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[Q] Possible battery drain when off

I really don't know if this is possible or not.... but I might need to get some new corduroys after a case of the brown adrenalin with my new sensation.
Got it Friday as could see progress on the rooting and sure enough Revolution came up with the goods same day. Rooted it Saturday.
Fully charged it, switched it off and went back to the HD2 - flip case and car kit arriving today. Really don't wanna damage my new boy toy by pocketing it with car keys etc.
Stone me though I thought I bricked it. Wouldn't switch on this morning - just a dark flicker of the screen. Sweat pouring off my forehead. Never bricked a device and flashed my HD2 & TP2 a million times and my £450 unlocked handset is 3 days old and dead..
Long and the short of it is plugged in the charger again and a few minutes later it powers up - 3% battery.
Is it possible it could drain switched off? Or should I blame the kids for messing with it and deduct my dry cleaning bill from their pocket-money?

After I rooted, I had to do a battery pull until I was able to turn my phone on again, although this doesn't really replicate what problem you had...
The battery does not drain if the phone is turned off.
Question is, was it definitely turned off?
Even if it wasn't, there's no way a full charge is going to drain overnight... Unless you had a Satnav running...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App

You're right - it SHOULDN'T... I'd rebooted no problems several times after the rooting. Some OTA update came over and didn't install successfully though.
It'd be very odd (and a warranty issue, get ready to go into rooting reverse) but for now I'm inclined to just blame the kids. Unless anyone else has has similar experiences.
I guess time with it will tell.

EDIT: Apparently it's a known issue and has been fixed with the new CWM update! See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Ah ha, looks like it's not just me!
This just happened to me today and I had to change my pants because I thought I bricked it. I rooted it and installed InsertCoin no problems!
Today, as it jumped off my WiFi and onto the mobile network it got stuck on "Disconnecting from Morsolo's WiFi" and just sorta froze there (the phone still worked, but it wouldn't fully disconnect from WiFi, so I got no mobile data).
I turned the phone off via normal methods (40% Battery)... Then it wouldn't turn back on. The phone was a little bit hot at this point, but it does heat up so I thought nothing of it.
For a good 30 minutes, nothing happened. All that I could see happening when I attempted to turn the phone on was, the screen backlight would turn on, fade off, turn on, fade off. No boot, no recovery, nothing.
I tried charging it and it would show the indicator for 2 seconds and stop charging (but this is a known issue, apparently it continues to charge regardless).
After numerous times pulling the battery, trying to start, charging, battery, start... I finally managed to get it to boot and it said the battery was at 3%... After the phone was STONE COLD DEAD for a good 30 minutes to 1 hour.
...I just got home (with a dead battery, of course) and now that I've plugged it in again, it wont boot, again.
I think we've discovered an issue.

EDIT: Good man. Thanks for the update. Better get onto that right away.
Yup.. that's the same experience... except I'm still on stock rom with tweaks.
What do you reckon - flash back to stock and see if it still happens? Really don't want it turning into permanent paperweight with an iffy bootloader for someone at warranty to find with their JTAG.
Morsolo said:
Ah ha, looks like it's not just me!
This just happened to me today and I had to change my pants because I thought I bricked it. I rooted it and installed InsertCoin no problems!
Today, as it jumped off my WiFi and onto the mobile network it got stuck on "Disconnecting from Morsolo's WiFi" and just sorta froze there (the phone still worked, but it wouldn't fully disconnect from WiFi, so I got no mobile data).
I turned the phone off via normal methods (40% Battery)... Then it wouldn't turn back on. The phone was a little bit hot at this point, but it does heat up so I thought nothing of it.
For a good 30 minutes, nothing happened. All that I could see happening when I attempted to turn the phone on was, the screen backlight would turn on, fade off, turn on, fade off. No boot, no recovery, nothing.
I tried charging it and it would show the indicator for 2 seconds and stop charging (but this is a known issue, apparently it continues to charge regardless).
After numerous times pulling the battery, trying to start, charging, battery, start... I finally managed to get it to boot and it said the battery was at 3%... After the phone was STONE COLD DEAD for a good 30 minutes to 1 hour.
...I just got home (with a dead battery, of course) and now that I've plugged it in again, it wont boot, again.
I think we've discovered an issue.
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Wont turn on?

