's allowed to be shared
I only shared so people can flash to get a taste of sense 5 that's all.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487128&highlight=kingsense
Noob_Friendly_Nerd said:
sense5 for sensation
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That ROM is not allowed to be posted here as it is a kang of Team Venom ROM and kanging us not tolerated here.
Posting a link to it again will cause me to take things further next time.
Please be sure this is the last time it happens.
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Does sense 5 has interactive notifications like aosp jb roms?
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http://www.slashgear.com/htc-ville-caught-on-video-with-sense-4-0-31211379/
I don't like it. HTC must have been high out of their minds to take Sense this far. The animations are unnecessary.
I agree, Im not really liking it. The dockbar, IMO, looks like garbage. All those animations seems like it lags the UI as well
the animation is nice. but i don't like the launcher, sense's 3.xx launcher is better that.
I like the animations. The dock and the actual device are ugly. Sucks. HTC messed up on this one. For sure il be getting the amaze instead now. I rather have sense 3.0 on android 4.0.
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I like the animations. The dock and the actual device are ugly. Sucks. HTC messed up on this one. For sure il be getting the amaze instead now. I rather have sense 3.0 on android 4.0.
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Why if you can just root it an hopefully downgrade lol
i honestly do like thgis sense. i mean sure the launcher is a bit iffy but i like it and if it gets ported to our phone i wont mind using it as a DD
O__o what happened????
Software: it doesn't even look like Sense anymore...
i agree, the animations, while nice, look like they hog a bunch of memory, and aren't necessary... if it lags on a device like that, imagine how it would run on our Glacier..LOL
Hardware: reminds me of the Galaxy Nexus, specially from the side lol
it doesn't look as pro and nice as the Sensation... i mean.. wow.. single LED light? the Sensation has two...
much rather get the Sensation instead.
quite disappointed... hope HTC changes it before the official release.
Eww ugly
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I was concerned that Sense 4.0 would look too much like previous versions and not allow enough of ICS' great UI to show through. The leaked video was a pleasant surprise!
I like the new status bar, clock/weather widget, and dockbar. All three are a nice change from previous versions which were pretty close to identical going from the Cupcake version of Sense that came out on the Hero all the way up to Sense 3.5 on the Runnymede and Rezound. Finally something different!
Like most people I did not at all like the needless animation in the Settings window, but I'd still be interested in running 4.0 on the MT4G or any future device.
Not a big fan of Sense in general, but it does seem HTC has gone overboard with this one. The phone itself looks pretty sleek though, wonder how cool it would be running AOSP ICS.
I haven't seen the video yet, I'm throttled, but judging by the comments. It's possible that it's just a beta or something, I'm just guessing.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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I actually like it, it sure looked like a beta to me. There is no way HTC is going to release something that laggy
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I think it looks pretty good. I definitely like the new launcher. I hated the rosie dock.
I thought it looked pretty cool. Cant wait to see a finished product
I could care less about the lag; it's the UI itself that annoys me. This has resource hog written all over it. And, Sense got uglier. All this resource rape is unnecessary; people have made exact replicas of Sense using images and other widgets, and it uses a ****lot less resources than Sense's framework (not to mention, the framework is modded to hell). HTC is just getting unnecessary now.
I think HTC should of just watered it down, a lot. Keeps beats and add universal support. Animations are nice so keep those, and have HTC Widgets, and apps and that's it. Stock ICS with minor tweaks.
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GazaIan said:
I could care less about the lag; it's the UI itself that annoys me. This has resource hog written all over it. And, Sense got uglier. All this resource rape is unnecessary; people have made exact replicas of Sense using images and other widgets, and it uses a ****lot less resources than Sense's framework (not to mention, the framework is modded to hell). HTC is just getting unnecessary now.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Sense has so many little touches are throughout the UI...far too many to list. There's no way to replicate the Sense experience with themes and widgets.
It's sort of like generic cola...it tastes ok and a little like real Coke, but there's no way to duplicate genuine ice-cold Coca-Cola Classic (or Pepsi ).
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I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Sense has so many little touches are throughout the UI...far too many to list. There's no way to replicate the Sense experience with themes and widgets.
It's sort of like generic cola...it tastes ok and a little like real Coke, but there's no way to duplicate genuine ice-cold Coca-Cola Classic (or Pepsi ).
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+100%
you're absolutely right.
people may have made "replicas" of it, but nothing beats the real thing.
just like how those people in China make those fake Android phones/iPhones and sell them
Looks great, but I'll always trade the looks of sense for the responsiveness and better battery life I get from an AOSP or CM build.
After looking at this, if sense REALLY turns out to be that way, I'm hoping some smart guy will make a rom for it without all the needless animations and resource hogging things.
