[Q] One S vs One X in terms of development - HTC One S

Hi,
I ask here for your help because I am planning to buy a new phone in the near future, and I am currently deciding between the One S with Snapdragon S4 and the One X with Tegra 3.
I would be very, very grateful if someone could tell me which one is better from the perspective of custom ROM development. Which one has more stable and less buggy CyanogenMod or similar AOSP-based ROMs? I've been lurking here in the One S and One X sections for some time and I can see that neither of those two phones is bugless, but I don't know how severe these problems are, if it is a dealbreaker or you can live with it. Also I get the feeling that the Tegra 3 is lacking in terms of development support and Qualcomm devices are better suited for future development. Is that so or am I wrong?
Another thing which I consider is the display quality, although it is not the main one. Does the One S screen have problems displaying white, does it have some tint? I generally love the AMOLED deep blacks, so these points will probably go to the One S.
Just one more question, how does the picture quality from the Sense camera compare to picture quality from CyanogenMod? I know Sense takes better pictures because it is optimized for the hardware, but is it a big difference?
Thank you very much for your answers, I aprecciate your help.
PS.: I posted a similar question here in the One X forum, if you want to take a look.

I had the One X and i still got the One S, so i can tell you what i like about them and what i dislike.
I would generally go with the One S because it has much much better ROM development because of the qualcomm chipset. Tegra is the WORST chipset i have ever used. I think its very hard to write drivers etc. for it. The One S has also the ability to get S-OFF'd which is a big plus for me personally. The guys at the HOX forums never managed it to gain S-OFF.
The only thing i like more at the HOX is the Display. Its by far the best 720p display i've seen so far but the HOS display is also not even close to bad. I don't think the HOS'es whites are yellow or somewhat. It isn't as white as SLCD Displays but i think thats normal for S-AMOLEDs.
Go with the One S you won't regret it

miniAndroidian said:
I had the One X and i still got the One S, so i can tell you what i like about them and what i dislike.
I would generally go with the One S because it has much much better ROM development because of the qualcomm chipset. Tegra is the WORST chipset i have ever used. I think its very hard to write drivers etc. for it. The One S has also the ability to get S-OFF'd which is a big plus for me personally. The guys at the HOX forums never managed it to gain S-OFF.
The only thing i like more at the HOX is the Display. Its by far the best 720p display i've seen so far but the HOS display is also not even close to bad. I don't think the HOS'es whites are yellow or somewhat. It isn't as white as SLCD Displays but i think thats normal for S-AMOLEDs.
Go with the One S you won't regret it
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Thank you really much for the info, that is what I needed. It's a pity I can't find a One XL from a seller I'd trust or with at least some warranty in the Czech Republic.

This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4.
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So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.

Buy a Moto G, investing in a HTC One S is not worth it at this point

speedfreak007 said:
Buy a Moto G, investing in a HTC One S is not worth it at this point
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If they sold the Moto G in the Czech Republic, I'd be thinking about it a lot. But they don't, so the One S comes at the top of my "cheap but great" phone list. And when I compare these two phones, I think the One S has a better camera and design than the Moto G, so the decision would not be easy, too.

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Looking to upgrade from desire s.

