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xoom vs galaxy tab 10.1

since the tab 10.1 has been released has anyone had a chance to play around with both of them? I'm liking the xoom mainly for the development that has already happened for it. Anyone have any likes or dislikes for the xoom or tab 10.1?

I own a xoom and am opinionated I guess but I have been a Moto guy for a long time just because their hardware is pretty much unbeatable. I will admit there are a few flaws with the xoom but overall it is built like a tank. I prefer a hefty device,not that the Xoom is extremely heavy but to me weight = solid build quality. I hate plasticky Samsung devices because they are flimsy and do not stand up to my lifestyle. Plus I feel they are all but copying crapple(no external storage option). Just look at almost all the Galaxy devices. Sammy's touchwiz blows IMO and from my understanding it is going to be incorporated onto the non I/O tabs.
My. 02¢
If you want a stock Honeycomb experience with timely updates and a solid device then go with the Xoom, if you like light and plastic doesn't bother you along with waiting for updates them the SGT 10.1 maybe for you.

i had a chance to see and touch the Samsung 10.1 and even though I own the xoom I feel its nice. I have several concerns though. First the plastic quality like Brenardo said and the fact that the memory is limited. Trying to copy I pad. Other than that they are both virtually alike. It comes down to preference.

I work for a Bravo TV show and we currently Have a Galaxy 10.1 in our office. I played with it for a bit, and was not impressed.
Pros
Its very thin, light as a feather, and pretty looking.
Cons
There are no inputs besides the 3,5 headphone jack and 30 pin connector.
The power and volume buttons are on the top on the device when holding in landscape. A lot of people complain about the Xoom's button placement, but I found taking one hand out the device or having to turn it to the side to access thouse buttons extremely awkward.
Also there was a little gap in between the bezel and where ever it connects with the back of the device.

I have both and the Tab has a longer battery life. About 10-11 hours, while the xoom is more like 8.5 to 9 hours.
Xoom will get updates faster.

Brenardo said:
I own a xoom and am opinionated I guess but I have been a Moto guy for a long time just because their hardware is pretty much unbeatable. I will admit there are a few flaws with the xoom but overall it is built like a tank. I prefer a hefty device,not that the Xoom is extremely heavy but to me weight = solid build quality. I hate plasticky Samsung devices because they are flimsy and do not stand up to my lifestyle. Plus I feel they are all but copying crapple(no external storage option). Just look at almost all the Galaxy devices. Sammy's touchwiz blows IMO and from my understanding it is going to be incorporated onto the non I/O tabs.
My. 02¢
If you want a stock Honeycomb experience with timely updates and a solid device then go with the Xoom, if you like light and plastic doesn't bother you along with waiting for updates them the SGT 10.1 maybe for you.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-hits-us-retailers-tomorrow-touchwiz-ux/
no its not

Sticking with xoom, no SD card slot or HDMI is not worth my 600$.

Kippui said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-hits-us-retailers-tomorrow-touchwiz-ux/
no its not
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Maybe it is not on it right now but, from your link...
"What's more, Samsung's also promising to deliver a number of new features in a "future software upgrade," including the TouchWiz UX that was originally intended to be included on the tablet, and Samsung's Media Hub, which promises "easier downloads of rented or purchased content"

I guess the main thing I'm considered about is the lack of an unlocked bootloaderon the galaxy tab. I'm going to look at them at bestbuy this weekend tho so maybe that will help my decision

legion21 said:
I guess the main thing I'm considered about is the lack of an unlocked bootloaderon the galaxy tab. I'm going to look at them at bestbuy this weekend tho so maybe that will help my decision
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Check out the GT forum and do some reading. XOOM FTW!!!

Gaming
Which tab would be better gaming like with emulators or normal apps?

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/compared-samsung-galaxy-tab-101-motorola-xoom-20110517/
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=40887
http://m.gadg.com/2011/08/11/the-tablet-battle-motorola-xoom-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1/

I got my XOOM before 4 days even though 10.1 was available, as I wanted stock android, most other specifications are same for XOOM and 10.1
10.1 is thinner and lighter then xoom
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[Q] Giving a GT 10.1 for a Xoom?

