VNC Programs and USB OTG - Android General

Hi everyone,
I didn't find anything about this after numerous searches, so I'm starting this thread.
I've been following the USB OTG support and development for a while, and have been very excited about how easy it's getting to use real peripherals even with older phones.
But the one thing I haven't been able to find is, is there any VNC client program for Android that supports a physical mouse?
Seems right now that most VNC programs interpret a mouse cursor as a tap on the screen rather than, say, the left click. However, I can't tell if that is due to how Android natively handles the mouse, it if it's the VNC programs themselves.
I use VNC a lot, and I mean a lot, at work every day. There are many times that using my phone + OTG mouse/keyboard would be a lot more convenient than my laptop. But without really being able to use the mouse, it makes navigating E-mail and Excel files through VNC quite a hassle.
Has anyone gotten a physical mouse to work normally on VNC? Or am I just being a complete idiot and missing some obvious thing?
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[Q] Looking for the best RDP app

Hi,
I'm looking for an app that will allow regular work like:
- Right click
- F5 (or refresh)
- WinKey + R (run)
and etc...
I've tryed 2X and Remote RDP, but none of the support right clicking.
Can anyone suggest anything?
Thx!
SplashTop HD is by far the best RDP app I've used. Haven't used it with a mouse but it works very well with touchscreen (hold for right click).
A slightly older version is included in MyCloud which is already on the tablet, does everything the market app does but hasn't been updated to link you computer via e-mail address for auto lookup off the network.
I used to use Wyse PocketCloud but quickly replaced it when I tried Splashtop.
Yep, SplashTop HD is the best IMO
Splashtop is not really an RDP software.
You need to install a software on the computer that grabs what is on screen and sends that to the tablet.
I use remote rdp, which is real rdp client. Right click is done by clicking and holding. You can even set the screen size of the connection (i use 1280x750) which is perfect for the tablet.
* sigh * Splashtop is the best at what it does.
Phoenix2000 said:
Splashtop is not really an RDP software.
You need to install a software on the computer that grabs what is on screen and sends that to the tablet.
I use remote rdp, which is real rdp client. Right click is done by clicking and holding. You can even set the screen size of the connection (i use 1280x750) which is perfect for the tablet.
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Ok you have a point there but unless your in a situation where you can't install the streamer on the computer (eg. Server at work ) Splahtop is the best option.
For accessing servers at work I have streamer on my work PC and RPD from there - maybe not as fast as connecting direct but keeps security guys happier
Try PocketCloud Pro
I'm using PocketCloud Pro:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.wyse.pocketcloudfull&hl=en
It's a true RDP client, and should do everything you're looking for.
PocketCloud Pro, true RDP client, with all the features you asked. Also supports other remote access protocols.
Do any support remote desktop to a Linux box?
My favorite is X2.
But I just got my TF101.
I asked the support to implement right-click an F1F12-keys.
They answered they would discuss this in the next meetings.
This would be really great.
btw: There is an app with supports right-click.
I don't remember the name, but the non-trail-version costs about 17€ and has some disadvantages compared to X2.
I love X2 stays connected in the background.
It seems like most of the major the RDP have some form of "right click" functionality. The issue is you have to usually do some special screen press combo or use a context menu somewhere. This is fine for simple operations but is extremely annoying for trying to do serious work or gaming via RDP.