I was really dissapointed that Touchwiz phones were more popular than Sense phones for 2011. I thought HTC would learn from that, but it seems they've gotten worse. I've been kind of excited for a Sense 4.0 rom but now im just probably gonna use my core droid 3.5 rom til my contract is up. If a nexus phone doesnt come to T-mobile... I will be forced to buy the only thing i see good enough....... a galaxy S 3 phone.
btw: I just saw this video today so im late XD.
...want Sense 3.6 to be the final Sense version that we get for the Sensation? I mean, I love it. It's great. Obviously a more polished version makes sense, however, I think this sense version is pretty great. (I've had tons of Sense phones and have used many roms.) Sense 4.0 looks so... Blah... to me. That plain grey, I like it on AOSP and in the menus on Sense 3.6... but for it to be the launcher bar on the bottom... I dunno. I feel like they are doing away with the glassy gloss of Sense that made me love it.
Anyone else agree?
Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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They do open the kernel source up, but IIRC it's only after a phone or update with that version of the kernel is shipped this occurs.
So my guess is once they push out the ICS update they will make the kernel source available here: http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Sense. However, I don't like the direction they are going with Sense 4.0. I would like the new landscape rosie and lockscreen, other than that... Sense 3.6 is the way I like my Sensation.
Μe too,I think now they are making it too grey ang ugly for me.sense 3.6 has that touch polish you can't see elsewhere.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
Personally I can't stand sense, but thats just a personal preference. I didn't realize how much I disliked it until I received a sense device. I used to think it was just a skin and a different launcher would fix it.
It would be great if HTC offered factory baked AOSP roms as an option. So those who want a regular android experience will continue to buy HTC phones and can do so without voiding their warranty. I get why people like sense, even more when you take it back to windows mobile 6.x (touchflo), but as long as sense is a part of HTC phones for the future, I will no longer buy phones from them. Except for 9 months on blackberry I have had only HTC phones for at least 6 years.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
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Blue tint is a bug affecting some users. Flash this kernel to fix it: 1.512_GHz_overclocked_kernel_3.0.16-g9788208_by_SebastianFM.zip
You can't really complain about Sense 4.0 when no one has even used it.
All you've seen so far are leaked videos and pictures. It could still change before it's released.
Some videos of it in action. I have always been been a fan of sense, but sense 4 looks awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp8TurP6Nbc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpRYUHjljAs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You cray.
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Meh... I'm starting to get tired of the same old sense. I was hoping for a complete revamp with ICS. Maybe I just need to try another brand. Been using HTC forever.
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Me likes and runs much more smotther
Well thanks for those videos,
I have tried the Sense 4.0 and honestly its brilliant. Its Snappy and seems lightweight. Works well on current gen dual core. Much better than sense 3.
I wanted to share one latest news about sense 4--
HTC adds even more Dropbox support in Sense 4.0, storage upped to 25GB--
More news coming out of HTC's camp in Barcelona. The firm shared promise rings with Dropbox a few months ago, offering 5GB total storage capacity on its Sense 3.5 devices, and now the two companies are ready to take the next step in their commitment with ICS-backed version 4.0.
forget sense
- therre is something great coming see - with much more features.
http://www.tsfui.com/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYzYQ6YtepU
or go launcher ex has it all - smother and battery usage is much better.
So why you need sense ?
is there is any chance that the sense will be on the Samsung galaxy tab?
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is there is any chance that the sense will be on the Samsung galaxy tab?
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It could be possible if you could get a dev who is willing to do it. In Nexus S there are few devs that are working hard to bring it and brought a stable and functional sense 2.1 rom. They are currently working for sense 4.0.
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MichaelAmrs said:
Well thanks for those videos,
I have tried the Sense 4.0 and honestly its brilliant. Its Snappy and seems lightweight. Works well on current gen dual core. Much better than sense 3.
I wanted to share one latest news about sense 4--
HTC adds even more Dropbox support in Sense 4.0, storage upped to 25GB--
More news coming out of HTC's camp in Barcelona. The firm shared promise rings with Dropbox a few months ago, offering 5GB total storage capacity on its Sense 3.5 devices, and now the two companies are ready to take the next step in their commitment with ICS-backed version 4.0.
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Its awesome just I think it should be more ice cream reminiscent
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It doesn't matter how nice nonSense becomes... the fact that it's not AOSP is inherently bad.
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There may be more features, but that demo shows a skin on top of standard ICS, which I expected it to be. It has a few animations mixed in as well.
It should but I don't really like aosp too plain
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Reviewing all the hands on vids of the new one x looks like Sense 4.0 will be very lite. As long as they still have the small accents I have come to love from ics I will be happy!
So I just finaly previewed sense 5 thanks to all the ppl who helped port it .