Hello all,
I'm actually considering to give my new Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a Xoom because
of the recent newton ring issue on the screen.
The xoom seems pretty THICK and the display not so good if compared to
the 10.1. But this issue is starting to drive me crazy.
Any suggestion, consideration, opinion?
Regards,
Daemon

Daemon1978 said:
Hello all,
I'm actually considering to give my new Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a Xoom because
of the recent newton ring issue on the screen.
The xoom seems pretty THICK and the display not so good if compared to
the 10.1. But this issue is starting to drive me crazy.
Any suggestion, consideration, opinion?
Regards,
Daemon
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"Hey this samsung sucks and has a crappy screen, someone want to trade their flawless xoom for it?"
Let me know how that works out for you

It sounds pretty bad to me but I think there is a misunderstanding:
I'm not trading it, I'm returning it to the shop.
I'm here to ask for conscious comparisons, considerations, concerns between the 2 devices.
It seems so thick and heavy compared to the galaxy tab, and the screen...
I dunno...asking for a substitution, for a change with xoom or another device or for a refund?
Heeeeelp!
Daemon
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Daemon1978 said:
It sounds pretty bad to me but I think there is a misunderstanding:
I'm not trading it, I'm returning it to the shop.
I'm here to ask for conscious comparisons, considerations, concerns between the 2 devices.
It seems so thick and heavy compared to the galaxy tab, and the screen...
I dunno...asking for a substitution, for a change with xoom or another device or for a refund?
Heeeeelp!
Daemon
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The xooms screen is superior to the gtab 10.1 qhd is higher Res then there amoled crap.
Xooms are thick and heavy, I chose it as the tablet for me for that its sturdy. The galaxy tab 10.1 and icrap 2 seemed light and fragile
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I compared the galaxy tab 10.1 to the xoom display and, frankly speaking, xoom display is far less bright and brilliant than the SGT 10.1 in my opinion.
I really can't find what else I should bet on.

Daemon1978 said:
I compared the galaxy tab 10.1 to the xoom display and, frankly speaking, xoom display is far less bright and brilliant than the SGT 10.1 in my opinion.
I really can't find what else I should bet on.
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That is true, but the qhd has a superior resolution.
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I don't know what you're talking about. Probably the info you have are wrong, because they've both 1280x800, and both are 10.1"...
And the Tab isn't amoled but EPS for high brightness and contrast.

Zac95 said:
That is true, but the qhd has a superior resolution.
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Qhd is for phones...

Vanhoud said:
Qhd is for phones...
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Sigh... the dangers of buzz words. We can all thank apple for their marketing use of "retina display", which led Android manufacturers to using terms like "qHD", etc.
qHD is in reference to phone screen resolutions; there is no "word", as far as I know, for the resolutions found on Honeycomb devices like the Tab 10.1 and the Xoom.
Concerning the Xoom and the Tab 10.1, they have the same resolution; although, as the OP has stated, the Tab's screen, in the opinion of many reviewers and users, seems to be more brilliant and good-looking compared to the Xoom's screen. Motorola is no Samsung when it comes to screen technology, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
To the OP: I would weigh which is more important to you immediately and long-term. In the long-term, the Tab 10.1 will be the best device, given that it will, eventually, have pretty much the same software as the Xoom. Given the Tab 10.1's superior hardware, it will probably be the better device. As for right now, the Xoom is getting the 3.2 upgrade starting today, with no word on when other devices will get the 3.2 update (although there was no real announcement about the Xoom US Wi-Fi getting 3.2 today... so we could see a universal 3.2 rollout happening across all Honeycomb devices within a few weeks). In the world of Android, updates are no guarantee, however, with a device like the Tab 10.1, you should be good with updates for at LEAST another 12 months... if not more.
If I were you, I would decide what's more important to you rght now: hardware or software. With Samsung, overall, you'll get a better screen and a much thinner and less cumbersome package. With the Xoom, you'll get faster software updates. It's up to you, though, in the end. Happy choosing!

