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Question about PYD-X kernel & ViperS ROM

Did I need flash this boot.img every time when I flash ViperS rom?

[email protected] said:
Did I need flash this boot.img every time when I flash ViperS rom?
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Not really.. Some unknown issue is there in v 3/v 3.1 that's just a Workaround for the issue.. Pacha will fix that in the next version
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[Q] After Instaling Android REvolution HD 6.8.0 stuck at first HTC white screen

I installed Odexed 3.33.401.153 stock rom and then rooted, superwiped and after that installed [ROM] Android Revolution HD 6.8.0 |
with clockwork mod recovery and phone is stucked on first white htc screen why is that ???
revolutionary, S-off, Hboot 1.27.1100, Sensation xe
THX

ivanmadzarov said:
I installed Odexed 3.33.401.153 stock rom and then rooted, superwiped and after that installed [ROM] Android Revolution HD 6.8.0 |
with clockwork mod recovery and phone is stucked on first white htc screen why is that ???
revolutionary, S-off, Hboot 1.27.1100, Sensation xe
THX
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Did you check MD5 sums, it could be a bad flash. Also how long has it been stuck for? Anything above 15 mins is a bad flash
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Jonny said:
Did you check MD5 sums, it could be a bad flash. Also how long has it been stuck for? Anything above 15 mins is a bad flash
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it was longer then 15 mins i think, it's first white HTC screen, for any pther rom i tryed never stucked at this place...
i alredy installed maybe before 5 mins so i will wait a liitle if nothing hapened then i will take out battery and check md5 sum

change the recovery to 4EXT then flash ARHD ..iirc ARHD requires 4EXT recovery

ganeshp said:
change the recovery to 4EXT then flash ARHD ..iirc ARHD requires 4EXT recovery
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I think it's also possible to flash ARHD ROM with CWM. isn't it?

HaYaHa said:
I think it's also possible to flash ARHD ROM with CWM. isn't it?
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Well you already tried with cwm and seen the result .. Aren't you?
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HaYaHa said:
I think it's also possible to flash ARHD ROM with CWM. isn't it?
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It defaults everything to 1 value so you dont get the options - it doesnt use Aroma but uses an older and less elegant 4EXT interative menu solution. Defaulting some values could possibly cause bootloops

The problem was bad flashing, I checked md5 sum and they wasn't matching, so i downloaded again and installed it.
BTW Very good rom more then 7k on antutu benchmark, with vipers it was always less then 6.5k maybe it's becouse of faux kernel but it's great.
THANKS...

[Q] Stock Kernel with Vipers rom

hi guys, can i flash the ics stock Kernel: 3.0.16 with vipers rom 1.6.3 ? without bootloop ? and if i get a bootloop can i flash the stock boot.img to fix that or no?
i have tried all the kernels but i like to go back to the stock kernel with a custom rom, even if some features is not gonna work such as burst mode. or battery drin... im good with that.
i just wanna make sure they are compatible before i screw myself and format my phone again...
thanks:good:

salwansk said:
hi guys, can i flash the ics stock Kernel: 3.0.16 with vipers rom 1.6.3 ? without bootloop ? and if i get a bootloop can i flash the stock boot.img to fix that or no?
i have tried all the kernels but i like to go back to the stock kernel with a custom rom, even if some features is not gonna work such as burst mode. or battery drin... im good with that.
i just wanna make sure they are compatible before i screw myself and format my phone again...
thanks:good:
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My friend, Stock Kernel won't work with Viper ROM at all..u'll surely get bootloop..So dont try even..
Viper is the Pure port from HTC One S villeC2..HTC has never put Sense 4 for Sensation..So that makes no any sense to flash the ICS Stock kernel..
Use Bricked or Sebastian FM's Kernel..they are majorly depended on Stock kernel with modified some changes that can handle ICS sense 4.x
Sent from hunt's Sensation

hunt said:
My friend, Stock Kernel won't work with Viper ROM at all..u'll surely get bootloop..So dont try even..
Viper is the Pure port from HTC One S villeC2..HTC has never put Sense 4 for Sensation..So that makes no any sense to flash the ICS Stock kernel..
Use Bricked or Sebastian FM's Kernel..they are majorly depended on Stock kernel with modified some changes that can handle ICS sense 4.x
Sent from hunt's Sensation
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thanks alot for your explanation