Last night i turned off my phone because i didnt want anyone waking me up. Today i try to turn on my phone and it wont work at all?? Its rooted by revolutionary and i think that it may not be charging properly or something but ive tried 3 different chargers and it wont turn on?

When you plug it in does the orange light turn on? Leave it plugged in for an hour before you try to turn it on just to make sure the battery at least has some juice.

Yeah it does but after n hour it just turns off?? It was charged yesterday when i turned it off too

A7Xaguilar said:
Yeah it does but after n hour it just turns off?? It was charged yesterday when i turned it off too
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do u have warranty

Flash the Modaco 4.0.0.9 recovery

I had a similar issue a while ago when my phone turned itself off and wouldn't turn on no matter what I tried. See the thread for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263740
Luckily I got it to turn on after taking out the battery and letting it sit for a few minutes before putting it back. Not sure if that's the case with your phone but worth a try. Let us know how it goes.
By the way I haven't had this issue since then so I haven't sent it for replacement.

Mine has always done that since I rooted it. If I use the power button to power off, I have to remove the battery to get it to turn back on. It's only a minor inconvenience to me as I very rarely turn my phone off, but it is a peculiarity.

I think you guys just aren't giving the phone enough time until you reboot. Make sure fastboot is unchecked. Turn off the phone and wait a good 10 seconds after the screen goes black. You don't tap the power button, you kind of have to hold it for a second but there's no reason it shouldn't work. Make sure you're on the 4.0.0.9 recovery as the older one had some power issues. If after all that you believe you have a defective unit, contact t-mobile and exchange it!

I have personally had this issue and the fix was surprising...a Tmobile store rep helped me with a great solution....
First removing the battery is the key. According to him while HTC makes great phones his Sensation and the mt4gs both had an issue with the battery not seated perfectly. Note I had already tried to open and remove the battery with no success. But I did it in front of him by myself and it worked.
Then he sold me about the Anker Batteries - search Anker for the Win. He told me about them, because of their tighter specifications HxWxD which make them a really tight fit to get in and out but that forces them to contact the battery contacts.
Since then never had an issue and I get a really long charge and very little battery heat.

P6810 suddenly won't turn on

Anyone come across this? I put it on standby last night after reading a bit of my book on it, and it had around 50% power remaining. This morning, it was totally unresponsive; pressing the power button does nothing at all. I've charged it for 12 hours in the meantime.
I've done the following all with and without the power attached:
- Pressed and held power for 15 seconds through to a minute
- Pressed and held volume up with power to attempt to get into recovery for up to a minute
- Pressed and held volume down with powerfor up to a minute
- Pressed and held power while touching screen (read that one off another forum)
I guess potentially it could be on and in a crashed state and unresponsive to the power, so maybe in a weeks time when it runs out of juice, I'll be able to charge it and power it back up, but in the meantime, I'd welcome suggestions.
A few weeks ago I updated it to the official ICS build that was released, but did the update myself rather than using KIES, as KIES didn't even recognise my Tab's firmware original version. It's been absolutely fine before the update, and since. I only mention it because I've read about the Samsung build of ICS being prone to self bricking itself, but I couldn't determine what the symptoms of this vulnerability were.
Thanks for any help offered,
Will

did you try connecting USB cable and plugging it into your PC? did u get any activity? can ADB recognize your tab?

I think your tab just ran out of juice and the battery's protection circuit has kicked in. Try taking it to an electronic shop and plugging in different chargers preferably one with an output more than 2.1 amps to kickstart the charging. Plug it in and wait till the charging animation starts.
Sent from my GT-P6800 using xda premium

Had the same problem while on holidays. Once the battery goes below a certain level, you won't be able to charge it through USB any more. Instead you need to use the wall charger.
I think it's bad enough that the 7.7 doesn't have a micro USB port, but things like that are just stupid and Samsung made a big mistake here. It don't think it's the same with the newer tablets though. It's also not possible to just buy cables or chargers for this strange Samsung port, so when you forget your wall charger at home at some point you won't be able to use your tablet any more.
As long as you charge with the USB cable early enough, you can avoid it though.

A few months ago I experienced the same thing, the Tab just wouldn't turn on anymore.
I tried all there is without any luck.
Contacted amazon and they replaced it with a new one in less than 48 hours.
So far not Problems with the new device.