I'm also a tab 10.1 owner considering to grab a Motorola xoom my reasons:
Price. The xoom just dropped to $499.
Storage. xoom 32gb vs tab 10.1 16gb.
Extra ports at no additional cost.
Updates! the xoom will get them first so at least it will get to see ICS. Samsung has been nasty with their updates I'm yet to GB on my galaxy S. I'm running 2.3.4 on my Atrix 4g.
The only cons I could find on the xoom would be weight and screen quality, I dont care about the weight since I have to buy adapters for my tab and that for sure will add more weight to it.
I still have 12 days left on my return policy. I'm still researching pros and cons I still need to find out how the battery life on the xoom compares to the tab 10.1 but I'm 80% sure the tab 10.1 will be going back pretty xoom. lol

It does seem there are two models of XOOMs floating around with different screens. Mine is fantastic, I guess I got lucky and got the good screen.
Battery life is great. I unplug it at 6:30am, do light to moderate use with email, some browsing, words with friends, Pandora, process some payments with Square, use IP Cam viewer a few times a day to see who is at the front door. I will plug it in at night with 30-40% charge left.
On a recent cross country flight, I used it for a few hours on the first leg, and hour during the layover, and five more hours on the second leg, 40 minutes to the hotel (10 hours of travel) and then two hours of email/browsing and had 30% left.

Zac95 said:
The xooms screen is superior to the gtab 10.1 qhd is higher Res then there amoled crap.
Xooms are thick and heavy, I chose it as the tablet for me for that its sturdy. The galaxy tab 10.1 and icrap 2 seemed light and fragile
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LOL QHD on a tablet.
Kid's a noobaki.

Zomg someone made a one letter mistake on the interwebz set phasers to kill
Trolls.....
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xxgmon3yxx said:
I'm also a tab 10.1 owner considering to grab a Motorola xoom my reasons:
Price. The xoom just dropped to $499.
Storage. xoom 32gb vs tab 10.1 16gb.
Extra ports at no additional cost.
Updates! the xoom will get them first so at least it will get to see ICS. Samsung has been nasty with their updates I'm yet to GB on my galaxy S. I'm running 2.3.4 on my Atrix 4g.
The only cons I could find on the xoom would be weight and screen quality, I dont care about the weight since I have to buy adapters for my tab and that for sure will add more weight to it.
I still have 12 days left on my return policy. I'm still researching pros and cons I still need to find out how the battery life on the xoom compares to the tab 10.1 but I'm 80% sure the tab 10.1 will be going back pretty xoom. lol
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I really don't know what's with the crappy screen thing. Look, I'm a painter, and color is very important to me as I use the Xoom as my travelling portfolio.
I want my colors true to life. Oversaturated color is pleasing...I play with it...but it would not show my photos properly. The Xoom (mine at least) has nice, true colors, even at +/- 60% brightness.
Also, it's not heavy when you get used to it...feels sturdy...like a tank.

Tell me what to buy?

Hey all
Im looking to venture into the world of tablets but with so many being available its all a little confusing! I like the look of the Nexus 7 for its power and incredibly good price but for me 7 inches is just a bigger phone I want something with the price tag and power (near enough) of a Nexus but with something like a 10 inch screen to make it feel like an actual tablet. Im only 16 with a part time job so i cant go for something like the Asus Infinity even though i would love that
So start shouting out your tablet choices people!

Your choices are quite limited; 10 inchers are usually at least $400.
I would recommend watching slickdeals.net for some reburbished deal if you really need one. In truth, however, the difference between 7 inch and phone is already quite significant and it makes the most sense for your price point (short of a "cheap" brand like archos).

i think go for the ipad if you like a bigger screen than nexus 7 ipad is also have the speed.

