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[q] internal sd and external sd

heres my problem... I used app2sd thinking it was moving my apps to external sd but it moves them from phone to internal sd. I contacted the developer about it and their response was that the android os handles that function and that their app only acts as a ui. something like that anyway. maybe they didnt understand what I meant. is there an app available that can actually move apps to external sd instead of internal sd?

How do you know it's moving them to this "internal memory" and not your sdcard?
Edit: just reread, by external do you mean an external like usb drive or something?

Ok. this phone has 3 memory sections in settings. external micro sd card(32gb), internal memory(6gb), and internal phone storage(1.2gb). I used app2sd and moved all movable apps to sd. they are not on my external sd card. all the apps are in my internal memory. the phone thinks they're in my sd card but they're not. if I go into the manage apps section and view an app that is suppose to be on my sd card, it has the option to move to phone available, instead of move to sd card. basically its implying that the app is on the sd card. but its not.

Rydinfly said:
Ok. this phone has 3 memory sections in settings. external micro sd card(32gb), internal memory(6gb), and internal phone storage(1.2gb). I used app2sd and moved all movable apps to sd. they are not on my external sd card. all the apps are in my internal memory. the phone thinks they're in my sd card but they're not. if I go into the manage apps section and view an app that is suppose to be on my sd card, it has the option to move to phone available, instead of move to sd card. basically its implying that the app is on the sd card. but its not.
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Dude i know EXACTLY what you mean but for some reason no one either knows or seems to care about this problem.
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techs please
I don't think its because they don't care. I think its because they don't understand. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this. and when I'm done posting this, I'm going to send lg a message.
I do want to explain a little more.... when I use es file explorer and it first opens ups, it puts me in phone/sdcard the first file in that directory is _externalSD so when it shows me that im in phone/sdcard im actually in the root of the phone memory(built in 6gb-non-removable). the file _externalSD is actually my external micro sd card. now, if the phone is smart enough to create a dcim folder in the _externalSD folder and when altering settings in the camera app to save pics and video to external sd(it can do this), then why cant it save these apps to physical external micro sd card? seems to me all they have to do is change the storage location in the system to the correct location. they got it right for the camera!

Techs please
I don't think its because they don't care. I think its because they don't understand. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this. and when I'm done posting this, I'm going to send lg a message.
I do want to explain a little more.... when I use es file explorer and it first opens ups, it puts me in phone/sdcard the first file in that directory is _externalSD so when it shows me that im in phone/sdcard im actually in the root of the phone memory(built in 6gb-non-removable). the file _externalSD is actually my external micro sd card. now, if the phone is smart enough to create a dcim folder in the _externalSD folder and when altering settings in the camera app to save pics and video to external sd(it can do this), then why cant it save these apps to physical external micro sd card? seems to me all they have to do is change the storage location in the system to the correct location. they got it right for the camera!

First thing first. LG from the beginning shouldn't have separated the internal storage into 2 sections (mind it that the phone itself only has one internal card). If you see my attachment then you'll see what I'm saying. Notice the second and second last storage icons. Both are showing ONLY internal card.
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ok. just got done chating with lg. 2.3 update is available through them n it should correct the issue. you have to download the pdf from them that has the proper instructions. good luck

As far as I know, the update doesn't help.
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[Q] IS any way to download apps from playstore to sd card directly?

IS any way to download apps from playstore to sd card directly???
like browser setting
Default Store > Set to Memory Card like that in playstore ????? the low internal memory make me crazy i dont no why samsung make it low
if they knew the apps have a large size!!!

Eslam-GalaxyFit said:
IS any way to download apps from playstore to sd card directly???
like browser setting
Default Store > Set to Memory Card like that in playstore ????? the low internal memory make me crazy i dont no why samsung make it low
if they knew the apps have a large size!!!
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Read points 6 & 7 from here
You can use your sd card as primary storage and increase internal memory to whatever size you want.
Custom roms have this option inbuilt.
also, please search before you post

Harryhades said:
Read points 6 & 7 from here
You can use your sd card as primary storage and increase internal memory to whatever size you want.
Custom roms have this option inbuilt.
also, please search before you post
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I think, he think on download apps from Play Store to SD Card. I don't know that it can to SD Card,
but have program with which you can download apps from Play Store on the HDD to a computer.