I'm hoping that either splashtop or PocketCloud will support right click via the touchpad's right click or even better via an external mouse that is plugged in or connected via bluetooth. I hear there is no API to support that at the moment and that is the reason no one implements such a thing.
I'd also really like to have secondary buttons on my mouse work (like depressing the scroll wheel etc...). My dream is to be able to use CAD software remotely or maybe even play a game of L4D. Right now it runs and works, just the mouse implementation prevents you from being efficient and is really frustrating to use.
Maybe when ice cream sanwich comes out, the mouse APIs will be included.
PocketCloud supports Linux remote desktop via vnc.
mrxela said:
PocketCloud supports Linux remote desktop via vnc.
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Yes it does, but it constantly drop connections.
jwilliamf said:
Yes it does, but it constantly drop connections.
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I've literally never had a dropped connection. I use PocketCloud all day for work on both windows and linux remote systems. Not saying I don't believe you, just saying I've had a different experience than you.
Pocketcloud is a bit pricey compare to other apps, but it's totally worth it if you use it for business. The on-screen mouse pointer control dial thingy is the best input method I've ever used on a tablet, You can click accurately on the smallest item and see the pointer the whole time, plus it gives you quick access to right-click, the windows key, etc.
Hm, it's really unlikely any app out there is going to support the right click on the transformer dock the way it's configured, but I really want this. Maybe there's a free RDP client out there ripe for modding this functionality in? I don't know how hard it would be.
Actually I use Xtralogic's Remote Desktop and it works PERFECTLY with the dock, including right-click support, and 'hot tracking' the mouse. The ONLY weird thing about it is that you have to double-click-drag, but it's a minor thing...
With Xtralogic's (kinda pricey) app, my TF101 is basically a netbook now, and I couldn't be happier.
msticninja said:
I've literally never had a dropped connection. I use PocketCloud all day for work on both windows and linux remote systems. Not saying I don't believe you, just saying I've had a different experience than you.
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I used to connect to my ubuntu system but it seem that after 5 to 10 minutes the connection drops. (this using the latest ubuntu distro) Another thing I noticed is that when you do the setup , it only show vpn for mac or windows. either way it connect, but sometime I wonder is that the problem
msticninja said:
Pocketcloud is a bit pricey compare to other apps, but it's totally worth it if you use it for business. The on-screen mouse pointer control dial thingy is the best input method I've ever used on a tablet, You can click accurately on the smallest item and see the pointer the whole time, plus it gives you quick access to right-click, the windows key, etc.
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Agree on the mouse pointer control dial. that thing is perfect.
Remote RDP should have right click, you may need to check settings? I emailed the guy when the TF first came out, he was able to do it really fast.
right click
First of all thx for sll your replyes, but like someone here said - using combinations is nice but its annoying.
I think that there should some kind of a tweak that you can install on the device that allows the use of right click button everywhere.
Wouldn'tit be nice to use right click features everywhere? Like special functions in the browsre and etc...
I'll be sure to try SplashTop...for now, TeamViewer is my nr. 1.