I love the size of my nexus7 so far there's not much I don't love about this tablet!I hear they are releasing a 10 inch soon so you could wait for that but I don't know if it will be tegra3 or Qualcomm. Again this tablet rocks! Rooted w/ stock ROM cwm recovery & trinity kernel.
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MacGyver Jack said:
Hey all
Im looking to venture into the world of tablets but with so many being available its all a little confusing! I like the look of the Nexus 7 for its power and incredibly good price but for me 7 inches is just a bigger phone I want something with the price tag and power (near enough) of a Nexus but with something like a 10 inch screen to make it feel like an actual tablet. Im only 16 with a part time job so i cant go for something like the Asus Infinity even though i would love that
So start shouting out your tablet choices people!
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I would recommend the Toshiba Excite 10 inch. It has HDMI out with an SD card slot. That's the tablet I would get if I wanted one.
Another good option is the Asus as you mentioned. You can look up the Samsung Galaxy Note Tablet. It comes with a stylus and I think it has app that directly support it. You can't go wrong with any of these. Just pick the features that you want and get it. I would suggest going to your local electronics store and trying them out to see which one you like as each of them have customized their Android OS with their custom apps and settings. All of the mentioned above have quad cores so you can't go wrong with that.
If you're looking for smaller/cheaper then you can go with the Samsung Galaxy Player 5. Its $200 and its what I use for my "tablet" experience. Its smaller and portable than the above but that may not be what you want. Note that this is a single core so you're sacrificing power and size but you gain portability.

marniel647 said:
i think go for the ipad if you like a bigger screen than nexus 7 ipad is also have the speed.
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iPad also has a pricetag triple the Nexus 7. He said he doesn't really have a lot of money since he's only 16 with a part time job.
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Thanks for all the help so far!
I dont mind saving up for the more pricey tablets because im currently 4 weeks into my summer holidays and the rest of my work has to fit around my A-Levels.
A 10inch Nexus would be great but the realease date could be a while yet!
I wont be taking the tablet out the house much only to go away to my Caravan every weekend

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iPad also has a pricetag triple the Nexus 7. He said he doesn't really have a lot of money since he's only 16 with a part time job.
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And the reason I use XDA is to not have to hear of Apple and their products... It's one of my principles not to ever use an Apple product

Nexus7:thumbup::
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If you are desperate for a larger tablet then you could pick up something like the Galaxy Tab. It's a bit older than the Nexus, but stil pretty decent, especially if you run ICS.
It's on for sale for £279 at carphone warehouse www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/m..._WIFI_16GB/HANDSET?portal=GLSHOP&promo=GLSHOP
Otherwise I'd recommend a Nexus 7.

Twodads said:
If you are desperate for a larger tablet then you could pick up something like the Galaxy Tab. It's a bit older than the Nexus, but stil pretty decent, especially if you run ICS.
It's on for sale for £279 at carphone warehouse www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/m..._WIFI_16GB/HANDSET?portal=GLSHOP&promo=GLSHOP
Otherwise I'd recommend a Nexus 7.
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Im not incredibly desperate, Just want to replace my crappy Acer Extensa 5235
I think i might wait for the Nexus 10 but the Galaxy note 10.1 is catching my eye although its aimed at artists and creative people ( I cant draw to save my life )

I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, and i have been loving it so far! I haven't even needed to root it, i'm still stock and its quick with a beautiful screen! I got the 16GB WiFi version with a 32GB MicroSD b/c i watch TV on it while i'm at work. The battery life is just AMAZING! I don't think i've ever gone lower than 50%! And i watch shows and movies for HOURS! There is some noticeable lag every now and again, but its usually pretty peppy! And it comes stock with ICS, they have even rolled out 2 updates since i bought mine! Thats rare! No word yet on if it will get Jelly Bean, but it doesn't matter to me, i love this tabby! Good luck on your hunt!

A good tablet would be the Toshiba excite 10. It has a nice screen, tegra 3, several ports, and very good speakers. The best part is that it's only $300 at Costco.
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Trying to decide between S4 HTC One and LG Optimus G Pro

These seem like the three hottest phones right now, and i know i throw this up in the S4 forum so i am sure to get a bit biased replies, i am curious about comparing all 3.
To me it seems like the One has better sound quality and screen, the S4 supposedly has a bit better speeds (and probably best development) and the OGP has biggest screen size.
I don't love the interface design on the One, specifically no menu button or ability to see recently used apps, could be a deal breaker on it's own. The LG phone is an interesting one...seems like a nicely designed phone, and if you don't really have a need for most of Samsung's zany apps and stuff, it might be a great phone. Biggest problem i am worried about is - lack of development. I got burned on an OG Note when the Note 2 arrived and Samsung basically moved on, never to release an official JB version. I would hate to buy into another great phone only to get burned by lack of a following or something.
I'm sure anyone would be happy as a clam with any of these three bad boys, but anyone have an opinion when comparing them first hand?

