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[Q] Possible battery drain when off

I really don't know if this is possible or not.... but I might need to get some new corduroys after a case of the brown adrenalin with my new sensation.
Got it Friday as could see progress on the rooting and sure enough Revolution came up with the goods same day. Rooted it Saturday.
Fully charged it, switched it off and went back to the HD2 - flip case and car kit arriving today. Really don't wanna damage my new boy toy by pocketing it with car keys etc.
Stone me though I thought I bricked it. Wouldn't switch on this morning - just a dark flicker of the screen. Sweat pouring off my forehead. Never bricked a device and flashed my HD2 & TP2 a million times and my £450 unlocked handset is 3 days old and dead..
Long and the short of it is plugged in the charger again and a few minutes later it powers up - 3% battery.
Is it possible it could drain switched off? Or should I blame the kids for messing with it and deduct my dry cleaning bill from their pocket-money?

After I rooted, I had to do a battery pull until I was able to turn my phone on again, although this doesn't really replicate what problem you had...
The battery does not drain if the phone is turned off.
Question is, was it definitely turned off?
Even if it wasn't, there's no way a full charge is going to drain overnight... Unless you had a Satnav running...
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You're right - it SHOULDN'T... I'd rebooted no problems several times after the rooting. Some OTA update came over and didn't install successfully though.
It'd be very odd (and a warranty issue, get ready to go into rooting reverse) but for now I'm inclined to just blame the kids. Unless anyone else has has similar experiences.
I guess time with it will tell.

EDIT: Apparently it's a known issue and has been fixed with the new CWM update! See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Ah ha, looks like it's not just me!
This just happened to me today and I had to change my pants because I thought I bricked it. I rooted it and installed InsertCoin no problems!
Today, as it jumped off my WiFi and onto the mobile network it got stuck on "Disconnecting from Morsolo's WiFi" and just sorta froze there (the phone still worked, but it wouldn't fully disconnect from WiFi, so I got no mobile data).
I turned the phone off via normal methods (40% Battery)... Then it wouldn't turn back on. The phone was a little bit hot at this point, but it does heat up so I thought nothing of it.
For a good 30 minutes, nothing happened. All that I could see happening when I attempted to turn the phone on was, the screen backlight would turn on, fade off, turn on, fade off. No boot, no recovery, nothing.
I tried charging it and it would show the indicator for 2 seconds and stop charging (but this is a known issue, apparently it continues to charge regardless).
After numerous times pulling the battery, trying to start, charging, battery, start... I finally managed to get it to boot and it said the battery was at 3%... After the phone was STONE COLD DEAD for a good 30 minutes to 1 hour.
...I just got home (with a dead battery, of course) and now that I've plugged it in again, it wont boot, again.
I think we've discovered an issue.

EDIT: Good man. Thanks for the update. Better get onto that right away.
Yup.. that's the same experience... except I'm still on stock rom with tweaks.
What do you reckon - flash back to stock and see if it still happens? Really don't want it turning into permanent paperweight with an iffy bootloader for someone at warranty to find with their JTAG.
Morsolo said:
Ah ha, looks like it's not just me!
This just happened to me today and I had to change my pants because I thought I bricked it. I rooted it and installed InsertCoin no problems!
Today, as it jumped off my WiFi and onto the mobile network it got stuck on "Disconnecting from Morsolo's WiFi" and just sorta froze there (the phone still worked, but it wouldn't fully disconnect from WiFi, so I got no mobile data).
I turned the phone off via normal methods (40% Battery)... Then it wouldn't turn back on. The phone was a little bit hot at this point, but it does heat up so I thought nothing of it.
For a good 30 minutes, nothing happened. All that I could see happening when I attempted to turn the phone on was, the screen backlight would turn on, fade off, turn on, fade off. No boot, no recovery, nothing.
I tried charging it and it would show the indicator for 2 seconds and stop charging (but this is a known issue, apparently it continues to charge regardless).
After numerous times pulling the battery, trying to start, charging, battery, start... I finally managed to get it to boot and it said the battery was at 3%... After the phone was STONE COLD DEAD for a good 30 minutes to 1 hour.
...I just got home (with a dead battery, of course) and now that I've plugged it in again, it wont boot, again.
I think we've discovered an issue.
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[Q] Battery died one day and phone seems to have died with it. WTF!?!

