I was running venom xl and I'm now running clean rom and I'm experiencing the same behavior in both roms. I wonder if it's a hardware issue or if anyone else was having the same problem. I leave the phone on it's charger during the day while I'm at work. idle drain seems to be fine for most of the time but sometimes when I reset the phone, whats in the photo is what happens.
any ideas? additional clarification needed? I don't think I use the phone much. I might spend 30 minutes on YouTube watching videos during lunch on my lte connection (which on average takes about 15 to 20% battery) but I don't use the phone except for lightly for emails and occasionally social networks.
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xybur said:
I was running venom xl and I'm now running clean rom and I'm experiencing the same behavior in both roms. I wonder if it's a hardware issue or if anyone else was having the same problem. I leave the phone on it's charger during the day while I'm at work. idle drain seems to be fine for most of the time but sometimes when I reset the phone, whats in the photo is what happens.
any ideas? additional clarification needed? I don't think I use the phone much. I might spend 30 minutes on YouTube watching videos during lunch on my lte connection (which on average takes about 15 to 20% battery) but I don't use the phone except for lightly for emails and occasionally social networks.
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Use BetterBatteryStats to investigate whether you're getting some kind of wakelock.
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Use BetterBatteryStats to investigate whether you're getting some kind of wakelock.
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No wakelocks as far as i can tell.
I'm more concerned about the loss of battery suddenly after restarting the phone, which is why I posted the photo. As you can see, after restarting (the valley in the graph), I "lost" 8% of my charge.
Another weird occurence happened the other day. I had about 20% or so, I was listening to music, and the phone decided to just go from 20 to 10 to off in the span of about 45 seconds. I saw as the battery nose dived and killed itself.
I'm beginning to wonder if my battery cells are dying or are incorrectly reporting a charge to the point where the phone dies while thinking it has more charge than it actually does. Thats why I'm looking for people who may have had the same thing happen to them.
It's not uncommon for the battery meter to lose up to 10% during some reboots. It's also not uncommon for the battery to die more rapidly when it is close to losing charge. It's important to remember that even when we have battery increments of 1% it's not exact, it's only an estimation of the level of your battery. Your battery may not be in very good health, it all depends on what kind of usage it has endured during its lifespan. The more times you discharge this kind of battery fully or close to zero, the faster it is going to degrade. It's more healthy for the battery to receive top-up charges from about ~40% or so.
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A "jump" down after a reboot may just be a metering error that is fixing itself. I would think a steady (but faster than normal) decline in battery level to possibly indicate a failing battery. But a vertical (or nearly so) is probably just a metering error. I've seen this happen once or twice on my phone, and everything seems fine with the battery. It just seems like a fluke.
As mentioned, battery metering is far from accurate. It shouldn't be taken for granted that 1% increments, or even close to that are accurate.
Battery life (and whether yours is failing or not) is a very difficult thing to compare, as it depends greatly on how you use your phone, and reception in your area. But the drainage you described, for watching YouTube on LTE (pretty power intensive activity) seems pretty normal to me.
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OK people i know the Inspire has bad battery life, but this is ridiculous
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I think this is crazy
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I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).
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I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).
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I think what he's trying to point out is at 4 and a half minutes he's still at 100%, at 9 minutes he's down to 99%, at 13 minutes he's down to 98%, at 35 minutes he's down to 95% - and I think he's saying he expects his battery to be a lot better than this.
If you're checking your battery drain that often, I expect your screen was on a good percentage of that time, and yes, Display will use a good % of your battery. Look at your Battery Use, what's eating the most battery?
Oh, I wasn't looking at the battery icon. And now the other image shows up. I thought maybe that last one showed a huge drop. That would have indicated a bad battery.
homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.
My problem is this, i leave my phone charge over night and when i get up in the morning i disconnect my charger.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger no more then 1 to 2 minutes i already lost 1% within 1 to 2 minutes of disconnecting the charger yes i understand if i keep checking it it will lose battery.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger i light up a cigarette and then go to my text messages, like i said 1 minute still smoking my cigarette it is already at 99% before i even open my text messages
this battery sucks big time, i had a MT4G and i have way better battery then this
Speaking of MT4G i am going to put it up for sale in the Sales section.
have a bunch of extras for it
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homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.
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You might try battery monitor widget pro from the market. It will give you a nice graph of battery usage over time.
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You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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This is true too. Play around with different radio/ril combinations, letting them settle in for a day or two before testing and see if you get any better results
Well moved from LeDroid to Virtuous Unity and battery looks a whole lot better and so does my wifi signal.