Dillsnik said:
These seem like the three hottest phones right now, and i know i throw this up in the S4 forum so i am sure to get a bit biased replies, i am curious about comparing all 3.
To me it seems like the One has better sound quality and screen, the S4 supposedly has a bit better speeds (and probably best development) and the OGP has biggest screen size.
I don't love the interface design on the One, specifically no menu button or ability to see recently used apps, could be a deal breaker on it's own. The LG phone is an interesting one...seems like a nicely designed phone, and if you don't really have a need for most of Samsung's zany apps and stuff, it might be a great phone. Biggest problem i am worried about is - lack of development. I got burned on an OG Note when the Note 2 arrived and Samsung basically moved on, never to release an official JB version. I would hate to buy into another great phone only to get burned by lack of a following or something.
I'm sure anyone would be happy as a clam with any of these three bad boys, but anyone have an opinion when comparing them first hand?
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I owned the One for a week and switched it for GS4. The Audio on the One sounds better(double front facing stereo speakers > single backfacing speaker) although the volume is about the same, and the screen is brighter, However the 4MP camera couldn't get enough detail for me and the photos looks really fuzzy on my 1440p screen. The AMOLED screen on the GS4 is beautiful and not too bad in sunlight either(One'LCD is better under the sun, but not much better).
Another benefit of GS4 is that the battery life is significantly better than the One, even when I run the GS4 at max brightness(Dynamic Mode) at all times,

Haven't used an Optimus G Pro, but I have both the One and S4. You're right about the button placement on the HTC, it's infuriating. There are custom kernels that allow you to sweep the capacitive buttons or hold the HTC logo to wake and sleep the phone, but they don't work as reliably as I'd like. The S4 is much better in that sense, in my opinion anyways. I prefer the screen on the HTC. I do a lot of Web browsing and I find it's much easier on the eyes. I've done a factory reset, turned off animations, and disabled S-Voice, but my S4 is noticeably more laggy than the HTC. It's actually shockingly laggy given the hardware. I don't take a ton of pictures, but when I do it's almost always in good lightning conditions, so for me the S4 camera trounces the camera on the HTC.
At this point you honestly can't really go wrong. Battery life is similar for my usage, maybe marginally better on the S4. If you can live with 32gb of storage (realistically about 26gb) I'd go for the HTC.
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I used the Optimus G Pro (OGP) for 2 days before exchanging for a GS4. I exchanged because the battery life on the Optimus G pro was horrible. I had a NOTE II before and that battery would go all day & some. The screen did get a little brighter than the Galaxy S4, but that was the only benefit for me. I changed because of the battery drain, the lack of assessories, and the predicted lack of development. Both have locked bootloaders, but I figured I would get that unlocked sooner on the GS4 and have more ROMS available to me. I did like the customizable options included with the OGP, but I would choose the GS4 over it again if I had a chance.

