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It has not even been 6 months since the HTC One x release.
I have bought a HTC One x last week in the hope that it would be the flagship product for HTC for next 6 months.
Alas all my hopes was shattered few days back by HTC One x+.
I have seen the rumors even before I purchase the one x.
But at that time it was said as a direct competitor for Samsung galaxy note product.
So I assumed it may not supersede HTC One x.
But recent reports are terming the one x+ as more of a successor to one x than competitor Samsung galaxy note.
In that case our mobile phone would soon become a step child for HTC from a flagship product position that too merely within 6 month of a product life cycle.
I.think nowadays mobile phone product got a short span of life cycle.
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That's how it goes. Thank Apple and their yearly release cycle.
I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. I love the One X and don't image it will be difficult to stick with it for 2 years.
...no matter how tempting the Lumia 920's PureView camera may be...
cupps said:
I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
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That's how I see it too
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Love the one you're with.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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Agreed.
Contrary to popular belief, when a newer phone is released, your devices specs DO NOT change. They will remain the same thru its entire life span
I don't care about new phones. I just want this one to get root!
Remember, there is still the Evitaire info from early august. The One X+ is codenamed Endeavor C2, that one should be for T-Mobile. Considering the AT&T One X is codenamed Evita, I'm sure the the Evitaire is for AT&T and is the One X+. We will know for sure on the 19th.
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This happens all the time. When a new device is released, people feel hard done by because a newer model is about to be released. It's just the way technology is nowadays.
And as others have said, the + isn't a massive improvement anyway
Alcoholic said:
New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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Thanks everybody for your clarifications on the One X+.
Moreover many of you have not understood my concern correctly.
I am not such an immature person to think that the mobile phone i have, would never get a successor.
Not only Apple offers a one year window before releasing a successor to it's products, But it also offers 3+ year support for it's existing products.
Expecting our investment (valuation) to be secured at least for one year is wrong?
I think, people should not complain about product support for more than one year if they didn't buy an Apple or Google Experience device.
Anyway let us hope the HTC One X+ be a T-Mobile centric mobile phone.
In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so. HTC has no choice. If it didn't refresh its hardware in 6-month time frame, other manufacturers will leave it way behind. There is no such concern from Apple because no one else get to release another iPhone.
foxbat121 said:
In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so.
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Still you didn't understand my point correctly.
Using latest and greatest mobile phone is not my point.
I want the mobile phone i purchased should receive first hand treatment from the company at least for one year.
Apple, Google and Samsung does that.
How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
I am not trying to cause issues with this post but to point something out and ponder WTF is different.
This new X, is just a slight upgrade we know, but in this picture at the Verge, it seems to have either new vent holes or a speaker outlet by the redesigned camera bezel.. IF, this is a picture of it and not something else.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/7/3300642/htc-one-x-plus-specs-leaked
What am I missing here, I haven't seen this back before, just went through every device at gsmarena and couldn't find a match, it's redesigned a little I guess. If you can't see holes, highlight picture.
WR
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My wife's 2 year old HTC Inspire got an update last month. Will it ever see ICS? I doubt it.
With Google going to a yearly software release schedule like apple I suspect my One X will see Jelly Bean but not Key Lime Pie, or Karmel Korn, or whatever they decide to call it.
You buy a phone for what it can do TODAY. Since you're on a site which is all about developing custom roms and tweaks and such, a company's official software release schedule shouldn't matter all that much anyway.
If by some bizarre chance I still have this phone in two years I'm sure CM11 or CM 12 or whatever will run on it just fine.
The dual core S4 is already capable of running everything except the hardcore games like a hot knife through butter. Android apps are a long way off from maxxing out what our SoC is capable of.
In a nutshell chasing the latest and greatest is expensive, there will always be something better on the horizon. Always buy the flagship and if you can, buy the unsubsidized unlocked version. That will keep the average XDA user happy for at least a year.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
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My Samsung Galaxy S2 (AT&T version) only received ICS updates after I purchased HTC OneX and dumped my S2.
In US, AT&T received Galaxy S2 in Oct. 2011, then a newer version of Galaxy S2 with LTE radio called Galaxy S2 SkyRocket and Galaxy Note showed up in Nov. 2011. Afterwards, AT&T is also scheduled to release Galaxy S2 SkyRocket HD in March or April 2012 but later cancelled due to incoming Galaxy S3 which released in June 2012. The SkyRocket HD did get released in Korea however. So, in about eight months, Samsung released or intend to release 5 different Android phones on the same carrrier.