Well I was looking for an advice , I don't have anyone else to ask so I come here , hope It's okay.
Anyways , I wanted to upgrade from my ds to a sensation xe or galaxy nexus but I was wondering if it is really worth it..
I love the community here , great devs and etc but a small bar on my screen isn't working and its almost impossible to use the phone :/
Now o have few options , either to upgrade either to fix my phone. I like the fact that we are getting ICS..
Any opinions?
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Both those are already old devices. Best look at a HTC One S if you can live with the 16gb internal memory, or the HTC One X if you want the flagship for 2012.
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What do you mean by a small bar isn't working?
Agree with above comments regarding upgrade.
I'd say fix (especially if it could be done cheaply or even better under warranty) and then consider replacing in six months
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You see , my budget is limited to around 400 , 500 dollars at best. (Selling my device and the regular desire )
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i second wnp_79 advice, the HTC One X with its quad-core processor and 1.5gb ram is the one too look out for.
i think the next best thing for you would be the Nexus or could you wait for the Samung Galaxy s3.
All these new phones coming out, its an exciting time for the Android platform!!!
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
I would say go for one s its a superb phone had it for 2 hours with me....
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
What do you mean by "developer phone"?
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
Do what you're saying is that I should stay with the desire s a bit of more time?
I like sense , especially the 4 lite version but I have no problem with the stock android.
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Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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dan-fish said:
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
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Turns out that the store is being refurbished, and Samsung is paying for part of it
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If it's not a problem, and you can fix its screen problem cheaply - yes, I think it'll be better. Unless you really want to spend money - in this case, all the One X/S talk is irrelevant, and your options are Sensation or AT&T Galaxy S2 - pick whichever you like.
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mmmcfc said:
The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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Buggy like hell, at least the Sense. It's like saying HD2 has every possible ROM ported to it - true, and they were all in semi-functional state since Froyo - so they're worthless. Much like the current ICS ports all around the MSM8x55-based device forums, which are useful only for people that don't use half of their phones' capabilities. But with a small difference - those devices, at least DHD and DS, will get a fully functional ICS, because it'll be officially released for them, while Nexus devices will most likely never get a stable ROM, if I can judge by what happened until now.
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"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
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Aah i see, at first i thought it was a phone for dev only, kinda like for testing purpose. Thank for the info mate.
Arcaneex said:
Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Well i put up my Desire S for sale for 270JDs (about 300$?) and someone offered to exchange mine for his for 80$, not a bad thing i'd say, and i've already had it with this phone =.= (not the desire S itself, just the one i have), so i guess it'll be allright, i just need to find the money now hahaha
i'd like a bigger screen, bigger battery, and i'm a sucker for black/red, also them beats headphones ;D;
although the battery drain will go with the hardware, i think it'll be a bit better than my DS
i think galaxy nexus is a good choice
Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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Made for some interesting reading... appreciate the time taken, and agree with the content therein.

[Q] One x or One xl

so i am stuck between one x and one xl , not sure which one is better for me. Can anyone tell me which one is better in general? Will the updates affect the efficiency of the handsets cuz afterall one x has a quad core chip and one xl has a dual core. Another thing is i have been told that yellow stints are often going to appear on the screen when overheated is that true and what about the wifi problem for the one x D: is that true too?
if you're into gaming or running a lot of apps at once, then the one x is going to be better, because it has tegra 3 with console quality game support. Otherwise the one xl has a very good processor for pretty much everything. The one xl will have better battery life, but half the internal storage. I had the option of both and I went with the one x because I need more than 16 gb storage, I like tegra 3 games, and I hate att branding on my phones. The one x will also get much faster updates since the one xl's updates are slowed down due to att.
hummmmmm... yea i use it mainly for gaming LOL well i think i am gonna go for the one x but arent the processors the same tho? and by battery life how much does one xl save?
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hummmmmm... yea i use it mainly for gaming LOL well i think i am gonna go for the one x but arent the processors the same tho? and by battery life how much does one xl save?
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Do some more research on your own. That's the best thing you can do.
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i have!!!!!!!!!!!! but people keep saying different things like how they have the same speed and some say that this one is faster and that says that one is faster.... I AM SO CONFUSED DUNNO WHICH ONE TO BUY
You are looking to be told which one is better. the problem is... it's all subjective and based on everyone else's opinions and needs. Set the spec sheets for each side-by-side and do a comparison. More storage a priority? go with X. Gaming a priority? go with X. Updates a priority... go with X. etc etc. Perceived 'speed' is subjective too. Everyone has an opinion on it. But really, in the end I'm going to assume you won't notice much of a difference between the two different processors.
just need to find the one that has the most benefits to you personally.

I'm thinking of leaving Bada and buying an Android. Maybe this One S..?

