[Q] Does Wiping and Flashing Have Negative Effects on Phone? - HTC One S

Hello XDA,
This is just a general question, but I do a lot of flashing and installing new ROMs. I was wondering if there are any negative effects on device performance or general health due to flashing and wiping? Does it slow the phone down or mess up internal storage if you do so?
Cheers,
ccrama

ccrama said:
Hello XDA,
This is just a general question, but I do a lot of flashing and installing new ROMs. I was wondering if there are any negative effects on device performance or general health due to flashing and wiping? Does it slow the phone down or mess up internal storage if you do so?
Cheers,
ccrama
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Nope.. in fact I would say if anything it speeds it up. None of us would know because we don't keep a rom on for like a year to see if it becomes corrupt and slow. lol
No one keeps a phone more than 2 years anymore and by then the battery is shot, so abuse the heck out of it.

tivofool said:
Nope.. in fact I would say if anything it speeds it up. None of us would know because we don't keep a rom on for like a year to see if it becomes corrupt and slow. lol
No one keeps a phone more than 2 years anymore and by then the battery is shot, so abuse the heck out of it.
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I couldn't agree with your second statement my friend.. in fact, i'm still using my wildfire for more than 3 years now, and it still doesn't fail on me.. i just use it as a backup phone but it's still fast with common tasks i use it with..
To answer the OP, no, wiping and/or flashing custom roms/kernels will not have an impact on your phone's performance over time. Just be sure to wipe all that has to be wiped before jumping from rom to rom and/or kernel to kernel. And also, be sure to read all the instructions and description before you flash any mod, make sure and double check if it is really compatible with the rom you are on. :thumbup:
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1. My friend is using a 3 year old HTC desire on the original battery that's still working good.
2. He is also on the 3 year old stock 2.2 ROM which is just starting to slow down after almost 3 years without any factory wipe.
3. I think that there may be more stress on some of the hardware if you do lots of flashing. I wouldn't want to flash a new ROM every day or even every week. Once a month or two is probably OK though. I could be wrong but can anyone really prove either way?
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Keep in mind Nand flash does not have eternal life.
But thats with everything that get used alot.
I flash alot, never had problems, on multiple devices.
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Alright, thanks guys! I will flash away then

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black bar on top ...