This is the first time i am writing a post against an innovation, first of all i would like to mention that i like HTC ONE X that i own since May 2012 from AT&T, so this is not a hate post its more of an really upset post. HTC according to its promises during launch of one series was supposed to provide constant updates and bug fix for a group of satisfied customers, but it started making them unhappy once again when they were not releasing issues related to Wifi and calls with One X. After the release of Samsung S3 and Iphone 5 the company forgot its promises and stepped back and again changed their primary focus from Android to Windows, releasing a few window phones in Oct 2012 after iphone. Then they made a very huge mistake by releasing the HTC ONE X+ last week, where the specs of the phone are amazing for US market, but forgot to think about the 4 milllion users currently using the HTC One X. Did HTC really think we would be happy with the new phone or sad as the phones we use now are outdated within 6 months and are being sold at $29.99 and has no value of carriying it, which we bought for $149.99 or for some $199.99. And now we will have to see other people using the HTC One X at the cost of us as we tried the phone trusting the brand to keep it exclusive.
Less Battery Life, Slower CPU, Less Space, previous andrioid OS @ a higher Price. Welcome to HTC family of testers. I will make sure any product i buy next is not from HTC or its affiliates. I will buy a Samsung or an Iphone for sure, confident about them not releasing a similar product within 6 months.
Thanks HTC for making me a tester, i will make sure i don't become again. Same for AT&T for releasing it in US. You just lost a cusomter for sure.
Name one company didn't do what HTC does. Let's face it, any Android phones can only have 3 to 6 months of shielf life.
I don't have any issues with WiFi or calling. I have no doubt you have a legitimate issue, but I also don't think its that widespread. HTC is a great phone company. I've stuck with them through 5 devices, since the old Windows Mobile days. The only beef I have with them, is their anti-development posture (despite their claims to the contrary) with the locked bootloaders, and their decision to cavort with AT&T to not allow a bootloader unlock for the One X. I'm willing to bet that future HTC devices on AT&T will be similarly locked down, and that if anything will prevent me from buying their devices in the future.
The One X is an amazing piece of hardware. Them offering an update to the device is logical business sense, and doesn't degrade the real value of my phone (how I use it every day). All Android devices drop in retail value. I don't resell my devices, so I can care less. The X+ is not even out yet. So the One X is still by far the best phone out there. The GS3 has a crappy cheap feel. The iPhone 5 has a dinky screen, and a funny candy bar shape, its a joke to me. The One X is the best there is.
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ChummyDays said:
Dude. Think about the life of the galaxy s2.. they are still updating it man!
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I think he was talking more about how long a phone stays the flagship, how fast the price drops, when it gets superceded by a new phone. HTC has a bit to be desired for updates, for sure. But all the Android manufacturers have a major hardware release every several months. GS3 is newer than the One X, and Samsung already has the Note 2 coming, and I think a smaller version of the GS3, as well.
htc could keep the bootloader how it is but allow htcdev for unlock on at&t, that would let use flash on all firmwares and still keep people from bricking their phones with tegra roms. i think that should be an acceptable compromise for the time being.
Care to tell us where to buy this magical One X+ thats supposedly for sale since last week? That would be great!
Also, its cell phones dude...
SGS2 - SGS2 Skyrocket - [email protected] Sky Rocket HD - Note 1 - SGS3 - Note 2
Razr - Razr Maxx - Atrix HD Razr M- Razr i - Razr HD Maxx
Insert 10 phones here - One X - One X+
I remember when I bought a SGS2 on AT&T and not even a damn 60 days later the LTE version was already out.
Its the name of the game. More and more people are jumping to the next phone just because its the latest and greatest. Why wouldn't a business capitalize on that?
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Dude. Think about the life of the galaxy s2.. they are still updating it man!
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Which ones: there are three different versions of GS2: Original GS2, GS2 LTE/Skyrocket and GS2 LTE with HD screen (Korean only). All released within 2 or 3 months of each other. Not to mention GS3 was released soon after that. As far as I know, other than ICS update, there is no other updates for AT&T versions.
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Which ones: there are three different versions of GS2: Original GS2, GS2 LTE/Skyrocket and GS2 LTE with HD screen (Korean only). All released within 2 or 3 months of each other. Not to mention GS3 was released soon after that. As far as I know, other than ICS update, there is no other updates for AT&T versions.
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I know the sprint GS2 is still getting updates, I just flashed a update to my mother phone last week. That is the only phone i know of that is getting updated at its age. well the Evo 4G OG too
Did they state the one x will stop getting updates all together when the + comes out?