I have installed the Battery Monitor Widget so we will see what kind of results i get with it.
PS i am also using a Slim Extended Battery from Anker 1600mAh
had one with my MT4G with 1700mAh and it ran great
Your screen takes a lot out of the battery, end of story, not much you can do. I agree the battery life you originally posted was nutty. I had the same thing when I first starting using Coredroid. These links helped me knock out some of the other high battery drain issues and since haven't had too many problems..I do these anytime I flash a new rom and battery life has not been an issue. Hope everything on the new rom works out man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808932
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
I am still scratching my head. What is so wrong with the pics above? I don't dee it. Everything looks normal. Last pic shows 95% and awake time of 21:43. Do the math and that is over 400 minutes of wake time on a battery charge. Not to mention that you were doing something on your phone as you did switch wifi on for the last 20 minutes between pics.
You can't measure your gas mileage in a car by only driving 30 miles nor can you on your phone in only 30 minutes on a battery that probably isn't perfectly calibrated for the phone anyways.
Hello there everyone.
I used to have a blackberry phone in the past and my battery life sucked.
I've been out of work recently and I noticed that I charge my phone quite often daily. I've had this phone for about 4 months now. In the past, since I'm either in the office or trying to catch some sleep, I get by with one charge a day. But now I can barely last 5 hours with a charge. Granted that I seem to be holding my phone always and always doing something with it every time that I'm awake.
Let's just segue a bit with my Blackberry experience since this might be affecting my mentality a bit.
I used to have a bb 9630 and that phone literally won't last through a work day without me plunging it in my office computer mid work day.
So now we come back to my Xperia Pro.
This is a screen shot that I took just now.
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I have been on YouTube for at least 3 hours straight before I took this.
Is this normal consumption? I mean, does watching videos on YouTube for 3 hours drains your battery that drastically?
I really have a bad sense of estimating things so I really can't tell if that's normal or not.
Although when I unplugged my phone and didn't use it for 55 minutes, my battery still went down like 3-4 percent.
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Many times the manufacturer will provide a crappy battery because they are cheap. One easy fix to a battery drain issue is upgrade the battery. MAh's (milliamp hours) are what you look for with a battery upgrade. Most batteries will specify the mAh value (common figures are 1200mAh, 1350mAh, 1500mAh etc) but basically the higher the mAh value, the longer the battery should last between charges.
Online auction sites and stores are an easy way to obtain one. I upgraded this phone battery from the stock battery, got one with 350 more mAh and the device will now last 2-3 hours longer with the same software.
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guitarman2010 said:
Many times the manufacturer will provide a crappy battery because they are cheap. One easy fix to a battery drain issue is upgrade the battery. MAh's (milliamp hours) are what you look for with a battery upgrade. Most batteries will specify the mAh value (common figures are 1200mAh, 1350mAh, 1500mAh etc) but basically the higher the mAh value, the longer the battery should last between charges.
Online auction sites and stores are an easy way to obtain one. I upgraded this phone battery from the stock battery, got one with 350 more mAh and the device will now last 2-3 hours longer with the same software.
Press Thanks if this helped!
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I'm kinda a bit hesitant with using a non-manufacturer battery. And it is really hard to get a hold of in our country. Most of those auction sites won't ship internally.
I guess what I just want to know is if my usage reflects my battery consumption without any anomaly.
And another question, is that media server thing caused by youtube or was it because I have a live wallpaper activated?
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Well the live wallpaper doesn't help battery life either, but you probably have your screen too bright, and watching youtube videos means you probably have the screen on 100% of the time, takes a crapload of power as well. I would definitely find out what the media server is though.
Hello,
when youre watching Youtube Videos on your Smartphone,
your battery drains very fast.
3-4 hours of screen on time is normal for the Samsung Galaxy S3 - obviously, a different device - but it doesn't exactly sound like a shocking figure to me that you're at 44% after 3 hours of YouTube. The fact that you have so much battery left AFTER watching video for 3 hours straight is very good and wouldn't call that drastic at all. I would call that good battery life.
3-4% an hour when not in use is probably due to having lots of apps constantly waking the device or having them use GPS, et cetera. You can use something like BetterBatteryStats to determine what's doing it if you're not sure.
Thanks for all the reply. I'll follow your advice and see what happens.
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Running Stock ICS 4.1.2 on Nexus S i9020A on AT&T US.
