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Hello all,
Wondering if you guys can help me decide whether to flash an ICS ROM or not?
I have my Skyrocket tweaked and set up perfectly. It contains...
Version: 2.3.5 (refuse to upgrade to 2.3.6 due to many issues I see some are having)
Kernel: 2.6.35.11+ (excellent "stock-ish" ROM from romracer)
Launcher: Go Launcher EX
Phone is rooted and like to use CWM.
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
Perhaps something that will work with the romracer kernel? For example, something that would still allow me to use CWM and MUST also support boot animations and BLN support. That is a must for me, as I use it to tweak my battery life quite a bit.
Anyways,
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--mike
No ics for you, then.
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None have fun with gb
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If you decide that you can live without the BLN and overclocking then make a nandroid and give smooth ice a try, skyics is also good I hear.
I've tried smooth ice for like a month almost and it is really stable and the battery was good too.
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If you do not have the heart for glitches, ICS may not serve you well. There is no real benefit that I can see unless you are a hardcore phone tweaker. I am always debating whether to just go back to stock GB myself !!!
BUT if you really have the itch, the safest is mhx's full bloat stock. I used that for a long time, and it is very - relatively- stable.
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570498&highlight=full+bloat
My 4 cents....
Close eyes. Now say eni mini miny Moe! Just flash them all. U could use the experience and see everyone's roms instead of asking.... hrllo
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you gotta wait till kernel source is released before you'll have bln and oc but maybe try smooth ice if you want touchwiz but id try cm7 if you haven't or cm9 its all alpha buy lots have used it as a daily driver... I just hate touchwiz
CM9 Skyrocket
Thanks...
Thank you all for the feedback.
This is what I though! lol
I will stick with GB for now. I get amazing battery life, is extremely stable and love all the extra features after tweaking.
Was just curious....
Thanks again,
--mike
Battery Life & Stability
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
I've been using PTSD's AOKP ICS ROM and I love it. I've mixed that with InstigatorX's Kernel and my battery life is amazing. I'm an Android noob, but I'm digging this setup.
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Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
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the word nightly means that it's scheduled to auto build a new version with any fixes made during the day... It wont auto update your Rom though you have to manually install it
It is a very easy process though. you download the new nightly and reboot to recovery: wipe system and wipe cache then install, wipe dalvik and fix permissions and reboot if you installed any mods like inverted apps or gps fix or dpi changes they need to also be addresses after the first boot
Because i don't like setting it up all the time i just install the new nightly weekly
CM9 Skyrocket
I actually *just* restored to Gingerbread today, after months of using Cyanogenmod 9's official and nightly releases, as well as the InstigatorX kernels.
My battery life was okay, but for all the extra bells and whistles, they seem to get the basics wrong, unfortunately :/ I still couldn't send texts larger than 160 characters without splitting them up, and they'd always arrive out of order, or not at all. Other apps wouldn't behave properly either, and my mobile network connection seemed to change/drop just from looking at it.
So CM9 looked promising, but still has a ways to go, and it's rated as one of the better ROMs for this phone. I didn't even want to try CM10, because their bug list is still bigger than CM9.
Can I ask where you got your romracer kernel? I'll have to give that a try. Also I'm looking to replace the current radio with something better.
I had to rebuild from scratch because somehow my gingerbread backup was corrupted. I used Bonestocketeer's ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357274 ) and the only issue I've had with it is I can't change the LTE/HSPA/GSM setting in Mobile Networks to just HSPA/GSM. I was able to with my original ROM, and that seemed to help battery life.
Thanks again for your post!
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At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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sly-tendencies said:
At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
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pookieguy said:
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
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My recommendation would be NexusMod, then. It features the proprietary performance tweaks available in the TouchWiz ROMs, so it's faster than Cyanogenmod, but it has a lot of theming that makes it look and feel closer to AOSP. There are still some ugly elements of TouchWiz that exist, but it's a big improvement over a lot of the other TouchWiz-based ROMs.
For sure, CM9 has more features and tweaking options, and a more consistent AOSP look to it, but it's slower than NexusMod and still has some very minor bugs. It does, perhaps, offer you a few more options in how to save battery, though.