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joho5 said:
Did they state the one x will stop getting updates all together when the + comes out?
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I never seen that.
I'm not happy with the fact that the CEO of the company, Peter Chou said out his own mouth that an official bootloader unlock solution would be provided for every phone after late 2011. It's Oct now and this phone still does not have that. Because of that, this will more than likely be my first and last product I'll buy that's an HTC made product.
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I never seen that.
I'm not happy with the fact that the CEO of the company, Peter Chou said out his own mouth that an official bootloader unlock solution would be provided for every phone after late 2011. It's Oct now and this phone still does not have that. Because of that, this will more than likely be my first and last product I'll buy that's an HTC made product.
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He made an uneducated statement. Anyhow, all the mfr's are locking bl's now and relying on the carriers for approval to shipped unlocked devices. What brand will you go to?
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He made an uneducated statement. Anyhow, all the mfr's are locking bl's now and relying on the carriers for approval to shipped unlocked devices. What brand will you go to?
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One word: Nexus.
No wifi issues, No dropped calls here...
sure HTC falls behind a little on the update department but the HOX+ is not a mistake, the new flagship comes with JB which will be available a couple of weeks after the official release on the HOX and HOS, and every phone manufacturer releases an updated/better/newer version every 6 months or so.
About Samsung... 4 diferent types of S2 or something... maybe more on other carriers (who knows), Skyrocket couple of months after the release of the S2, then the Galaxy Note... Samsung made the same thing and considering the crazy amount of phones HTC released last year... this is an improvement... sort of xD
Hopefully JB will come out soon (if is not out alredy...havent look into it), and all your bugs will go away
BTW sorry about my English, doing my best!
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One word: Nexus.
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Really? All the nexus devices shipped with unlocked BL??
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beaups said:
Really? All the nexus devices shipped with unlocked BL??
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You're right they're not. Process of unlocking them isnt an issue though.
By HTC releasing a new, upgraded version of their flagship device during the same year, customers really feel like they have made a bad decision...
But....you could argue the one x plus is necessary, because the one x, one s, each sgs3 variant and countless others all are essentially the same device, with an s4 soc and at least a gig of ram.
the only variance is screen size, storage, and the materials used to build each device.
Nice to see a unique device on the market. Its not the same thing as every other phone out there.
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robstunner said:
Care to tell us where to buy this magical One X+ thats supposedly for sale since last week? That would be great!
Also, its cell phones dude...
SGS2 - SGS2 Skyrocket - [email protected] Sky Rocket HD - Note 1 - SGS3 - Note 2
Razr - Razr Maxx - Atrix HD Razr M- Razr i - Razr HD Maxx
Insert 10 phones here - One X - One X+
I remember when I bought a SGS2 on AT&T and not even a damn 60 days later the LTE version was already out.
Its the name of the game. More and more people are jumping to the next phone just because its the latest and greatest. Why wouldn't a business capitalize on that?
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Yep nailed it sounds like the op is just butt hurt that HTC released a new phone...
Btw op I've had non Wi-Fi or calling issues phones been rock stable
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If you must have the latest and greatest phones as they release quit buying carrier subsidized phones. I could care less if the price drops $0.99 subsidized, I guarantee I'm still going to get $400 for mine and will have upgrade for a couple hundred dollars. In 5-6 months, I will do it again.
That's how it is
In Android world if your phone stays on top for 6 months...consider yourself lucky...new phones launch every week...and samsung is no different...Galaxy S (Vibrant) was awful...no updates except from 2.1 to 2.2 and it had very bad firmware...thanks to CM...I am running 4.1 on it now
Wait, is my One X going to explode when the One X+ comes out?
Maybe not, but it will be REALLY embarrassing to be seen holding one
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I know I'll get flamed or locked for this, but from what I gather this phone is our exact equivalent+ sd card slot. Am I right?
http://gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-review-820p10.php
Having said that I havemt heard any mention of it in the "hoxl sux I'm buying a gs3 or nexus whatever". I'm curious as to why this is?
Anyone considered it?
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At this point, with the One X being about 9 months old, I'd be looking at a phone that is more of a significant upgrade to the One X. Not looking to upgrade right now, but more likely after my One X is a year old (this May). Maybe something along the lines of the upcoming M7.
I've never been a huge fan of the Sony devices. They don't look too shabby. But they don't seem to be very widespread, which also causes them to have pretty weak developer support.
I haven't followed the Sony devices very closely. But I remembered a while back they had pretty locked down bootloaders, which really stifled dev activity. Is this still the case?