The battery was fine till about a few months back, but of late, it is draining @ around 8-10% per hour on standby!. I originally thought JB was causing the drain, and switched to ICS, and finally to GB. But the drain is consistent across all three.
There is also accelerated battery drain if my phone is completely switched off. If I leave the battery in the phone after powering off, the battery goes from 100 - 0 in less than 4 hours. Thinking the battery might have gone bad, I bought another oem battery, but that is exhibiting the same behavior.
This leads me to think there might be a hardware issue with my phone. I am tired of keeping the phone plugged in at all times, and am ready to throw this out the window and get another phone. As a last ditch effort, I wanted to post this here to see if I can get any kind of feedback/confirmation on this before I buy another phone. Other users are reporting 1-2% battery drain on standby, so 8-10% drain is unacceptable by any standard.
I have attached some screenshots from today when the battery was at 20% after about 9 hours. For this test, I did the following last night:
1. uninstalled all apps I downloaded
2. turned off WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, sync, auto brightness ( set to the minimum brightness)
I charged the phone fully, and then left it on standby, with minimal usage - I think I made a 2 minute call, checked my email once, and read some rss feeds for about 5 minutes in the 9 hours I tested it.
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Any help would be much appreciated.
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I know I'm not giving any advice here but I just wanted to let you know I'm in the same boat. No matter what ROM GB/ICS/JB I lose too much battery per hour with the phone just on standby. There's no explanation for %10 battery drain per hour with pretty much everything off (wifi, data, gps, nfc, background data, etc)
I have tried everything and now I must admit I've given up. I'm just going to ride out CM 10.1 until I can decide on a new phone, most likely the Nexus 4 or HTC One.
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I know I'm not giving any advice here but I just wanted to let you know I'm in the same boat. No matter what ROM GB/ICS/JB I lose too much battery per hour with the phone just on standby. There's no explanation for %10 battery drain per hour with pretty much everything off (wifi, data, gps, nfc, background data, etc)
I have tried everything and now I must admit I've given up. I'm just going to ride out CM 10.1 until I can decide on a new phone, most likely the Nexus 4 or HTC One.
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Bro, just replace the battery, buy a new one!
Doesn't seem like a software issue to me, sadly.
That confirms my suspicion. I guess it is time to start looking for a new phone. Thanks!
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Doesn't seem like a software issue to me, sadly.
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kandroid said:
That confirms my suspicion. I guess it is time to start looking for a new phone. Thanks!
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Yeah, your phone doesn't seem to be doing much while asleep. 20 minutes screen on, 35 minutes active, yet battery down to 21%. My battery would be at 90% with that sort of usage. Since you changed the battery (I'll assume it's a decent quality battery, although a cheap battery could be in cause), there's not much left.
Have you tried switching 3G off? 3G seems to SUCK the life out of these Nexus S batteries like no tomorrow.
But I suspect it's a hardware issue with the Nexus S phones. I have WiFi, Bluetooth, 3G and auto-sync all shut off and a static wallpaper and I will lose 20% of my battery in 7-8 hours.
Battery is kernel related. Try changing your I/o scheduler to row and governor to smartassv2. If you don't have those options then look for a kernel that does...air kernel and matrix should suffice.
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A friend was having the same issue, gave him the battery of my nexus s ... it lasted him for 7-8hrs max whereas it gives me 1 day~ on 2G and normal use without gaimng . So my guess like his mobile your mobile may have some component which is short and draining out the battery . I have been trying to look around for answer but so far no luck. So better check it with another batteryif you can before purchasing a new one.
Vampire test
If anyone is investigating why their Nexus S suddenly starts draining the battery in a matter of hours, BEFORE spending a ton of time (like I did) trying to diagnose what software problem you might have, do the vampire test, as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42586314
I wasted days before coming across this test on this forum, and it proved it had to be a hardware fault.
I have two healthy batteries, both hold a charge for days (probably weeks) when not inserted in the phone, but pop one in the phone, leave it powered off, and within 6 hrs it's dead. So frustrating, and sad to see this phone go.
Hi, Is there any full proof method of fixing my phone battery so it shuts off at 0%?
My bacon shuts down at 8% - 4% usually.
and when it does shut down it blacks out. I don't get that pop up with a spinning circle saying you're phone is not shutting off.
Well, unless thats how the OPO shuts off by just immediately blacking out?
I checked to see if it was because my undervolt, so i brought back the voltages to stock, and unfortunately, the problem still remained.
I know you arent suppose to run these batteries dry, but it just irritates me that it would shut down at the 8% mark.
So any suggestions and fixes would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
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I know you arent suppose to run these batteries dry.....
