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Carrying Strap? Just confirming: the Desire has no Strap Hole for a Lanyard, right?

It's really annoying. The Hero's got it, and it was invaluable to me. saved my phone many a time.
I've been reading many reviews online re this lacking on the Nexus One as well, and users as well as editors citing Apple as starting the dumb trend to eliminate a strap connecting point as I am sure it would ruin steve's aesthetics. So why did HTC have to go follow this dumb new trend?
Does anyone know if any of the silicon cases set to come out will have at least the option for a carrying strap?

You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.

thanks for the reply. I already have "ruinified" my back cover by placing those self adhesive gripper strips on it so the phone doesn't slip out of my hands. It's way more slippery than the Hero -- which is funny, because so many review spoke of how the phone's materials had more of a grip feel to them... not so. Yes, some resistance vs slipperyness of polished plastic or aluminum, but not enough to be safe.
So that was "be safe not sorry" measure #1.
Measure 2 is: I ordered already a silicon gel case for the Desire. It starts shipping in 5 days. I have no idea the quality. But to me it's insurance at this point, since who knows how long til the market is developed withj accessories. quite amazing how unprepared the accessory market was. Not like this phone was a secret.
I ordered from here, since i am usa:
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-Silicone-Skin-Jelly-Case-Black-P87961.htm
but found it here initially, a uk vendor for them:
http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?divid=HTC&model=HTC+Desire&cat=Cases&skuno=87961
I am sure i must have seen it on one of these threads.
I will for sure be fashioning a carry strap one way or another, and how dumb for HTC to "delete" this usability design element... especially when the European Hero (NOT the ones you would have seen in the USA) has the most elegant design including its carry strap hole and method of securing. Just beautiful. I wonder if the Legend has a carry strap or did they abandon it there too...
redrazr7791 said:
You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
I just did some searching on eBay and it seems that more sellers are starting to push out cases for the Desire. They look pretty good, especially since they cover the whole phone (buttons and trackpad), not just running around the border of the phone -
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Silicone-S...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef7eed5
http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Silicone-..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item4aa097dbda
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicone-Case-L...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef49799
Thing is...they are all located in Hong Kong

redrazr7791 said:
I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-coveri of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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That's an idea worth considering but of course 2 problems ... backs snap is itself not secure enough for holding weight of hand ... and the warranty void. I did buy 3rd party insurance from square trade which covers accidental damage incl dropping...
Still I would seek some more secure anchor method... If I had some spare time, I swear I would do this: I'd work my way through the corporate maze at HTC until I burrowed into someone in actual product design... and then I would pose the challenge to them from a purely hypothetical point of view about where and how this fish-line could be anchored.

redrazr7791 said:
I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.

Spud, congratulations on a GREAT "Post #1" to XDA ---- one of the best examples of a "Post #1" I have seen here in years. I am really thankful you posted this, as I find this to be an essential accessory... One which to me reduces stress far more than any case or screen shield... Knowing I have the phone strapped to my wrist has always given me primary peace of mind for a device that is so precisely put together where one drop could dislodge any number of things, even if a case prevents a knick or scratch.
REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
You can email me at my user name here @ gmail dot com. Thank you for posting! And welcome to XDA-developers. How do you like your desire? Have you had a touchscreen phone before? If so, which one?
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?

quicksite said:
REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
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Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.

Hmm. Don't really like that. Looks risky and deforms the case.

SpudULike said:
Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.
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That's pretty impressive.... I didn't check the inside of mine initially when you described it, and so before the pictures I was imagining that carry strap feeding down through the bottom of the cover, and I was wondering how that would work. So I actually didn't realize til I took the back of my Desire off that it's coming off the left side when looking at the screen, which is good placement ergonomically.
As for the engineering tensions and torques, I have no idea... I was trying to just imagine it in my head, and i applied force to the plastic sim card in the downward direction if the device were to slip from my hand... I can't evaluate but one thing's for sure, as you said, with your scenario of no case, this is, to me, a much better solution that praying no accidental dropping.
HTC really should have handled this (pun intended). Nice job! And thanks for the pics. I didn't know new registrants could post pics until x number of posts, but I guess you've shown otherwise, and that's a good thing.

al89nut said:
Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Well do you mean anchoring it at the top and draping over the back and hanging down that way?
I'm going to simulate what MAYBE you mean, and photograph it.. then post again and ask...

al89nut said:
Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Is this what you had in mind? This is just a "fictional dramatization".. Do not try this without adult supervision. But now that I see it, I wouldn't mind at all seeing 2 black threads at the top...
I guess when I get a silicon gel casing I won't need this solution, but i think it's also pretty good. Now if only someone can determine how & if the black-thread fishing line can be fished through the opening.... Oh, and if this wasn't what you had in mind, what WAS your idea?
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That was it, though as I said, I would not be sure that it would not deform the two holes or interfere with the sound quality.
There is another better option - if you take the back off there are two torx screws in the top left and the top right (from the back) locations. I should imagine that if loosened, something could be looped around the top right one and then it could be tightened back up. Whether that loop would be the lanyard or a connecting piece of strong nylon I don't know. If you really want to go to town, you could probably try to cut a tiny tiny nick so it could come through the back cover where the notch is already cut to let you pry the back off. That's my best suggestion.