Harry he meant that he will get an apk on downloading from play store
as far as i know , its not possible and it wont happen that way.
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Eslam-GalaxyFit said:
IS any way to download apps from playstore to sd card directly???
like browser setting
Default Store > Set to Memory Card like that in playstore ????? the low internal memory make me crazy i dont no why samsung make it low
if they knew the apps have a large size!!!
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Well u can use link2sd if low memory bothers u so much
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sanny5 said:
Well u can use link2sd if low memory bothers u so much
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I think that this is not about a memory. Here is a matter about it that when one time you download application from Play Store, you it have on SD Card, and install it when you want, without need for download application from Play Store again.

in simple words you can't to it directly.
check this site , you may get something ( I haven't tried )
geniusgeeks.com/download-apk-from-google-play-pc/
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Download another markets like 1mobile market , somehow it's very similar to Google play

Playstore also works just like the markets you just mentioned
The apk is saved in data/app.
Just copy them to sdcard and save it.
But the OP hasn't replied what exactly what he wants?

ya I guess he wants it directly into sd
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I think he needs just like in nokia phones where it asks install location whether to be on phone memory or sd card :cyclops:

i wrote this guide for the answer
hey this guide might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51743610

I would like Play Store to download apk file to SD Card while updating an app. I've got only ~55 MB free of internal storage (while everything possible is moved to sdcard or sdext). I cannot even upgrade some games like Cut The Rope or Fruit Ninja. Play downloads an apk (~40-45 MB) to internal storage, and then tries to install when ~10 MB of free place left. Of course immediately informs about insufficient storage. If it would save on apk on SD card, that would probably help.

You may have to move some apks or data off your internal and move them back after you've situated. A helpful tool I use is DiskView, a free app from Play Store that analyzes your internal memory (system partitions included) and gives you a file browser showing the percentage used of every folder/file. With this you can find a lot of system stuff you don't need like language packs under /system/VODB (40MB), facial recognition database under /system/lib, also libSwypeCore.so in /lib if you don't use Swype (a few MB, remains even if uninstalled). So yeah, try it and see if you can free some space.
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OK I simply want to download all of my games to the SD I have bought 2 modern combats one is 1.3 and the other is 1.5 gigs I don't want to move a dang thing I want it to be automatic download to SD I don't want to have to go through the bs of using titanium to back up delete then move it is there a way to do this directly? I'm on a gs4 16 gig all of my stuff takes too much room I didn't spend 60 on a 64 gig card for it to be useless!!!!
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If your fit is rooted and have rom that support init.d then I can help you it's easy.

How much free space do you have on your Note 3 & is it reporting wrong storage sizes?

How much free space do you have on your Note 3 & is it reporting wrong storage sizes?
I just noticed that my Note 3 has only 7gb of storage left?
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I noticed two problems.
The Note 3 is reporting the storage of the pictures incorrectly. I have the stock camera app set to save pictures on my 64gb Sandisk Class 10 Micro SD card. However, the phone is showing that pictures & videos are using 3.71gb? I do have WhatsApp and Instagram installed, so maybe that's why? I'm not too worried about this.
The Note 3 is reporting the storage of the Miscellaneous files incorrectly. It says those files are using 12.28gb but when I go in there and look, I can see that all of the files are using less than 5.6gb? (after adding the reported sizes all up)
Issue #2 is what worries me! The phone says the Miscellaneous files are using over 2x as much storage as they really are using! Is anyone else's phone doing this?
Please check your Miscellaneous files storage and see if it's reporting it accurately. Mine definitely is not and I don't know why??