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If you know that, then why the hell would you want to do it just so that you damage the non-replacable battery and potentially leave yourself with a brick?
robbieast said:
Hi, Is there any full proof method of fixing my phone battery so it shuts off at 0%?
My bacon shuts down at 8% - 4% usually.
and when it does shut down it blacks out. I don't get that pop up with a spinning circle saying you're phone is not shutting off.
Well, unless thats how the OPO shuts off by just immediately blacking out?
I checked to see if it was because my undervolt, so i brought back the voltages to stock, and unfortunately, the problem still remained.
I know you arent suppose to run these batteries dry, but it just irritates me that it would shut down at the 8% mark.
So any suggestions and fixes would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
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The battery percentage displayed on your phone isn't exact, not at all, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level it's detecting at the battery. So if your phone shuts down at 4% it really isn't a big deal. If it's bugging you so much you can use a battery calibration app from the Play Store to try to re-calibrate the battery.
But, if you're letting the device get that low regularly, which it seems like you are, you're damaging the battery. You even admit that you're aware of this. So why do it? Running a lithium battery down regularly decreases its capacity, just like keeping it at peak voltage too much does too. So it's entirely possible that what you're experiencing is a symptom of your own bad battery usage behavior.
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If you know that, then why the hell would you want to do it just so that you damage the non-replacable battery and potentially leave yourself with a brick?
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Gee, I don't know
Maybe I like to see a full screen on time, testing kernels and roms?
or maybe, I didn't expect my phone to shut down at 8%, so I wanted to see if it wasn't just a one time thing because the unknown piques human curiosity
Maybe as a newer model phone, I'm putting some faith into solid build materials from the phone?
My nexus 4 has been run down many times naturally being at school or work and what not, and the battery still runs like a champ.
Useful sentiments here
My N5, running XtraSmooth + stock Google kernel recently started heating up a lot. Now I know its summer time and naturally it would tend to get hot, but my father's N5 is always very cool to the touch. Even in an air conditioned house running a stability test brought my N5 to temps as high as 86°, whilst the other N5 was just about hitting 50°. My battery gets notably hot too, and of course that hinders my battery life too. Does anyone know what's going on?
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My guess would be you have an app/process running full wack on your phone running up the CPU and draining battery. Look at battery stat screen maybe that will help. Try factory reset and run it empty for 30mins or so (no account no apps) then set up one account and app at a time.
Android malware/virii are on the rise, and I was hit with something that did this but did not show up on the battery monitor of any app.
I strongly suggest an immediate full wipe and clean flash, as well as changing your passwords if you truly want to be safe.
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My guess would be you have an app/process running full wack on your phone running up the CPU and draining battery. Look at battery stat screen maybe that will help. Try factory reset and run it empty for 30mins or so (no account no apps) then set up one account and app at a time.
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Hey, I tried that earlier today but to no avail, battery stats look normal, Facebook is the only third party app that uses battery, but only 2% at that too. It's only kept the phone awake for 50s, and CPU total is 2m so it doesn't look like its Facebook, but my battery still idles at 40-45°. I wiped and started again from scratch but first I let the phone set for 2 hours to let ART finish carrying out any optimisations so the phone could cool down and perform optimally. Antutus stress test still ramped my CPU all the way to 80° whilst the other N5 hit 71° this time around, it quickly went back down and cooled off quickly yet my Nexus took forever.
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Mines stared to do it too I'm on stock and ElementalX. I've hit 85°C and as it's still rising turned it off. I've seen a few reports of this. I've no idea what it is but suspect an app update. I've used greenfly and Amplify to lock everything down and it seems to work. Its at 52 and charging ATM. Until I did that I couldn't use the phone and charge at the same time
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Mines stared to do it too I'm on stock and ElementalX. I've hit 85°C and as it's still rising turned it off. I've seen a few reports of this. I've no idea what it is but suspect an app update. I've used greenfly and Amplify to lock everything down and it seems to work. Its at 52 and charging ATM. Until I did that I couldn't use the phone and charge at the same time
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I just changed ROMs altogether, even after wiping I was still getting ridiculous temperature gains, more worryingly so for my battery. I remembered during winter to keep the phone cool I added adhesive copper to the battery and CPU, I applied thermal paste and made the copper thicker, I also *removed* the copper from the battery, since during summer time it'll only make things worse. That seemed to have worked since my battery isn't anywhere near as hot anymore. The CPU still gets very hot - around 80° still, but it seems to level out much quicker than before.
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