Attaching a strap
I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.

tirc83 said:
I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.
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Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
Meanwhile, I have created a lanyard carry strap using a silicon case, punched a needle sized hole through and attached to a small smooth edged thin "plate" about the dimensions of an SD card.
I have been meaning to post my video on this. It is awesome.
But I and OTHERS would love to see your solution in pictures. Could you take some please? and if possible take close up macro shots right at the speaker grill with good lighting shining right in there, maybe a flashlight, so that we can see what IS or is not being obstructed..... the big worry was that fishing a line thru there would puncture the speaker itself.
So could you describe what you discovered?
thank you! great job!

Pics of fishing line method
quicksite said:
Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
thank you! great job!
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OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.

Nice, but I would really, really worry that the back cover will come off. Better if you can secure it to some of the screws inside the Desire.

tirc83 said:
OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.
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Oh, I see now, I hadn't noticed -- you fed thru the BACK cover speaker grill.... When i first read i thought you had created the solution i made the video simulation about, which was afixing the lanyard fishing line around and behind the FRONT speaker grill -- which is why i mentioned there was fear about tearing into the speaker.
Well you saw the other person's solution, right, where he attached the lanyard to the micro SD card cage inside and send the line out the side. Some people liked that conceot, some didn't.
Okay, i have to post my pics. I have a 50-photo sequence of very detailed extreme close-ups of creating a lanyard strap for use with a silicon casing. It's practically foolproof. I say practically, because there are always ways to be so reckless beyond what any guardrails on a mountain roadway will ever do to protect you and your car from tumbling over the edge and over the mountain
I'd say the concerns in this case are correct... With the attchment point being just the back cover; I'm afraid that is not reliable enough to risk a $550 device's safety on.
I have not reviewing this thread, so not sure if it was on this one or another one where someone talked about using one of thecasing screws of the internal phone device.... though i think these void your warranty.
(time for me to say again: why oh why oh why HTC, why did you blindly follow Apple's iPhone BAD DESIGN PHILOSOPHY and do away with this small little item that protects a $500-$550 device? The design of the HERO *had* the carry strap hook, and it was brilliant and elegantly designed... sheesh !)

Can they tell if you loosen a screw a little?

iGadgitz Gym Armband

Hey whats up guys,
I just purchased this item from Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XYQWXI)
I just got this in the mail today, have not gotten a chance to use it.
I will try to give it my best to review this product.
-Product feels pretty good, solid build quality, doesn't feel like cheap ****
-The phone fits perfectly well if you are NOT using a phone case. I tried to put the phone in with a TPU case, and it did not fit.
-Trying it on my arm, it feels pretty tight and snug. (Not sure if that's how armbands are supposed to feel. My arm feels constricting a bit, I don't think this is feasible if you are going to work out your arms?) ... But I will update this part after I have used it tonight working out my back and biceps.
-There's a cool section for your to put your headphone wire in so it doesnt hang all over the place.
Check out the pictures, I will try to update this more. If you have any questions I can try to answer them here.
Pictures they provided
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61lUAoP2bVL._AA1000_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61xn4vLqIcL._AA1000_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61jbwjeLLeL._AA1000_.jpg
My pictures, (sorry they were taken with my G2x)
http://imageshack.us/f/534/img20110725152316.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/713/img20110725152435.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/62/img20110725152449.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/580/img20110725152509.jpg/

Thanks for the review...I"m looking forward to your update. I'm very interested in knowing how this will work for you during arms workouts...and how it would appear to hold up to sweat.
On that note, what earpieces do you use that won't break down from sweat quickly?