has anyone created just a black status bar? I really don't want to install any ROMS at the moment (I am rooted).
Thanks!
It looks nice, I'm waiting for the unrooted CM7 or whatever, I'm rooted but afraid to download any ROMs
Mikeglongo said:
It looks nice, I'm waiting for the unrooted CM7 or whatever, I'm rooted but afraid to download any ROMs
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1. Cm7 is rooted.
2. Why would you be scared?
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I thought the new cm7 comes out for unrooted users instead of having to go ito ROM manager and what-not to get it?
And that's why I'm worried... I'm not really that tech-savvy with this stuff, so I'm hesitant on installing anything.. don't want to brick my phone
Someone will write a updated for the framework-res soon enough. I wonder how it will look with lcd bleeding.
Why flash an entire custom rom for just a black status bar?
Mikeglongo said:
I thought the new cm7 comes out for unrooted users instead of having to go ito ROM manager and what-not to get it?
And that's why I'm worried... I'm not really that tech-savvy with this stuff, so I'm hesitant on installing anything.. don't want to brick my phone
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You have to be rooted to flash anything. Rom manager isnt ready yet, but clockwork recovery works just fine. And you cant brick a phone by flashing a rom.
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Mikeglongo said:
I thought the new cm7 comes out for unrooted users instead of having to go ito ROM manager and what-not to get it?
And that's why I'm worried... I'm not really that tech-savvy with this stuff, so I'm hesitant on installing anything.. don't want to brick my phone
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Honestly more people should be like you. If you're not comfortable doing the things you see on this forum like rooting, using a custom recovery and flashing roms it's best that you refrain from doing so. A lot of people mess stuff up and don't have enough knowledge to fix it, then panic and cause more problems for themselves.
I was extremely timid with my g1, but now 2 phones later I'm much more comfortable messing with this stuff. The best advice I can give is for you to just read all kinds of stuff on these forums until you get a good idea about what different things do and how they can help and/or hurt what you want to do with your phone, then decide for yourself if you want to proceed.
And yes, like the last poster said, CM is only available to root users. You might be thinking of Gingerbread (Android 2.3) which will be available to non-root users "soon" according to tmobile.
Hope this helps ya out man.
Thanks a lot guys, yes I used ROM manager and it didn't work and it got me stuck at the LG sign when rebooting, and I panicked, so I exchanged my phone.
Got a new one, rooted it for whatever reason - maybe just to freeze bloatware.
I'll just wait for the Gingerbread. I just hope it solves the battery problem? 0_o I'm a stickler for battery, so I need to know soon because I'll just return my phone and get a different one (possibly a blackberry since the battery was always good on my old one), just always wanted to adventure into a smartphone
smjfosho said:
You have to be rooted to flash anything. Rom manager isnt ready yet, but clockwork recovery works just fine. And you cant brick a phone by flashing a rom.
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actually u can brick a phone JUST by flashing a ROM...unlikely given some reasonable intelligence...but it does happen...radios...radios..radios...also...kernels...
I'd say the best method is to just wait for the Official Gingerbread update from LG.
Flashing roms is fun and easy but not everyone has to be a crackflasher. CM7 will never be available for unrooted phones as you have to be rooted to flash it.
The G2x is very new and ClockWorkMod recovery isn't even ready for prime time yet. I would hold off at least until CWM Recovery has a decent automated boot process for our phones.
As far as bleeding screens, you WILL be able to see it with the all black bar. I have 2 G2x's here which 1 I haven't returned yet and has a screen bleed. It is noticeable. I did conclude that the "Sense-themed" bar in Eaglesblood isn't noticeable because of the contrasting colors. So take that with some consideration.
Mikeglongo said:
Thanks a lot guys, yes I used ROM manager and it didn't work and it got me stuck at the LG sign when rebooting, and I panicked, so I exchanged my phone.
Got a new one, rooted it for whatever reason - maybe just to freeze bloatware.
I'll just wait for the Gingerbread. I just hope it solves the battery problem? 0_o I'm a stickler for battery, so I need to know soon because I'll just return my phone and get a different one (possibly a blackberry since the battery was always good on my old one), just always wanted to adventure into a smartphone
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Hahahahahahahhaha
avetny said:
Hahahahahahahhaha
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My thoughts exactly,
Aren't blackberries notorious for turning themselves on and off? Maybe that explains the battery life
Haha, real funny, no my blackberry never turned on and off