Good morning.
I owned a Samsung Wave S8500 for the last two years and a Nokia E6 (one of the best phones I ever had).
After two years I feel sad because my Wave has a great hardware, but Samsung abandoned it, and the applications are still few, so I was thinking to buy an Android.
I'm searching for a phone with these features:
-support from community for a long time with ICS, JB, KLP (I would like to keep this phone for at least 2-3 years).
-good battery performance (my E6 lasts at least 2 days with data always on, so I hope that the battery will last for 1,5 days)
-I don't want a huge phone like the GNexus\SIII
So, One S owners, do you think that this phone fits for me?
Are there enough optimized roms?
Thanks a lot
I'd avoid it for now as most versions are now using the S3 chip. The S4 chip is the better version. Although a good phone wait a few months new releases will push down prices of current models.
You'll have a good choice to choose from in the last quarter of the year.
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nikzDHD said:
I'd avoid it for now as most versions are now using the S3 chip. The S4 chip is the better version. Although a good phone wait a few months new releases will push down prices of current models.
You'll have a good choice to choose from in the last quarter of the year.
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Here in Italy most of the One S are S4, and I'd bought it used because I can find it at 330 euros.
I don't want to spend 500 euros for a phone. I'd like to spend at the most 350 euros...
It's a good phone, but if you get the One S with the 1.7 GHz S3 processor, you might as well go with a Sensation and S-OFF the device for many more custom ROMs.
You could kiss your awesome Nokia battery life days good bye. I was the same (coming from the E71 though).
Android is power hungry but if you dont use your phone alot you could get a MAX of 2 days (my own experience with the one s with wifi on but not data).
If you want long term rom development, I would go for the GS3. With HTC releasing the one s with different socs it only hurt development and we don't know if the s3 soc is going to be the way forward.
I truely miss my Nokia but I don't see myself going for Windows Phone soon.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
It's a good phone, but if you get the One S with the 1.7 GHz S3 processor, you might as well go with a Sensation and S-OFF the device for many more custom ROMs.
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I'd prefer to buy a recent phone, so I can keep it for at least 3 years. And as I said before, here in Italy most of used One S are S4.
Pheroh said:
You could kiss your awesome Nokia battery life days good bye. I was the same (coming from the E71 though).
Android is power hungry but if you dont use your phone alot you could get a MAX of 2 days (my own experience with the one s with wifi on but not data).
If you want long term rom development, I would go for the GS3. With HTC releasing the one s with different socs it only hurt development and we don't know if the s3 soc is going to be the way forward.
I truely miss my Nokia but I don't see myself going for Windows Phone soon.
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The GSIII and GNexus are too big for me. I like phones thar are pocketable and the One S is so slim that fits perfectly in my pocket, while with the GSIII I can't lift my leg...
You could try whit razr maxx...same one s screen size and resolution, but triple battery life
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From what you have said there, the one S sounds like your best bet. It is kind of pointless buying any devices at the minute though as we should be getting a number of new nexus devices around November as well as a few other phones by HTC etc. but they will most likely cost £400+
The only other alternatives, although not as good overall, are the GS 2 and xperia S.
The developing community should be good and going strong for at least another year and still be some activity for another year. 3 years hard to say.... most people get a new phone every year or 2 and some every few months.
Even if you did get the S3 version, the one S is still good and better than most other phones, in real world usage the biggest impact would be the battery life.
As I replied in another thread comparing against the desire S and sensation XE, the same will apply when compared to the sensation and in some areas also against the GS 2 and xperia S etc., maybe just not as much of a difference in a few things i.e. the camera quality:
Terminator19 said:
Eh?
It is still far better than a desire S even with the S3/adreno 220 and better than the XE (apart from storage options and you have removable batteries with them), excluding the GPU/CPU:
- far better camera overall, absolutely no contest between them
- way better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- better screen overall (although some might prefer LCD on the XE and DS)
- battery life will still be better anyway
- more RAM
- much better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- also another wee plus is that you will get more money when you sell the one S rather than the desire S and XE in a few months time or a year in order to fund for a new phone
Only reason to get the DS or XE is for a removable battery and SD slot and perhaps a better developing community (no idea what it is like for them)
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Bada sucks, buy the One S!
Terminator19 said:
From what you have said there, the one S sounds like your best bet. It is kind of pointless buying any devices at the minute though as we should be getting a number of new nexus devices around November as well as a few other phones by HTC etc. but they will most likely cost £400+
The only other alternatives, although not as good overall, are the GS 2 and xperia S.
The developing community should be good and going strong for at least another year and still be some activity for another year. 3 years hard to say.... most people get a new phone every year or 2 and some every few months.
Even if you did get the S3 version, the one S is still good and better than most other phones, in real world usage the biggest impact would be the battery life.
