Anyone considered a Sony Xperia T? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

I know I'll get flamed or locked for this, but from what I gather this phone is our exact equivalent+ sd card slot. Am I right?
http://gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-review-820p10.php
Having said that I havemt heard any mention of it in the "hoxl sux I'm buying a gs3 or nexus whatever". I'm curious as to why this is?
Anyone considered it?
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At this point, with the One X being about 9 months old, I'd be looking at a phone that is more of a significant upgrade to the One X. Not looking to upgrade right now, but more likely after my One X is a year old (this May). Maybe something along the lines of the upcoming M7.
I've never been a huge fan of the Sony devices. They don't look too shabby. But they don't seem to be very widespread, which also causes them to have pretty weak developer support.
I haven't followed the Sony devices very closely. But I remembered a while back they had pretty locked down bootloaders, which really stifled dev activity. Is this still the case?
The Xperia T also looks like it might be a bit more clunky (or at least not as sleek as the One X) and the display might not be as nice. So I'm not sure if I'd even call it an equal. But that is just based on the review you linked.

The Z looks pretty nice, but I'm sticking with the X until it dies on me
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php

redpoint73 said:
I haven't followed the Sony devices very closely. But I remembered a while back they had pretty locked down bootloaders, which really stifled dev activity. Is this still the case?.
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They offer online unlocking very similar to HTC however AT&T devices are not unlockable (sound familiar?). Unfortunately no one has found a workaround for those devices
Sony is quite good about working with the FreeXperia team, providing timely sources, submitting code to cyanogenmod and aosp, donating devices, etc. But you're right that the talent pool is still smaller, so progress isn't as quick because of how much work the good devs are shouldering

954wrecker said:
The Z looks pretty nice, but I'm sticking with the X until it dies on me
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php
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Ditto!

I had an xperia x10, great phone that came with 2.1 and we even got GB! The problem is that Sony went good too late and everyone decided to abandon them. IMO Sony devices are the sexiest phones on the market and as said above, they help devs.

I'm also awaiting the M7 or "HTC One".. I'm loving the new leaked pictures, even though its taking an apple approach. If they include the new snapdragon 800 series processors, I'm preordering
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InflatedTitan said:
I'm also awaiting the M7 or "HTC One".. I'm loving the new leaked pictures, even though its taking an apple approach. If they include the new snapdragon 800 series processors, I'm preordering
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Unfortunately the Snapdragon 800 won't be in production until this summer so I don't see that happening for the new One

I've always loved sony phones since my old t-637 so naturally I looked into the T but every review I read had something negative to say about the battery life. I'm going to ride my one x til the wheels fall off, however the xperia z has definitely caught my eye. First phone I've seen since the hox to make me even think about upgrading.

The one Sony device I've had (the X10) was pretty good at the time I had it. The camera was great (especially for a device made in like 2009) and I liked the UI a lot. I was on an Xperia S rom port and it was pretty smooth for a device that old. Not sure about more recent Sony phones though

boomn said:
Unfortunately the Snapdragon 800 won't be in production until this summer so I don't see that happening for the new One
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DAMNIT! then there's really no reason for me to upgrade yet... Wonder what it'll have
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redpoint73 said:
At this point, with the One X being about 9 months old, I'd be looking at a phone that is more of a significant upgrade to the One X. Not looking to upgrade right now, but more likely after my One X is a year old (this May). Maybe something along the lines of the upcoming M7.
I've never been a huge fan of the Sony devices. They don't look too shabby. But they don't seem to be very widespread, which also causes them to have pretty weak developer support.
I haven't followed the Sony devices very closely. But I remembered a while back they had pretty locked down bootloaders, which really stifled dev activity. Is this still the case?
No , this not the case anymore . Sony is only company apart from nexus line which allow you to unlock boot loader easily from the tool they posted on their website ..they won xda phone of the year for 2012 because they are very friendly with unlocking and rooting stuff .. They are actively working to get Sony devices into asop ..
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[Q] One S Development