I have the P6800 and this morning I took it off charge. Put it into standby and only used it for about 20 mins then left in standby all day. It had about 95% remaining when I did so.
Picked it up this evening and the lower left area of the screen was warm and it would not switch on. Didn't think of the ADB idea but will try this next time but I had to reset it and when it powered on tonight after the reset, it was down to 15%. Within about 2 mins of checking stuff it was down to 3%.
Something is running when it is in standby but as I can't switch it on I can't check with BetterBatteryStats or CPUState to know what is wrong.
It does this every day. I am tempted to do a factory reset and reinstall only limited software.
Dave...

I see this thread is a little old but this has just happened to my P6810 too. A pity nobody reported back what the end result was.
My device had at least 95% battery last night but today I can't get it to respond at all, I've tried the wall charger and still nothing.
Anything else someone could suggest for me?
Edit. I tried getting anything from it connected to my PC but it couldn't find a device there. However I then tried it on the wall charger again and now get a blue battery icon, quite big, with a five step animation indicating that it is charging.
No idea how it went flat as the battery on this lasts a long time assuming the screen isn't on. When it boots properly I'll have a look at what the most recent apps I installed were as it has only done this once. Before this it has been perfect for the three weeks I've had it.

Cluey said:
I see this thread is a little old but this has just happened to my P6810 too. A pity nobody reported back what the end result was.
My device had at least 95% battery last night but today I can't get it to respond at all, I've tried the wall charger and still nothing.
Anything else someone could suggest for me?
Edit. I tried getting anything from it connected to my PC but it couldn't find a device there. However I then tried it on the wall charger again and now get a blue battery icon, quite big, with a five step animation indicating that it is charging.
No idea how it went flat as the battery on this lasts a long time assuming the screen isn't on. When it boots properly I'll have a look at what the most recent apps I installed were as it has only done this once. Before this it has been perfect for the three weeks I've had it.
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This is the infamous Sleep-Of-Death issue that is randomly experienced by myself and other users here, usually happens when WiFi bugs out due to weak signal

TeeeJaay said:
This is the infamous Sleep-Of-Death issue that is randomly experienced by myself and other users here, usually happens when WiFi bugs out due to weak signal
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hhmmm, interesting.
I was having trouble with wifi just before this happened. Both my GS2 and this have been claiming to connect to my wifi but aren't actually getting an IP address from it.
I can't remember if it was last night or the night before but I manually set an IP address, the signal strength is fine as my abode isn't very big.
After it has recharged I'll have a poke and see what I can find, thanks for the reply.

So my device seems to be working fine again. It had gone SO flat that the date and time were incorrect!
After I could power it on I had a look at Better Battery Stats and nothing looked wrong so I have no idea what happened. None of the apps I'd installed the day before it played up had long wakelocks and weren't running when I turned it off.
For reference they were:
My Tracks
MyTrails
Google Earth
AndSMB
I'd turned both of the GPS tracking devices off before I turned it off for the night.
It hasn't played up since but it hasn't been long so I'll see what happens.

Yeah, the sleep of death is incredibly annoying. Honestly, the GTab 7.7 is a **** device. Samsung made way too many mistakes and won't do anything to fix it.

A similar thing happens to me every once in awhile. The way i check to make sure everything alright is to see if it boots into download mode. I just leave it plugged in for a couple hours and it eventually comes back on.

someth1ng said:
Yeah, the sleep of death is incredibly annoying. Honestly, the GTab 7.7 is a **** device. Samsung made way too many mistakes and won't do anything to fix it.
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this is why my 7.7 is the last tablet/phone from Samsung i'll never trust them they are just bombarding the market with new devices and leaving the old ones to dust

^thats what I thought too but that gs4 is really tempting. I've heard worse about HTC in that regard anyways so that why I'm not going with the one.

Finally.. i bought Sony xperia Z.
I'll sell my galaxy tab 7.7. I.m very disappointed with samsung.
Sent From XPERIA Z

kishd said:
I think your tab just ran out of juice and the battery's protection circuit has kicked in. Try taking it to an electronic shop and plugging in different chargers preferably one with an output more than 2.1 amps to kickstart the charging. Plug it in and wait till the charging animation starts.
Sent from my GT-P6800 using xda premium
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Unbelievable! ... this trick still works ... thank you very much for you help ...

^^ yo, this 'trickle charge' trick did NOT work on my (long) dead P6800... any other suggestions??