I have to say, though ICS is a massive improvement over GB and we have stable, mature ICS ROMs available. I would strongly advise upgrading, but if you're concerned about bugs, stick with a light TW-based rom like NexusMod.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
feeling the skyrocket xperiance
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Yeah I see he did the same in a post about a Motorola screen. As much as I don't like your attitude I will admit you report where it's appropriate
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First off Questions belongs in Q&A. Second no one can really say use "x". Search, read and try. Locked
There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??
Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo
thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!
I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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duarian said:
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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bc760 said:
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.
The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.
AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?
i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.
Neverendingxsin said:
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
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Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?
Hey all...
My original Infuse had to be sent back to the Warranty dep because of the micro usb issues a lot of people had...it had Zeus v6 which I did love however I had to figure out how to hard brick it because I couldn't go back to stock....
So here I am with my new (Most likely refurbished) Infuse and it actually came pre-loaded with Gingerbread (Holy crap right?) and it seems to run well...in fact better than Zeus did....my battery life is better although it still sucks....it hasn't crashed yet so so far no known issues....
However, I miss the extra features Rooting/Flashing can do whether they're just for fun or not....but I'm worried I'm going to have the same USB issue right and never get back to stock again if something dire goes wrong....I almost felt like flashing caused the problem because it happened the same week....
So here's my question...
A lot of these new ICS/JB Roms are obviously ports of one another which is cool but everywhere I look they all seem to have the same issues with BT not working...wifi issues...signal issues and videocamera issues....I realize people have fixes with these with different kernels etc....but is there a more stable ROM than others? I used to have CM7 before Zeus and it was really slick and stable however I hated that it was missing some TouchWiz features that love and Zeus kept them....But when it comes to ICS I do like that "Vanilla" look because it doesn't really seem stock Samsung phones have it because of Touchwiz...
So what's the most stable ROM most of you know works best...
What's the flashiest ROM (all the bells and whistles)
And do any of them incorporate some TouchWiz features like swiping right or left on contacts for calling or messaging..(I don't know why I just love that feature)
So far from the looks like the updated Unofficial CM10 is the way to go....anyone want to steer me clear from this?
The only issue at the moment with ics/jb is 720p recording. Everything else is running completely fine.
Most of the jb roms are really smooth and stable. Try a few of them out and stick with the one you prefer.
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Most of the jb roms are really smooth and stable. Try a few of them out and stick with the one you prefer.
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Great post from andros here. No one can really make up your mind on what ROM to go with as some may have features you don't want, like, or need and/or is missing features you want/need. The most anybody can really do is throw a few recommendations out there (which i will do) but the rest is up to you.
Some ROMs i would personally recommend would first of all be andros's LiquidSmooth (click picture in my sig).
Some others from the JellyBean line-up would be RemICS-JB, SlimBean, and the unofficial CM10.
The only ICS ROM i have used is RemICS (not the same as RemICS-JB) so can't give any recommendations there (same goes for GB ROMs).
Those are the ROMs i have personally tried and are in my opinion the best 4.x ROMs for the infuse. But like i said earlier, it's your decision which one to go with. Research each ROM's features list, bug list, and update intervals to see which one is best for you.
-DD
You listed bt first so I assuming that is important. I'm using liquid smooth and it works flawlessly with bt. And battery life is great
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I checked out that video of Liquid Smooth and it looks very promising.....on the video he said that everything on the camera works....is the 720p issue have to do with crappy resolution or the video and audio not matching up? Because the video/audio is what I had issues with on CM7....
The guy on the video is using an sg3. The video is mostly for people to see how it looks, its features and functionality.
Our only issue with our Infuse is choppy 720p recording.
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If you are going to upgrade past GB I recommend skipping ICS. To my knowledge development on ICS has stopped for the infuse. I could be wrong but last I checked most of the ICS ROMs are still less functional than the jellybean ROMs.
I've tried most of the jb ROMs and from my own experiences, Slim, liquid, and Paranoid are the best. I haven't tried remics or miui though.
