Hi everyone, I was looking at the snapdragon 800 family CPUs, and I've noticed that the most used of them are the 8974 (the nexus 5 should have this one) and the 8974AB models. the only differences between them are the frequencies of GPU and RAM. the AB model has 100MHz more for the GPU (450MHz vs 550MHz) and 133MHz more for the RAM (800MHz 12.8Gbps vs 933MHz 14.9Gbps). the GPU overclock is a common feature in many custom kernels, therefore I was wondering if it's possible to overclock the RAM's frequency. I know it would be absolutely useless to do so, I'm just asking it out of curiosity.
thanks everybody
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I guess it would be possible, but I haven't come across any kernel that does that, seems overkill though, especially with the performance of the Snapdragon 800.
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there's no doubt that, on a high end device/CPU, overclocking the RAM's frequency would waste a lot of battery for a little improvement, as the GPU overclock does IMHO.
But, since the GPU overclock is common, while I've never seen a kernel with RAM overclock, and both are quite useless (except for benchmarking), I wasn't sure that the RAM overclock was possible on android.
Thanks for answering
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Ya, K | N G P | N is just overkiller. Let's say we would like to overclock it for same reason as guy I mentioned - to beat scores in benchmark just for fun.
I saw benchmark of Qualcomm MSM8974 Tablet. MSM8974 was 40℅ worse than i5-3317U/HD4000.
But they had 4.3 AOSP on it. I think that with CyanogenMod 11, linaro, -O3, Kernels, new Adreno libraries, overclocking and many more tweaks we can increase that performance and lower that gap between lowpower ARM SoC and notebook x86_64 CISC CPU. Just for fun.
Wow
I've only found stupid answers coming from knowledgeable people: it's not worth it, it's gossipy and almost never leads to the title. I suggest to immediately prevent useless answers and only answer about how to overclock RAM.
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Hey guys, could someone please explain to me why my Nexus S (2.3.3) is only getting an avg score of 12 mflops while my N1 (2.3.3) is getting an avg score of 37 mflops on the Linpack app?
Because benchmarking does not equal real world performance.
Quillcomm Snapdragon processors have better performance when it comes to this particular test.
Hummingbird will excel in other specific benchmark tests.
Run a test with any 3D game or HD, if it lags, then its the device, if it runs smooth, then is the benchmark app itself that hasn't been updated to read scores due to our ota, I had the same thought and issue with quadrant but then I installed modern combat and pes11(soccer game) and both run smoothly, try smartbench 2010 its free on the market and updated for our phones.
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Cool that's good to know. I'll try 3D games and compare. Thanks for the feedback.
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Hey guys, could someone please explain to me why my Nexus S (2.3.3) is only getting an avg score of 12 mflops while my N1 (2.3.3) is getting an avg score of 37 mflops on the Linpack app?
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linpack is made for the snapdragon processors. my overclocked nexus s gets around 23 on linpack. but, lets see one of those snapdragons do this on quadrant, or get 63 fps on nenamark, or get a 37000+ on an3Dbench...
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That's a nice score. Well I just d/l Smartbench 2011. My NS got around 850 while N1 got 970, both are estimates. But I did notice that on the corridor test the NS ran it super quick while N1 was sluggish.
Benchmarks depend on what you do to your phone, from a custom rom to an overclocked kernel and other tweaks, such a lagfix do the trick, it looks awesome to hit those numbers but the device cannot be stable 24/7, not for a daily use.
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So the new quadrant app is actually somewhat useful. It breaks down the score by category.
Here is what I got the first time I ran it:
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This is on eclipse 1.3 with pbj kernel and max frequency at 800mhz and conservative governor.
Obviously i have a low cpu score, but somehow i have a massive lead in i/o over nexus s and gnex but not the tab. Do they still use rfs or something? Also everything has a substantial lead in 2d/3d over the gnex, which is strange considering they all have the same gpu and the gnex is clocked faster.
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So the new quadrant app is actually somewhat useful. It breaks down the score by category.
Here is what I got the first time I ran it:
This is on eclipse 1.3 with pbj kernel and max frequency at 800mhz and conservative governor.
Obviously i have a low cpu score, but somehow i have a massive lead in i/o over nexus s and gnex but not the tab. Do they still use rfs or something? Also everything has a substantial lead in 2d/3d over the gnex, which is strange considering they all have the same gpu and the gnex is clocked faster.
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There must be a glitch, or they are not showing the right scores for the other devices. I got scores in the 2100's, better than the galaxy nexus!
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KAK & Supercharged!
anyone notice the test takes a lot longer now?
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anyone notice the test takes a lot longer now?