I was away from home for 2 days and forgot my charger. Naturally the battery died.
I came home and charged the phone (plugged in the USB cable), left it for an hour or so and tried to turn it on. I got a "spinning" black and white wheel (which is actually frozen). Next comes the grey image of an empty battery which doesnt show charging (filling with green) even when the phone is plugged in. The home, back, etc. etc. buttons flash white for a moment and the phone turns off. Try again, same thing.
I thought maybe the USB wast connecting or charging so i took the battery out and charged it on an external charger which shows that it is full. Put it in, same thing.
Tried hard reset but cant complete it because samsung logo screen doesnt come on, only "empty battery" image.
Phone doesnt show up on my mac. etc. etc.
I am out of ideas...
btw no kind of water contact or dropping.
I really hope someone has another suggestion or can point me in the right direction.
Thanks for reading.

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Try going to att and use a charged battery there. Your battery may just be dead from over discharging.

RUNNERX said:
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Try going to att and use a charged battery there. Your battery may just be dead from over discharging.
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thanks. i plugged it in and will let it sit for a while. i did try to turn it on as soon as i plugged it in and still saw the battery which didnt appear to be charging, but i know from previous experiance that when a phone is really dead the battery wont start it immediately even when plugged in.
thanks for the advice. my fingers are crossed
edit: ok. i'll try that also. if i can get away with just replacing the battery thats fine

this happened to me several times as well. My fix was easy.
Plug it in and forget about it for an hour. Unplug it, power it up, plug back in as soon as you see it start to boot. Should boot and charge.
I don't know why, but when its DEAD dead DEAD, it won't boot while its plugged in, nor will it show charging.
I hope that helps!

hopeful...
madamimadam said:
this happened to me several times as well. My fix was easy.
Plug it in and forget about it for an hour. Unplug it, power it up, plug back in as soon as you see it start to boot. Should boot and charge.
I don't know why, but when its DEAD dead DEAD, it won't boot while its plugged in, nor will it show charging.
I hope that helps!
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Thank you for the advice. I am happy to know someones dealt with this before and I am not the only one.
I just want to be sure. When you say that it starts to boot up, do you mean the samsung logo or the b/w wheel with empty (grey) battery image?
I tried to plug in the USB when the empty batt. was showing but it didnt seem to respond. Also I am wondering, when it finally connects do you still just let it charge or do you fully boot it up? Also does the battery show that it was keeping a charge from the first hour you left idle or does it only start to keep the charge after youve done this process?
Sorry for all the questions. This is just a bit for me....
update: OMG! just plugged it and instead of an empty batt. it was 90% green! phone still shut off again but i am very hopeful something is going on. I am going to keep messing around
update2: thank you so so much. This finally worked. saved me a considerable amount of money and untold grief. Basically I followed your directions in hyper mode. Power on, USB (in/out/in/out/in/out), phone shuts off, immediately power on again, etc., etc., until it worked.
Thank you.

FYI, a proper charger (instead of a PC's USB port) will cause the device to go into a higher-current charging mode that MIGHT have behaved better.