Never had a problem until the 2.3.4 update

I got my Nexus S the first day it came out back in December. I never suffered from any of the other complaints that many others have posted. All was good until I got the 2.3.4 update. Ever since 2.3.4 landed on my phone, I've started to become a victim to the notorious random reboot bug for the first time ever. I must have had at least 6 reboots occur in the middle of phone conversations & one or two random ones while I was not in the middle of a call. It's starting to piss me off. Anyone else have this issue since the update??
Are you rooted or just running 2.3.4 stock?
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I got my Nexus S the first day it came out back in December. I never suffered from any of the other complaints that many others have posted. All was good until I got the 2.3.4 update. Ever since 2.3.4 landed on my phone, I've started to become a victim to the notorious random reboot bug for the first time ever. I must have had at least 6 reboots occur in the middle of phone conversations & one or two random ones while I was not in the middle of a call. It's starting to piss me off. Anyone else have this issue since the update??
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having Nexus S for 2 weeks or so no restarts, call drops etc... running 2.3.4 GRJ22/KD1
obsanity said:
Are you rooted or just running 2.3.4 stock?
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I'm all stock. Never rooted yet.
Using a case?
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zephiK said:
Using a case?
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I used that Platinum case from Best Buy for the first couple months, but have since been going without one. Only thing I still got on my phone now is a Zagg screen protector.
Its odd that you're getting reboots :/ you can root and fix your problems by yourself
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Really? Hmmm I never really looked into rooting too much before & I definitely didn't know that it could resolve issues like mine. I might just have to look into rooting now, if no other advice or fix gets brought up. I'd prefer not to root, but I guess that's just because I've never done it before.
Would rooting by itself resolve my issues? Or would I need to do some additional steps like programing or something as well? (I have no experience with programing either)
MotorcycleKopp said:
Really? Hmmm I never really looked into rooting too much before & I definitely didn't know that it could resolve issues like mine. I might just have to look into rooting now, if no other advice or fix gets brought up. I'd prefer not to root, but I guess that's just because I've never done it before.
Would rooting by itself resolve my issues? Or would I need to do some additional steps like programing or something as well? (I have no experience with programing either)
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No. Rooting requires no programming knowledge at all. With a phone like the Nexus S, it's so easy to unlock. It's not a one-click as other phones but it doesn't require a exploit to root.
All rooting requires is a person to follow the instructions provided to them. The hardest part to the rooting process is installing the drivers for it. It's not that hard but people always get confused on installing the ADB drivers.
The biggest thing with rooting that would resolve your "rebooting" problem is flashing a more stable kernel. A lot of people (including myself) agree that Netarchy's 1.3.4 kernel is more stable than the stock kernel provided by Google. The only downside to rooting for you at this point is that you'll lose all of your data upon unlocking the bootloader. It is a security measure.
Good info. I appreciate it. Sounds like I need to start backing everything up & researching rooting and flashing kernels. Any good links or posts that you recommend on these topics?
MotorcycleKopp said:
Good info. I appreciate it. Sounds like I need to start backing everything up & researching rooting and flashing kernels. Any good links or posts that you recommend on these topics?
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Check out the stickied posts in Nexus S General. If you ever need help, I'm more than willing to help you out but at least give it a try out on your own but if there are any preliminary questions. I'm more than willing to answer them.
Kernels: no need to read up on them. Netarchy's 1.3.4 kernel is what you want. Hands down. Netarchy destroys the competition in terms of kernels for daily usage.
Trinity is the type for people who wants to maximize the most out of their phone but it can be heavily unstable for some people and focuses more on hardcore OCing and things like that.
Stock modded kernel: no thanks.
Netarchy offers the most features that you'd want. OC is there but its optional, its left at the stock clocks of 1.0 GHz. If you want more than that, you'd have to set it on your own.
Overall summary of the rooting process,
- Install ADB drivers / set up Android SDK
- Get it to detect your device
- fastboot oem unlock
- fastboot flash recovery whatevertherecovery.img is
- Go into recovery
- Flash away! (if you want to use stock ROM + root then just flash the su.zip in the stickied thread)
At most it'll take you roughly maybe 10 minutes to do? Maybe even less than that, it's really simple.

What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
EddyOS said:
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
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Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

My first flashing... (no trenchcoat involved)