As I replied in another thread comparing against the desire S and sensation XE, the same will apply when compared to the sensation and in some areas also against the GS 2 and xperia S etc., maybe just not as much of a difference in a few things i.e. the camera quality:
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I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
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Bada sucks, buy the One S!
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I'd prefer to say that Samsung sucks
Bada 2 years ago was a pretty decent and promising OS, but Samsung forgotten it.
And the Wave has still a pretty good hardware.
Alan Slade said:
I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
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The XS isn't as powerful as the S4 one S either. The screen is 720P, although I personally think the overall quality of the screen regarding colours etc. is pretty poor (although that is just my opinion, most people love it). Battery life isn't great iirc. The camera is very good, better than the GS 2 iirc, although is it better than the one S overall, probably not, the 1080P capture will be better though. Essentially:
Pros of the S (S4 version):
- better camera overall
- much better CPU/GPU
- better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- colours of the screen
- battery life
- better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- IMO sense V4 is far better
Pros of XS:
- much much sharper screen
- better 1080P recording
- more internal storage
- NFC
- possibly getting JB, SE are very good with updates, however, they do take a long time to get them out
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The XS isn't as powerful as the S4 one S either. The screen is 720P, although I personally think the overall quality of the screen regarding colours etc. is pretty poor (although that is just my opinion, most people love it). Battery life isn't great iirc. The camera is very good, better than the GS 2 iirc, although is it better than the one S overall, probably not, the 1080P capture will be better though. Essentially:
Pros of the S (S4 version):
- better camera overall
- much better CPU/GPU
- better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- colours of the screen
- battery life
- better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- IMO sense V4 is far better
Pros of XS:
- much much sharper screen
- better 1080P recording
- more internal storage
- NFC
- possibly getting JB, SE are very good with updates, however, they do take a long time to get them out
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I don't need a good camera on the phone, because I'm a photographer
As I said that I prefer the One s on the XS and GSII, and your post tell me that I've chosen right
For the updates, I think I'll use one of the roms on this forum (but first I must understand hot to root, install a recovery and so on lol), like the ViperOneS etc. and not the stock rom.
I haven't rooted my S, so can't really advise but the guide here seems to be very good and rather easy to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
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I haven't rooted my S, so can't really advise but the guide here seems to be very good and rather easy to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
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When i bought my One S i used that tutorial to Root, install CWM and later Viper One S Rom. It's an amazing phone.
I'm not a fan of S3 version (overclock and battery don't go well together.) It's contact linking and sync capabilities i think they are better than GSIII. Fast and reliable and the tweaks make it even better.
Alan Slade said:
I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
I'd prefer to say that Samsung sucks
Bada 2 years ago was a pretty decent and promising OS, but Samsung forgotten it.
And the Wave has still a pretty good hardware.
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+1
I gave my wave to my gf as she does not use whatsapp. Pretty fine built phone, great hardware (even nowadays 1GHz single core 5 mpx cammera phones are launched) and smooth OS, but with no support.
Good evening to all.
Finally I decided to buy a One S. It will arrive on monday.
As I said before, this will be my first Android phone, so I don't know anything about flash, bootloader, roms, kernels and so on,
I would like to try the ViperOneS rom (because everybody seems happy with it), but I don't know how to install it.
Also, is the Fusion Ultimate kernel good\necessary? Are this rom and kernel stable so I can have a good experience with this One S without problems?
Where I can find a guide to find out how to do this properly thing without bricking my phone? :fingers-crossed:
Thanks
No one can help me?
Alan Slade said:
No one can help me?
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Hey just check out this thread read the instruction thoroughly and you should be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
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Alan Slade said:
Good evening to all.
Finally I decided to buy a One S. It will arrive on monday.
As I said before, this will be my first Android phone, so I don't know anything about flash, bootloader, roms, kernels and so on,
I would like to try the ViperOneS rom (because everybody seems happy with it), but I don't know how to install it.
Also, is the Fusion Ultimate kernel good\necessary? Are this rom and kernel stable so I can have a good experience with this One S without problems?
Where I can find a guide to find out how to do this properly thing without bricking my phone? :fingers-crossed:
Thanks
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I don't know if the kernel is good (I've never tried it), but it is not necessary to install it.
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if i was you i would wait for the next nexus
when i got the One S i thought the devs would just buy it immediately but for some reason they went after the stupid One X
( OmG quad COORE is faster than DUeL buy buy )
just wait for the next nexus and ull keep getting faster updates than anything else