Hello guys, i'm in love with the One S, but i've been watching the forums lately, and the One S is receiving way less attention then the One X.
We have at least 3 big and great custom Roms for the One X, and i can't see any for the One S yet.
Do you guys think the One S android development is going to reach the One X sometime?
I want to know this, before i buy the phone, or else i'm getting a One X
One x doesn't have a bootable cyanogenmod..mainly sense roms. The desire HD took a while to kick in on dev side also..its preference
The only development missing is really cyanogenmod daily type and tool sets Modding battery etc.you won't be missing out on much.plus our battery's last longer and doesn't have the flex issue the first x stock has lol
It is slow bit but come onn...crap phones have active development...it will happen.
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One X counts as "Flagship" so more ppl buying it - more development. But I think after first few 2-3 month ppl will understand that S is as good as X, also I guess it wont be problem to take same roms from X and make them avaible for S.
Definetly not something what should affect your decision about what phone to buy. Choose which u like more, the development of roms will be good for both.
Maybe One S will get more attention after it gets released on Tmobile.
kolyan said:
Maybe One S will get more attention after it gets released on Tmobile.
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Exactly this phone is still yet to be released in some parts of the world. Maybe the best developers don't have the phone yet. It's early days so be patient
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Well, thank you, you guys have helped me alot. One more question, about the battery life on the One S, is it good? Can it be compared to the HTC Desire?
Once again, thanks!
Guizzoni said:
Well, thank you, you guys have helped me alot. One more question, about the battery life on the One S, is it good? Can it be compared to the HTC Desire?
Once again, thanks!
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The battery life is very god. I have about One and half day on battery with some surf, phonecalls and sync.
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much better then the desire and desire HD...I owned both
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I'm so happy that I opted for the S instead of the X. In my (humble) opinion, most people have been drawn to the Quad core of the X - but it seems the S is just as, if not more, powerful!
I think as people realise that the S is up there in the power ratings then development will pick up. I hope so, I miss having my Insertcoin\ARHD etc ROMs to choose from =D
raikesy said:
I'm so happy that I opted for the S instead of the X. In my (humble) opinion, most people have been drawn to the Quad core of the X - but it seems the S is just as, if not more, powerful!
I think as people realise that the S is up there in the power ratings then development will pick up. I hope so, I miss having my Insertcoin\ARHD etc ROMs to choose from =D
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Its not the Quad-core that stands out on X, its the 720p IPS SLCD2 display. Its the best on the market today. I havent seen One S in person, but usually SAMOLED displays suck big time, perhaps HTC done some calibration on this one to make it better.
I love the Amoled screen, I thought it was ace on the SGS.... I think its even better on the One S....
if someone doesnt like it, They tend to slate it, and that puts other people off... instead of just sayin 'personally its not for me, i prefer the xxxxxx screen' they rant and rave 'oh its **** dont waste your money'
and it gives it a bad reputation
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I love the Amoled screen, I thought it was ace on the SGS.... I think its even better on the One S....
if someone doesnt like it, They tend to slate it, and that puts other people off... instead of just sayin 'personally its not for me, i prefer the xxxxxx screen' they rant and rave 'oh its **** dont waste your money'
and it gives it a bad reputation
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all i know is that it was/is a disaster on Galaxy Nexus....and its 720p. I have IPS LG right now and colors are great, I had Vibrant also and it was so so.
Back on track of Development , I can't wait for S-OFF
Calm down azzle lol..I get what your saying though.I personally love the screen..didn't at first but messed around with the contrast now its lovely
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Got mine today and its sublime. I'm going to wait a while for root. But it's bound to happen. Just as it did and still is on the desire.
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Apparently lots os people are upgrading from the desire to this phone. Well, I just chose my next phone. It's going to be the HTC One S!
Now I just have to wait for the One S to launch in Brazil.
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I'm pretty sure the One s will get a lot of dev since its the same internationally unlike the one x/xl/evo 4g lte
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I won't buy a phone if I don't think there's going to be a good amount of development for it. That being said, I think the fact that its a global phone will help alot.
and its being announced by T-Mobile right now.
Stiflerlv said:
One X counts as "Flagship" so more ppl buying it - more development. But I think after first few 2-3 month ppl will understand that S is as good as X, also I guess it wont be problem to take same roms from X and make them avaible for S.
Definetly not something what should affect your decision about what phone to buy. Choose which u like more, the development of roms will be good for both.
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i also can't wait for s-off. the htc dev method isn't a choice for me.
I'm disappointed in the developers which decide blind for the one x. Sure it is the Flagship, but with years old manufacturing technique. nobody can say that a comparable 40nm manufactured cpu saves more energy that a 28nm manufactured one. faster sure, but a pockedheater^^
only one good dev for a rom and one for the kernel is enought for us. I love to flash costum roms, best two times a week^^ i miss it.
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i also can't wait for s-off. the htc dev method isn't a choice for me.
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Just curious, why is HTC Dev not a choice for you?