So, I finally flashed a ROM onto my Atrix 2 for the first time the other day.
Synopsis
​Long story short the twitter app crashed my phone and threw it into a boot-loop, I did some research, quickly learned the in's-and-out's of flashing ROM's, flashed the stock-ROM for my device, fully updated my device, and became a better man for it...okay, well maybe not that last part!
The nitty-gritty
​What happened was I was trying to update my twitter when the app locked up after hitting the 'submit' button. I tried to force-close the program but to no avail. Then I had the bright idea of shutting down my phone. This is where the fun began.
After re-booting my phone, I discovered that it was stuck in a boot-loop. Now, my phone has been rooted for a little over a month. There were no issues that occurred after I rooted my phone up until that point. This is what leaves me to believe that Twitter corrupted some app data.
After this happened I took to the internet and scoured over forums (this one chief among them), articles, videos, and even asked a few fellow-android users here in the real world. Everywhere I looked lead me to this term I had feared up until this point: Flashing.
I understood that flashing a ROM was just like installing a new operating system. I had toyed around with Linux before just a bit and am savvy-ish when it comes to computers. However, I was so terrified of bricking my phone in trying to flash a new ROM onto it (I would have been track-phoning for around a year until my next manufacturer subsidy came out on my account.)
After discovering terms like deodexed, CM7, stock, AP Fastboot, RSD Lite, and hardware-key reset, I felt like I was finally able to attempt the flashing. The first few attempts failed as I didn't realize I didn't have enough battery life to sustain the flashing process.
After charging it up, I flashed the stock ROM onto my phone. The moment it went from the red M puddle screen to the dripping AT&T sphere, then onward to the ROM was a moment of pure joy (not to sound corny.) I felt like I had beat-the-system. A problem that would have forced others to return their phone to the store was a problem that I fixed myself.
Final Thought
​I know this is rather cinematic for it being a simple flash job on an android device. But, for me, this was quite exhilarating. I'm not comfortable flashing anything lower than full-release ROM's (beta and alpha ROM's are a bit beyond my scope right now.) But, I do look forward to testing out various full-release ROM's as they become available.
AscottW said:
So, I finally flashed a ROM onto my Atrix 2 for the first time the other day.
Synopsis
​Long story short the twitter app crashed my phone and threw it into a boot-loop, I did some research, quickly learned the in's-and-out's of flashing ROM's, flashed the stock-ROM for my device, fully updated my device, and became a better man for it...okay, well maybe not that last part!
The nitty-gritty
​What happened was I was trying to update my twitter when the app locked up after hitting the 'submit' button. I tried to force-close the program but to no avail. Then I had the bright idea of shutting down my phone. This is where the fun began.
After re-booting my phone, I discovered that it was stuck in a boot-loop. Now, my phone has been rooted for a little over a month. There were no issues that occurred after I rooted my phone up until that point. This is what leaves me to believe that Twitter corrupted some app data.
After this happened I took to the internet and scoured over forums (this one chief among them), articles, videos, and even asked a few fellow-android users here in the real world. Everywhere I looked lead me to this term I had feared up until this point: Flashing.
I understood that flashing a ROM was just like installing a new operating system. I had toyed around with Linux before just a bit and am savvy-ish when it comes to computers. However, I was so terrified of bricking my phone in trying to flash a new ROM onto it (I would have been track-phoning for around a year until my next manufacturer subsidy came out on my account.)
After discovering terms like deodexed, CM7, stock, AP Fastboot, RSD Lite, and hardware-key reset, I felt like I was finally able to attempt the flashing. The first few attempts failed as I didn't realize I didn't have enough battery life to sustain the flashing process.
After charging it up, I flashed the stock ROM onto my phone. The moment it went from the red M puddle screen to the dripping AT&T sphere, then onward to the ROM was a moment of pure joy (not to sound corny.) I felt like I had beat-the-system. A problem that would have forced others to return their phone to the store was a problem that I fixed myself.
Final Thought
​I know this is rather cinematic for it being a simple flash job on an android device. But, for me, this was quite exhilarating. I'm not comfortable flashing anything lower than full-release ROM's (beta and alpha ROM's are a bit beyond my scope right now.) But, I do look forward to testing out various full-release ROM's as they become available.
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In all technicality all you're doing when flashing a rom (at least now) is installing some tweaked files such as build.prop or some tweaked system files for themes. By no means is it a new OS. But once a main kernel Dec finished up with a CM7 kernel we should be able to flash a custom kernel which is the meat of what really runs your phone. Really the stuff we can do right now only really have to do withtl the UI.
But anyways welcome to the world of android development!
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Congrats on flashing your first ROM . Sorry to hear it didn't completely work out for your. Quick question: did you wipe the Dalvik Cache as part of the flashing process?
By the way, most of the ROMs labeled "beta" are pretty stable. If a ROM has had more than a few updates and it's still in beta, it's mostly because the developer is either planning on adding more features for the full release or is a perfectionist
Well, as you can tell it's a sharp learning curve. But welcome to the world of Android hacking/modding/whateveryoucallit, and happy flashing
wait, are you telling me that there are actually people who do research before complaining about some little thing they don't know how to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?
FINALLY
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LOL.. good story/nice read.. Welcome!
I would say it worked out pretty well. I will probably flash a custom ROM later on this week. I will also keep reading up on the whole process and the it's and out's.
I cleared both user data and the dalvik cache as well. Pretty much at that point I was desperate. Lolz
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wait, are you telling me that there are actually people who do research before complaining about some little thing they don't know how to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?
FINALLY
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Hahaha.. Well, with this involving my phone (for which I don't have the hundreds of dollars to buy one outside the manufacturers subsidy) I wanted to make sure I was doing things right.
