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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365884
All we need is a few devs to port it to our Infuses, but basically everything but the camcorder works! (Camera works, just no recording)
Can't wait until something is available for us to try.
infused miui
I think we would need a modified kernel to port it
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I was playing with it a little bit earlier. Couldn't get it to even flash. I didn't look into it much though. I was going to try flashing it and then Hellraiser just for fun to see if it would work.
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I think we would need a modified kernel to port it
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Hmmm maybe.... or get linux to do some reverse engenerring lol.
You would have to rewrite the updater script to even get it to flash properly before anything else
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i hope someone works on this =D
ICS thoughts
I am really hoping that ICS will get ported to the Infuse, I have been running an alpha on my Inspire for the last 2 days and I really like the direction it takes Android. It will look better on the slightly bigger better Infuse screen and faster proc.
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The kernels are veeeery different though (2.6.35 for GB, 3.x for ICS unless I'm mistaken) so I'm not too sure what we can do unless someone compiles one from source...........
Working on a little something..
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Working on a little something..
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I know someone will port it. I can see LB working on it right now. We just need to be patient and it will come.
And D, I'm sure you are also working on this. Port masta
Sorry for the delay in getting something out. Due to a specific bug and general lack of power on my main system, I've decided to set up a MONSTER build system that should build ICS in no time. The issue is, it's not wanting to install Ubuntu 64 bit. With Ubuntu 32 bit it will only show up as 8 CPUs and 2 GB of RAM (though that should be more, it's still a very small fraction of what it has). I've been trying all day to get it to install and it's been fighting me every step of the way from EFI issues to SATA III issues. Once I get it up and running I should be able to get some builds going. Stay patient!
Well, if it helps any, I've got a Fedora 15 box I do my builds on. I've got a ssh port open for it. You're welcome to use that for the time being if you'd like. It's a little older, but it builds nicely (Dual 3.2GHz Xeon, 12GB RAM).
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Sorry for the delay in getting something out. Due to a specific bug and general lack of power on my main system, I've decided to set up a MONSTER build system that should build ICS in no time. The issue is, it's not wanting to install Ubuntu 64 bit. With Ubuntu 32 bit it will only show up as 8 CPUs and 2 GB of RAM (though that should be more, it's still a very small fraction of what it has). I've been trying all day to get it to install and it's been fighting me every step of the way from EFI issues to SATA III issues. Once I get it up and running I should be able to get some builds going. Stay patient!
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Well, if it helps any, I've got a Fedora 15 box I do my builds on. I've got a ssh port open for it. You're welcome to use that for the time being if you'd like. It's a little older, but it builds nicely (Dual 3.2GHz Xeon, 12GB RAM).
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Maybe you can do something with this: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/cm9-cyanogenmod-9-for-galaxy-s/ Remmeber our device is pretty much the same thing as this with few differences, letting hope rain on us . You guys could use that to start, just a problem is since it is related to Cyanogen mod maybe linux is a guy to contact, he will not answer my pms idk he may be gone.
We're definitely going to need a kernel developer to bring us Linux 3.x.x.x
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+10
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Have you tried messing with a kernel before?
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We're definitely going to need a kernel developer to bring us Linux 3.x.x.x
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Linux bozo could (wont answer, prob not happenin) bedwa maybe could (I think he is amature, doesn't know all tricks) ummm entropy ( loves gs2, may do it but doesn't like developing on infuse as much). That's really our only options right now. We can try em all, but def no garuntees.
Haven't messed with kernel development much at all...idk ...I think our development are cooking one up for us tho...I have faith...
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Haven't messed with kernel development much at all...idk ...I think our development are cooking one up for us tho...I have faith...
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We should set a bounty, lol. Idk what to give though, maybe some free mp3s or email them an itunes gift card number hmmmm.
I've never liked Ubuntu honestly but since all the "testing" is done on Ubuntu I've spent my time building between Ubuntu and Fedora.
Just wondering who else builds on other distros besides Ubuntu... and to another extent: what differences/difficulties have you had?
I build on Fedora Core 13, I did not find it to be difficult at all.
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I've never liked Ubuntu honestly but since all the "testing" is done on Ubuntu I've spent my time building between Ubuntu and Fedora.
Just wondering who else builds on other distros besides Ubuntu... and to another extent: what differences/difficulties have you had?
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you can build on anything if you get the right packages. #1 reason people build on Ubuntu is because that's what is officially supported by Google and the instructions are written for it. Plus Ubuntu is the most "friendly" user experience.
I know R4INS builds on Suse.