Neo3D said:
I just noticed that my Note 3 has only 7gb of storage left?
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What firmware do you have?

I had this issue on note 2 as well, attach phone to pc and browse every folder, there will be 1 folder using more space than actual items in it, that folder will have some strange file, most probably thumbnails or some other file, del that.
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)

The Thumbnail files are generally quite massive (several GB).

Maybe stating the obvious here, but fake memory cards tend to do this. Hope that's not the case here.
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The cached thumbnails of videos and pictures take up a lot of space especially if you have tons of them.
I would download a file manager and check individual folders to see exactly what's taking up space. Ex. cached instagram videos/photos (that's if you use instagram) take up tons of memory as well.
Not sure if it'll help but it's a start
Edit: You can always download sdmaid to clean your phone.
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xclub_101 said:
What firmware do you have?
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I'm not rooted on still on stock.

The.Opethian said:
Maybe stating the obvious here, but fake memory cards tend to do this. Hope that's not the case here.
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The screen caps are from the internal storage and I'm 100% sure that this is not a fake Note 3 because I bought it directly from Verizon.

I just noticed that the SYSTEM MEMORY is 6.73gb, what is SYSTEM MEMORY?

Neo3D said:
I just noticed that the SYSTEM MEMORY is 6.73gb, what is SYSTEM MEMORY?
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It appears to be displayed differently for you, but this will explain that:
It's the reserved space for Android. The ammount varies per version.
And this is the culprit of the anomalous space usage:
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ShadowLea said:
It appears to be displayed differently for you, but this will explain that:
It's the reserved space for Android. The ammount varies per version.
Send From My Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9005 Using Tapatalk
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This is interesting:
My old Galaxy Nexus has no such wasted space?

Neo3D said:
This is interesting:
My old Galaxy Nexus has no such wasted space?
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That is only reporting 28.13GB free space as the internal space... It would seem likely that it is simply not even seeing the reserved space as available at all.
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It's starting to look like some Note 3's have 32 gigabytes, while others have 32 GB (billion bytes). Is that what we're seeing here?

I think the miscellaneous files is app data that had been added post install. When I clicked on it WhatsApp had 64mb of data which matched the memory used for the pictures held in the WhatsApp folder. Not sure if this is 100% correct but that's how it seems.
Drew
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try using diskusage from playstore
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The.Opethian said:
It's starting to look like some Note 3's have 32 gigabytes, while others have 32 GB (billion bytes). Is that what we're seeing here?
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GB and GigaByte are the same thing..... GB is the official abbreviation of GigaByte.

[Q] [HELP] [MEMORY] -get more app memory

Hello,
I have the basic K2_UL with no "extra" (no root, no s-off etc.. ).
It's updated to 4.2.2.
The memory management for this phone is crappy : (sorry for the bad screenshot)
App Storage : System and non movable app 3.85 GB .
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It's very few left when using non movable app : like Chrome, Yahoo Mail, Outlook and OneNote.... ). Not available from Ms Windows.
Phone Storage : User Data and movable Apps 4.15 GB. It is to store user data when no SD card is used.
Not really used if you have an SD Card
SD Storage : You'd better get one...
So i cannot update any app anymore. What is the easier way to increase App Storage?
Again, i cannot move more app. i've moved all the possible ones !
Thanks for your help.

Ivory_75 said:
Hello,
I have the basic K2_UL with no "extra" (no root, no s-off etc.. ).
It's updated to 4.2.2.
The memory management for this phone is crappy : (sorry for the bad screenshot)
App Storage : System and non movable app 3.85 GB .
It's very few left when using non movable app : like Chrome, Yahoo Mail, Outlook and OneNote.... ). Not available from Ms Windows.
Phone Storage : User Data and movable Apps 4.15 GB. It is to store user data when no SD card is used.
Not really used if you have an SD Card
SD Storage : You'd better get one...
So i cannot update any app anymore. What is the easier way to increase App Storage?
Again, i cannot move more app. i've moved all the possible ones !
Thanks for your help.
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Have you tried
[MOD][HTC One SV] Swap your internal and external memory (sd card)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306841
Not sure if it is for your model phone so please read the entire post.

