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[q] internal sd and external sd

heres my problem... I used app2sd thinking it was moving my apps to external sd but it moves them from phone to internal sd. I contacted the developer about it and their response was that the android os handles that function and that their app only acts as a ui. something like that anyway. maybe they didnt understand what I meant. is there an app available that can actually move apps to external sd instead of internal sd?

How do you know it's moving them to this "internal memory" and not your sdcard?
Edit: just reread, by external do you mean an external like usb drive or something?

Ok. this phone has 3 memory sections in settings. external micro sd card(32gb), internal memory(6gb), and internal phone storage(1.2gb). I used app2sd and moved all movable apps to sd. they are not on my external sd card. all the apps are in my internal memory. the phone thinks they're in my sd card but they're not. if I go into the manage apps section and view an app that is suppose to be on my sd card, it has the option to move to phone available, instead of move to sd card. basically its implying that the app is on the sd card. but its not.

Rydinfly said:
Ok. this phone has 3 memory sections in settings. external micro sd card(32gb), internal memory(6gb), and internal phone storage(1.2gb). I used app2sd and moved all movable apps to sd. they are not on my external sd card. all the apps are in my internal memory. the phone thinks they're in my sd card but they're not. if I go into the manage apps section and view an app that is suppose to be on my sd card, it has the option to move to phone available, instead of move to sd card. basically its implying that the app is on the sd card. but its not.
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Dude i know EXACTLY what you mean but for some reason no one either knows or seems to care about this problem.
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techs please
I don't think its because they don't care. I think its because they don't understand. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this. and when I'm done posting this, I'm going to send lg a message.
I do want to explain a little more.... when I use es file explorer and it first opens ups, it puts me in phone/sdcard the first file in that directory is _externalSD so when it shows me that im in phone/sdcard im actually in the root of the phone memory(built in 6gb-non-removable). the file _externalSD is actually my external micro sd card. now, if the phone is smart enough to create a dcim folder in the _externalSD folder and when altering settings in the camera app to save pics and video to external sd(it can do this), then why cant it save these apps to physical external micro sd card? seems to me all they have to do is change the storage location in the system to the correct location. they got it right for the camera!

Techs please
I don't think its because they don't care. I think its because they don't understand. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this. and when I'm done posting this, I'm going to send lg a message.
I do want to explain a little more.... when I use es file explorer and it first opens ups, it puts me in phone/sdcard the first file in that directory is _externalSD so when it shows me that im in phone/sdcard im actually in the root of the phone memory(built in 6gb-non-removable). the file _externalSD is actually my external micro sd card. now, if the phone is smart enough to create a dcim folder in the _externalSD folder and when altering settings in the camera app to save pics and video to external sd(it can do this), then why cant it save these apps to physical external micro sd card? seems to me all they have to do is change the storage location in the system to the correct location. they got it right for the camera!

First thing first. LG from the beginning shouldn't have separated the internal storage into 2 sections (mind it that the phone itself only has one internal card). If you see my attachment then you'll see what I'm saying. Notice the second and second last storage icons. Both are showing ONLY internal card.
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ok. just got done chating with lg. 2.3 update is available through them n it should correct the issue. you have to download the pdf from them that has the proper instructions. good luck

As far as I know, the update doesn't help.
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FolderMount (Root - Free up Internal Storage)

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Thought would post this as have been using this app for a couple days on diff devices, it is like (GL2SD) or (Link2SD) but you don't have to partition your SD card at all . On Xperia Play you can move/link (Root>Data>Data) folders or whatever to your SD, meaning games like Afterburner (450mb on internal) can be moved to SD card fully and free up the little internal storage we have. If also get a new device with Internal SD and External SDext (Also storage via usb OTG) this can also move big (SD>Android>Data/Obb) folders to external SDext (Like Directory Bind) as well so a great all in 1 with a nice easy UI.
Check out the app free (Limited Free version with IAP to unlock full) on the market here -
DOWNLOAD GOOGLE PLAY
or can visit the XDA made thread here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Description
ROOT is required. Without it, the app will not launch.
Problems? Use the EMAIL DEVELOPER link in the Play Store.Today some apps store big files over the internal SD card (e.g. games, podcasts, offline RSS content, pictures, videos, offline navigation software). Typically users have a small internal sd card size (~16GB) while the external SD is a lot bigger (~32-64GB). Most of these apps users download from the Play Store save their application data in the internal sdcard by default and don't have an option to use the external SD card to store data so they starve your internal SD card memory. FolderMount is the solution to this issue. This app has the ability to link folders in your internal sdcard to folders in your external sdcard thereby populating the internal sdcard folders with content that really exists in the external card. This helps us free space and have multiple games/apps with big data stored simultaneously without the need to uninstall. For Nexus devices with no external sdcard, this application should help link folders to a usb flash drive for example.
Features of FolderMount:
* Mount internal SD card folders to external SD folders.
* Move content from internal to external when a pair is added. (Dialog prompt)
* Support for Android 2.3 - 4.2.2.
* Holo themed throughout and an intuitive GUI design.
* It will check SDCARD mount status and remount if necessary.
Howto
* Add a folder pair. Source is the internal sdcard and destination is your extSdCard
* After adding, FM will offer to move the files for you. Click yes.
* Wait until the move operation is done then click on the PIN. If PIN turns green, you're all set.
* The files will exist in both the source and destination after mounting. This is expected and is normal. The files you see in your internal sdcard actually reside in your external sdcard now and if you "unpin" the pair, you'll see that your internal sdcard is empty again.
There are other apps that do the same functionality but this is the first to bring you support for Android 4.2 with a Holo themed app and an intuitive interface.
Have fun
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So wait... this moves dex, lib, apk... and data?!
If that's the case, I'm ditching Link2SD fast