So I only just noticed that they have ruined some of the most defining sense features .
Full screen are widgets virtually gone ....
They left 1 analog clock that's a 1x1 widget , Wtf it that
The new weather widget is totall garbage
The one on the blink feed is ok but you can't set it on your home screen .
Its seems they could of left a lot of the things they removed .
New app drawer also garbage , and why is the weather widget in the app drawer ?
Seems like sense 5 is more of a franken Rom built on a de sensed sense base with crappy windows 8 and android 1.5 features ..
Being a big sense fan , I am truly let down
Anyone else share the same feeling ?
What's your opinion
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first time i saw sense 5 i thought "hey something new, cool" but after seeing it in action on the htc one was enough to tell its a fail (for me, imo).
and i just dont need this news kinda thing, i want my homescreens and more customization which sense never offered yet, to my disappointment.
(like having simple quick settings in drop down like 4.2.2. stock) < my wishes for sense 6/7 lol...
i hope the devs here will do more sense4+ roms, even when sense 5 is truly out =)
i also have same feeling. İf we get a stable base then we can think different. Some widgets can be ported also sense 4+ launcher can be ported its not a big problem right now. But sense 5 is fast butter fast i must say that..
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proxuser said:
i also have same feeling. İf we get a stable base then we can think different. Some widgets can be ported also sense 4+ launcher can be ported its not a big problem right now. But sense 5 is fast butter fast i must say that..
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Good to know I'm not alone ,
Hopefully the Rom community can build sense 4 into sense 5
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dunno why u opened a thread for this
there is already a general thread for sense 5
I feel the same. I dint like it. Who needs all the bloody feeds on their home screen. I can damn google for them whenever needed
IMO, far from it.
I do not like the sense app drawer or launcher in general at all (never have), however, I would be using nova anyway so those things won't be a problem at all.
Blinkfeed looks all right, would never use it though, again not a problem, disable all the sources and swipe to the right or just install a different launcher.
Most of that stuff is easily fixable with 3rd party apps
For me sense V5 is epic for these reasons:
- nicer UI, more minimal and closer to stock android look
- no longer has labels for the icons on the top i.e. menu under the 3 dots
- got rid of the stupid big tabs on the bottom of some sense apps and replaced them with the stock tabs at the top, this will suit are smaller screen/lower res. far better
- zoe and the camera plus the gallery with live tiles/thumbnails are the highlights for me
- less bloated and less heavy so performance should be a bit better and we should get a wee boost in usable storage
- plus it might be more power efficient so better battery life
The person who was wanting quick setting like stock android, the reason sense doesn't have that is because it isn't based on the newest version of JB i.e. 4.2.2, once we get that update (supposedly we are getting the newer version of sense and 4.2.2 not the current one based on 4.1.2) then we will have those quick settings
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We have a sense 5 discussion thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175950
Please continue discussion there.
there is a sense rom Andorid 4.2.2 with 4 +?
or some form of porting a ROM?
Nope. Sense is not an easily extracted/added module. To do something like that would take way too much time and effort to be worth it.
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Why stay with Sense 4+ if you want to be on 4.2.2?
There are very few things I miss about Sense 4+ (versus Sense 5). All of them very minor, and mostly aesthetic.
I could really go for a sense4+ 4.2.2. I'll be honest, I hate the way sense 5 looks. I hate the font, I hate the new Rosie, and I don't quite like the notification bar background. I do like the new lockscreen though. Don't get me wrong: I am extremely grateful for the devs providing us with these roms, in fact I am running cr7 right now. My point is that HTC is really trying too hard imo.
Sorry if this offends anyone lol. No offense intended.
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I could really go for a sense4+ 4.2.2. I'll be honest, I hate the way sense 5 looks. I hate the font, I hate the new Rosie, and I don't quite like the notification bar background. I do like the new lockscreen though. Don't get me wrong: I am extremely grateful for the devs providing us with these roms, in fact I am running cr7 right now. My point is that HTC is really trying too hard imo.
Sorry if this offends anyone lol. No offense intended.
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Nothing offensive here, you are just stating your opinion (as we are all free to do); and its totally a matter of personal taste.
I don't completely disagree, either. I really hated the new font and icons when I first started seeing screenshots of Sense 5 (actually liked the Sense 4/4+ appearance ). But Sense 5 actually grew on me once I flashed it onto my HOX. And the Sense 5 ROMs just run so smoothly and less laggy than 4+. So on one hand, I agree that HTC may have tried a little too hard to change things that didn't necessarily need to be changed, from an aesthetic standpoint. But I think they did a really nice job improving the performance.
So for me the "pros" of Sense 5 far outweigh the "cons". But just my personal feeling.