hi guys,
I have a question , which is the best windows mobile phone which can play multimedia video files without encoding to smaller resolutions ?
Hope someone have an answer to this ?
I am tired of using htc phones which have a lot of problems with video playback ? Hope some experts can answer my queries ?
Note: I only use windows mobile ,dont say go for iphone, coz I had to convert all the divx shows to mp4.
kind regards
vasa
Tried Core Player?
Psygnosis84 said:
Tried Core Player?
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Ofcourse, have used kaiser,touch pro , diamond, touch hd, t-mobile mda vario 2, all htc devices, and now currently using xperia x1.Even this phone stutters with the recently downloaded the wire tv shows on core player.
regards
vasa
Depends. If you don't want to play back high-res (VGA+) H.264 video, even a low-cost iPaq 210 will do. If you do need high-res H.264, your only choice (today) is the Toshiba TG01.
Also see my H.264 bible and TG01 report.
not such use really......
Let me give you some real world advice from my PDA experiences!
To summarise:
HTC advantage plays every movie I throw at it (WM 6.5 build 21500.5) using the Imageon or standard decoder.....I am very happy to watch movies when on public transport.....
My old Samsung Omnia was the same, played pretty much everything I wanted to, very good widescreen. Most codecs played out of the box with built in apps. Didnt need anything else. TCPMP was great on it anyway! With a propa cooked rom it was even better. I was happy with it, would have got rid of PSP.....I would happily reccomend this device to any Kaiser or Diamond user as it is very very good for media.....
My mates KAiser sucks movie A*s. Just sucks sucks sucks.
My N95 8Gb runs very very well with newest core player but cant keep up with the HTC advantage or Omnia in terms of its power. You have to run the movies at full size (no shrinking/stretching) so you often get movies that are too big for 320 X 240....but it still kicks it and is very watchable - I just watched 800 MB xvid of Affliction day of reconing on it. All the fights were perfectly watchable (even if I did miss a bit lol)
I can specifically remember back in the day with my 400 Mhz XDA2 WM2003 and SPV with its 133 MHZ....
I had to encode every vid I wanted to watch best to do it to WMV for quality per MB.....
It was not so easy to watch movies....
Then I got an MDA compact (magician)- this was the first small PDA (touch) htc produced......
This was a jump for me over other devices and I found that it would run standard desktop class (read downloaded lol) Xvid and Divx movies (700MB to 1GB) but it was a bit slow and painfull......I was not comfortable watching these...
I then got a Universal. This was a step back from my Magician in terms of its processing power.....seemed to struggle to play same movies...
Then I got an Advantage (X7500) and it was okish on stock mobile 5. Put it up to WM 6.5 now and it truly is a marvel to watch movies on.
Basically.........I am watching tropic Thunder right now DVD rip....
XVID 700MB Mpeg 4 CoreASP
640 X 272
Its running so sweetly I cant imagine anyone could complain.....It stutters so slightly maybe once a min or so but once I am watching the movie I dont even notice. ITs more like a frame skip than a stutter...
The sound is phenominal (3.5 jack on this device) and I am using some skull candy ear buds watching it now. I am honestly thinking the quality with this 640 272 movie is comparable to my PSP running a proper "official" UMD.
I dont want another media device....my advantage is kicking it!!!
IF I didnt have it, I think I would be using an Omnia and I would have sold my N95 (but then I loose all my smbian apps !! )
I just can't play movies on my damn Xoom ..I have tried mkv ..avi.. mp4 I tried everything every size but still ridiculously bad the screen is terrible and it is not even near to HD ....Xoom mz604 with supposedley 720p screen ---
The display is 1280 x 800 regardless of what you think it is. Your question being?
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The display is 1280 x 800 regardless of what you think it is. Your question being?
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What I am saying is when I try playing HD movies on it --it is just not HD anymore there is always a weird something like pixels intertwined in the background especially when there is a lot of action --it is just supposed to have a 720p HD screen and one can't enjoy it ..I also tried using stuff like handbrake in order to get it the right stuff but still nothing ..