TLRtheory said:
So wait... this moves dex, lib, apk... and data?!
If that's the case, I'm ditching Link2SD fast
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It seams you can link any folder from anywhere to a place on your SD. I have only moved some data folders in Root>data>data myself so far (without issues) but in theory you could just link the hole main folders like Root>data>app in full (containing all Google downloaded apks) for example. But if I was doing this I would try to keep foldermount on system as doubt without its data it could move itself (I would of thought).
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TLRtheory said:
So wait... this moves dex, lib, apk... and data?!
If that's the case, I'm ditching Link2SD fast
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+1
Just need some confirmation that the Data does work. I'm running low on my 2.5GB Partition Anyway.

omg you CAN move app to sdcard

so i just saw here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Yr7PvgKQw
you can move app to sd card something that the s4 didnt have wwowowwowo

Is there proof that it's the actual external SD? I can move apps to "SD" on my Note 1 but it's not my external SD but built in storage with a different partition.

LuckyStrike88 said:
Is there proof that it's the actual external SD? I can move apps to "SD" on my Note 1 but it's not my external SD but built in storage with a different partition.
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your installed app that wat i heard but hell yea all those game logy 1gb plus does become handy

Yup, you can do it on my Nvidia Shield. You could so do it on the Galaxy S4 Active.
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Wait is this the app or the app+app data there is a big difference. One is a few hundred MB the other is 1.2-2GB of data. I hope its app +app data.

app to sd
So can anyone here who has a Note 3 confirm whether they can move apps to sd without needing any (rooted) app please?

This is old news. They've put it back in since the storage backlash they received from sgs4. Yes I can confirm.
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MohJee said:
This is old news. They've put it back in since the storage backlash they received from sgs4. Yes I can confirm.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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How does it affect apps? Any slowdown? Does it affect widgets etc? Sdcards are slower than internal?
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LuckyStrike88 said:
Is there proof that it's the actual external SD? I can move apps to "SD" on my Note 1 but it's not my external SD but built in storage with a different partition.
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It the actual external SD.
danieljamie said:
How does it affect apps? Any slowdown? Does it affect widgets etc? Sdcards are slower than internal?
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Internal storage has much faster reads/write speeds. Do apps slow down when you move them to sd card? No, not really, assuming the SD card is class 10 or better.
Does it affect widgets
Yes, you won't be able to install any apps widget unless the app exists in the internal storage.

If this is the same as the Move Apps to SD on the S4 you move a gig app to the SD card and your internal storage goes down by 20 megs, but maybe it is a newer upgraded version.

kitsinni said:
If this is the same as the Move Apps to SD on the S4 you move a gig app to the SD card and your internal storage goes down by 20 megs, but maybe it is a newer upgraded version.
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It look like that, I did it with 700mb game and my free internal space didn't even change.
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Built-in "Move to SD" moves the APK file. That's it. If it's a 15m APK with 1G of data, well, it's moving 15m. That's how it's always been.
Linking or otherwise moving entire /data folders is different and generally not supported since Gingerbread anyway.

OK, we're getting conflicting reports. Can someone who actually knows respond and put this to rest.