my 90 day trade in: Optimus G? One X+? Keep One X?

I switched over to att in early august through costco and was given a 90 day phone trade in guarantee. I really do not have any reason to complain about my One X as it meets and exceeds my needs and expectations but I do intend to get my "contracts" worth and would like to have the latest and greatest i can before i'm locked in. At first I was interested in the X+ as it would have the quadcore goodness of the international version in the body i've already come ot love but seeing the minor performance lead the int version has compared to bat drain it seems more like a sideways move or minor upgrade. On the other end the Optimus G will have a quadcore version of the same chip we are all using now. Adreno 320 and a screen comparable to what I currently have. Of course there is the wait time for root, the possibility of never getting it, waiting for Cm, the possibility of never officially getting CM and and so on that would make sticking to the One X I have a viable option over upgrading. What do you all think? What option would you go with?
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I switched over to att in early august through costco and was given a 90 day phone trade in guarantee. I really do not have any reason to complain about my One X as it meets and exceeds my needs and expectations but I do intend to get my "contracts" worth and would like to have the latest and greatest i can before i'm locked in. At first I was interested in the X+ as it would have the quadcore goodness of the international version in the body i've already come ot love but seeing the minor performance lead the int version has compared to bat drain it seems more like a sideways move or minor upgrade. On the other end the Optimus G will have a quadcore version of the same chip we are all using now. Adreno 320 and a screen comparable to what I currently have. Of course there is the wait time for root, the possibility of never getting it, waiting for Cm, the possibility of never officially getting CM and and so on that would make sticking to the One X I have a viable option over upgrading. What do you all think? What option would you go with?
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NOboday can tell you what to do .. you have to make the choice yourself ..
I would probably get the optimus g
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i would've gotten the One X+ but the color scheme is boring
optimus g seems interesting but i never liked LG for phones
if you want LG, wait for the LG Nexus 4
However, I'm not sure about going with any LG phones at this point with the disaster that was the G2x. If anything, wait for the phone to be out for a few months to see if the early adopters report any issues with hardware.
I would say get the one X+ and hope it gets as good of a dev community as we have here and isn't locked down like it more than likely will be for awhile. The upgrades aren't too significant but if you want the latest and greatest for the next 6 months until the one X+s MAXX comes out that's your best bet.
Look at the specs and decide which one u want ...how is some random person on a forum with their own opinion and view points going to tell you which phone you should get..review each one and think of which would fit you best its not hard
My opinion on this is: wrong section. This belongs in Q&A.
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omario8484 said:
Look at the specs and decide which one u want ...how is some random person on a forum with their own opinion and view points going to tell you which phone you should get..review each one and think of which would fit you best its not hard
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I'm not sure where I stated I want someone to decide for me. I'm trying to fill in blanks in info that I can't fill or won't be able to until the day before my 90 days run out. Specs aren't enough info. I know the lg will have superior soc But I've never had an lg phone so I know nothing of their build quality. Thankfully some people hinted that its been poor historicaly poor. Another bit of info im wondering is will the similarities in the int one x and x+ streamline development once root has been achieved or are the differences likely too great? I know I'll be waiting if I switch but a small one may be worth an incremental performance increase.I'm not looking for baseless opinions but rather details and things to take into consideration I may have forgotten or overlooked