You can only charge your phone when its off on stock. Being in a rom it will reboot hence your frozen spinner and grey battery. Try it now that your battery is fully charged a d it will just reboot.
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just had the same problem tonight, but when I pulled out the battery it had a fried electronics smell in the battery

Same thing happened to me driving home from Thanksgiving break. I've come to the conclusion that if you flash a non Samsung from then you have to have the infuse on to charge. Even with a dead battery I managed to get the infuse on, then immediately shut the screen off for about 30 sec before proceeding to quickly turn setcpu into power save mode before shutting screen off and leaving it off for a few hours. Should veeerryyy slowly but surely charge (stupid samsung ..... takes forever to charge and there are times when the battery goes down in heavy CPU apps or when on 4g, I noe its safer that way but its not like I'm going to have that phone for the next 5 years)
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So glad I found this. My wife's "Infused" Infuse was "acting weird" according to her. Said there was a weird "DOS" like screen for a second, then the dead/grey battery logo. Take bat out and put back in. Nothing. Plug in and start up and it either goes from the Samsung logo to off, and repeat that, or show the Dead/Grey battery thing again. Well, tried the turn on while unplugged, and immediately plug in, and it started up. Even said the batt was 96% charged! Really confusing. So are there any other ROMs usable on this thing? Infused is OK, but man, just not nearly as good as my N1 running CM7.
Thanx again for the tip!

jwrezz said:
So glad I found this. My wife's "Infused" Infuse was "acting weird" according to her. Said there was a weird "DOS" like screen for a second, then the dead/grey battery logo. Take bat out and put back in. Nothing. Plug in and start up and it either goes from the Samsung logo to off, and repeat that, or show the Dead/Grey battery thing again. Well, tried the turn on while unplugged, and immediately plug in, and it started up. Even said the batt was 96% charged! Really confusing. So are there any other ROMs usable on this thing? Infused is OK, but man, just not nearly as good as my N1 running CM7.
Thanx again for the tip!
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everything in development is.... obviously. Also, do make sure your read everything first lol it can really help you and other people at the end.

I got the infuse for me and the wife in early December. After the initial charge she used hers for about a day and half then tried to charge it.
Nada.
Tried different USB cables, swapped batteries. Turned out the USB port died. Talk about a PIA!!!
Best buy swapped it out no problem and let me keep all the stuff in the old box.

[Problem] HTC Inspire will not work at all HELP!!

Hey all, I just got through with this hurricane sandy business and now I find my phone not working at all. First off I'd like to say that there is no water damage to this phone and it is NOT rooted. The problem is that it just won't turn on at all, and won't charge when I try to charge the device. The day before I charged the phone and it worked fine. I can provide more details if needed but I need to find a solution to this.

Did it run down on battery completely before it did this? You might need to charge it for a bit before it turns on. Also, see if you can get your hands on a spare battery to see if it's the battery's problem. I would also try removing the battery and putting it back just to make sure it wasn't jostled loose.

bananagranola said:
Did it run down on battery completely before it did this? You might need to charge it for a bit before it turns on. Also, see if you can get your hands on a spare battery to see if it's the battery's problem. I would also try removing the battery and putting it back just to make sure it wasn't jostled loose.
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Two days ago I completely let the battery drain on its own because it was draining faster than usual and I was using it very minimally due to the lack of phone signal during the power outage. And yesterday I charged it until it was 100% in the morning and at night I charged it again until 100%. Before I went to bed, I turned off my phone and it was 90% and when I turned it on in the morning it was at 77% (which I thought was weird since the phone was not even on). Now the phone will not work at all. I took the battery out and everything. I even tried turning the phone on while trying to charge it (but it would not charge). The only feedback I got was that it vibrated when I tried turning it on this afternoon and after that was nothing. (it would either get stuck at the AT&T bootup part or I would get no display at all)

mpvsuperstar said:
Two days ago I completely let the battery drain on its own because it was draining faster than usual and I was using it very minimally due to the lack of phone signal during the power outage. And yesterday I charged it until it was 100% in the morning and at night I charged it again until 100%. Before I went to bed, I turned off my phone and it was 90% and when I turned it on in the morning it was at 77% (which I thought was weird since the phone was not even on). Now the phone will not work at all. I took the battery out and everything. I even tried turning the phone on while trying to charge it (but it would not charge). The only feedback I got was that it vibrated when I tried turning it on this afternoon and after that was nothing. (it would either get stuck at the AT&T bootup part or I would get no display at all)
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And nothing happened to it in between at all? That's very odd. The only thing I can think of to try is another battery.

Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks! Thread moved.
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bananagranola said:
And nothing happened to it in between at all? That's very odd. The only thing I can think of to try is another battery.
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Nothing I can think of. It was fully charged by 9PM the other night and shut off before I went to bed. Next morning the batter is nearly halfway drained for no apparent reason. I think I will get another battery to test.
Also I let the battery sit out of the phone for a few days now and the phone still does not work.

Niavaran
mpvsuperstar said:
Nothing I can think of. It was fully charged by 9PM the other night and shut off before I went to bed. Next morning the batter is nearly halfway drained for no apparent reason. I think I will get another battery to test.
Also I let the battery sit out of the phone for a few days now and the phone still does not work.
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Get a hold of a charged battery, then after 1 hour with no battery in the device, replace the battery remove the SD-Card and the SIM-Card, replace all covers. Reboot your PC and go to firewall tab in the control panel and turn of your firewalls, then reboot your PC, then using USB data cable not a charging cable.. with your device being OFF conect to a USB connection in the back of your PC, if it's a laptop use the one next to the intranet connection. Then wait about 1min. If nothing happwned, hold the volume down button then press and release the power button. if nothing happened, hold the volume up then press and release the power button. If nothing happened do the samething this time by holding both up and down volume buttons. If nothing happened with your device connected to the PC go to MY Computer tab right click on C>Properties then go to tools click on check disc tab check mark both options then restart your PC. Before windows tour OS starts, your PC will go through a self check. let it do its thing. it takes a couple of hours. then after its down check to see if it has seen your device. if not then do procedures above once again. GOOD LUCK.
PHP:

Okay so I finally got it to turn on but in order to charge it, the phone must be turned off for some reason. Also, the touch screen is not working, even after I did a hard reset and erased all my data. I'm not sure if it is a hardware issue or a software issue because the display is working fine.

lobig
mpvsuperstar said:
Okay so I finally got it to turn on but in order to charge it, the phone must be turned off for some reason. Also, the touch screen is not working, even after I did a hard reset and erased all my data. I'm not sure if it is a hardware issue or a software issue because the display is working fine.
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That same thing happened to a friend of mine. She took it to a technician tho and they sorted it out for her.

Hello every one, this just my first post here, but I have been follow the forum very very close since some days ago thanks to Mustaavalkosta and his new CyanogenMod Rom here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533007&page=283.
I am having a similar problem with my HTC Inspire, here is my story. I bought it like it a year ago, the first thing I do was to rooted with AAHK and install CyanoyenMod cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-ace. Everything works just fine till a couple of months ago. One night I just leave my Inspire and go to sleep, the next morning I wasn't able to turn on, not charging, not turn on. Was not the battery because my brother has another Inspire and I check with his battery. I just leave the phone without the battery and Sim and SD for a day and them come back again, but at next day the same occurs. I try all that time, vol down+power. voldown+volup, every convination but nothing works. So I decide to dissensambly my phone... in the process I broke the ribbon flex cable http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-HTC-Desire-HD-Inspire-4G-Camera-Socket-Keypad-Membrane-PBC-Ribbon-Flex-Cable-/320925341841?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item4ab8a41891 The phone was in parts on my table like a month till I was able to buy and recieve the ribbon (I live in Colombia). Finally the ribbon arrives 3 days ago, so I assembled the phone again and...magic! the phone turns on. My next step was install the Mustaavalkosta Rom that I mentioned before.... but, yesterday, my phone was dead again. So a try all steps again, put out the battery, Sim and Sd... and again try all the combinations of buttons, but nothing works... So I do it again: dissensably again my phone: Only disconnecting the display doesn't works... I have to disconect the display and the ribbon cable, assembled again and just turn on again.... Now I am waiting for the next black out...
I know is a weird behavior, but may be some one can point me in some direction to fix it.. I am not a developer or anything like that, but I like to investigate and solve problems... any help will be wonderful.
Cheers!
PD: I dont have any apps installed, just trying the Rom as it is.
PD: The next time it happens I will try the niavaran advises.