Flash one of them and you should be happy. And actually I have the 4.2 camera and took a video at a wedding (in low light) and it was the best video I've taken since stock.
Again it's all personal preference. But stability wise I think jb is pretty awesome.
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If going past GB follow instructions on OP of whichever ROM you want. Another good guide to not get a brick is Andros11's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31342159
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I'm certain this has been brought up before Several thousand times, but I gotta ask again...What is it that drives people to constantly flash new Roms/updates every couple days or even weeks?
I have been running cleanRom 3.0 and having no issues, no bugs, GREAT battery life. Why would I change that? I know CleanRom 5.0 has come out, but what would be the point to update if 3.0 is working perfectly and spot on?
Is it that people get bored?
Is it that people wonder what is different?
just makes me wonder.
Im guilty of this myself. I believe a rooted debloated with a theme of your choice is the way to go
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple
see whats different, see customizations, battery life, other random usually rom exclusive features.
ive probably flashed 75% of the roms available for this device just to see what theyre all about.
it helps me help other people, and helps me make my device my own.
most of the times its out of boredom and i restore my daily driver rom
Because updates to the ROM = possibly better phone
I prefer stability but I like changing stuff on my phone. I'll stay on a rom for a few weeks and not change a thing but the entire time I'll want to flash something even if I have no reason too smh Ultimately, I'm just not satisfied with what ships out the box.
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The grass is always greener.
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I used to flash weekly with my OG droid, over the years I have slowed down to once a month or so. I have 4 android devices so thats still a lot of flashing. I am always in search of the perfect rom, haha whatever that may be. faster, smoother, bells and whistles. I don't even know.
To have the latest and greatest rom.
Bug fixes and improvements. Plain and simple.
I've been trying to find the best Rom for what I do every day, but there are always little problems that bug me on every Rom. I damaged Clean Rom 5.0 and have finally stopped the daily flashing. This is as close as I well get to the prefect Rom.
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And I get what everyone has said. BUT for those of us that prefer performance (i.e. great battery life, no issues/bugs, fast speeds) over "new'ness", once you find a Rom that gives you the best of all worlds, why would you even worry about the latest? I have been on CleanRom 3.0 for since a couple weeks after it came out. ONLY reason I went to it was because I wasn't happy with the 4 Roms I tried before. Those 4 Roms I tried prior all had bugs or poor battery life that I wasn't happy with. Now that I am Happy with EVERYTHING, I dont plan on changing.
And don't get me wrong here, I know that just because I am satisfied and not wanting to flash doesn't mean that others will be content with that. Nobody needs to tell me that. I'm not trying to debate, just trying to see how others here think.
Because it is great to see the capability of your device by exploring different roms and it is so darn addicting.
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Because the majority of us here at XDA who root our phones and flash ROMs are tech junkies. Technology is like a drug to many of us. We are never content and always need the next fix, whatever the latest and greatest may be.
CleanROM 5.0 is built on the latest Jelly Bean leak, which has many improvements over the Ice Cream Sandwich base that CleanROM 3.0 is built on.
mmmmm rom flashing!!!!
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And I get what everyone has said. BUT for those of us that prefer performance (i.e. great battery life, no issues/bugs, fast speeds) over "new'ness", once you find a Rom that gives you the best of all worlds, why would you even worry about the latest? I have been on CleanRom 3.0 for since a couple weeks after it came out. ONLY reason I went to it was because I wasn't happy with the 4 Roms I tried before. Those 4 Roms I tried prior all had bugs or poor battery life that I wasn't happy with. Now that I am Happy with EVERYTHING, I dont plan on changing.
And don't get me wrong here, I know that just because I am satisfied and not wanting to flash doesn't mean that others will be content with that. Nobody needs to tell me that. I'm not trying to debate, just trying to see how others here think.
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I'm like you in that I don't want to potentially compromise the stability and functionality of my phone without significant incentive. For me the incentive was new functionality and increased performance. I've only flashed three roms other than stock.
CleanROM 3.1 was the first ROM I flashed, and as you said, it's stable with great battery life and pretty smooth. The smooth operation of my phone is what made me cautious about jumping to the first JB leak. Instead I kept track of the CR, stock leak, and Jelly Beans threads and read up on the bugs and issues.