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I've never had an lg phone so I know nothing of their build quality. Thankfully some people hinted that its been poor historicaly poor.
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LG continues to make cheap feeling and looking phones. They've gotten better lately, but still pale in comparison to HTC, which has the best physical design and build quality, IMO.
the LG was just announced to have a locked bootloader
LesserAnimal said:
I switched over to att in early august through costco and was given a 90 day phone trade in guarantee. I really do not have any reason to complain about my One X as it meets and exceeds my needs and expectations but I do intend to get my "contracts" worth and would like to have the latest and greatest i can before i'm locked in. At first I was interested in the X+ as it would have the quadcore goodness of the international version in the body i've already come ot love but seeing the minor performance lead the int version has compared to bat drain it seems more like a sideways move or minor upgrade. On the other end the Optimus G will have a quadcore version of the same chip we are all using now. Adreno 320 and a screen comparable to what I currently have. Of course there is the wait time for root, the possibility of never getting it, waiting for Cm, the possibility of never officially getting CM and and so on that would make sticking to the One X I have a viable option over upgrading. What do you all think? What option would you go with?
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I'd go One X+. Quad core processor, bigger battery (1800 vs 2100mAh), and most importantly more storage! I am constantly having to manage what is on my phone and wish it had come with 32GB or 64GB. That alone is worth the swap out.
As for the Optimus G, I am not a huge LG fan. Their build quality in the past has been meh (although it looks like they are getting much better), but software updates are usually non-existent.
I will go for one x + and only reason for that is storage option
There is very little to dislike about about the Optimus G -- it's crazy fast (It's benchmarking everyone into the ground) I'ts spec'd correctly at 2 Gigs and 32 Gigs out of the box (with half the 32 for AT&T coming in the form a removable micro SD) Although I've not seen it, those who have, say the display is a close second to the HOXL. It's just so ..... Boxy and dated looking..
Personally, I think it would be a mistake to get the HOXL+ because its very obvious what HTC is trying to do. They are "Staging Tech" in an attempt to turn a single device cycle into a trilogy. They are a distant 3rd behind Apple and Samsung so the need to make sure that they have a "new device" out at all times. Remember, some 75,000 AT&T customers are up for contract every single day - so when "Joe" walks into a store, he has no idea that a 6 month old phone for under a $100 bucks is still arguably the best - he just simply wants the newest one which in his mind must be the best. What HTC is doing is crap -- essentially screwing over there ever dwindling fan base in a very short-sighted money grab. It sucks because I think despite the 3 "purposely" glossed over deficiencies of the HOXL... it still rocks. Yeah, I said on purpose --- Do you really believe that a bunch of engineers graduating from the likes of Cal Tech, MIT and Stanford were oblivious to the fact that their gorgeous little baby with the body of an athlete has somewhat the "capacity" of a child with special needs and an ever so slight hitch in her step????.
My advice is to hold off on the "Plus" --part 2 of the screw - still only 1 Gig of RAM - currently ok for a tablet but for a device that has an ever present and running dialer in its background it could struggle and offset the whole 4 core experience ----- Wait for the "PLUS +" I'm sure it will be out sometime late spring with the extra Gig that we will all have been whinning about and maybe HTC will even throw in battery access