mmapcpro said:
Thanks for the review...I"m looking forward to your update. I'm very interested in knowing how this will work for you during arms workouts...and how it would appear to hold up to sweat.
On that note, what earpieces do you use that won't break down from sweat quickly?
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Alright in response on how it felt when I was working out my arms. Either I am not an Armband type of guy (I usually wear a tank top or sleeve cut off shirt). I feel as if this thing gets in the way. Not sure if u guys know what I mean when you work out upper body and u like your arms to be free of anything.
The arm band felt like those things you put on your arm when yhou are testing your blood pressure at the doctor... very tight especially if you are working out your biceps.
I think this is good if you do cardio, or lower body exercises that do not require the use of the arms...
The material was okay in regards of sweat... I did not notice it leaking through and touching my phone at all. I personally thought it was going to be very itchy and annoying like how some kneebraces are now made with that neoprene type of material.
With the headphones, I have some type of rubbery material heaphones. There like 10 bucks or something I dont really care if they get messed up though.
Throughout the whole workout experience I can remember adjusting it almost after every set so it can get comfortable... Towards the end of my work out I just put it in my pants... LOL
So if you are not the arm band type of guy, do not get this. Only use it for cardio exercises or lower body so it wont bother you as msuch as it bothered me working out upper body.
Also the wire management part in the first Amazon provided picture, is VERY small you cant fit fat wires or many layers of wires if you guys understand what i mean...
With the front protector clear plastic thing, it wasn't too bad, basically it kind of felt like those ZAGG invisihields over your phone.

Gave it another go last night working out abs and legs, it didn't bother me as much compared doing upper body.
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DIY Game Clip for any phone/case (coat hanger)

I received some feedback asking me to post instructions on how I made my game clip to hold my phone (Galaxy S III) to a PS3 controller (homemade or DIY Gameclip). I have posted a pdf of the instructions on mediafire and attached a 7zip file of it to this post.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?gg4lyu663854moa
I first of all would like to say I got the idea from the thread of the GameKlip and thought it was a brilliant idea and a nice product, but I didn't want to spend $30 U.S. (incl. shipping) and wait a couple weeks to get one....and I couldn't keep my case on the phone while I used it, so I made my own. Kudos to the GameKlip if you are interested in getting one.
Here's the latest Gameklip for the Galaxy s3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027611

I do love using my GameKlip... when not using my extended battery (which I have on most of the time). This will solve all! I wonder if some sort of insulation for pipe/etc could be used to further cushion the phone... hmmm.... Maybe one of the rubber coated hangers.
Either way, how did I not think of this?! I tried sheet metal and other way more complex options, lol.
I'll post my rendition of this! Hope to try it out tonight!
THANKS AGAIN!

flawedlegacy said:
I do love using my GameKlip... when not using my extended battery (which I have on most of the time). This will solve all! I wonder if some sort of insulation for pipe/etc could be used to further cushion the phone... hmmm.... Maybe one of the rubber coated hangers.
Either way, how did I not think of this?! I tried sheet metal and other way more complex options, lol.
I'll post my rendition of this! Hope to try it out tonight!
THANKS AGAIN!
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Thank you. I have thought about something like plasti-dip ... dip the whole thing after making it...probably would just have to take into account the thickness if the coating while making it.
http://www.homedepot.com/buy/performix-brand-plasti-dip-11603-6.html#.UP1_eGdmO2U
I look forward to seeing your idea of it, please post pics. I have thought of different ways to "design" it, including having only one arm holder at the top. Making the bottom "hooks" up from the button 1 & 2 "towers" to move the phone up, etc... in the mean-time it works well for me...I hope yours does for you.

I got some Plasti-Dip at home I use on my car and thought of that as well. I got a few different ideas I'm gonna try to play with. ... Just a matter of finding time as wife and I are preparing for our firstborn. I'll definitely post pics of whatever I come up with!

possible to do a similar style but for a mini bluetooth keyboard? im having a hard time figuring out that one....

I am sure something is. I don't have a mini blue tooth keyboard. Which one do you have?
Have you seen the universal gameclip? It just sticks to a cheap case? How about a flat piece of metal stuck to case with the phone and velcro'd to the bottom of the keyboard? Could even bend it slightly if you don't want it flat?
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Excellent job
That looks pretty darn snazzy. I know I would be employing the "Close enough" meme if I tried to do that.

I have been thinking of something like this but I must design a little differently as I will use it on an xbox360 controller and a 7 inch tablet.

xdacuc said:
I have been thinking of something like this but I must design a little differently as I will use it on an xbox360 controller and a 7 inch tablet.
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Please post pics for anyone else who may want that setup. I don't have an xbox controller so I couldn't try...it definitely looks a bit trickier. Good luck.

Thanks. I will make pictures for sure. Still in the planning phase for the moment but will work on it next week.

Tried three times and failed. Baby en route, so it's on the back burner.
BTW: the rubber coated hangers SUCK to bend, rubber tears easily! Don't waste one!