I've been tempted to switch over to Suse myself and try it.
I'm very familiar about why ppl use Ubuntu. I touched upon it in first post but this is more of curiosity question. I've used SUSE (before android days) as well but found it to get very slow and bloated after a while.
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I'm very familiar about why ppl use Ubuntu. I touched upon it in first post but this is more of curiosity question. I've used SUSE (before android days) as well but found it to get very slow and bloated after a while.
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Not sure about the old suse.. but the current version uses about half the resources of Ubuntu. A 6 hr build on Ubuntu will usually take 2 hrs on the same machine running suse.
Suse is DEFINITELY not weighed down by bloat... Ubuntu on the other hand
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Yes I am referring an older version of suse. Opensuse 10 or 11 if I remember correctly. I would hope in the newer ones they would improve... it was kinda known issue then. That's really significant difference in build times.
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Ever want to learn C? Want to build a rom too?? Well this thread will then be for you! I have combined learning C with building a rom in a small little program that is sent to github and well committed. The best part is, you the learner, will have the ability to submit additions you do to the program with your new C skills and have it published right here in this thread with your name! Cool right?
So first things first, you have to git clone the source
just run the command below
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git clone git://github.com/simonsickle/build_helper.git
Now, learn C and have fun. There are tutorials here that are teaching C here on xda, and this provides real life working WARNING free examples. It shows you how make files work, linking objects with the linker to get one bianary (like the kernel) and how to make code available to other built in files. It also shows you how to use an include/ directory.
if you submit code, please post a patch here with the purpose (for learning purposes) this can be done by running
Code:
diff -rupN unchangedfoldername/ folderwithmychanges/ > mychange.patch
in turn, patches can be applied with
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cd mycodedir/
patch -p1 < /location/of/patch/patchname.patch
Any suggestions are welcome, as well as all discussion. Eventually I want to teach you how to compile this code on the NDK and use a library to build ssh support in so you could ssh to a build server and run the scripts from your phone.
Wow this is a really nice idea, I hear from so many people who want to learn but get overwhelmed. This guides people over that hump. This is what the android community should be all about.
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Exactly the point. I want to encourage development as it is a passion in my life! Some guys love playing football, I love creating things from scratch. It is like an art to me, It comes from how i feel, what I want to do. What needs to be changed in the world. Coding can change everything in the world, with a simple language such as C or as complex as ASM. Without programmers, tinkers hackers, and passionate hobbiers where would the human race be? Back in the 50's with the cool cars that ran on led fuel. Now, lets go forward, and innovate with an open source license so no one can litigate
I will take a look at this Thanks.
im assuming this is only for use on linux machines and not windows?
Well you cant build a ROM in windows anyways. I was considering a ssh plugin but this is a boredom project i work on
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im assuming this is only for use on linux machines and not windows?
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Most of the low-level programming is similar between Windows/Linux. It's when you get into GUI programming is when things get strange and complicated. But as the OP states, you cannot build Android on Windows. Hint: ( dual boot )
@OP
Thanks for the useful thread And that isn't Sevierville, TN is it?
Virtual os in windows works too if you like that route. Slower though.
And yes sevierville Tennessee. Or as out of Towner's call it seevervill
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simonsimons34 said:
Virtual os in windows works too if you like that route. Slower though.
And yes sevierville Tennessee. Or as out of Towner's call it seevervill
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Next time you get online you'll see why I asked.
Ahh Knoxville. I was just through there when i went to ORNL. May be going to utk for a few years too
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Well you cant build a ROM in windows anyways. I was considering a ssh plugin but this is a boredom project i work on
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Ok looks like I'm using my really bad laptop lol. I have raid 0 on my desktop and for some reason linux distros don't like it.
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Raid and Linux works fine. Sure it takes a little more setup but it should always be possible. I mean, Linux works in some toasters anyways you may want to try a good ole virtual box
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Raid and Linux works fine. Sure it takes a little more setup but it should always be possible. I mean, Linux works in some toasters anyways you may want to try a good ole virtual box
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If I give you the error logs of the ubuntu install do you think you could help me out? In a pm of course. Dont wanna change the topic of your thread.
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Yeah post them here its relevant. When i have time, i enjoy helping others and the community publicly. This makes the community better
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Yeah post them here its relevant. When i have time, i enjoy helping others and the community publicly. This makes the community better
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I haven't been able to get a hold of my desktop for a while. Caught up in school work but I will probably have those logs by Tuesday or Wednesday.