[Q] Rooted 4.1.1 GS3 Possible Sudden Death Syndrome?

Hello All!
Three days ago I updated my GS3 to JB 4.1.1. I also ODIN'd TWRP onto my phone as a recovery and loaded SuperSU with an unlocked bootloader onto my phone along with BusyBox. I fell in love with my phone again as JB ran smoothly and I was even able to use Wallet Installer to get Google Wallet onto my phone. However, tonight, my phone seemed to experience a case of Sudden Death Syndrome. A common issue found by googling why my phone's failure to respond to boot commands and power commands.
It will not respond to attempts to boot into ODIN mode, my TWRP recovery and the only sign of life on my phone is a solid red LCD that lights up only if I remove the battery and leave the device plugged into a wall charger. Once I try to reinsert the battery, however, the LCD goes away and the phone once again turns into a coffee coaster. It's taking a lot of strength not to throw it against the wall. (I picked the worst week to quit smoking.)
I don't believe I hardbricked the device because three hours ago at the time of this post, I went to sleep and the phone was working and I was able to send and receive messages. I believe that rooting my phone actually made it even more stable than normal. I just can't believe my phone could just suddenly die. Could it be another case of Sudden Death Syndrome? (Corrupted NAND?) I bought this phone in August and many cases of SDS for the GSIII seem to occur within 150-200 days of activation, which would put me in that window. If I answered my own questions, please feel free to tell me. I'm just trying to explore all options as an exasperated user dealing with what seems frustration after frustration and the one release I have from that stress just **** a brick.
I am covered by Asurion Insurance (and if the crack on my screen will not be enough I plan on running it over with my car for good measure to get my money's worth) but I really do not want to have to file an insurance claim unless it is absolutely necessary.

Phone died just last night 12/29/12. The battery was running down, then beeped once like a warning to charge it. Plugged into the charger and no light whatsoever! The battery icon would come on for a second and then nothing. Left it on the charger over night. Nothing. No red charging light, no boot. Pulled the battery and re-plugged into charger. Same charging icon on screen but nothing else. Tried every combination of removing battery, sim card, memory card, and plugging it in to the charger and still won't boot. Tried a different charger and also my laptop. Nothing. The S3 is a USA Verizon variant. 16gb. Black. I guess it's off to Verizon this morning to get a new phone. Phone is only 45 days old!!!

You could try leaving it on the charger for a couple hours then booting into recovery and reflashing your rom. I've seen a couple instances reported on xda where the battery simply just gave up below 23% and refused to turn back on.
Edit: example, not even a couple weeks old...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056539
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If it is a case of "sds" Samsung will replace the board for free.

Ryno77 said:
If it is a case of "sds" Samsung will replace the board for free.
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Only reports of SDS in the 150-200 day time frame that I saw was with the International Version and it is completely different motherboard.

What do you kids do to your phone? How old are you? I'm going to start a survey. Age please?
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Update: Brought the S3 into Verizon. They pulled the battery (Like I did a few times!) and somehow got it working again!! FM ! Phone reboots and turns off and then back on. BUT..... if you turn it completely OFF and plug it in to charge then the same as I mentioned happens again. STRANGE. The only way to get it to reboot is to pull the battery and keep it out for about 30 seconds. Put the battery back in and it'll reboot again!!!! Is it me or is this a strange quirk???? The previous times I pulled the battery it was out then back in. This time I took it out, waited 30 seconds and VOILA! It works. Thought you might like an update. Verizon S3 bought on 11/17/12. Rooted and not oc/uc'd. Using Clean Rom 5.5.1
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Only reports of SDS in the 150-200 day time frame that I saw was with the International Version and it is completely different motherboard.
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That's good news..thanks for the correction.