[Q] Is Splashtop HD fully functional?

Hey,
I am considering to buy myself the transformer with the dock and I was wondering, if it would then work as a "real" netbook if I use it in connection with Splashtop? Therefore I have some questions:
* Will all kinds of software (Microsoft Office, Eclipse IDE, etc.) work?
* Are the keyboard and the touchpad fully compatible? Or will I have to use some kind of virtual keyboard although the dock is plugged in?
* How will this affect the battery life?
* Will there be any interferences with surfing the web?
Thank You very much so far!
I had the same thought but I just went and did it.
Even though the asus transformer has an app that is a clone of Microsoft office (Polaris Office) Microsoft office will work.
The keyboard works fine with me. All that the keyboard does is replace the onscreen one, so it has to work.
It will have the same battery life as you would normally have while Wifi is turned on.
I personally noticed that it was a little laggy, but I have really bad internet.
Good luck sir
Thanks for the reply!
mikeydubbs said:
The keyboard works fine with me. All that the keyboard does is replace the onscreen one, so it has to work.
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What's about the touchpad? Does is also work completely right? It think I read somewhere that using the right-click button causes Splashtop to terminate?
mikeydubbs said:
I personally noticed that it was a little laggy, but I have really bad internet.
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How fast is/was your internet connection? How fast should it be?
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I really think that Asus TF together with its Dock are a great team, but I am afraid that it won't fulfill my expectations. Of course, I could buy me a netbook, but I also would like to have the ability to play around with a touch-screen
So honestly, how long have you had the TF (and how long have you used Splashtop) and do you think it is a "good" combination of a netbook and a tablet?
Right click will quit splashtop (it is back) but holding down left simulates right click. On my lan splashtop is almost like running windows locally. Over the net it is as good for most things as any other remote solution but somehow manages to stream video better than any others.
vru3344 said:
* Will all kinds of software (Microsoft Office, Eclipse IDE, etc.) work?
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I have to ask this question, but you are aware that Splashtop is a remote desktop solution, and that in order for it to work you must have a PC or a Mac running somewhere on your network (or accessible from the internet), and it is this machine that actually runs your software?
The reason I ask is because you're asking if specific software works with Splashtop - in essence, the software on your "server" machine is immaterial to Splashtop because Splashtop is just a remote desktop.
Regards,
Dave
Hey Dave!
I fully understand that the software has to run on a normal OS and the "output" will be streamed to the TF. The thing is though, I am not sure if the 10 inch display can resize the images so far, that the software can be used productively.
So my question is how good can the display handle "intensive" applications which have a lot of screen elements. Is the small display able to scale it down properly?
When you run splashtop from the transformer, it automatically changes the screen resolution on the host computer to a size that will fit on the transformer screen perfectly (At least in my experience). Once you disconnect your computers screen resolution goes back to what it was set as.
You can choose the following screen resolutions:
800x600
1024x768
1280x720
Best fit to transformer
Native resolution(whatever you currently have set on your windows or mac comptuer)
In practice your primary concern should be the tablet -> mouse situation and having enough bandwidth for what you're doing.
The regular version that is bundled will also tend to disconnect when you go back or to another application, I assume so does the HD.
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One other thing to note is that when you are using the trackpad on the dock, you get the android mouse plus you get the mouse on the computers desktop. The mouse of the computers desktop follows the android mouse around, with a little bit of lag (if you aren't on the same network).
As mentioned above, the right click button on the dock still does act as the back button, exiting the application. Tapping and holding is the way to make a right-click action happen on the host computer.
If standard RDP is an option (if you have a VPN or something), the 2X RDP app works wonderfully with the transformer keyboard dock and trackpad. It actually allows you to use the right-click liek you normally would - it's JUST like sitting in front of a PC....
Like I said though, this is just plain RDP - will not work via the internet without a VPN.... ALso, not good for things like video, etc.....

[Q] Use physical keoyboard/touchpad to control pc

Hi. I'm planning on getting a transformer, but I'm interested in the following feature:
Is it possible to control your pc:s mouse and keyboard with the touchpad/keyboard of the dockingstation? I know there are several apps that turn your screen into a touchpad for the pc and sends on screen keyboard text to your pc. But I want to be able to use the docking station just as if it was an external keyboard.
Perhaps even the included splashtop app can do this?
I think most remote desktop apps do this, but splashtop does it for sure.
Just remember there is no right-click in Android, even if you use a normal mouse. You have to long-click to 'fake' a right click.
Remote desktop isn't quite what I'm looking for though. I want to see and control my coputer hooked up to my big screen tv and with remote desktop you're logged of and can't see the big screen.
I tried splashtop laptop to pc, but didn't really like it. Sloppy and there was a trail of the mouse pointer making it harder to aim. Better than nothing though.
What I'm looking for is really just a kvm switch without the video. Synergy does this perfectly on a pc. It even shares your clipboard between computers, another thing I really want to see on Android.
mcznarf said:
Remote desktop isn't quite what I'm looking for though. I want to see and control my coputer hooked up to my big screen tv and with remote desktop you're logged of and can't see the big screen.
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Wrong. Thats only when you use windows sad excuse for remote desktop. Any REAL RD does not log out the server, unless you set it up to do that.
mcznarf said:
I tried splashtop laptop to pc, but didn't really like it. Sloppy and there was a trail of the mouse pointer making it harder to aim. Better than nothing though.
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Weird, I dont have it. Sounds like either your PC or network is very slow.
But there are better remote desktops for PC<->PC than splashtop.
mcznarf said:
What I'm looking for is really just a kvm switch without the video. Synergy does this perfectly on a pc. It even shares your clipboard between computers, another thing I really want to see on Android.
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That severely cripples your options. Theres not a high demand for such a thing since the TF's are like the only tablets with real keyboard and mouse.
There are plenty of apps that give you remote keyboard control and can turn the tablet to a touchpad to control the PC, but I doubt that works with a real mouse.