Ultimately what I was reading about Google Now and Project Butter made me realize that I really wanted Jelly Bean and the few known issues in JB leak #2 were not enough to stop me from flashing Jelly Beans Build 2. I don't regret that decision, Jelly Beans is a cool rom with a nice AOSP theme, ran really smooth, and generally gave me good battery life (depending on what I was running). Also Google Now is really really cool.
Then I was reading about AOSP roms like LiquidSmooth RC9 and SlimBeans 3.1 that were about the come out. It seems like those teams had dedicated developers who were squashing existing bugs. With the remaining bugs pretty much known, but the ROMs otherwise stable I decided to give LiquidSmooth a shot. The motivation here was to really rid myself of all the stuff Samsung had running in the background, with touchwiz it seems like there are a million things classified under "Android System" when trying to diagnose a battery drain. With AOSP when I look at battery stats Screen and Cellular Calls are the only apps that really make a dent. I also like the clean styling, functionality, and flexibility of the AOSP lockscreen and UI in general.
Unless I encounter any other problems I will probably wait for a stable AOSP 4.2.1 rom to come out so I can try the new features there and hopefully some bug fixes for the bluetooth audio issues in 4.1.2.
I m coming from a tbolt i now have a verizon s3(unrooted so far) n I m guilty of "being in search of a perfect rom". What drove me to search was claims of better battery life, quicker and stable. What drove me back to my daily driver(skyraider) was frequent reboots( while googlemaps), applications not working(slingbox in particular ) inability to view video(live streams from my church).
I m currently doing research for the perfect rom for my S3 as I just activated the s3 yesterday (n I'm missing having a rooted phone) and I m resisting the urge to root!
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I m currently doing research for the perfect rom for my S3 as I just activated the s3 yesterday (n I'm missing having a rooted phone) and I m resisting the urge to root!
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I give it three days before you root/unlock or no later than the weekend. Regardless: root, unlock, and backup your IMEI!
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bug fixes
new features
security updates
Compulsion
fun
hacking/tinkering instinct
Customization
because we can
If you are happy where you are at then don't sweat flashing new stuff.
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I give it three days before you root/unlock or no later than the weekend. Regardless: root, unlock, and backup your IMEI!
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I'll second backing up your IMEI... being a total noob I researched and backed up everything I could, and I'm glad I did, second Rom I flashed sent my phone into permanent roaming. Following the stickies here made the fix simple.
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If everything works it just means you aren't running the latest and greatest.
You must tweak your phone until something breaks.
Then you search for the next fix.
It is the path that must be followed.
I recently convinced my girlfriend to switch to android from iOS, but I'm sorta torn; I want her to have the best experience (which I strongly believe is not stock software) but there's the question of stability, which could be problematic since I won't always be able to fix it, what do you guys think? Feedback would be super great
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I recently convinced my girlfriend to switch to android from iOS, but I'm sorta torn; I want her to have the best experience (which I strongly believe is not stock software) but there's the question of stability, which could be problematic since I won't always be able to fix it, what do you guys think? Feedback would be super great
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The best performance with roms I've had: Luna - I've had the best performance with this rom, Jelly 'Beans' - AOSP themed but 100% touchwiz, performance is perfect as well besides launcher redraw lag (fix by taking the services.jar in system/framework from Luna and replace it in system/framework on Jelly 'Beans'), Super Stock+ - exactly like stock except with basic changes that everyone loves such as no ongoing wifi notification, 4 in 1 reboot menu, and lidroid toggles, and CleanROM - similar to Super Stock+, with probably just a few more features. Also with CleanROM you can flash cool Wasabi themes. You can flash Wasabi themes on other roms too but it doesn't work with all. So always make a backup in recovery before flashing the theme in case it doesn't work or in case you don't like how the theme looks and want to try a different one. Also the stability on all these roms are perfect except I think Jelly Beans has a couple minor bugs. You can check by opening the thread and find the "Not Working" section. Jelly Beans also has a link to a google doc in its thread with a list of bugs and feature requests, and you can add to it. Luna I'm pretty sure is bug free at the moment but I'm not entirely sure, the rom is pretty new. and CleanROM and SuperStock I know for sure are bug free.