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I would say it worked out pretty well. I will probably flash a custom ROM later on this week. I will also keep reading up on the whole process and the it's and out's.
I cleared both user data and the dalvik cache as well. Pretty much at that point I was desperate. Lolz
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its really easy, so you should go ahead, the roms we have are way better than stock. Lithium is y favorite right now.
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LOL.. good story/nice read.. Welcome!
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Glad you enjoyed it! I am happy that my twitter app decided to crash, now.
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Hahaha.. Well, with this involving my phone (for which I don't have the hundreds of dollars to buy one outside the manufacturers subsidy) I wanted to make sure I was doing things right.
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I second that.. better to take your time to research, and do things right the first time...
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its really easy, so you should go ahead, the roms we have are way better than stock. Lithium is y favorite right now.
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^Total opinion about stock and custom... I'm on stock/odex/modded/tweaked with some bells and whistles... nice, responsive, and stable..
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alteredlikeness said:
^Total opinion about stock and custom... I'm on stock/odex/modded/tweaked with some bells and whistles... nice, responsive, and stable..
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I agree. Spent this weekend working on the Stock 2.3.6 rooted/odexed. Added the Superv6, and other mods, hotspot wifi fix, removed bloat. Definitely more fun this way. Then again I had a buttload of practice on my original ATRIX.
And thank god for the bootstrap and FXZ !!!!
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And thank god for the bootstrap and FXZ !!!!
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Yes without that I would of had an expensive paperweight to many times
dicksteele said:
I agree. Spent this weekend working on the Stock 2.3.6 rooted/odexed. Added the Superv6, and other mods, hotspot wifi fix, removed bloat. Definitely more fun this way. Then again I had a buttload of practice on my original ATRIX.
And thank god for the bootstrap and FXZ !!!!
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How exactly do I identify bloatware? I have two programs to do that Titanium backup and Rom Manager as well as a few 3p uninstallers. However, I never know exactly what to delete?
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How exactly do I identify bloatware? I have two programs to do that Titanium backup and Rom Manager as well as a few 3p uninstallers. However, I never know exactly what to delete?
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DON'T ever delete any programs. It is better to use something like bloat freezer, and freeze these apps, than to delete them.
The updates check for missing "bloatware" and will fail to install the updates due to ANY missing apps, that came with the stock image.
If you want a debloated image, then use one of the more custom ROMS like lithium, or Supercharged, etc.
If you use a debloated ROM, then you can always flash the fxz back before any updates come out, we tend to start screaming pretty load on here when updates start to arrive as you may have already seen this week with the ICS leaks.
P.S. It is VERY hard to hardbrick this phone, it took me killing the signature on the kernel to get my first hardbrick, and I have had 3 more hardbricks. I have the warranty through att, so I never worry about things like that, since I am a dev and take my phones life into my own hands, and ATT always has exchanged my phone on the spot for over 12 years now.... You can softbrick (bootloop), but that is an easy fix with the FXZ (lifesaver). So not too much to worry about hurting your phone with flashing...
jimbridgman said:
DON'T ever delete any programs. It is better to use something like bloat freezer, and freeze these apps, than to delete them.
The updates check for missing "bloatware" and will fail to install the updates due to ANY missing apps, that came with the stock image.
If you want a debloated image, then use one of the more custom ROMS like lithium, or Supercharged, etc.
If you use a debloated ROM, then you can always flash the fxz back before any updates come out, we tend to start screaming pretty load on here when updates start to arrive as you may have already seen this week with the ICS leaks.
P.S. It is VERY hard to hardbrick this phone, it took me killing the signature on the kernel to get my first hardbrick, and I have 3 more hardbricks. I have the warranty through att, so I never worry about things like that, since I am a dev and take my phones life into my own hands.... You can softbrick (bootloop), but that is an easy fix with the FXZ (lifesaver). So not too much to worry about hurting your phone with flashing...
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LOL, I was laughing so hard when XDA crashed last night. I was sure we caused it with our ICS Freak out!!!!
lkrasner said:
LOL, I was laughing so hard when XDA crashed last night. I was sure we caused it with our ICS Freak out!!!!
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I though the same thing, and I was kind of glad it did crash though, so that I could find that article with the interview of cyanogen that was posted on the XDA-dev home page.
AscottW, I am like you -I read and researched and forum'd my evening/early morning hours away with regards to the whole rooting and flashing and so on. I have never done such things with a phone before, but being fairly computer savvy myself felt like after several hard weeks learning as much as I could, flashed MY first ROM. (Did a little happy dance myself when I saw the custom boot animation for the first time, think I even let out a little school boy squeal as well! -Glad no one was around to hear that)
Still reading and researching and forum'ing at every free moment I have (girlfriend and kids think my laptop has become permanently attached to my, well... lap!) and am really interested in possibly getting myself to a point where I can be of some usefulness in the dev world.
Admittedly, after flashing for the first time, I got foolish with CWM and did basically what seemed like deleting the system partition and told the Android OS to get lost. Big mistake. Got stuck in a crazy splash screen loop and wouldn't load Android OS for the life of me. That said, with the help of the good people here on this forum, I was able to be walked through a AP Fastboot FXZ file fix, updated back to 2.3.6, and started over -making damn sure I knew what I was doing before doing ANYTHING! lol
Feel like: "I just had sex"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o
PhoenixNghi said:
Feel like: "I just had sex"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o
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lol @ this!