Can you give us a sample of the video? It could be your video player, try MX player. 720p videos works just fine on my XOOM.
I look movies in Youtube app and the quality is great.
show sample since the display is fine.
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Chaosgod27 said:
Can you give us a sample of the video? It could be your video player, try MX player. 720p videos works just fine on my XOOM.
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I look movies in Youtube app and the quality is great.
show sample since the display is fine.
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I have tried every MX player be player and a whole different players... and yes videos on YouTube doesn't make any problems
Sounds like your crappy encoding OR video source.
I have never faced this problem... 720p videos play flawlessly some 1080p videos get stuck. Either there is some problem with the ROM you are using or maybe a hardware problem...
Sent from my Xoom using xda app-developers app
Any thing I've encoded with DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com), using its XOOM HQXT setting, that were from high quality sources (bluray or dvd), look great on my Xoom's screen.
Playback of movies and TV programs via Netflix streaming on the Xoom also look good.
Playback of those same files or netflix via HDMI out to TV sometimes looks a little blocky. But are still watchable. (Netflix really depends on if its a "HD" playback movie or show to look any decent on a TV).
The Xoom HQXT encoded files look as good as those I've encoded (also using DVD Catalyst) for my MS Surface RT tablet, and Samsung Series 7 Slate PC (XE700T1A) using the Surface HQXT setting.
I hate to say it, but the screen of the iPad3 I have has more vibrant, and HD "TV" like colors, where as my Xoom looks more "washed out" in comparison. The Surface screen looks close to the Xoom.
EDIT: I use Mobo Player to play back on my Xoom.
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Any thing I've encoded with DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com), using its XOOM HQXT setting, that were from high quality sources (bluray or dvd), look great on my Xoom's screen.
Playback of movies and TV programs via Netflix streaming on the Xoom also look good.
Playback of those same files or netflix via HDMI out to TV sometimes looks a little blocky. But are still watchable. (Netflix really depends on if its a "HD" playback movie or show to look any decent on a TV).
The Xoom HQXT encoded files look as good as those I've encoded (also using DVD Catalyst) for my MS Surface RT tablet, and Samsung Series 7 Slate PC (XE700T1A) using the Surface HQXT setting.
I hate to say it, but the screen of the iPad3 I have has more vibrant, and HD "TV" like colors, where as my Xoom looks more "washed out" in comparison. The Surface screen looks close to the Xoom.
EDIT: I use Mobo Player to play back on my Xoom.
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I use jelly bean ROM the orginial and I will try mobo player also ...but still
If you use the proper settings, the Xoom can play great-looking 1080p videos.
visit this link on your Xoom using the stock web browser:
http://tools4movies.com/xoom/1080p/pussinboots-tlr1_h1080p.mp4
and use the stock video playback to stream the video.
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If you use the proper settings, the Xoom can play great-looking 1080p videos.
visit this link on your Xoom using the stock web browser:
http://tools4movies.com/xoom/1080p/pussinboots-tlr1_h1080p.mp4
and use the stock video playback to stream the video.
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OK I will try doing it..
Also I tried Mobo player it is better but not totally fixed
Edit: OK I have watched it and it.is Absolutely flawless ..what do usugges I should no now ?? My problem is that I have faced in a lot of movies I was trying to rip .what settings should I choose now?
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OK I will try doing it..
Also I tried Mobo player it is better but not totally fixed
Edit: OK I have watched it and it.is Absolutely flawless ..what do usugges I should no now ?? My problem is that I have faced in a lot of movies I was trying to rip .what settings should I choose now?
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What settings to use? Well, when it comes to making Good or even Great looking videos for your Xoom (or other device), it depends on 1. Quality source (crappy source video-in will produce crappy target video-out), 2. the optimum encoder settings for your playback device.