And for the kernel, I recommend Zeus Kernel on any rom. I have used every kernel I could find and Zeus definitely has the best performance. I like to overclock to 1.6 GHz with it. It's very safe as that is barely higher than stock.
My preference is Jelly 'Beans' and Luna. If I feel like having an AOSP theme I use Jelly Beans and if I want to use a stock look I use Luna. Like I said before if I use Jelly Beans I will use the services.jar from Luna in system/framework for no launcher lag. And I always use Zeus Kernel. Also you will get the best performance by not using widgets on the home screen. That's how it is for stock anyways, not sure if the same applies to custom roms. Good luck hopefully your girlfriend isn't disappointed let us know how she likes it. I like to hear feedback from people who switch from iOS to Android and vice versa
I would stick with stock. She'll already be overwhelmed by the customization it offers. Did she have her iphone jailbroken? If not, the freedom to change every aspect of the phone was not that important before why should that have changed. I would only recommend roms to people who like to tinker themselves, and are willing to spend the time to do research and learn how to do it correctly.
If you're going to do it for her, she obviously does not want to learn that aspect of using the phone, which means she also won't want to learn how to fix the problems that will definitely pop up. I actually think it would ruin her experience of android, especially since she's coming from ios which has far fewer issues. I think 3rd party launchers would be enough for her. It would be better to have her get used to android first, then introduce her to flashing roms if she find stock android to limited.
Currently on my S3 I'm on stock, and am perfectly fine with it. I am using Nova Prime Launcher, but Touchwiz was not terrible. There are some roms out there that interest me, but the issues far out weight the benefits.
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The best performance with roms I've had: Luna - I've had the best performance with this rom, Jelly 'Beans' - AOSP themed but 100% touchwiz, performance is perfect as well besides launcher redraw lag (fix by taking the services.jar in system/framework from Luna and replace it in system/framework on Jelly 'Beans'), Super Stock+ - exactly like stock except with basic changes that everyone loves such as no ongoing wifi notification, 4 in 1 reboot menu, and lidroid toggles, and CleanROM - similar to Super Stock+, with probably just a few more features. Also with CleanROM you can flash cool Wasabi themes. You can flash Wasabi themes on other roms too but it doesn't work with all. So always make a backup in recovery before flashing the theme in case it doesn't work or in case you don't like how the theme looks and want to try a different one. Also the stability on all these roms are perfect except I think Jelly Beans has a couple minor bugs. You can check by opening the thread and find the "Not Working" section. Jelly Beans also has a link to a google doc in its thread with a list of bugs and feature requests, and you can add to it. Luna I'm pretty sure is bug free at the moment but I'm not entirely sure, the rom is pretty new. and CleanROM and SuperStock I know for sure are bug free.
And for the kernel, I recommend Zeus Kernel on any rom. I have used every kernel I could find and Zeus definitely has the best performance. I like to overclock to 1.6 GHz with it. It's very safe as that is barely higher than stock.
My preference is Jelly 'Beans' and Luna. If I feel like having an AOSP theme I use Jelly Beans and if I want to use a stock look I use Luna. Like I said before if I use Jelly Beans I will use the services.jar from Luna in system/framework for no launcher lag. And I always use Zeus Kernel. Also you will get the best performance by not using widgets on the home screen. That's how it is for stock anyways, not sure if the same applies to custom roms. Good luck hopefully your girlfriend isn't disappointed let us know how she likes it. I like to hear feedback from people who switch from iOS to Android and vice versa
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Thanks for the fantastic response I'll mix yours and other posts though, because you both have great points
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rtan73 said:
I would stick with stock. She'll already be overwhelmed by the customization it offers. Did she have her iphone jailbroken? If not, the freedom to change every aspect of the phone was not that important before why should that have changed. I would only recommend roms to people who like to tinker themselves, and are willing to spend the time to do research and learn how to do it correctly.