LuckyStrike88 said:
OK, we're getting conflicting reports. Can someone who actually knows respond and put this to rest.
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Just move apk. It doesnt move downloaded data

danielherrero said:
Just move apk. It doesnt move downloaded data
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If you move the apk before dl'ing data, would the data be stored on the card? It was my impression that it's a dev's choice if the data can be moved or not... That said, I've been on iOS since gingerbread, so things are different now

vtjay said:
If you move the apk before dl'ing data, would the data be stored on the card? It was my impression that it's a dev's choice if the data can be moved or not... That said, I've been on iOS since gingerbread, so things are different now
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As far as I'm aware no device running anything past Gingerbread has been able to natively move apps to the EXTERNAL REMOVABLE sd card.
This thread has been a waste of everyones time, thanks OP.

Was I speaking Chinese in my last post?
Since words are clearly futile in these forums, I've decided to explain with the aid of screenshots
Before moving Angry Birds Star Wars to EXTERNAL SD CARD:
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After moving Angry Birds Star Wars to EXTERNAL SD CARD:
How much size is moved to the External SD card and how much data is left behind in internal depends on the App/Game

LuckyStrike88 said:
As far as I'm aware no device running anything past Gingerbread has been able to natively move apps to the EXTERNAL REMOVABLE sd card.
This thread has been a waste of everyones time, thanks OP.
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Samsung brought the feature back after getting slammed on the gs4 for lack of storage.

My apologies to OP.
Thanks for posting picture proof, everyone else needs to chime in ONLY IF THEY KNOW.

[Q] [HELP] [MEMORY] -get more app memory

Hello,
I have the basic K2_UL with no "extra" (no root, no s-off etc.. ).
It's updated to 4.2.2.
The memory management for this phone is crappy : (sorry for the bad screenshot)
App Storage : System and non movable app 3.85 GB .
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It's very few left when using non movable app : like Chrome, Yahoo Mail, Outlook and OneNote.... ). Not available from Ms Windows.
Phone Storage : User Data and movable Apps 4.15 GB. It is to store user data when no SD card is used.
Not really used if you have an SD Card
SD Storage : You'd better get one...
So i cannot update any app anymore. What is the easier way to increase App Storage?
Again, i cannot move more app. i've moved all the possible ones !
Thanks for your help.

Ivory_75 said:
Hello,
I have the basic K2_UL with no "extra" (no root, no s-off etc.. ).
It's updated to 4.2.2.
The memory management for this phone is crappy : (sorry for the bad screenshot)
App Storage : System and non movable app 3.85 GB .
It's very few left when using non movable app : like Chrome, Yahoo Mail, Outlook and OneNote.... ). Not available from Ms Windows.
Phone Storage : User Data and movable Apps 4.15 GB. It is to store user data when no SD card is used.
Not really used if you have an SD Card
SD Storage : You'd better get one...
So i cannot update any app anymore. What is the easier way to increase App Storage?
Again, i cannot move more app. i've moved all the possible ones !
Thanks for your help.
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Have you tried
[MOD][HTC One SV] Swap your internal and external memory (sd card)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306841
Not sure if it is for your model phone so please read the entire post.

Hello.
Sorry, but you didn't read the message.
It's not about switching SD_Card and Phone Storage (that contains Movable apps) that i need.
It's increase internal memory. This memory cannot be accessed from windows and is a linux partition.
Internal memory contains non movable apps : chrome, facebook etc... It's always full.
I don't want to root nor trick the phone i was asking if there was another solution. There is none.
I check my bank account with it and i want to keep it safe.
This phone is a crappy and i'll NEVER buy an htc again.
Regards,

Ivory_75 said:
Hello.
Sorry, but you didn't read the message.
It's not about switching SD_Card and Phone Storage (that contains Movable apps) that i need.
It's increase internal memory. This memory cannot be accessed from windows and is a linux partition.
Internal memory contains non movable apps : chrome, facebook etc... It's always full.
I don't want to root nor trick the phone i was asking if there was another solution. There is none.
I check my bank account with it and i want to keep it safe.
This phone is a crappy and i'll NEVER buy an htc again.
Regards,
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without rooting your phone there is absolutely no solution except buy a phone with larger storage.. the internal storage on this device is the only flaw i had with it but there is an easy workaround that only requires root.. i check my bank to and fail to see how rooting my phone is made it any less safe.. the method i use simply creates the linux partition you speak of on the sd card.. ext4.. and "extends" your internal and this allows you to move your apps to the extended partition thus freeing up as much space as you desire.. i have 32gb of internal space(i grabbed a class 10 32gb sd off amazon for like $15.. boost variant caps at 32 but others go up to 64).. if you are interested go here to an older post of mine.. i would have just included the links here but some new rule doesnt allow me to post outside links because i have less than 10 posts on my account.. again root IS required for this method.. good luck