DVD Catalyst 4 has consistently taken care of #2 for me on my Xoom, iPad2, iPad3, BB Playbook, Surface RT and a few of my android phones. It has been the BEST, Easiest, and most reliable way to give me great looking videos to take with me. I've used it to encode DVD's, Blurays, camcorder videos, etc. And they all look great. Ok, so DVD rips don't look as good as Bluray rips, but that is because of the DVD source.
So my Suggestion... Read the following two links...
http://www.tools4movies.com/2012/01/dvd-catalyst-device-profiles-fast-hq-hq2-hqx/ (Note: 99% of the video watching done via my portable devices is done on the device's screen, so I don't use the 1080 profiles for the Xoom and such. Instead I stick with the HQXT for a great balance between output size and playback quality).
http://www.tools4movies.com/2012/04/motorola-xoom-avi-dvd-m2ts-mkv-and-bluray/
One draw back of having multiple play back devices (xoom, ipad2, ipad3, Surface, phone, etc), is that to get the best results, you need to encode the video using the right profile for your playback device. So for me, if I encode a movie for my Xoom today, and decide I want to watch it on my iPad as well, I have to encode the source for the iPad so I have a file encoded the best way for iPad playback. Or if I want to watch it on the Surface RT, I have to then encode using the Surface profile, etc. BUT DVD Catalyst does have profiles for all my devices and more! And they do a great job of adding profiles for newer devices as they come out.
Also keep in mind that I don't know if DVD Catalyst can get around copy protection on DVD's and Blurays as I use AnyDVD HD for this. So if your source DVD or Bluray is copy protected, you might have to deal with that before using DVD Catalyst. I do know that DVD Catalyst can't work with DRM protected video files, like those from iTunes, Ultraviolet, etc.
And NO, I do not work for the company who makes DVD Catalyst, nor am I connected to them in any way. I am just a very satisfied customer who has tried other options (Handbrake, Nero Recode, etc) and haven't been happy with the results until using DVD Catalyst.
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One draw back of having multiple play back devices (xoom, ipad2, ipad3, Surface, phone, etc), is that to get the best results, you need to encode the video using the right profile for your playback device. So for me, if I encode a movie for my Xoom today, and decide I want to watch it on my iPad as well, I have to encode the source for the iPad so I have a file encoded the best way for iPad playback.
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Thank you KidJoe,
Actually if you use DVDs as a source, the videos you create using one profile will work on just about all your devices.
Only when you are using HD content, you might run into limitations with the iPad2 (max 1280x720) and your phone (depends on the model).
I haven't had any complications with playing HQXT 1080 on the Xoom, iPad3, Surface RT and the Playbook. They even work fine on the new NOOK HD's and Kindle Fire HD's
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Actually if you use DVDs as a source, the videos you create using one profile will work on just about all your devices.
Only when you are using HD content, you might run into limitations with the iPad2 (max 1280x720) and your phone (depends on the model).
I haven't had any complications with playing HQXT 1080 on the Xoom, iPad3, Surface RT and the Playbook. They even work fine on the new NOOK HD's and Kindle Fire HD's
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Thanks. Most of my stuff is encoding from Bluray now a days.
I'm doing it to put movies on my Xoom (using Xoom HQXT profile) for my Son to watch while we travel. When I first got my MS Surface RT, I decided to copy a few of those I had done for the Xoom right onto the Surface and playback was choppy. Run the original through DVD Cat again with the Surface profile picked and they look great on the Surface. And of course, on my wife's iPad2 the ones encoded as Xoom HQXT didn't play right either.
Encoding for each device is a small price to pay for great looking videos on the device that happens to be with us
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Thanks. Most of my stuff is encoding from Bluray now a days.
I'm doing it to put movies on my Xoom (using Xoom HQXT profile) for my Son to watch while we travel. When I first got my MS Surface RT, I decided to copy a few of those I had done for the Xoom right onto the Surface and playback was choppy. Run the original through DVD Cat again with the Surface profile picked and they look great on the Surface. And of course, on my wife's iPad2 the ones encoded as Xoom HQXT didn't play right either.