Trading my HOXL for Nexus

To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Android phones are hard to predict.
6 Months is half a product cycle of an iPhone.
The HTC One X(L) is a fantastic device. We don't even have Kernel Source yet and look at the development we've seen so far. Sit tight.
I think ISIS will be a huge fail and Google Wallet will be allowed eventually.
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.
Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.
kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
karan1203 said:
I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
bongd said:
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.
mikelebz said:
Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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[Q] Upgrade this month? What to do

I have an upgrade this month on AT&T. Its actually on my granpas phone number because we added him to ours and I could use that upgrade.
What should I do? I almost thought about getting the s3 just to try out and see what its like, but I just hate the look of it and haven't had good service with samsung before.
Also thought about getting iphone 5. I know a good bit about iPhones like jailbreaking and all that good stuff. But I am really an android guy. I could get it for my girlfriend which currently has iphone 4 and sell her iphone 4 possibly.
I would be the one jailbreaking it and all the fun stuff with it lol.
Or should I just wait? Is anything good coming out soon?
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I have an upgrade this month on AT&T. Its actually on my granpas phone number because we added him to ours and I could use that upgrade.
What should I do? I almost thought about getting the s3 just to try out and see what its like, but I just hate the look of it and haven't had good service with samsung before.
Also thought about getting iphone 5. I know a good bit about iPhones like jailbreaking and all that good stuff. But I am really an android guy. I could get it for my girlfriend which currently has iphone 4 and sell her iphone 4 possibly.
I would be the one jailbreaking it and all the fun stuff with it lol.
Or should I just wait? Is anything good coming out soon?
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HTC One X+ is coming out (One X with a quad core, 2100mAh battery, 64GB storage). That would be a good choice.
Galaxy Note 2 is supposedly coming to AT&T if you like big displays. (Quad core, 2GB of Ram, sd slot)
And then there is a lot of Nexus rumors flying about.
Personally, I would wait and get one of those.
Have you seen the iPhone 5 in person? Its pretty underwhelming. Disappointing, really. It looks almost exactly like the iPhone 4. Just the screen is 1/2 inch longer in portrait orientation, which makes it 16:9 in landscape (for watching HD television programs). It also gives it a goofy long "candy bar" shape compared to most every other smartphone out there. Slightly faster CPU, a bit thinner, and aluminum back (instead of glass). But otherwise its the same old same old. It really brings nothing new to the series. Also, the screen is still so small, it seems like a joke now that I'm accustomed to the One X.
GS3 is not a bad phone, and great dev activity. I might consider it. But we're already a few month along into that phone's cycle. So I wouldn't be surprised if an incremental update is not released on AT&T. Or the Note 2 may be an option for you.
I might consider the One X+, given its an incremental improvement on an already stellar phone. And its coming out on AT&T with 64 GB of storage. But given the bootloader unlock ituation on 2.20, I might wait and see how locked down any future HTC device on AT&T is before a purchase. Or wait for a dev community root/unlock solution before buying.
I haven't seen Iphone 5 in person. I have heard rumors bout the one x. Didn't know it would be worth the upgrade. It would have a lot of the same roms as this wouldn't it? Any info on a date on it?
NeverToLate said:
I haven't seen Iphone 5 in person. I have heard rumors bout the one x. Didn't know it would be worth the upgrade. It would have a lot of the same roms as this wouldn't it? Any info on a date on it?
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The One X+ would be worth the upgrade (not the One X which has been out for 4 months now). It should be shipping this month.
And no it will have different ROMs and you will not be able to use the ROMs for the current AT&T version. Different chipset. You will brick your phone.
Butters619 said:
The One X+ would be worth the upgrade (not the One X which has been out for 4 months now). It should be shipping this month.
And no it will have different ROMs and you will not be able to use the ROMs for the current AT&T version. Different chipset. You will brick your phone.
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Alright. I will keep a lookout on it and see what happens with it. There isn't any physical changes as far as looks are there. Cause I like this phone like it is
NeverToLate said:
Alright. I will keep a lookout on it and see what happens with it. There isn't any physical changes as far as looks are there. Cause I like this phone like it is
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Nope. Looks the same except there will not be a white version.
Butters619 said:
Nope. Looks the same except there will not be a white version.
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Man that sucks. The white version is my favorite. Looks better than grey to me.
Looked up some pics of the phone and not a big fan of that red ring on the back camera. Everything else can be covered with a case. But that is just tacky to me lol.
Windows phones are useless. Apple devices make no sense whatsoever. Android is so much easier.
Ever since growing up with Macintosh computers in 80s and 90s and the desire to napalm the original iMac my mother purchased. I find Apple appalling in every way fathomable.
I would atleast wait to see how the Jellybean rom is for the hoxl.
NeverToLate said:
Looked up some pics of the phone and not a big fan of that red ring on the back camera. Everything else can be covered with a case. But that is just tacky to me lol.
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Red is pretty signature for Verizon Droid phones. I'm guessing it will be removed on the AT&T version.
I would wait. There are a lot of phones rumored to come. Like the Samsung s3 but with a smaller screen, HTC one x+, lumia 920(with amazing camera), a new nexus, and the note 2, as well as LG G phone with the new built in LCD screen. A lot of choices.
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Red is pretty signature for Verizon Droid phones. I'm guessing it will be removed on the AT&T version.
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Lets hope so
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Lets hope so
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That red looks tacky. Agreed.
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The Mini is dead, long live the Mini....