salwansk said:
hi guys, can i flash the ics stock Kernel: 3.0.16 with vipers rom 1.6.3 ? without bootloop ? and if i get a bootloop can i flash the stock boot.img to fix that or no?
i have tried all the kernels but i like to go back to the stock kernel with a custom rom, even if some features is not gonna work such as burst mode. or battery drin... im good with that.
i just wanna make sure they are compatible before i screw myself and format my phone again...
thanks:good:
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hunt said:
My friend, Stock Kernel won't work with Viper ROM at all..u'll surely get bootloop..So dont try even..
Viper is the Pure port from HTC One S villeC2..HTC has never put Sense 4 for Sensation..So that makes no any sense to flash the ICS Stock kernel..
Use Bricked or Sebastian FM's Kernel..they are majorly depended on Stock kernel with modified some changes that can handle ICS sense 4.x
Sent from hunt's Sensation
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The stock kernel works with ViperS. First of all, all kernels for the Sensation are based off of the stock kernel source, so it will DEFINITELY work. Secondly, it doesn't matter if the ROM was ported from the HTC One S VILLEC2; there would only be a problem if ViperS was Jelly Bean, but it isn't, so the stock kernel will 100% work with ViperS. Thirdly, the kernel requires no modifications to run Sense 4.X; since I'm a kernel developer, I've looked at the sources of kernels like Bricked and PYD-X, and none of them have any modifications whatsoever specifically for Sense 4.X. Finally, Sebastian's kernel is based off of the stock kernel, and it works with all Sense ROMs, be it Sense 4.X or Sense 3.X, and Sebastian made no special modifications at all to achieve this.
That being said, go ahead and flash the stock kernel

android1234567 said:
The stock kernel works with ViperS. First of all, all kernels for the Sensation are based off of the stock kernel source, so it will DEFINITELY work. Secondly, it doesn't matter if the ROM was ported from the HTC One S VILLEC2; there would only be a problem if ViperS was Jelly Bean, but it isn't, so the stock kernel will 100% work with ViperS. Thirdly, the kernel requires no modifications to run Sense 4.X; since I'm a kernel developer, I've looked at the sources of kernels like Bricked and PYD-X, and none of them have any modifications whatsoever specifically for Sense 4.X. Finally, Sebastian's kernel is based off of the stock kernel, and it works with all Sense ROMs, be it Sense 4.X or Sense 3.X, and Sebastian made no special modifications at all to achieve this.
That being said, go ahead and flash the stock kernel
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Will WiFi/Bluetooth works in ViperS with Stock Kernel ?
Not a single developer has suggested or mentioned Stock Kernel in Sense 4.x based ROMs..at least I haven't seen any Sense 4.x ROM with Stock Kernel..!!!
No doubt ARHD and Sense 3.x base ROM uses Stock Kernel..!! But I'm preety much sure that in Sense 4.x based ROM, WiFi/BT or something will definitely get broke... :finger-crossed:
Sent from hunt's Sensation

hunt said:
Will WiFi/Bluetooth works in ViperS with Stock Kernel ?
Not a single developer has suggested or mentioned Stock Kernel in Sense 4.x based ROMs..at least I haven't seen any Sense 4.x ROM with Stock Kernel..!!!
No doubt ARHD and Sense 3.x base ROM uses Stock Kernel..!! But I'm preety much sure that in Sense 4.x based ROM, WiFi/BT or something will definitely get broke... :finger-crossed:
Sent from hunt's Sensation
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Nope, WiFi and Bluetooth will work. Salwansk, I have attached a flashable .zip of the stock HTC kernel at the bottom of this post. I got the kernel files from the HTC stock ROM .zip in the S-OFF guide located in the General section.

android1234567 said:
Nope, WiFi and Bluetooth will work. Salwansk, I have attached a flashable .zip of the stock HTC kernel at the bottom of this post. I got the kernel files from the HTC stock ROM .zip in the S-OFF guide located in the General section.
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I don't know but why nobody using stock Kernel with Sense 4 based ROM ?
This is just a thought of my mind...!!!
Why so ?
Sent from hunt's Sensation

hunt said:
I don't know but why nobody using stock Kernel with Sense 4 based ROM ?
This is just a thought of my mind...!!!
Why so ?
Sent from hunt's Sensation
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It's just a coincidence. Not many people like the stock kernel.

one reason can be camera's flash
what i mean
me personally i think it is annoying not able to use the flash when battery drops down to 30%
but with custom kernel(sebastianFM in my case) i can use the flash even when the battery percentage drops down until 10%
it could be a reason