Quite strange because my Samsung GT-P6800 tablet was fully charged, it went completely blank dark as if it was off. To my amazement, SMS keeps dropping and calls kept coming in. Yet it is still as blank as though the tab was off. I pressed the power button and the volume up bottom for it to reboot. It rebooted without the screen coming up. It has been blank for two days now. What could be the cause? And what possible solution can be given?

[Q] Blank screen when turning on phone?

Hi, I'll explain what happened.
My phone recently turned off (the screen kind of fizzled away to black) So I assumed this was the battery running out. When I got home I put it on charge and as I usually do waited a few minutes, then tried to turn on, to charge whilst on, the screen lit up the phone vibrated and the start up tune played, but only a lit up blank screen appeared?
I thought it might need more charging so I removed the batter to turn it off and put on charge again, whilst it was "charging" there was a flashing amber light for about 4 seconds at a time, this never turns steady or green, when just leaving on charge.
After numerous batter removals and replace the phone still does the same thing when turned on, but now with no sound, and still appears if the screen is on but blank and the four soft keys are lit, then if I press the power button or if I leave it, the screen goes off itself until I press the power key again (this same thing that would happen if going to lock screen). All of this happening with a now flashing green light?
I tried to access phone by USB cable and although laptop picks up fact something is plugged into USB, it doesn't appear on HTC sync or memory card doesn't appear.
When trying to hold in volume down and power on it's as if it's going to the right screen but still blank.
Stock rom on phone, S-OFF
Anyone have any ideas, without replacing phone?
Thanks

its seems like your phone has bricked.
1. First try this
2. if step 1 doesnt work, follow this
read step by step. good luck!

Have you tried a new battery? My phone went completely black while charging and it showed no signs of life, no charging light nothing. It was a new battery with about 60Percent charge when I put it on the charger. I noticed like you did, I tired to charge more but not even a light would come on. I happened to have another fully charged battery I kept as a spare. When I put the spare battery in, the phone sprang back to life! I threw the other battery away and have had zero problems since. So I suggest you try a new fully charged battery before you do any thing else. Strange thing was the battery I was using was fine the day before and even had the 60 percent charge when I put it on charger. I'm not sure how it happens but somehow the battery just died on charger. So give a new battery a try and see if it will also help you. If it doesn't, then likely it's failure of your device. But please do try because the exact same thing happened to me and the new fully charged battery fixed the problem! I'm hoping it will also fix it for you! Best of luck! You can get a good battery online for under 20 dollars. I recommend Anker extended battery. I really hope this works for you! Let us know.

badboy47 said:
its seems like your phone has bricked.
1. First try this
2. if step 1 doesnt work, follow this
read step by step. good luck!
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Thanks for the reply, I'll try these two and let you know what happens,
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So give a new battery a try and see if it will also help you. If it doesn't, then likely it's failure of your device. But please do try because the exact same thing happened to me and the new fully charged battery fixed the problem! I'm hoping it will also fix it for you! Best of luck! You can get a good battery online for under 20 dollars. I recommend Anker extended battery. I really hope this works for you! Let us know.
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I'll try this as a last resort and if not I'll get a new phone, cheers and I'll let you know what if anything works

So I get to the point where I have to ./brickdetect.sh and the phone isn't picked up or recognised, any idea how I can get the laptop to pick up the connection properly?

Weird Intermittent Brick; Completely Dead For Long Periods

Hoping someone can help, haven't found any threads about this particular problem.
I bought a used "One X" that was totally stock and seemed to work OK. I rooted it, unlocked the bootloader, and got S-off. I then installed the newest version of Viper XL. Everything worked fine for a while but after a couple days I went to use it and it was totally dead. Battery was half charged a minute before and now nothing. Plugged it into a wall charger and USB and got nothing, not even an orange light. After trying to reboot and hard reboot it for 20 minutes I quit and just plugged it in and left it.
Checked it a few hours later and it was still the same but just for fun I tried a hard reboot again and it launched right away. It worked with no problems for another day and then same thing. When I got it restarted this time I downloaded and ran the latest RUU exe file to eliminate any problems the Roms might be causing, but no, just happened again today and was hours before I got it restarted, this time just by holding the power button.
Any ideas? All help appreciated.