The Mini is dead, long live the Mini....
Let's face it. The mini is dead in the water, literally months after launch, there is nothing happening. Full respect is due to the MagioRom team, and tr1gg3r84 in particular for all the great work producing a great rom. But without support from the HTCDEV (ha) team, no RUU, no updates for unlocked phones, no focus.
It really had the potential to be a great phone, but HTC sunk the ship before it sailed. 16GB (10 you can use) and 1GB RAM. I formatted it fully yesterday, 2 nandroid backups, 1 GB of music, 1.8 GB of video and Titanium Backups = 2GB free. Pathetic.
AND we won't be getting anything other than the launch JB 4.2.2 build 1.22 on an unlocked phone, as formally stated by HTC. Yes, we will help you unlock, but then you're f#@ked. Just buy a ONE.
Not only have HTC ignored and abandoned the mini, so have the dev community on xda (we had some promising interest at first by some good senior devs, but interest has been lost) and cm - I've stayed tuned as asked to do so by Cyanogen:
September 06, 2013
HTC One Mini
Adding to our ever growing device list, Negri Electronics stepped up to help out yet again, this time sending us the One Mini. Stay tuned for ‘codename: m4′ builds to be released. The Negri team has been great to work with and we appreciate their support of CM and the community.
Errrrrr......hellooooooo? Am i tuned to the wrong station?
I don't want a sense/bloated rom. I mean, come on, 1GB zips? I don't have room on my bloody phone to hold the zip AND a backup prior to flashing.
I'm going back to Samsung - s#it build quality, but at least you can mod the thing.
It breaks my heart, but I've had enough of getting excited when I get a xda notification on a dev thread thinking it might, just might, be something new. But, just like Santa, you learn that he's not coming.
Believe me, this IS NOT a rant directed at xda, the devs, and the fantastic work they do, I'm ranting out of frustration - HTC, you nearly had a convert.
See ya.
N.
I kind of agree with this ... this phone does have potential, but with no community to back it up it just kind of flops. I got mine yesterday and I can't even root it for god sakes.
I might use it for a bit till the Sony Xperia Z1f comes out ... HTC really dropped the ball on this one ...
I say give it time. Good things come to those that wait. I just got my HTC One Mini yesterday and out the box it's a really great phone, but yeah I'm a flash-a-holic and coming from the Galaxy S1 with its HUGE dev section here on XDA, it makes me long for something to flash to my new phone..
Least we still have root available to us. And for me storage isn't a big problem with having an unlimited internet contract, cloud storage, and USB OTG which can be used to backup your nandroids or anything else apart from apps. This is still a new phone and I'd like to think its still to early to call it, maybe I'm wrong, I hope not..
I find most development leans towards flag ship models as more people have them, but I dislike these giants, so do others, and others may soon join the mini following giving a bigger fan base for developers to take notice of..
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I say give it time. Good things come to those that wait. I just got my HTC One Mini yesterday and out the box it's a really great phone, but yeah I'm a flash-a-holic and coming from the Galaxy S1 with its HUGE dev section here on XDA, it makes me long for something to flash to my new phone..
Least we still have root available to us. And for me storage isn't a big problem with having an unlimited internet contract, cloud storage, and USB OTG which can be used to backup your nandroids or anything else apart from apps. This is still a new phone and I'd like to think its still to early to call it, maybe I'm wrong, I hope not..
I find most development leans towards flag ship models as more people have them, but I dislike these giants, so do others, and others may soon join the mini following giving a bigger fan base for developers to take notice of..
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No ... I can't root my HTC One Mini 601s version
leungalv said:
No ... I can't root my HTC One Mini 601s version
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Hmmm I have noticed some people having problems here. Were you able to unlock bootloader? And what methods did you try? I have the 601n version with latest UK ota update, I haven't tried yet as I'm still burning my phone in. Fingers crossed.
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Hmmm I have noticed some people having problems here. Were you able to unlock bootloader? And what methods did you try? I have the 601n version with latest UK ota update, I haven't tried yet as I'm still burning my phone in. Fingers crossed.
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No I haven't tried unlocking bootloader ... I tried installing TWRP Recovery to no avail. I tried using OneClickRoot for the rooting. What should I use to unlock the bootloader? Thanks.
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AND we won't be getting anything other than the launch JB 4.2.2 build 1.22 on an unlocked phone, as formally stated by HTC.
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Why do you say that? We've already had an OTA update since launch (on 1.32.401.2 with UK unlocked here) and all the announcements so far have indicated that 4.3 is coming for the mini after the One. Did I miss another fornal announcement to the contrary?
Edit: sorry, I misundertood you, I guess you're referring to unlocked bootloader.
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No I haven't tried unlocking bootloader ... I tried installing TWRP Recovery to no avail. I tried using OneClickRoot for the rooting. What should I use to unlock the bootloader? Thanks.