Hello.
Sorry, but you didn't read the message.
It's not about switching SD_Card and Phone Storage (that contains Movable apps) that i need.
It's increase internal memory. This memory cannot be accessed from windows and is a linux partition.
Internal memory contains non movable apps : chrome, facebook etc... It's always full.
I don't want to root nor trick the phone i was asking if there was another solution. There is none.
I check my bank account with it and i want to keep it safe.
This phone is a crappy and i'll NEVER buy an htc again.
Regards,

Ivory_75 said:
Hello.
Sorry, but you didn't read the message.
It's not about switching SD_Card and Phone Storage (that contains Movable apps) that i need.
It's increase internal memory. This memory cannot be accessed from windows and is a linux partition.
Internal memory contains non movable apps : chrome, facebook etc... It's always full.
I don't want to root nor trick the phone i was asking if there was another solution. There is none.
I check my bank account with it and i want to keep it safe.
This phone is a crappy and i'll NEVER buy an htc again.
Regards,
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without rooting your phone there is absolutely no solution except buy a phone with larger storage.. the internal storage on this device is the only flaw i had with it but there is an easy workaround that only requires root.. i check my bank to and fail to see how rooting my phone is made it any less safe.. the method i use simply creates the linux partition you speak of on the sd card.. ext4.. and "extends" your internal and this allows you to move your apps to the extended partition thus freeing up as much space as you desire.. i have 32gb of internal space(i grabbed a class 10 32gb sd off amazon for like $15.. boost variant caps at 32 but others go up to 64).. if you are interested go here to an older post of mine.. i would have just included the links here but some new rule doesnt allow me to post outside links because i have less than 10 posts on my account.. again root IS required for this method.. good luck

BHoller said:
without rooting your phone there is absolutely no solution except buy a phone with larger storage.. the internal storage on this device is the only flaw i had with it but there is an easy workaround that only requires root.. i check my bank to and fail to see how rooting my phone is made it any less safe.. the method i use simply creates the linux partition you speak of on the sd card.. ext4.. and "extends" your internal and this allows you to move your apps to the extended partition thus freeing up as much space as you desire.. i have 32gb of internal space(i grabbed a class 10 32gb sd off amazon for like $15.. boost variant caps at 32 but others go up to 64).. if you are interested go here to an older post of mine.. i would have just included the links here but some new rule doesnt allow me to post outside links because i have less than 10 posts on my account.. again root IS required for this method.. good luck
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Does it matter if the card is 30 vs 48 mb/s?
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bitTeRmiN said:
Does it matter if the card is 30 vs 48 mb/s?
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Also I have not modded this phone at all its completely stock with boost.

the speed at which the sd card reads/writes is not a factor.. i personally went with a c10 so there was no chance of lag/stutter when running an app/game from the extended partition.. most apps/games are small enough in file size that the speed shouldnt matter.. you will need to root your device and should always make a backup.. store your backup in multiple locations(computer/flash drive/dropbox/cloud) to be safe if ever something happens to your phone help will be much easier if you have a backup ready to go

How to move app data only to the microSD card on your Galaxy S7, S7 Edge

Another important advantage of having expandable storage on the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge is the ability to move large apps or games to the added storage space.
The process to move apps is simple and shouldn’t affect your day-to-day use of any apps or the device.
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Here’s what you need to do:
With a microSD card installed, launch the Settings app.
Find and select Storage from the list of options.
Tap on Internal storage.
Select Apps.
Locate the app you’d like to move, and tap on it.
Under the “Storage Used” section, tap on the Change button and select SD Card.
On the next screen, select Next and let the phone complete the move. :good:
With the transfer complete, the app will run and act normally. Should you remove the microSD card from your device, the app’s icon will be replaced with an icon indicating it is stored on an SD card. You will be unable to use the app until you place the microSD card back into the device.
If after moving an app to the SD card you experience performance issues, you can move the app back to your phone’s internal storage by following the same directions outlined above, and select “Internal storage.”‘ :highfive:

OK... from my 10GB of movable apps... it moved 300MB
Adoptable storage. there is no way around.
32GB - especially in combination with Gear VR is a bad joke
You know 50% of S7 users can´t watch videos from the SD Card. seems to be a random thing.
Source: Me and Oculus forum
and who says 32GB is enough:
WTF do you even need a S7 for... STFU, no comments

Hasn't this always been the way to do this? How is this news to some?
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There is a way to setup adoptable storage from ADB on the device.
See over on Modaco
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
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hiElena said:
Another important advantage of having expandable storage on the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge is the ability to move large apps or games to the added storage space.
The process to move apps is simple and shouldn’t affect your day-to-day use of any apps or the device.
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Here’s what you need to do:
With a microSD card installed, launch the Settings app.
Find and select Storage from the list of options.
Tap on Internal storage.
Select Apps.
Locate the app you’d like to move, and tap on it.
Under the “Storage Used” section, tap on the Change button and select SD Card.
On the next screen, select Next and let the phone complete the move. :good:
With the transfer complete, the app will run and act normally. Should you remove the microSD card from your device, the app’s icon will be replaced with an icon indicating it is stored on an SD card. You will be unable to use the app until you place the microSD card back into the device.
If after moving an app to the SD card you experience performance issues, you can move the app back to your phone’s internal storage by following the same directions outlined above, and select “Internal storage.”‘ :highfive:
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I haven't got the change option on my S7 Edge (European version)
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stratplayer said:
There is a way to setup adoptable storage from ADB on the device.
See over on Modaco
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
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I haven't got the change option on my S7 Edge (European version)
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Just realised only some apps have the change option, e.g snapchat... adoptable storage all the way me thinks...

After move, all data still on internal, shows 0mb on SD card.
Any one got any idea?

Im also getting that, kind of. Of 3+ gbs i tried to move only like 200mb actually moved

I moved around 2 gigs of apps, it does work.
Problem is i can't see it with a file manager, probably because its encrypted.

I am also having the problem where the app is only partially transferred to the micro SD card. Transferring KOTOR (a 2.4GB app) only transferred around 600MB. Hearthstone (1GB) moved abour 300MB... Guess I'll be enabling adoptable storage.

hiElena said:
If you just wanna backup your apps to pc, you can use the free syncios app.
It enables you t
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Please, don't advertise other apps...

Is this some bug, joke or what? Just moved about 17gb of games and it actually made me 2gb of free space. It seems completly ignoring obb files. I use lot of huge apps, I was completly counting on this when buying this device as portable "console" . I am so pissed of. Bought it for its performance but what can I do with performance without space. And I dont even have VR yet. Does adoptable storage affect framerate in games and avoid varranty, or not? Did anybody trie it? I have 64GB C10 sdxc Adata card, need to know if it can run games (most heavy ones) smooth. Dont care about multitask, I am focused on single task performance and gaming FPS. Thx for any advice if adoptable storage is worth it in my case

Came here to talk about the same thing. It seems moving to 'external storage' doesn't do much of anything for games. I moved Star Wars Uprising and Order and Chaos 2 to my external and afterwards it still shows Uprising using about 2.2 GB of internal and more than 1 GB of O&C2. What gives??
Has anyone tried out the adoptable storage option and its gaming impact?

Some games still show as if they are on internal even tho they are on sd card.
World of tanks for example. Shows all over 4 gigs on internal storage, but it's on the SD card. I've tested this and found it to be true
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Apparently the title is misleading. It seems that this does not move the entire app like with A2SD but only sets the location where the app stores its data, eg user & configuration files, etc.
We'll need someone who's device is rooted and unencrypted to analyse what gets moved and what doesn't.