Its somewhat of a known problem, but unfortunately an unknown cause, and I haven't seen any real solutions. Battery drops suddenly, no LED light, but charging for several hours brings it back. Usually happens at night, for some reason. But yours seems much more frequent than other cases I've heard. I've maybe only had this happen twice in the year+ I've had this phone. If this keeps happening every day, or close to that, its obviously a big problem.

redpoint73 said:
Its somewhat of a known problem, but unfortunately an unknown cause, and I haven't seen any real solutions. Battery drops suddenly, no LED light, but charging for several hours brings it back. Usually happens at night, for some reason. But yours seems much more frequent than other cases I've heard. I've maybe only had this happen twice in the year+ I've had this phone. If this keeps happening every day, or close to that, its obviously a big problem.
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One extra detail I left out. The phone seems to be truly off, as when I get it restarted it doesn't appear the battery was drained at all. It's basically a brick that randomly decides to come back to life. Even if I only leave it plugged in for 15 minutes and then unplug it and try restarting again, it basically comes to life with a full battery.

Strange. Maybe related to the issue I mentioned, maybe something different.
Since you ran the latest RUU, don't think there is much else that can be done. Might be a hardware issue. I would tell the seller and see how they respond. They will probably swear they didn't have the issue. But it doesn't hurt to bring it up.

My problem is little different but almost same.
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Hoping someone can help, haven't found any threads about this particular problem.
I bought a used "One X" that was totally stock and seemed to work OK. I rooted it, unlocked the bootloader, and got S-off. I then installed the newest version of Viper XL. Everything worked fine for a while but after a couple days I went to use it and it was totally dead. Battery was half charged a minute before and now nothing. Plugged it into a wall charger and USB and got nothing, not even an orange light. After trying to reboot and hard reboot it for 20 minutes I quit and just plugged it in and left it.
Checked it a few hours later and it was still the same but just for fun I tried a hard reboot again and it launched right away. It worked with no problems for another day and then same thing. When I got it restarted this time I downloaded and ran the latest RUU exe file to eliminate any problems the Roms might be causing, but no, just happened again today and was hours before I got it restarted, this time just by holding the power button.
Any ideas? All help appreciated.
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Its somewhat of a known problem, but unfortunately an unknown cause, and I haven't seen any real solutions. Battery drops suddenly, no LED light, but charging for several hours brings it back. Usually happens at night, for some reason. But yours seems much more frequent than other cases I've heard. I've maybe only had this happen twice in the year+ I've had this phone. If this keeps happening every day, or close to that, its obviously a big problem.
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My phone was working flawlessly then I connected it to usb, Display turned blank (gray) then It is dead as a brick. No lights no charging signs of life

Avikar said:
My phone was working flawlessly then I connected it to usb, Display turned blank (gray) then It is dead as a brick. No lights no charging signs of life
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Put the phone on the wall charger (not connected to your computer) for several hours (overnight) and see if there is any change.

Not sure if it's the same problem, but I had something similar happen a couple days ago while on CM 10.2 nightly:
Sudden power drop
I threw a couple logs in there, just in case they were useful.

redpoint73 said:
Put the phone on the wall charger (not connected to your computer) for several hours (overnight) and see if there is any change.
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Charged it for the whole night still the same dead phone no response... No vibrations, no screen and no LEDS.

Avikar said:
Charged it for the whole night still the same dead phone no response... No vibrations, no screen and no LEDS.
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Try the bootloader button combination. Then try it while connected to the wall charger. Similarly, just try booting normally while connected to the charger. It makes no sense, but I've seen at least one guy where this worked (bootloader button combo while connected to charger), when nothing else would make the phone boot.
Other than that, its not looking good. No LEDS, and the phone can't be read by the computer, you're pretty done. Odd that just connected to USB did this. Maybe some hardware failure related to the USB port?

redpoint73 said:
Try the bootloader button combination. Then try it while connected to the wall charger. Similarly, just try booting normally while connected to the charger. It makes no sense, but I've seen at least one guy where this worked (bootloader button combo while connected to charger), when nothing else would make the phone boot.
Other than that, its not looking good. No LEDS, and the phone can't be read by the computer, you're pretty done. Odd that just connected to USB did this. Maybe some hardware failure related to the USB port?
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Yeah even i can't digest the fact that making my phone S-off installing CM 10.2 didnt do any bad but a connection to USB killed my phone