I made one with 1 hook on top to hold the phone. The bend makes it act like a spring. It's easier to get the phone out of this one
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3d printer

I made mine using your instructions; I strongly encourage you to get some shrink wrap tubing. It looks much better than whatever old varnish the coat hanger may have left, and there won't be glue smudging as with electrical tape.
I happened to have a slightly larger tube which I used on the hook portion. To make the tips, after having deburred with a file, I simply left some extra length, bent that backwards and finished it off with an additional short tube added in a second pass.
It is preferable to make your bends first, then work the tubing on, as pliers will most likely damage the tubing cosmetically at least.
A small black zip tie secures the mini-USB cable. Not shown in the photos, I found an old camera lanyard and added over the metal frame for some additional security.
Here are the results:
Cheers,
Darkshado

Awesome! Thanks for posting pics! I use the sixaxis app so I don't need the wires but yours looks great with them. I like the tubing too. Your are of course absolutely right about no gummy from the tape with the tubing. I bet it makes it stickier too so the phone won't slide around.
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Darkshado said:
I made mine using your instructions; I strongly encourage you to get some shrink wrap tubing....
Darkshado
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Looks awesome, I'm definitely going to attempt one myself. What diameter heat shrink did you use? (approx)

Thanks! IIRC, the smaller one was 4-5 mm, the larger 10 mm. It can always be cut and removed if the size you're using isn't working, and tubing like this is cheap.

LONG overdue but needless to say I've failed at 3 attempts. Trying to get them perfect and they snap on me. Might just try to mod one of my 1st Gen Game Klips I got laying around since I now have the 7000mAh battery to give me PLENTY of gaming!

Guys its a lot easier to buy a spider podium and wrap it and shape it to fit your phone. Worked perfectly. Only downside is that its unremovable. Just added a camera lanyard
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pics?

Hirsch Leonardo Medici - Curved End Watch Strap

HI all...
just fitted a Hirsch Leonardo, curved end watch strap to my Gear S3 and (in my opinion at least) it goes really well with the watch.
The model shown is the Medici which is a really soft premium leather and has white stitching, they also do other models in the same range with different colours and finish combinations. I also chose the black buckle option which again works well with the Frontier ( I might even treat myself to the optional deployment clasp )
I was looking for something to flow with the body of the watch and bridge the gap between the watch body and where the strap attaches to the lugs, I think it hits the mark pretty well.
What do you guys think?
All the best!
Xerxes

Looks great. Where did you get it.
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I purchased mine from Watch Obsession here in the UK, they do ship world wide though (they also have an January sale on at the moment too )
https://www.watchobsession.co.uk/collections/hirsch-leonardo-curved-ended-watch-straps
Watchband Center also have a nice range including the now discontinued 'mobile' model which is a leather/rubber hybrid and waterproof.
http://www.watch-band-center.com/shop2/index.php/user/watchstrap/suche/1/
Worth noting that the strap doesn't have a quick release spring bar so you'd need to get a traditional Spring Bar tool to help with the installation if you don't already have one.

Xerxes8933a said:
I purchased mine from Watch Obsession here in the UK, they do ship world wide though (they also have an January sale on at the moment too )
https://www.watchobsession.co.uk/collections/hirsch-leonardo-curved-ended-watch-straps
Watchband Center also have a nice range including the now discontinued 'mobile' model which is a leather/rubber hybrid and waterproof.
http://www.watch-band-center.com/shop2/index.php/user/watchstrap/suche/1/
Worth noting that the strap doesn't have a quick release spring bar so you'd need to get a traditional Spring Bar tool to help with the installation if you don't already have one.
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Xerxes8933,
Thank you for the information. Again, great looking band. Thanks for sharing it.
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You're welcome....
As a side note, a tip I picked up from a couple of watch owners forums (Omega, Rolex etc.) is to use Scotch Tape to carefully tape up areas around the lugs and the back of the watch to help protect against accidental scratching when swapping over straps when using a spring bar tool. Takes a few minutes to do but totally worth it for added piece of mind...
Best Wishes
Xerxes8933a

Xerxes8933a said:
You're welcome....
As a side note, a tip I picked up from a couple of watch owners forums (Omega, Rolex etc.) is to use Scotch Tape to carefully tape up areas around the lugs and the back of the watch to help protect against accidental scratching when swapping over straps when using a spring bar tool. Takes a few minutes to do but totally worth it for added piece of mind...
Best Wishes
Xerxes8933a
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Great tip, thanks.
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Xerxes8933a said:
just fitted a Hirsch Leonardo, curved end watch strap to my Gear S3...
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Did you have a lot of difficulty getting the spring bars in? I'm trying to install a Leonardo to my S3, and it doesn't seem like I can adjust the inserts so that I can get them close enough to the end of the strap to engage the spring bars. What position of the insert did you use?