Is there a 'true' remote control app (not media control)?

I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
ngoonee said:
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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Well I think we people are trying to do so much with these smartwatches that are not intented for. I can not see any use for what you are describing especially practicality of it. First of all, any app that you use on the watch is actually running on the phone. So if you want to remotely control your PC, just use the phone itself. Using your watch for that purpose will be extremely slow and would be much of an hassle rather than convenient. The touchscreen on the watch is nowhere close to the sensitivity of the touchsreen of any modern day smartphone. That is another issue. If you are really keen on using it as a mousepad only, without seeing anything on the watch, maybe than it maybe faster but than again it has to first communicate with the phone than the phone will communicate with the PC so again there will be hell of a lag...
But my answer to your question is I don't know any app that can do that at the moment.
It depends on what you wanna do
Well, that might answer your question. As far as I know, no "mouse" exists on watch but that doesn't mean you can't control your PC with your watch.
You might use Unified Remote, tasker and it's smartwatch's version. Unified remote is an app that enables you to control your PC wirelessly from your phone (for example, you can play or pause windows media center, launch any program...), very useful and customizable with paid version. Then, tasker is a really really useful app (maybe a bit hard to understand at first) with which you'll be able to activate only few options of your apps. Tasker live extension shows these options on the watch. I've never tried myself but give it a try and let us know.
I don't know if it's clear enough but, for example, I use sonos system (those are speakers connected to wifi that you control with a special app on your phone), using tasker and tasker extension, I can control sonos (play, pause, skip, volume,...) using my watch.
Of course, as the guy above me said, this will never as easy and fast as on your phone. However there are apps that are intended for controlling your PC.
PS : excuse me for my not-that-good-english.
I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
ngoonee said:
I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
Geoffxx said:
you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
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Well, my objective is to use what I'm already wearing rather than carry more gadgets =) already use a wireless mouse myself sometimes. Having peripherals which are the same size as my tablet isn't fun though
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As soon as I find one, I WILL let you know
I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
MonacodesAffaires said:
I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
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I guess I am one of those dream killers you mention. First of all, I am not trying to discourage anyone trying to do anything.
You can for sure use smartwatch as a presentation controller with buttons like the Logitech ones. It will work. But for practicality, I simply don't see sw2 being used as a mousepad. It is just my opinion and you don't have to agree with me.
So good luck with your search/app development.
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ngoonee said:
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
brooker88 said:
How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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ngoonee said:
If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
brooker88 said:
I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
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Well, basically....
1) SSH on the laptop
2) Profit
If you don't understand that then don't bother.
Lol
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Remote Desktop app recommendation?

Hey guys, I'm looking for recommendations for a remote desktop app to interact with a windows 7 computer, currently I use realvnc or the MS rdp app however what I need is something that will allow me to go full screen and use finger clicks direct on the screen not a virtual mouse like the two apps I currently use.
Basically I have a piece of touch ready software and I want to use it off my galaxy tablet.
Heres what I need:
It must do fullscreen
It must be direct touch
and finally it must work without an internet connection
Thanks in advance
Tim
Teamviewer?
It is still not direct touch, but I find it much easier to use than realvnc in those regards. I use it on a tablet with a bluetooth keyboard and it's fantastic
Yeah I actually use that already on my computer however it needs to be direct touch, I also forgot to say that it needs to work on a LAN without an internet connection!
A friend at work says he used to use the bVNC app. It looks like it'll connect to your already setup realvnc server, and it was the only one he found that the touch input seemed to make sense. He said he switched to VLC players built in video streaming for what he was using it for though.
i m using only teamviewer and rdp

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