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You do it at htcdev.com and select other in handset, but I haven't tried out yet..
Pretty sure you need this for TWRP recovery.
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You do it at htcdev.com and select other in handset, but I haven't tried out yet..
Pretty sure you need this for TWRP recovery.
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Awesome ... that worked after unlocking the bootloader, I installed TWRP Recovery successfully. Thanks!
EDIT: rooted the phone through TWRP recovery.
So I had to do this: unlock bootloader via HTCDev as you advised -> install TWRP via fastboot -> root via TWRP yay
Yeah I do agree with the lack if updates/ruu that are available for people. But I have a update coming for 4.2.2 and it's pretty smooth fast and great battery life. Plus alot of features. Also I'm working with a kernel dev who might be able to help me bring a 4.3 sense 5.5 to mini ported from the M7. Maybe in time Cm roms but that's till a source is available. But for now gotta make do with what's available if not try and make something.
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Pretty much. It's a great phone, but unfortunately HTC cut too much out and the development for it is almost dead. I kind of wish I waited to upgrade my phone because now I can get a Moto X or a HTC One for $100 which is the same price I paid for the One Mini.
I'm hoping h8drift gets Cm 10.2 working and stable on the Mini, but he hasn't posted anything in almost a month.
Apparently the Mini is supposed to get the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5 so at least that's something.
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Pretty much. It's a great phone, but unfortunately HTC cut too much out and the development for it is almost dead. I kind of wish I waited to upgrade my phone because now I can get a Moto X or a HTC One for $100 which is the same price I paid for the One Mini.
I'm hoping h8drift gets Cm 10.2 working and stable on the Mini, but he hasn't posted anything in almost a month.
Apparently the Mini is supposed to get the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5 so at least that's something.
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Yeah but HTC say a lot but don't do so wait and see. How long it takes them ha :sly:
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The sales about Mini is very very small and yes, this phone is pretty dead already because the majority of target customers are One S and they decided to stay with One S for one more year and wait for another 4.3" from HTC in 2014.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1531
You see our One S board is still quite active......
Speaking for the One S. One Mini was supposed to replace One S but ended up it can't. One S has even more advantages over One Mini.
1. One S got an even more slim, light weight and cool design over One Mini
2. One S is more harder and more protection without using case
3. One S(S4) the cpu/gpu/bus-bandwidth is more faster
4. One Mini got UltraPixel and good at low light but outdoor photo is outperformed by One S 's 8M sensor.
Personally, I'm an One S user and thinking to upgrade to One or One Mini because I love the idea of Zoe. I must admit that originally I prefer to get HTC One but there are just too many dead UltraPixel on HTC One while One Mini used more mature manufactured UltraPixel stocks and hardly hear about purple tint issue, this made me switch to notice One Mini.
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The sales about Mini is very very small and yes, this phone is pretty dead already because the majority of target customers are One S and they decided to stay with One S for one more year and wait for another 4.3" from HTC in 2014.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1531
You see our One S board is still quite active......
Speaking for the One S. One Mini was supposed to replace One S but ended up it can't. One S has even more advantages over One Mini.
1. One S got an even more slim, light weight and cool design over One Mini
2. One S is more harder and more protection without using case
3. One S(S4) the cpu/gpu/bus-bandwidth is more faster
4. One Mini got UltraPixel and good at low light but outdoor photo is outperformed by One S 's 8M sensor.
Personally, I'm an One S user and thinking to upgrade to One or One Mini because I love the idea of Zoe. I must admit that originally I prefer to get HTC One but there are just too many dead UltraPixel on HTC One while One Mini used more mature manufactured UltraPixel stocks and hardly hear about purple tint issue, this made me switch to notice One Mini.
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Very true ... I actually prefer the One S over the One Mini ... too bad I just gave the One S to my mom
leungalv said:
Very true ... I actually prefer the One S over the One Mini ... too bad I just gave the One S to my mom
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It's easy .... steal back the One S from your mom when she is sleeping and switch the One Mini for her. But I'm sure she will fxxk you up in the next morning. :laugh:
Have a little patience...
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It's easy .... steal back the One S from your mom when she is sleeping and switch the One Mini for her. But I'm sure she will fxxk you up in the next morning. :laugh:
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HAHAHA I could do that ... except I live 4 hours away from my parents!
Damn.... I have to replace my HTC Pyramid (still active developement) rather soon so I was looking for a new phone. Fell in love with the design of HTC's One Mini. However after now reading this thread I will prob. not update to the Mini.
Thank you :crying:... and I guess thank you
Despite all these drawbacks, the phone on its stock is still great. Also it doesnt cost much for a premium design

HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2

Bad news guys
HTC has announced that its 2012 flagships, the One X and One X+, won’t be receiving any updates past Android 4.2.2.
htc one x 1024x576 HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2
The decision has been met with considerable criticism on Twitter, and rightly so, especially in the case of the One X+, which has been left in the lurch only 14 months after launch. What makes matters worse is that neither device will be getting Android 4.3 either, a version of the OS that came well before either phone reached the usual 18-month support cycle extended to flagship devices. It’s a scenario reminiscent of what happened with the HTC Sensation, a flagship smartphone for which support was dropped after just one major update.
HTC issued the following statement:
We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences.
The decision to not update the One X series is also disappointing when one considers how HTC has been pretty great at updating its latest flagship, the HTC One, to newer versions of Android, with the KitKat update hitting unlocked models in the U.S. within a month after Google released the update for Nexus devices. Hopefully, it’s the same level of support HTC will extend to future devices as well, though even it does, One X and One X+ owners likely won’t be putting their faith in the company when they’re due for a smartphone upgrade in a few months.
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Was this entire post all your own original writing? It looks like it came from a news site, if it did you should probably quote the source.
I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised about this news though. It's been a pretty well established fact that 4.2.2 was going to be the last official update this device would receive. And while I don't agree with HTC's update policy and schedule it does make total sense considering this device is now 20 months old. I probably won't buy another HTC device purely because of their inability to update their devices in a timely fashion (the 4.2.2 update came something like ten months after it was released by Android).
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To be honest I ain't that worried about the device being at the end if life.... Cause the sprint evo 4g lte is getting 4.3 sense 5 and we can port from that... But ontop of that in the ElementalX thread Zarboz said he's gonna take care of us with a 4.3, and 4.4 sense kernel.
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I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
They gave some cockamamie reason why the Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
On the other hand, a much newer yet weaker device was receiving further updates.
A year later, that device was no longer receiving updates.
I am seeing a trend.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!
Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Wow, you guys can really be delusional at times. I mean... seriously.
That was uncalled for.
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TeK9samurai said:
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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I have to agree. If I wanted a good experience without needing updates I would get a sony phone. My next phone will probably be a samsung since they're so popular and have good dev support.
Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
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Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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Yeah, but the post I responded to by musician_it didn't tell you anything you didn't already know, did it (or anybody else here for that matter)?
Just my opinion, the Nexus devices have been pretty underwhelming (hardware-wise) for several iterations now. HTC simply has the best hardware around, and has for years. Its simply a shame they can't provide better long-term support on the software side.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/cffjjiq
"actively exploring" =/= won't do
Might not happen given their track record, but it's nice to think about on this Monday night.
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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Its different hardware, so therefore different software. That is all he is saying. Lots of people get confused that the "international" One X (Tegra3) has so-and-so update, so why don't we (Snapdragon One X/XL), thinking its the same phone, when its not.
Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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grt idea.... someone with good skills should do it......

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