baristaman said:
Did you have a lot of difficulty getting the spring bars in? I'm trying to install a Leonardo to my S3, and it doesn't seem like I can adjust the inserts so that I can get them close enough to the end of the strap to engage the spring bars. What position of the insert did you use?
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Hi there...
When I first fitted the strap it was a very tight fit, this isn't just true for the Gear S3 as I did some reading and spotted that people on traditional Swiss watch owners forums (Omega, Rolex etc.) were also finding it a little difficult to fit.
The knack (I found) is to line up/insert one end of the spring bar (the opposite end to where the little cut away is in the strap) into the lug hole and then use your spring bar tool to pop the other end of the pin under the lug, once you have both ends of the spring bar under the lugs, push the strap very firmly against the body of the watch which gives you a bit more wiggle room to engage the spring bar into the second lug hole by gently nudging it into position (I hope I explained that OK ).
Initially when I first fitted the strap I had the inserts and bar set to position 7 (see attached images).
However, I noticed after a few weeks that the strap had softened up a bit (being leather) so I was able to refit the strap with the insert set to position 3 which I think looks a little better against the body of the watch (see image).
You could try position 3 but it might be a bit easier to try position 7 first and see how you get on.
In case it helps, I've also attached a picture of the underside of the watch so you can see how the strap sits against the body of the watch.
best wishes...
Xerxes

Xerxes8933a said:
When I first fitted the strap it was a very tight fit...
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Xerxes, thank you so much for such a detailed reply! I have to be honest, if it weren't for the pictures you originally posted, I would have assumed that the Gear S3 was outside of the 4.5-5.5mm adjustment range of the Leonardo, and I would have returned the straps.
I'm no stranger to watches and watch straps, have swapped straps many, many times and I've never had this much difficulty before. I went back to looking at some of the posts on the Watchuseek forums and I noticed a common theme about how challenging these straps were to install. I looked even closer at some of the installed strap pictures and I saw several where the straps were slightly marred from the installation, and I can definitely see how now. But I know it's possible here, so I'll give it another try.
Kudos on the strap installation at position 3, it looks noticeably more form-fitting than the already acceptable fitment in your original pictures.

Mission accomplished. I found that using your tip about catching one end of the spring bar in, and just getting the tip of the other end of the spring bar really helped. Instead of pushing the strap however, I found that it was much easier to push the spring bar towards the body of the watch with the small forked end of the spring bar tool.
I used position 7, but I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to use position 3 after the strap breaks in a bit. Thanks again for the help!

baristaman said:
Mission accomplished.
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Excellent!... and happy (in some small way at least) to be of assistance.
I was wondering how you got on with it all, so I'm really pleased to read you managed to install it
all the best!
Xerxes

Question Long Length Strap

Hi, I need a new watch Strap for my watch 4 classic.
It needs to be longer in length than the standard Samsung one that came with the watch as I am an ambulance driver and must be bare below the elbow for hygiene reasons.
Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations please.
Thanks

Currently I'm waiting for these both to be delivered to try them and see which is bigger.
Velcro
Elastic

maxal said:
Hi, I need a new watch Strap for my watch 4 classic.
It needs to be longer in length than the standard Samsung one that came with the watch as I am an ambulance driver and must be bare below the elbow for hygiene reasons.
Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations please.
Thanks
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spart0n said:
Currently I'm waiting for these both to be delivered to try them and see which is bigger.
Velcro
Elastic
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Go for the elastic, it's HUGE. When I used magnetic metal bands I had to get the ones that were over 10in max length to get them on and off my wrist without taking the strap off the loop. This elastic one I can get on and off with it at 75% ish not even fully open. It stretches that much, you'll be happy.

Here's some pics of it on my wrist to show you how much is left to open it that I don't need

You need a long band because you job wants you to be bare below the elbow?? That kind of doesnt make much since as a watch fits on your wrist and thats below your elbow to begin with!! LOL! Sounds like you shouldnt be wearing at watch at all but regardless, are you looking for a strap that doesnt slip and slide up and down your arm or some sort of an elastic strap that can be removed easily? Heres what I use as I work construction and with a big fat watch I'm always grabbing on something in a weird position and my watch used to get hooked on stuff and slide onto more of my wrist and I'd always scratch myself up and wind up bleeding because of it. I'ts a big fat leather strap I bought from a seller on Etsy from Poland named Dganin. Here makes some fine leather craft, a bit on the expensive side but well worth it! I bought one for my Frontier S3 years ago and just got another for my Galaxy Watch 4..........