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Also I have to ask. I've wanted to develop a graphics focused ROM. Are most of the graphics in a ROM pictures or code (as HTML can make pretty convincing graphics with text)? I'm a graphic designer and want to make a ROM no ones ever seen before. Not just a theme but a totally redesigned UI. Something revolutionary.
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OK so I found a tutorial on YouTube surrounding the jist of the problem... Its a tutorial on how to install Ubuntu on a raid 0 array... According to this video I need to have 2 hard drives. Is there a way I can just partition? I don't have 2 hard drives unfortunately and I don't wanna result to using my really slow laptop lol. Although I could probably just take a hard drive it of one of my older computers and put it in one of my other bays.
Here's the tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2rZe2Z9as&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Raid is two drives though. Or should be.
Graphics in a ROM are image in fora of .PNG
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Raid is two drives though. Or should be.
Graphics in a ROM are image in fora of .PNG
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I have raid 0 array with 1 hard drive. I think it has something to do with my chip set. Yeah... My computers all screwed up. Contemplating completely rebuilding it.
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Raid is two drives though. Or should be.
Graphics in a ROM are image in fora of .PNG
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Got another HDD... Should I turn off raid?
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Well really in my experience unless they are ssd the advantage during a build isn't as great as it could be.
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Well really in my experience unless they are ssd the advantage during a build isn't as great as it could be.
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Hey bro... it says the repository couldn't be found :/. Got Ubuntu installed. And have git.
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So, would it be possible for us to have some devs porting a building ubuntu phone for the GS3 on verizon?
I don't think the source code has been released by Canonical yet so it is a no for now.
i am pretty much sure ubuntu would come for gs3...if not they will build it and release it ..its still in development stage
This is totally within the realm of possibilities, and I for one am stoked. It's still in development, but as I understand it, they are adding support for android drivers, so if hardware works with android, it will work with ubuntu.
Ubuntu
Not sure if you are talking natively or running as an "app".
But you can already run Ubuntu on your SGS3.
It runs as an "app", meaning that it still uses the Android OS as the Hypervisor and you"remote" into the Ubuntu session.
Works pretty well though.
But not an Ubuntu phone.
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Not sure if you are talking natively or running as an "app".
But you can already run Ubuntu on your SGS3.
It runs as an "app", meaning that it still uses the Android OS as the Hypervisor and you"remote" into the Ubuntu session.
Works pretty well though.
But not an Ubuntu phone.
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I'm pretty sure they are adding android hardware support to the actual mobile OS, the idea being able to run Ubuntu with a stock image. If that's not the case, I'm selling my GS3 for the Ubuntu phone, don't care if its a downgrade the new mobile platform seems to one up android conventionality.
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This has been an intriguing development. As a Linux user, the only really integration that may be possible will be incredible. Can't wait to see this on the GS3!
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i wonder how that would be like!
It probably won't come for any CDMA phones any time soon. Verizon is all CDMA. Ubuntu phone OS won't officially support CDMA I don't believe.
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
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Will it be possible to dual boot Ubuntu and android?
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Dual boot would be amazing.
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http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/39299-[ROM][WIP]-Ubuntu-Touch-on-d2vzw-[Dev-Preview][Phantom]-[02/22/13]
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I'm curious as to whether or not this could be run in Android much like desktop Ubuntu can be run in an emulator for android. It would certainly be a quick fix for mobile data.
Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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Good luck mate - hope someone gives you a hand. Great that you want to do stuff for the rest of us here.
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Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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I'm not sure how long it'll take you to find someone, I'm no de but while you're waiting. Maybe pickup a Linux book. Coding helps too. Specifically c since you get more control at the hardware level.
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Oh well... I guess I'll just teach myself.
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Oh well... I guess I'll just teach myself.
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I would start first by sending some kernel devs like flar2 or Zarboz a pm asking them for some of the most critical pointers or tips anyway.
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I've been using xda university and they have a lot of good links for free online schools for c and c+,++
Ya we are fortunate to have guys like flar2 and others who are very helpful. I think they are always looking for beta testers as well.
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Hey guys... I'm still itching to get in the heart of development. So beings I'm limited on computer hardware, I want to take baby steps and try to pump out a couple kernels... Now my computer is 32 bit. I've read numerous threads, articles and how tos about kernel building, there are definitely a few that build on 32 bit..
I am dual booting windows XP and Ubuntu 12.10.. I've installed the SDK, JDK, and NDK.. Also have the OneXL kernel source downloaded ready to roll.
I guess my question is, is there anyone willing to mentor me and show me a bit on how its done? The tutorials are fairly vague, and most are missing crucial starting points for beginners in Ubuntu. I'm willing to do team viewer, gtalk, hell even messaging and calls. I want to build an aosp kernel and a sense kernel..