The Xperia T also looks like it might be a bit more clunky (or at least not as sleek as the One X) and the display might not be as nice. So I'm not sure if I'd even call it an equal. But that is just based on the review you linked.
The Z looks pretty nice, but I'm sticking with the X until it dies on me
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php
redpoint73 said:
I haven't followed the Sony devices very closely. But I remembered a while back they had pretty locked down bootloaders, which really stifled dev activity. Is this still the case?.
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They offer online unlocking very similar to HTC however AT&T devices are not unlockable (sound familiar?). Unfortunately no one has found a workaround for those devices
Sony is quite good about working with the FreeXperia team, providing timely sources, submitting code to cyanogenmod and aosp, donating devices, etc. But you're right that the talent pool is still smaller, so progress isn't as quick because of how much work the good devs are shouldering
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The Z looks pretty nice, but I'm sticking with the X until it dies on me
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php
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Ditto!
I had an xperia x10, great phone that came with 2.1 and we even got GB! The problem is that Sony went good too late and everyone decided to abandon them. IMO Sony devices are the sexiest phones on the market and as said above, they help devs.
I'm also awaiting the M7 or "HTC One".. I'm loving the new leaked pictures, even though its taking an apple approach. If they include the new snapdragon 800 series processors, I'm preordering
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I'm also awaiting the M7 or "HTC One".. I'm loving the new leaked pictures, even though its taking an apple approach. If they include the new snapdragon 800 series processors, I'm preordering
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Unfortunately the Snapdragon 800 won't be in production until this summer so I don't see that happening for the new One
I've always loved sony phones since my old t-637 so naturally I looked into the T but every review I read had something negative to say about the battery life. I'm going to ride my one x til the wheels fall off, however the xperia z has definitely caught my eye. First phone I've seen since the hox to make me even think about upgrading.
The one Sony device I've had (the X10) was pretty good at the time I had it. The camera was great (especially for a device made in like 2009) and I liked the UI a lot. I was on an Xperia S rom port and it was pretty smooth for a device that old. Not sure about more recent Sony phones though
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Unfortunately the Snapdragon 800 won't be in production until this summer so I don't see that happening for the new One
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DAMNIT! then there's really no reason for me to upgrade yet... Wonder what it'll have
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At this point, with the One X being about 9 months old, I'd be looking at a phone that is more of a significant upgrade to the One X. Not looking to upgrade right now, but more likely after my One X is a year old (this May). Maybe something along the lines of the upcoming M7.
I've never been a huge fan of the Sony devices. They don't look too shabby. But they don't seem to be very widespread, which also causes them to have pretty weak developer support.
I haven't followed the Sony devices very closely. But I remembered a while back they had pretty locked down bootloaders, which really stifled dev activity. Is this still the case?
No , this not the case anymore . Sony is only company apart from nexus line which allow you to unlock boot loader easily from the tool they posted on their website ..they won xda phone of the year for 2012 because they are very friendly with unlocking and rooting stuff .. They are actively working to get Sony devices into asop ..
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Bad news guys
HTC has announced that its 2012 flagships, the One X and One X+, won’t be receiving any updates past Android 4.2.2.
htc one x 1024x576 HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2
The decision has been met with considerable criticism on Twitter, and rightly so, especially in the case of the One X+, which has been left in the lurch only 14 months after launch. What makes matters worse is that neither device will be getting Android 4.3 either, a version of the OS that came well before either phone reached the usual 18-month support cycle extended to flagship devices. It’s a scenario reminiscent of what happened with the HTC Sensation, a flagship smartphone for which support was dropped after just one major update.
HTC issued the following statement:
We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences.
The decision to not update the One X series is also disappointing when one considers how HTC has been pretty great at updating its latest flagship, the HTC One, to newer versions of Android, with the KitKat update hitting unlocked models in the U.S. within a month after Google released the update for Nexus devices. Hopefully, it’s the same level of support HTC will extend to future devices as well, though even it does, One X and One X+ owners likely won’t be putting their faith in the company when they’re due for a smartphone upgrade in a few months.
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Was this entire post all your own original writing? It looks like it came from a news site, if it did you should probably quote the source.
I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised about this news though. It's been a pretty well established fact that 4.2.2 was going to be the last official update this device would receive. And while I don't agree with HTC's update policy and schedule it does make total sense considering this device is now 20 months old. I probably won't buy another HTC device purely because of their inability to update their devices in a timely fashion (the 4.2.2 update came something like ten months after it was released by Android).