Did my S3 brick itself?

Looking for any help or guidance here. I searched the forums and have found limited info fitting my situation.
My S3 is rooted running Jelly Beans Build 15, today I was sitting here playing a game the phone was in use for a while so it was warm to the touch as it can normally become... mid game there was a slight flicker of the screen and it DIED.
Since then I can not get any power back. I pulled the battery, and tried to power up I get a vibe then nothing happens. I've tried to reboot into DL or recovery all it will do is vibe then nothing happens.
I plugged it into the charger and it will vibe, the LED doesn't come on, and the battery icon on the screen will flash on and off the screen, each time it appears there is a short vibe.. with all that the phone won't boot.
I've had it about a year. SO did it just sh!t the bed on it's own??

JFrawls said:
Looking for any help or guidance here. I searched the forums and have found limited info fitting my situation.
My S3 is rooted running Jelly Beans Build 15, today I was sitting here playing a game the phone was in use for a while so it was warm to the touch as it can normally become... mid game there was a slight flicker of the screen and it DIED.
Since then I can not get any power back. I pulled the battery, and tried to power up I get a vibe then nothing happens. I've tried to reboot into DL or recovery all it will do is vibe then nothing happens.
I plugged it into the charger and it will vibe, the LED doesn't come on, and the battery icon on the screen will flash on and off the screen, each time it appears there is a short vibe.. with all that the phone won't boot.
I've had it about a year. SO did it just sh!t the bed on it's own??
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My first S3 did almost the same thing one day. My wife and I both got them on launch day and mine always seemed to run out of battery a bit faster than hers. One day, it got really warm in my pocket and the battery started draining out of control, it dropped 10% in a few minutes and just kept going until it was dead. Plugging it into USB to charge, it vibrated, I got the big battery icon on the screen, then reboot, vibe, icon, over and over again. I had to exchange it with Verizon.

JFrawls said:
Looking for any help or guidance here. I searched the forums and have found limited info fitting my situation.
My S3 is rooted running Jelly Beans Build 15, today I was sitting here playing a game the phone was in use for a while so it was warm to the touch as it can normally become... mid game there was a slight flicker of the screen and it DIED.
Since then I can not get any power back. I pulled the battery, and tried to power up I get a vibe then nothing happens. I've tried to reboot into DL or recovery all it will do is vibe then nothing happens.
I plugged it into the charger and it will vibe, the LED doesn't come on, and the battery icon on the screen will flash on and off the screen, each time it appears there is a short vibe.. with all that the phone won't boot.
I've had it about a year. SO did it just sh!t the bed on it's own??
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Any chance you could get your hands on a different battery to try? I was in class once playing some dumb mini putt game some guys played next to me, and my phone just completely shut off. I couldn't get it to turn back on and at the time it turned off I had ~half battery. I got back to my room and put a different battery in it and it worked fine. I charged the battery that wouldn't work and it now works fine again. Not really sure what the problem is though...
But yeah. Find another battery to use to get it to boot back up

So the phone is alive and working. It seems there may have been an issue with the battery level and a bad reading. When the phone died it read 20%, I hooked it up to a usb power cable on my pc and work and it didn't work.
When I got home I plugged it into the OEM charger and it was showing the battery was essentially dead and charged the phone back up...
That's all that happened... strange but true

JFrawls said:
So the phone is alive and working. It seems there may have been an issue with the battery level and a bad reading. When the phone died it read 20%, I hooked it up to a usb power cable on my pc and work and it didn't work.
When I got home I plugged it into the OEM charger and it was showing the battery was essentially dead and charged the phone back up...
That's all that happened... strange but true
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Then it didn;t brick itself..... it had help.

I think you have the same problem I did. When my phone completely dies and I plug it to the charger the battery charging icon goes on and off or if I get lucky stays on and charges it. But I put the same battery o. Another phone it charged instantly. I got a replacement from verizon.
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