So Im begging the community for someone to step up and and help a fella out
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I am currently learning C/C++ at the moment... if you want to swap resources that you find, would love to do that
I'd really love to be able to develop as well but I've hit the same road blocks you have as well....
Picked up java and c++ a few months back. Would love to help out. Ooh, maybe we can start a team....toobearly? I have a 64bit PC running Linux mint
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If you just want to build a kernel, check out my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847344
If you have any questions about those steps, feel free to shoot me a PM or join in IRC chat (channel #cyanogenmod-evita on webchat.freenode.net). Just mention my username (rohan32) and I'll be pinged to come help out
If you are talking more about customizing kernels, feel free to shoot me a message about that too. I don't know as much as I'd like to but i can definitely help you out whenever im free with anything you have questions about regarding android or whatever.
And that goes for anyone... I'm always willing to help anyone who wants to learn how to get started. I myself was in your same shoes only a year back, and not trying to sound pretentious, but look at me now compared to where i was just a year ago. I consider myself pretty knowledgable about most stuff for the most part and I didn't have anyone to teach me regularly, so imagine what you can do with someone who can I know how it feels to be in your shoes, and I'd love to help you guys out since I know how it feels like a struggle to you
Wow rohan! That is freaking awesome! Thanks! Nice talking to you on irc as well
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Rohan this is awesome... I've been searching xda and Google and I must say your guide is probably the most detailed... I appreciate it more than you know...
As my original post had stated, I'm extremely limited because of my computer... (The wife won't let me do phone tasks on the laptop lol)
So I've seen a few pages using 32 bit to compile ROMs and kernels... I know mine won't do Roms, I know it'll probably melt the processor lol.... But I should be able to at least compile a kernel with 32 bit? Are the commands the same or would I have to do something different? I'm having trouble just getting started... Terminal in ubuntu is a bit trickier than windows and I can't seem to get the paths right even to my home folder... FML lol...
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Rohan this is awesome... I've been searching xda and Google and I must say your guide is probably the most detailed... I appreciate it more than you know...
As my original post had stated, I'm extremely limited because of my computer... (The wife won't let me do phone tasks on the laptop lol)
So I've seen a few pages using 32 bit to compile ROMs and kernels... I know mine won't do Roms, I know it'll probably melt the processor lol.... But I should be able to at least compile a kernel with 32 bit? Are the commands the same or would I have to do something different? I'm having trouble just getting started... Terminal in ubuntu is a bit trickier than windows and I can't seem to get the paths right even to my home folder... FML lol...
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Lol I know what you mean, I'm not a big ubuntu fan on its new version, good thing is with linux there is so many diff os built around same tools. I like using Mint instead of ubuntu , what's tricky is all the different packs to unload
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Uh so I'm getting this pretty much can't be done unless your running some distro of linux??
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Since android is linux based I think most devs use some sort of linux. A lot of these devs are like coding genius.
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So I think the first step for me would be making myself at home in linux...something I would not find too easy to do.
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So I think the first step for me would be making myself at home in linux...something I would not find too easy to do.
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Well, you could do what I did. Grab a distro, and get acustom to it. I prefer it over Windows now. I only use Windows when I need to use certain windows application. But most of the time I can use Wine (windows emulator in linux). I use linux mint, which is based off of ubuntu and uses the debian system. Fedora is another good. I suggest trying out different distrso by doing the live usb run. If you like it, partition your drive and dual boot windows...it is really simple
I just got ubuntu all setup in vmware. Ready to go now.
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Hmm I could be wrong but I don't think vmware works well with the process. I know to use jet downgrade tool you have to be running it solo. I think you can install it in windows but I do believe you have to boot into it vs vmware. Now you got me curious , I'm gonna try a couple things .
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Hmm I could be wrong but I don't think vmware works well with the process. I know to use jet downgrade tool you have to be running it solo. I think you can install it in windows but I do believe you have to boot into it vs vmware. Now you got me curious , I'm gonna try a couple things .
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I don't see why a vm would be a problem but if so, can always boot usb with persistent storage
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Hmm I could be wrong but I don't think vmware works well with the process. I know to use jet downgrade tool you have to be running it solo. I think you can install it in windows but I do believe you have to boot into it vs vmware. Now you got me curious , I'm gonna try a couple things .
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I remember something to that effect in the jet thread myself, but I understood it have to do with having to connect to the phone. But I don't see a problem when it comes to compiling a kernel and such.
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