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Yeah probably because the test is meant for new phones with 1ghz single core/higher speed dual core processors, not like OG Droid and HTC Hero.
Transformer prime gets around 4000, yikes
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I've always found AnTuTu to be a better benchmark. It didn't suffer the seemingly random variability that Quadrant suffered. I'll have to check out the new version of Quadrant to see how it is.
I did a full benchmark on my cappy and this where my scores..was just curious about them and decided to post them here since im on stock 2.3.5 with CWM v4.0.1.5 kernel I installed the kernel to install costum roms but havent install none yet & got these scores...Can i do a backup on my stock rom?
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You have too many questions. Pls read stickies in each section.
I have 1700 in Quadrant2 with ICS and Icy Glitch.
quadrant = lol
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You have too many questions. Pls read stickies in each section.
I have 1700 in Quadrant2 with ICS and Icy Glitch.
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Too many questions? are u serious? can u even read? i see one question -_-
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Just to save you from posts about Quadrant scores, I'll say that in general, quadrant scores aren't a solid indicator of phone performance. There are so many factors that can be artificially tweaked that it's not reliable. If you're really interested, there are posts floating around on XDA that go into more detail about this issue.
The biggest factor is how your phone feels to you - if it's snappy and blazing fast in all apps you run, that's infinitely better than a high Quadrant score.
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Just to save you from posts about Quadrant scores, I'll say that in general, quadrant scores aren't a solid indicator of phone performance. There are so many factors that can be artificially tweaked that it's not reliable. If you're really interested, there are posts floating around on XDA that go into more detail about this issue.
The biggest factor is how your phone feels to you - if it's snappy and blazing fast in all apps you run, that's infinitely better than a high Quadrant score.
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Thanks! thats the answer i was looking for since i actually find my phone somewat laggy with stock but had this score which i didnt knew to trust
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So I'm not one to complain about the phone but I feel like my phone has always been sub par with everybody else's scores. Quadrant and An Tutu are bother terrible, and are consistently terrible no matter the ROM I flash. Seems to actually get worse.. what should I do? Flash a stock looking ROM and ask for a replacement and lose root?
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Dude, don't worry. I just ran AnTuTu on my old Motorola Backflip and got 508. I got 230 in Quadrant.
Assuming you don't have a million apps running in the background, yeah yours does seem to suck a bit.
I got 6939 in Antutu.
Try to do the swap, but remember that your bootloader screen shows ***TAMPERED*** in big letters up the top so you may well get denied. In Australia you definitely would.
Benchmarking is useless. Ignore them.
Sorry, but if you return the phone because of low benchmarks then please move on to an Apple product...benchmarks literally mean nothing (as long as you're happy with its performance).
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Not sure if you're rooted or not, but try to run benchmarks when the device is cool or even cold. These devices will lower CPU frequency depending on temperature. If you are rooted then set min to max on setcpu, keep the amount of installed apps to a minimum and try a cache cleaner. I did all those and cooling the device to a chill resulted me with this
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Im guessing the HOX that is beating yours is the Int. model
Does your benchmark score effect your phones day to day performance? Probably not. Just forget about benchmarks and enjoy your awesome phone.
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Alright guys I did some more tweaks and got a pretty good antutu score today. It was probably because my phone was hot or something which was why my scores were so bad. For tomorrow I'm going to test some underclocking on stock, to see if I can improve battery life. But scores now:
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This looks awesome!! Much love & respect to qbking77 for the footage! Love your work bro
http://youtu.be/YVZsISJgfsE
wow samsung you guys rock.
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Think we'll see it in the Galaxy S IV?
we wont see this for at least two years
we would we see it in 2 yrs and not sooner? i can see it coming out in 1 yr.
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damn it seems like hardware is quickly outpacing the software in phones.
I don't know what anyone is going to do with so much power in a phone. In a tablet I can understand it but not in a phone, unless you're running a 21" monitor off your phone and running Ubuntu, then maybe.
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I don't know what anyone is going to do with so much power in a phone. In a tablet I can understand it but not in a phone, unless you're running a 21" monitor off your phone and running Ubuntu, then maybe.
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Ahaha I agree
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its not really a true octa core, its basically a a9 quad combined to a a15 quad core, it uses the a9 cores for normal use while using the a15 cores for gaming or other heavy tasks
I think we shouldn't called it 8-core. It is 2xquad-core but I understand their. 8-core sounds better... I think it's a small lie. But it's my own opinion.
Who wants to over clock this?
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Look how smoot NFS MW is!
But it will be a battery killer too
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Look how smoot NFS MW is!
But it will be a battery killer too
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yeah... battery technology needs to be improved
wow looks awesome
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