Just flashed the HTC stock kernel posted above with Viper S 1.6.3. Its stuck on the htc sensation boot screen.

rhishavphukan said:
Just flashed the HTC stock kernel posted above with Viper S 1.6.3. Its stuck on the htc sensation boot screen.
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ಠ_ಠ
Maybe I packaged the .zip file incorrectly... Nope, I packaged it correctly.
Or it could be the same bootloop problem that PYD-X has. Extract the HTC-stock-kernel zip and flash the boot.img using fastboot.
It might have something to do with the ramdisk and not the kernel itself.
EDIT: I'll just remove the .zip I posted because it's not gonna work. I'll extract it from HyperNonSense this time instead of the stock system.
EDIT2: This is the stock kernel from HyperNonSense. HyperNonSense uses the stock HTC kernel but the dev probably modified the ramdisk to make it work. If this zip doesn't work then flash a boot.img from the ROM you're using by using fastboot, reboot, then flash this again.

rhishavphukan said:
Just flashed the HTC stock kernel posted above with Viper S 1.6.3. Its stuck on the htc sensation boot screen.
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This is what I was expected
android1234567 said:
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Maybe I packaged the .zip file incorrectly... Nope, I packaged it correctly.
Or it could be the same bootloop problem that PYD-X has. Extract the HTC-stock-kernel zip and flash the boot.img using fastboot.
It might have something to do with the ramdisk and not the kernel itself.
EDIT: I'll just remove the .zip I posted because it's not gonna work. I'll extract it from HyperNonSense this time instead of the stock system.
EDIT2: This is the stock kernel from HyperNonSense. HyperNonSense uses the stock HTC kernel but the dev probably modified the ramdisk to make it work. If this zip doesn't work then flash a boot.img from the ROM you're using by using fastboot, reboot, then flash this again.
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And after all, I was right.. Pure Stock kernel doesn't work with Sense 4.x

hunt said:
This is what I was expected
And after all, I was right.. Pure Stock kernel doesn't work with Sense 4.x
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No, Sense 4.X has absolutely nothing to do with it. It probably has something to do with the ramdisk. I'd be amazed if it actually had anything to do with Sense 4.X because Sebastian made no special changes to accommodate Sense 4.X (look at his commit history here: https://github.com/SebastianFM/HTC-Sensation-overclocked-kernel/commits/master)
UPDATE: HTC's stock kernel just doesn't want to boot up -_- OP, at this point you should just use SebastianFM's kernel because it's the closest thing to the stock HTC kernel. It might not be booting up because of Sense 4.X or some other reason; who knows. At this point it's just a waste of time to try flashing the stock HTC kernel on a Sense 4.X ROM. and it's a waste of time trying to make it work with a Sense 4.X ROM.

android1234567 said:
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Maybe I packaged the .zip file incorrectly... Nope, I packaged it correctly.
Or it could be the same bootloop problem that PYD-X has. Extract the HTC-stock-kernel zip and flash the boot.img using fastboot.
It might have something to do with the ramdisk and not the kernel itself.
EDIT: I'll just remove the .zip I posted because it's not gonna work. I'll extract it from HyperNonSense this time instead of the stock system.
EDIT2: This is the stock kernel from HyperNonSense. HyperNonSense uses the stock HTC kernel but the dev probably modified the ramdisk to make it work. If this zip doesn't work then flash a boot.img from the ROM you're using by using fastboot, reboot, then flash this again.
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Well you are the developer and understands all this. I just flash the mods what you guys create. All you developers work hard for our phones to be perfect, so all other members should help out. HATS OFF TO ALL DEVS

really noob question

hi all >>>>> thank you for the hard work but i just wanna ask you a question ..... does all sensation roms work with sensation xe ???!?!? i tried a couple but i get stuck at buut .... besides the over clocked kernel and some others arn't working .... can any one tell if there is something i'm not doing right ?!?!?

and all JB roms i try to flash dont boot ?!?!?!?

ahh988 said:
hi all >>>>> thank you for the hard work but i just wanna ask you a question ..... does all sensation roms work with sensation xe ???!?!? i tried a couple but i get stuck at buut .... besides the over clocked kernel and some others arn't working .... can any one tell if there is something i'm not doing right ?!?!?
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Hi,
You can use any of the ROMS in the Dev section HERE
What does your bootloader say?
Please post the contents here.

yes, both devices are actually the same.
and the reason no ROM is booting is probably coz you didn't update your Firmware to 3.32 or 3.33?
google is your friend with that.