If you're going to do it for her, she obviously does not want to learn that aspect of using the phone, which means she also won't want to learn how to fix the problems that will definitely pop up. I actually think it would ruin her experience of android, especially since she's coming from ios which has far fewer issues. I think 3rd party launchers would be enough for her. It would be better to have her get used to android first, then introduce her to flashing roms if she find stock android to limited.
Currently on my S3 I'm on stock, and am perfectly fine with it. I am using Nova Prime Launcher, but Touchwiz was not terrible. There are some roms out there that interest me, but the issues far out weight the benefits.
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Thanks for the input she's actually pretty tech savvy, she just kinda got stuck with an iPhone. But I'll definitely take your advice and start her off slow, because she saw my phone (running AOKP) and I had to tell her that the phone out of the box won't be as cutting edge and such so I figure she'll work her way up there eventually, thanks again though
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A pretty simple and easy rom is the jedi mind trick I run it on my s2 its stable eaay to use loads of customizations and nice to look at great first timers rom
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A pretty simple and easy rom is the jedi mind trick I run it on my s2 its stable eaay to use loads of customizations and nice to look at great first timers rom
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You're a longs way from home.
This is a Verizon s3 i535 thread.
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joshua5683 said:
The best performance with roms I've had: Luna - I've had the best performance with this rom, Jelly 'Beans' - AOSP themed but 100% touchwiz, performance is perfect as well besides launcher redraw lag (fix by taking the services.jar in system/framework from Luna and replace it in system/framework on Jelly 'Beans'), Super Stock+ - exactly like stock except with basic changes that everyone loves such as no ongoing wifi notification, 4 in 1 reboot menu, and lidroid toggles, and CleanROM - similar to Super Stock+, with probably just a few more features. Also with CleanROM you can flash cool Wasabi themes. You can flash Wasabi themes on other roms too but it doesn't work with all. So always make a backup in recovery before flashing the theme in case it doesn't work or in case you don't like how the theme looks and want to try a different one. Also the stability on all these roms are perfect except I think Jelly Beans has a couple minor bugs. You can check by opening the thread and find the "Not Working" section. Jelly Beans also has a link to a google doc in its thread with a list of bugs and feature requests, and you can add to it. Luna I'm pretty sure is bug free at the moment but I'm not entirely sure, the rom is pretty new. and CleanROM and SuperStock I know for sure are bug free.
And for the kernel, I recommend Zeus Kernel on any rom. I have used every kernel I could find and Zeus definitely has the best performance. I like to overclock to 1.6 GHz with it. It's very safe as that is barely higher than stock.
My preference is Jelly 'Beans' and Luna. If I feel like having an AOSP theme I use Jelly Beans and if I want to use a stock look I use Luna. Like I said before if I use Jelly Beans I will use the services.jar from Luna in system/framework for no launcher lag. And I always use Zeus Kernel. Also you will get the best performance by not using widgets on the home screen. That's how it is for stock anyways, not sure if the same applies to custom roms. Good luck hopefully your girlfriend isn't disappointed let us know how she likes it. I like to hear feedback from people who switch from iOS to Android and vice versa
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don't mean to hijack his thread but is Zeus compatible with any ROM? I'm running SlimBean and I've been wanting to flash it.
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don't mean to hijack his thread but is Zeus compatible with any ROM? I'm running SlimBean and I've been wanting to flash it.
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I think it is only compatible with Touchwiz roms. Not sure though I would ask in the Zeus kernel thread if I were you
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I think it is only compatible with Touchwiz roms. Not sure though I would ask in the Zeus kernel thread if I were you
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Yeah I'll do that. Thanks anyway man
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I recently convinced my girlfriend to switch to android from iOS, but I'm sorta torn; I want her to have the best experience (which I strongly believe is not stock software) but there's the question of stability, which could be problematic since I won't always be able to fix it, what do you guys think? Feedback would be super great
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Should throw miui v4 on it since she would be used to the no app drawer and then miuis major customization
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evo4gnoob said:
Should throw miui v4 on it since she would be used to the no app drawer and then miuis major customization
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I agree with this, it was hard for me when I first made the switch, miui was something I was semi familiar with!!
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