2.20, breathe of fresh air.

I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
Sigh.
While I found myself telling my girlfriend this yesterday, how it was nice to not be worried about updating my rom every night and trying out multiple kernels and all that, but in reality I am just in denial and craving so bad for it I have to think negative to even survive P)
I have had the phone 3 days and LOVE it but without root IDK how long I can stand it. Thinking about trading for a S3 just for root and there are no other good alternatives.
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I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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Enjoying smooth stable experience with great battery life and no FCs here too.
Running ViperXL 1.2.4 FWIW.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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I agree with this. I thought the stock software was decent enough to live with, the major exception being the Linkify crap. The battery life was so so at first (on 1.73 and 1.85) but when I flashed CleanROM the battery life improved greatly. I'm not sure if it was due to the jump in the base code or if it's ROM tweaks but its much nicer now.
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I felt the same, I was never able to get the same flawless, smooth experience I had with the 2.20 stock HOX with any of the ROMS/Kernel combinations found in this forum. And since I really like stock but been able to tweak, I moved back to the GS3, I forgot how nice and smooth it is...
That's odd ... I have random reboots on 2.20. I am currently using it unlocked on T-mobile.
i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
I just got my HTC One X, w/ 2.20. Kinda made me mad cause I bought it for root/rom and turns out I got a HTC thats too new.
When I first got the phone I was on 1.85. I didn't root though. I was enjoy the stock experience and I thought if I ever did want to root I always could. Until 2.20 happened. I feel like they took away the freedom I had so now the second a root method comes I'm rooting to CM10 and never looking back.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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randong said:
What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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Hey no biggie , I'm not here to twist your arm ..and your opinion is well noted, I actually prefer that community over xda..and my post count shows that since I have quadruple the amounts of post there than I do here ..
Well if ya ever change your mind and want something.different then by all means we'll be there
Have a good day
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I don't have any issues running the latest CleanROM. Better, smoother, ad-free, Custom Kernel that saves me tons of battery. Stock 2.20 is a waste.
DvineLord said:
i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
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You can't remove it with root explorer?
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