arabology said:
yes, both devices are actually the same.
and the reason no ROM is booting is probably coz you didn't update your Firmware to 3.32 or 3.33?
google is your friend with that.
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Do you have S-OFF yet? I'havent had any problems with whichever rom, FW 3.32 and S-OFF via juopunutbear
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Do you have S-OFF yet? I'havent had any problems with whichever rom, FW 3.32 and S-OFF via juopunutbear...

sorry for the lack of detail .... i have s-on unlocked boot loader device with software version 3.33.707.151
i have CWM touch installed and i can xchange to ext4 recovery
i tried codenamelungo rom but i get stuck on bootscreen saying android
i tried darkforest it works but with out wifi no matter which kernel i use !!!!
my Hboot ver is 1.29.0000

ahh988 said:
sorry for the lack of detail .... i have s-on unlocked boot loader device with software version 3.33.707.151
i have CWM touch installed and i can xchange to ext4 recovery
i tried codenamelungo rom but i get stuck on bootscreen saying android
i tried darkforest it works but with out wifi no matter which kernel i use !!!!
my Hboot ver is 1.29.0000
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if you have 4ext recovery now do
format all partitions except sdcard from recovery
enable smartflash from recovery
flash the rom
if you still have issues with wifi then do extra 1 step from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861

thanx very much man i'll be trying that whenever i get the time to ......
does that have anything to do with some roms like ordroid not installing if i choose to do a superwipe ?!?!?!?

ahh988 said:
thanx very much man i'll be trying that whenever i get the time to ......
does that have anything to do with some roms like ordroid not installing if i choose to do a superwipe ?!?!?!?
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when switching from one rom to another it is better to do a full wipe and start clean:good:

Plus, most dev recommend being S-OFF. The wire trick method is not as scary as it seems, just take some time.

84Guzz said:
Plus, most dev recommend being S-OFF. The wire trick method is not as scary as it seems, just take some time.
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wire trick ??!?!? i didnt find that on my search .... seems like i haven't been looking hard enough ..
i'll go through the threads again
thanks for all the healp and support i managed to install a custom rom (darkforest sense)but some other roms like ordroid have wifi bugs and codename lungo still doesn't work....
and advice ?!?!?

ahh988 said:
wire trick ??!?!? i didnt find that on my search .... seems like i haven't been looking hard enough ..
i'll go through the threads again
thanks for all the healp and support i managed to install a custom rom (darkforest sense)but some other roms like ordroid have wifi bugs and codename lungo still doesn't work....
and advice ?!?!?
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Hi,
Look HERE

I installed a custom rom after all the good advice from you guy but I still have one issue ... Wireless worked only in darkforest rom (all kernels )
But any other rom I use (ordroid . Codenamelungo . Communisation) I can turn wireless on but no networks are detected ...
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thanksss guys

ahh988 said:
I installed a custom rom after all the good advice from you guy but I still have one issue ... Wireless worked only in darkforest rom (all kernels )
But any other rom I use (ordroid . Codenamelungo . Communisation) I can turn wireless on but no networks are detected ...
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda app-developers app
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Go back to stock kernel, have been using it on 5+ roms and never had any (big) problem. The 4.2.2 rom by Albinoman is particularly good. But you could also just use an ICS rom for the time being; kernel devs are working on ION (memory allocator) which will make JB roms and multitasking far better and stable.
Make sure you do a full wipe with 4ext before flashing a new rom.
Good luck!

Thanx every one for all the help ....

[Q] CHANGE CUSTOM ROMS S-on

Sorry if this has been already answered but i recently got my dad's htc sensation..yesterday night i unlocked bootloader...and with S ON flashed HD REVOLUTION 7.3 Rom
but i have doubts
1) can i use same method to install other roms like VIPER ?
2) Do i need to S off or i can continue with S on
3) which rom is best for multimedia like photos and music ?
4) How can i install JB ROM..do i follow same method as i did with HD revolution ??
Pardon me for my bad english

saint_diablo said:
Sorry if this has been already answered but i recently got my dad's htc sensation..yesterday night i unlocked bootloader...and with S ON flashed HD REVOLUTION 7.3 Rom
but i have doubts
1) can i use same method to install other roms like VIPER ?
2) Do i need to S off or i can continue with S on
3) which rom is best for multimedia like photos and music ?
4) How can i install JB ROM..do i follow same method as i did with HD revolution ??
Pardon me for my bad english
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Yes. You can flash any ROM based on same firmware without being S-Off. You can flash ViperS JB Rom with the same method. Just enable smartflash in the 4EXT recovery and if get stuck in bootloop. Flash boot.img via bootloader. Happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