Do you think Nexus 4 would be a good upgrade from the One S?

So with the new announcement of the Nexus 4 and how it will work on T-Mobile's network, I've been wondering if I should sell my One S to buy the Nexus 4? Is anyone else having similar thoughts? I am really interested in the bigger screen, higher resolution, as well as the S4 Pro processor and the 2 GB of ram. The One S has served me well but waiting on an official Jelly Bean release from HTC has been a big pain, though ParanoidAndroid has helped me deal with that. I can't imagine it being supported officially when 4.3 comes out.
Just wondering what everyone else thinks of the Nexus 4 in comparison to our One S.
Sorry, I didn't realize I was posting to the General section. This should belong to the Q&A section. I tried, but I don't know how to delete or move the thread.
I feel bad for messing up.
No worries a mod will move it. But on topic yeah its a great upgrade, it has the best specs on the market right now and it's only £279 I have already decided to upgrade and we can sell are one s on eBay and get the nexus 4 for like £30 on top.
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I'm actually considering the same thing. Allthough the one S is a gorgeous device with good preformance and a wonderfulll build quality. But for this price its a real bargain, and as im on a 2 year contract i doubt the one s will keep up to speed. Plus I'm afraid alot of dev will jump ship aswell (some allready are).
Pro's for getting the Nexus 4 over the one S
- Better screen, this was a mayor lackbuster for the one S
- Newest chipset, allthough the oneS is doing a great job here, there is no denying the power of the s4 pro, and the nexus has a fresh aosp on top of that.
- Huge development community behind it
Con's
- Allthough the nexus has a great camera it doesnt has the same preformance and usability (burst, 0shutterlag, ect.)
- No sense. Yes its bloat, but we can't deny the solid preformance it has nowdays, and if we look at what 4.1 did for the one X i think i rather have a fun Sense ui over a vannila blend aosp nowdays (boring).
- I think i prefer the build quality on the one S, and it looks alot better aswell.
Still with this display, preformance, newest android builds is it hard not to consider it, especially with that price. And the development behind the nexus devices are really tempting too.
I'm buying the LG nexus 4 and selling HTC One S S3 because this phone was garbage. This was my last phone from HTC.
Goodbye HTC (crap), hello Nexus 4!
I like my HOS S4 but I cant resist the S4 Pro chip and the 2 GB of ram. The only con is the lack of an SD slot like the HOS.
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icet69 said:
I like my HOS S4 but I cant resist the S4 Pro chip and the 2 GB of ram. The only con is the lack of an SD slot like the HOS.
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I really like the my HOS S4 but I'll sell my One S for about the same price of the Nexus 4.
PS: I don't care about the SD
There is just one "small" problem. It looks like in Italy the phone it will cost probably 549€ or 599€ instead of 349€ like Spain\France\Germany(via play store)...so I won't sell my One S
Vauix said:
I'm actually considering the same thing. Allthough the one S is a gorgeous device with good preformance and a wonderfulll build quality. But for this price its a real bargain, and as im on a 2 year contract i doubt the one s will keep up to speed. Plus I'm afraid alot of dev will jump ship aswell (some allready are).
Pro's for getting the Nexus 4 over the one S
- Better screen, this was a mayor lackbuster for the one S
- Newest chipset, allthough the oneS is doing a great job here, there is no denying the power of the s4 pro, and the nexus has a fresh aosp on top of that.
- Huge development community behind it
Con's
- Allthough the nexus has a great camera it doesnt has the same preformance and usability (burst, 0shutterlag, ect.)
- No sense. Yes its bloat, but we can't deny the solid preformance it has nowdays, and if we look at what 4.1 did for the one X i think i rather have a fun Sense ui over a vannila blend aosp nowdays (boring).
- I think i prefer the build quality on the one S, and it looks alot better aswell.
Still with this display, preformance, newest android builds is it hard not to consider it, especially with that price. And the development behind the nexus devices are really tempting too.
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This pretty much sums it up. I wont buy it, as my contact lasts one year
Will probably move to it as well, main reasons are
- nexus phone therefore we get updates as soon as they are released and will be guaranteed to get them
- bigger screen
I love the one s, prefer sense to stock android, will probably have a better camera and it has way more features, prefer Samoled, better design/build etc. but HTC as a company have really let it down with support and slow updates, can't see jb hitting my phone for another 4 weeks or so....
I just need to see reviews of it first and user opinions for the audio, camera and battery life, there are reviews for the optimus g, but lg's software seems to have been very poorly optimised (software/driver optimisation is very important in these areas), although these areas still look very good anyway except the camera.
In theory the battery should be better than the s as the n4 has a next gen battery, more power efficient screen and s4 pro, the adreno 320 is more power efficient than the adreno 225