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To be honest I ain't that worried about the device being at the end if life.... Cause the sprint evo 4g lte is getting 4.3 sense 5 and we can port from that... But ontop of that in the ElementalX thread Zarboz said he's gonna take care of us with a 4.3, and 4.4 sense kernel.
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I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
They gave some cockamamie reason why the Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
On the other hand, a much newer yet weaker device was receiving further updates.
A year later, that device was no longer receiving updates.
I am seeing a trend.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!
Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Wow, you guys can really be delusional at times. I mean... seriously.
That was uncalled for.
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TeK9samurai said:
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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timmaaa said:
The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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I have to agree. If I wanted a good experience without needing updates I would get a sony phone. My next phone will probably be a samsung since they're so popular and have good dev support.
Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
musician_it said:
Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
redpoint73 said:
Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
Marlin29 said:
He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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Yeah, but the post I responded to by musician_it didn't tell you anything you didn't already know, did it (or anybody else here for that matter)?
Just my opinion, the Nexus devices have been pretty underwhelming (hardware-wise) for several iterations now. HTC simply has the best hardware around, and has for years. Its simply a shame they can't provide better long-term support on the software side.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/cffjjiq
"actively exploring" =/= won't do
Might not happen given their track record, but it's nice to think about on this Monday night.
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
Asovse1 said:
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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Its different hardware, so therefore different software. That is all he is saying. Lots of people get confused that the "international" One X (Tegra3) has so-and-so update, so why don't we (Snapdragon One X/XL), thinking its the same phone, when its not.
Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
pirlano said:
Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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grt idea.... someone with good skills should do it......
Hi,
I ask here for your help because I am planning to buy a new phone in the near future, and I am currently deciding between the One S with Snapdragon S4 and the One X with Tegra 3.
I would be very, very grateful if someone could tell me which one is better from the perspective of custom ROM development. Which one has more stable and less buggy CyanogenMod or similar AOSP-based ROMs? I've been lurking here in the One S and One X sections for some time and I can see that neither of those two phones is bugless, but I don't know how severe these problems are, if it is a dealbreaker or you can live with it. Also I get the feeling that the Tegra 3 is lacking in terms of development support and Qualcomm devices are better suited for future development. Is that so or am I wrong?
Another thing which I consider is the display quality, although it is not the main one. Does the One S screen have problems displaying white, does it have some tint? I generally love the AMOLED deep blacks, so these points will probably go to the One S.
Just one more question, how does the picture quality from the Sense camera compare to picture quality from CyanogenMod? I know Sense takes better pictures because it is optimized for the hardware, but is it a big difference?
Thank you very much for your answers, I aprecciate your help.
PS.: I posted a similar question here in the One X forum, if you want to take a look.
I had the One X and i still got the One S, so i can tell you what i like about them and what i dislike.
I would generally go with the One S because it has much much better ROM development because of the qualcomm chipset. Tegra is the WORST chipset i have ever used. I think its very hard to write drivers etc. for it. The One S has also the ability to get S-OFF'd which is a big plus for me personally. The guys at the HOX forums never managed it to gain S-OFF.
The only thing i like more at the HOX is the Display. Its by far the best 720p display i've seen so far but the HOS display is also not even close to bad. I don't think the HOS'es whites are yellow or somewhat. It isn't as white as SLCD Displays but i think thats normal for S-AMOLEDs.
Go with the One S you won't regret it
miniAndroidian said:
I had the One X and i still got the One S, so i can tell you what i like about them and what i dislike.
I would generally go with the One S because it has much much better ROM development because of the qualcomm chipset. Tegra is the WORST chipset i have ever used. I think its very hard to write drivers etc. for it. The One S has also the ability to get S-OFF'd which is a big plus for me personally. The guys at the HOX forums never managed it to gain S-OFF.
The only thing i like more at the HOX is the Display. Its by far the best 720p display i've seen so far but the HOS display is also not even close to bad. I don't think the HOS'es whites are yellow or somewhat. It isn't as white as SLCD Displays but i think thats normal for S-AMOLEDs.
Go with the One S you won't regret it
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Thank you really much for the info, that is what I needed. It's a pity I can't find a One XL from a seller I'd trust or with at least some warranty in the Czech Republic.
This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4.
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So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.
Buy a Moto G, investing in a HTC One S is not worth it at this point
speedfreak007 said:
Buy a Moto G, investing in a HTC One S is not worth it at this point
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If they sold the Moto G in the Czech Republic, I'd be thinking about it a lot. But they don't, so the One S comes at the top of my "cheap but great" phone list. And when I compare these two phones, I think the One S has a better camera and design than the Moto G, so the decision would not be easy, too.