Encoding for each device is a small price to pay for great looking videos on the device that happens to be with us
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Ah ok,
With Bluray, the resolution comes into play. The iPad1 and iPad2 don't like anything larger that 1280x720. If you change the resolution for the Xoom in "Modify" to 1280x720, the movies you convert for the Xoom will play on the iPad2 as well.
I'm not sure why they would be choppy on the Surface RT though. When my RT came in, I grabbed a bunch of Xoom files I had on a drive, and played them without issues (and the bigger, wider screen did make it look even better )
I already have a android hp touchpad i use for web browsing but i want a hd 16:9 10 inch tablet for watching my tivo hd mpeg2 videos on. It seems to me if i can find a tf101 for around or under $100. This may be a great value for that. Even though ill only be using the tablet to watch my own videos i dont believe there are video playing tablets like the old archos that would be any cheaper and have such a high quality ips screen as the tf101? So when looking on ebay for tf101's do i need ro ask the buyer anything so i know its compasible with android?
Pretty much, make sure it is a TF101 and that it is in good condition/boots.
I would HIGHLY recommend you research rooting it and installing Android 4.2 or Android 4.3 (stock is still on 4.0.3 and probably will be forever). It plays 720p videos perfeclty smoothly with MX Player. The only issue I have had is mkv files with DTS encoded audio. I am not sure about the TiVo files, but I would doubt they have DTS audio in them by default.
I had previously bought and returned tf700 because playback was choppy when playing my mpeg2 1080i video's. This is the format my videos are in and i dont want to re encode. I was also only getting 2 hr's. Battery life while watching my mpeg2's. Does that sound right? Ipickf i was to root and overclock would it make video playback much smoother? If so and im on ebay looking for tf700, do i need to ask anything to know its android compatible?
That doesn't sound right to me at least. Tegra 3 should support MPEG2 just fine (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28677759), but I can't say for sure because most of my movies are encoded in H.264. If you have a sample video, I would gladly give it a double check. Btw, just to be thorough, what player did you use? Did you play your videos with hardware acceleration? You will definitely drain your battery faster if you use software decoders to play videos (using the CPU) instead of hardware decoder (offloading the task to GPU).
As far as i know mpeg2 does not support hw acceleration. i use mx player. Basically im looking for a 10 inch display for the cheapest i can find that can handle my 1080i mpeg's, taken from TiVo. I thought tf700 might fit the bill?
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As far as i know mpeg2 does not support hw acceleration. i use mx player. Basically im looking for a 10 inch display for the cheapest i can find that can handle my 1080i mpeg's, taken from TiVo. I thought tf700 might fit the bill?
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If you look at Tegra 3's spec sheet on Nvidia website, it is stated that Tegra 3 fully support MPEG-2 decoding, so I don't think what you say is true. Regardless, why don't you provide a sample video or at least other information regarding your videos like bit rates, formats, profiles, etc...? And btw, MX Player has its own decoder called "H/W+", have you tried it? You should also give Dice Player and BS Player a try if you haven't.
If all else fails, just get a Nexus 10, people have played really high bit-rate videos on the Nexus 10 that far exceed any videos you encounter normally.
hello there. Is ASUS tf 101 capable of streaming games (using limelight for example) smoothly? I'm thinking to buy a IPEGA 9023 controller since it can fit Asus tf 101 perfectly,but I wonder if Asus tf 101 itself is good enough to stream games. since I upgraded into katkiss 4.4.3 I have been having issues with youtube videos (lag) so maybe it's not strong enough to stream games?
Short answer is no.
I tried using mine for this purpose and it's far from being decent, even at 720p @30fps. The decoding delay is about 400ms on top of a lot of stuttering and dropped frames/packets. It's impossible to play any action games. Not sure why or if it can be improved, but sadly it does not work well.
As a comparison, my nexus 4 can handle [email protected] fps fine and can somewhat do [email protected], going to 60fps it cannot keep up either. You also need a serious router to handle it as well, 5GHz band and very close to it.