BHoller said:
without rooting your phone there is absolutely no solution except buy a phone with larger storage.. the internal storage on this device is the only flaw i had with it but there is an easy workaround that only requires root.. i check my bank to and fail to see how rooting my phone is made it any less safe.. the method i use simply creates the linux partition you speak of on the sd card.. ext4.. and "extends" your internal and this allows you to move your apps to the extended partition thus freeing up as much space as you desire.. i have 32gb of internal space(i grabbed a class 10 32gb sd off amazon for like $15.. boost variant caps at 32 but others go up to 64).. if you are interested go here to an older post of mine.. i would have just included the links here but some new rule doesnt allow me to post outside links because i have less than 10 posts on my account.. again root IS required for this method.. good luck
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Does it matter if the card is 30 vs 48 mb/s?
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bitTeRmiN said:
Does it matter if the card is 30 vs 48 mb/s?
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Also I have not modded this phone at all its completely stock with boost.

the speed at which the sd card reads/writes is not a factor.. i personally went with a c10 so there was no chance of lag/stutter when running an app/game from the extended partition.. most apps/games are small enough in file size that the speed shouldnt matter.. you will need to root your device and should always make a backup.. store your backup in multiple locations(computer/flash drive/dropbox/cloud) to be safe if ever something happens to your phone help will be much easier if you have a backup ready to go

Adoptable storage question, storage always full

Hi all!
Yesterday I bought my Moto G 2015 (8GB) with a 32GB SD-card. I formatted the SD-card as 'adoptable storage', but after installing some (10+) apps, my internal memory was full. I thought that the adoptable storage was a solution for a full internal memory? Can anybody tell me how this works?
Trust me, I Googled a lot, but no one seemed to have the exact same problem.
I rooted the phone, and can't get Link2SD working.. I'm on 6.0 btw.

I'm also looking for an answer to this. Seems wrong to me.
When I put the card in, it asked if I wanted to use it for adoptable storage, I did.
Within a month, there are low memory warnings, although the SD Card is empty?
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We've cleared the cache now, which has given some breathing room, but why hasn't it just expanded into the SD card?
Then, how do you explain the maths of this?
1.7GB + 7MB does not equal 3.38GB...

you will have some where an option to move your apk and datas to memorycard,
do onething.. goto APP INFO, search for move option..

Are you sure? That doesn't sound like adoptable storage. I thought it was supposed to blend internal and SD card into one. If I select to move to SD, that implies there is an SD... Instead of it all being one merged internal memory.
It also doesn't explain why there are low memory errors.

Facebook app lags or freezes on SD card (Adoptable Storage ). any solution ?

I have the same problem.
i bought a 64gb sd card but beside few apps and some directories you can't move everything to it.
I don't have any pictures, everything is on Google photos, i use CCleaner to remove everything every 2 days...
after a year my smartphone internal memory is 95% full with only the Google apps.
I can't even update them, Google play can't do it because of insufficient storage..
this morning i got notifications from the sms app saying there is not enough room for new msg
beside CCleaner to remove cache & tmp stuff i have no solution.
today I started to check how to resize the partitions, like /system for example: disk usage shows lots of free space there..

Did you migrate all data to the new adopted storage? Android won't start using the SD card as adopted storage until you do... in the Storage screen, press the 3 dot menu, is there an option to Move or Migrate data? If so, you never finished the adoption process and the card is just sitting there waiting for the adoption process to "finish" so to speak.

hi,yes i did this, it was the main idea when I bought the 64 gb ultra fast SD card.
like the op i though the SD card and the internal storage will be seen as a unique drive.
another idea: i'm using cm and i though maybe the Samsung original rom is better partitioned giving the user more free space..
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to answer andycri, the weird math for the disk usage come from hidden space used by Android on /data

The 2 workarounds I have used on my Moto G 3rd Gen (2015) are:
1.a Go to Settings, Storage & USB.
1.b Touch Internal storage.
1.c Touch Cached data.
1.d Clear cached data? box appears. Touch OK.
2.a Touch Apps. And let it calculate and sort.
2.b Touch Google App.
2.c Touch the MANAGE SPACE button.
2.d Touch the CLEAR GOOGLE SEARCH DATA button.
2.e Touch OK.
2.f Touch the back arrow button.
2.g Exit Storage, Exit Settings.
That should make enough space to update your phone's apps, etc.
I have noticed (using Android Assistant) that a few photos and videos appear (reported as) in the internal memory but are really on the SD card. I suspect it is a non-repairable bug or feature to Android 6.0.1. If I was rooted I think I could verify the location of those errant data files.
Surprisingly, I have a Moto X 16gb where memory has never been a problem. My next phone is going to have the maximum internal memory, where memory should not be a problem.