I'm tempted by it so much too just cause its a new phone lol ... But I really don't like the huge screen and I'd miss my camera too much cause the camera the HOS has is too good .. AND honestly the way it feels and the weight and all that makes me not wanna sell this ... On top of all that I think I actually like sense over stock lol ...and screw LG after the g2x I don't think I'm ever getting over that
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icecicle said:
I'm tempted by it so much too just cause its a new phone lol ... But I really don't like the huge screen and I'd miss my camera too much cause the camera the HOS has is too good .. AND honestly the way it feels and the weight and all that makes me not wanna sell this ... On top of all that I think I actually like sense over stock lol ...and screw LG after the g2x I don't think I'm ever getting over that
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Wow, are you me? I really do love the camera on the One S and the build quality just feels excellent; the two things that I would say it has over the Nexus 4. I like the cool metal case and just how professional and solid it feel. Like you, I also had the G2x before the One S and felt like they had screwed me over (Crappy drivers, crappy camera, crappy promise of ICS, etc.). I'll have to really see if I trust Google more than I distrust LG on making a good phone...
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I'll have to really see if I trust Google more than I distrust LG on making a good phone...
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Lol that right there is what i need to figure out too Lol couldn't have said it better
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Though HTC is not so good at delivering updates, in my opinion it is the most reliable OEM out there. So i won't move to LG or Samsung. My reason is based mostly on build quality, which kida sucks on LG and Samsung when compared to HTC.
Also, i don't really see the point in having the latest gadget. The HOS S4 will still be breathing at least a year from now, the CPU and GPU are strong enough. Plus, i don't really see how a quad core will help me on a mobile phone.
The only Nexus i really miss is the original Nexus One, the HTC Desire's brother.
You do realise that lg have nothing to do with the software? All they have done is made the phone and everything regarding software is handled by Google since it's a nexus phone.
Google said they shipped the lg design team over to Google headquarters in order to work with them very closely on the design and ergonomics of the phone.
Lg make fantastic hardware and a lot of their phones are very good as usual they are let down by the poor support and awful software.
I am really thinking about selling my One S S3 and getting a Nexus 4. I seems to be a very good phone.
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I am really thinking about selling my One S S3 and getting a Nexus 4. I seems to be a very good phone.
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I would definitely agree if you have the One S S3. It would be a significant speed bump and there probably isn't a significant con to the Nexus 4 that the One S doesn't share (non-removable battery, no SD card, etc.). I think the S4 version would be a tougher decision as to whether or not to upgrade to the Nexus 4.
Im getting the Nexus 4 the second I have the funds.
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I would definitely agree if you have the One S S3. It would be a significant speed bump and there probably isn't a significant con to the Nexus 4 that the One S doesn't share (non-removable battery, no SD card, etc.). I think the S4 version would be a tougher decision as to whether or not to upgrade to the Nexus 4.
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But I'm too lazy to find someone who wants to buy it. And I don't want to sell it for under 300€.
Ruwin said:
Though HTC is not so good at delivering updates, in my opinion it is the most reliable OEM out there. So i won't move to LG or Samsung. My reason is based mostly on build quality, which kida sucks on LG and Samsung when compared to HTC.
Also, i don't really see the point in having the latest gadget. The HOS S4 will still be breathing at least a year from now, the CPU and GPU are strong enough. Plus, i don't really see how a quad core will help me on a mobile phone.
The only Nexus i really miss is the original Nexus One, the HTC Desire's brother.
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My thoughts exactly although I still have my N1, it will always be the one I never let go.
The speed and performance on this phone is outstanding and well asop has become very boring and old. Sense for me was a very big suprise as its come such a long way and just gets better. For me I'm sticking with my One S.
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But I'm too lazy to find someone who wants to buy it. And I don't want to sell it for under 300€.
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Lol, no way you will get 300 euros for a S3 one S, when you could get a S4 one S for that.
Especially if you have the black model, which has chipping issues.
Only way is if you can find someone around your area who don't have a clue about tech/android stuff.

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