MrJukeHardbane said:
Yes. You can flash any ROM based on same firmware without being S-Off. You can flash ViperS JB Rom with the same method. Just enable smartflash in the 4EXT recovery and if get stuck in bootloop. Flash boot.img via bootloader. Happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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Thanks a lot
what do u mean by SAME FIRMWARE ??
can i lash viper now ?
and which rom is best for music with equalizer ?

saint_diablo said:
Thanks a lot
what do u mean by SAME FIRMWARE ??
can i lash viper now ?
and which rom is best for music with equalizer ?
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If you're on 3.32 or 3.33 firmware then you can flash ViperS JB ROM. ViperS 3.1.2 does have some kickass music options and tweaks. I don't know which one is best but ViperS never disappointed me.

MrJukeHardbane said:
If you're on 3.32 or 3.33 firmware then you can flash ViperS JB ROM. ViperS 3.1.2 does have some kickass music options and tweaks. I don't know which one is best but ViperS never disappointed me.
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Thanks once again
and my last Question is how can i flash JB ?

Just enable smartflash in 4EXT and follow the earlier method.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE

saint_diablo said:
Thanks once again
and my last Question is how can i flash JB ?
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Just download the ROM zip and put in your SD card. Boot to recovery and enable smartflash. Wipe data and all partitions except Sd card and flash the zip from recovery. If you get stuck in bootloop then just extract the boot.img from the ROM zip and flash via fastboot. And before doing everything just make a nandroid backup.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

MrJukeHardbane said:
Just download the ROM zip and put in your SD card. Boot to recovery and enable smartflash. Wipe data and all partitions except Sd card and flash the zip from recovery. If you get stuck in bootloop then just extract the boot.img from the ROM zip and flash via fastboot. And before doing everything just make a nandroid backup.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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I am currently downloading ViperS 3.1.2 but no where in its forum have they mentioned about its firmware...!!
So how do i know that which ROMs i can flash on my sensation with S-ON having firmware 3.2 or 3.3 ?

saint_diablo said:
I am currently downloading ViperS 3.1.2 but no where in its forum have they mentioned about its firmware...!!
So how do i know that which ROMs i can flash on my sensation with S-ON having firmware 3.2 or 3.3 ?
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it doesn't matter if you are on S-ON or S-OFF
you can flash any ics or jb rom with 3.32 and 3.33 firmware version

which rom is easy on battery ?
Because HTC had very bad battery backup..HD REVOLUTION is good on battery !!

saint_diablo said:
which rom is easy on battery ?
Because HTC had very bad battery backup..HD REVOLUTION is good on battery !!
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it is always depending from your personal usage and what settings are you planing to do(min/max cpufreq,gpu overclock,undervoltage etc)
you have to see it by yourself and judge accordingly

do i need to download Kernel changer from ViperS rom thread ??
i have sebestian FM kernel !!
also i just use my sensation for calling and music...so i use it in min mode !!

saint_diablo said:
do i need to download Kernel changer from ViperS rom thread ??
i have sebestian FM kernel !!
also i just use my sensation for calling and music...so i use it in min mode !!
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viperS rom and every rom has kernel including in it
so when you flash the rom the kernel will be changed too
by the way specifically in viperS 3.1.2 rom only one kernel is compatible and it is the one including in the rom
no other kernel works with this rom

thanks a lot for Quick answers.
Can we expect any rom with Sense 5 ??
i suppose there is one under development but no ETA.

saint_diablo said:
thanks a lot for Quick answers.
Can we expect any rom with Sense 5 ??
i suppose there is one under development but no ETA.
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there is one under development by venom team
actually it is already ported to our device but there are a few bugs to get fixed

No ext4 but twrp
rzr86 said:
there is one under development by venom team
actually it is already ported to our device but there are a few bugs to get fixed
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I dont have ext4 but i've twrp for recovery. initially i'd 4ext but now its not working after twrp its saying for paying and trial is expired.
can i flash viperS with twrp recovery?

skmughal said:
I dont have ext4 but i've twrp for recovery. initially i'd 4ext but now its not working after twrp its saying for paying and trial is expired.
can i flash viperS with twrp recovery?
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yes you can
but after that flash the boot.img via fastboot command