I have all 3 phones. I use the LG Optimus G Pro as a daily driver at this point as my sgs4 lags big time and battery life sucks. My batter life on LG Optimus G Pro is very good and I have a note 2. I can go two days with heavy usage no issues. The screen is the best on LG Optimus G Pro compared to HTC one and sgs4.
HTC one build, look and feel is the best it is the iPhone of the android world. However I had the capacitive buttons they suck. The sound is better then any phone out there and I think screen looks good but battery life sucks. Will have decent dev support and comes in 64 or 32gb. No removable battery or sd card.
Sgs4 has nice big screen, 16gb storage total crap as 9gb is only use bale, you can get 32gb now. Cheap plastic build feels worst from all 3 phones. The phone is not as smooth as HTC one or LG Optimus G Pro unless you use a custom rom like CM. The size and screen is perfect if you want a bigger screen but not a big phone. Will have decent dev support. Removable battery and sd card slot.
Lg Optimus G Pro comes in 32gb with micro sd and Removable battery. Has best screen from all phones I have. It is super fast and battery is great. Boot loader is locked with no info if it will ever be unlocked so development is none at this point. Screen is 5.5 and 1080p. I like note 2 so this is a direct replacement for it until note 3 comes out. The phone is actually lighter and not as wide as note 2 so easier to hold single handed.
Hope this helps.
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Galaxy s4 Octa is better than all others... GRAPHIC CPU SCREEEN RAM MEMORY DDR2 ETC ETC
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Galaxy s4 Octa is better than all others... GRAPHIC CPU SCREEEN RAM MEMORY DDR2 ETC ETC
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To bad it's not lte and costs a lot in US to folks like negri or expansys but yeah I agree the intl sgs4 is better always is the case with samsung they give us in US the crap version.
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Of you are looking for development then the answer is simple, GS4. Reason being is Google is releasing an S4 with stock Android and it is supported by Google, not Samsung. We should have the best of both worlds. Pretty easy decision if you ask me
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Have all three, imo its S4, G Pro, One in that order. Ever since development took off for the S4 and the lag was removed, S4 hands down is the best phone on the market (again, imo)...Optimus G Pro was a huge surprise as its an EXCELLENT phone with a great screen and decent battery (nowhere near as good as Note 2, right on par with S4)...the only issues I have with G Pro is reversed capacitive buttons and the screen is impossible to see outdoors, which is when I simply grab my S4 and go...the One is a great phone, I just got too used to physical home button and multi-tasking (through multi-window or Q Slide), plus I really, REALLY don't care for Sense in any of its iterations...G Pro volume is low even with an aux cable in my car, but fine with Bluetooth, S4 is loud, and One is loud. Clearly One wins design, but if functionality is what you want, I'd go with S4 and G Pro every time.
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Of you are looking for development then the answer is simple, GS4. Reason being is Google is releasing an S4 with stock Android and it is supported by Google, not Samsung. We should have the best of both worlds. Pretty easy decision if you ask me
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HTC one is also releasing a Google edition this summer so choice is narrowed down again.
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I was another one of those guys on the fence between these three phones. Ended up ruling out the LG for two reasons: I can't stand the gov't issue LG phones they gave us to use at work and I really don't think I can handle lugging around a phone with a 5.5" screen in my uniform all day.
So that put me between the One and S4. While the one is favored for its front-facing speakers and LCD3 screen, it features no removable storage or user-accessible parts. Have a failed battery? Too bad, need to replace your entire phone. Need more space? Too bad, you only get what's on it (even though 64GB isn't too shabby). So, yes, the One is basically the iPhone of the Android world that just so happens to already have a decent amount of development now, but what will it be like when HTC moves on to whatever new phone it chooses to support? Those of us who owned an Evo knows exactly what I'm talking about.
That being said, the consumer-level development on the One is impressive. They've managed to remove the menu bar for apps that aren't ICS-compliant (Viper will, for one) and allowed you to finally bring the clock speeds back up to be comparable to (if not better than...at your own risk) the S4.
I will personally stick with the S4. There's always a bigger push for development for Samsung's phones, they tend to have better resale potential, and I will actually benefit from a user-accessible battery and SD card storage. Since the S4's SD slot is SDXC-compatible, should they manage to find an ability to have a cards' size in excess of 64GB, you've got MONSTER potential for storage.
One more vote for the S4, and not one from a Samsung fanboy. I was reluctant to decide on it after my Epic 4G was an Epic FAIL, but I feel it's the superior phone for me.

I would opt for the Samsung Galaxy S4 just because there is more development in it other then the other two phones. Also IMO the phone is much easier to use and has a smaller learning curve then the HTC One. The lag on the S4 truly sucks but for some reason I feel the lag is going away with time or as apps update so maybe the problem is getting taken care of. I primary feel the lag when receiving text messages. I use the iPhone as my benchmark for software and smoothness and the Galaxy Note 2 was the closest android phone to iPhone in terms of stability lack of lag and reliability. I thought samsung was taking things in the right direction but I feel they took a step back with the S4. Hopefully they redeem themselves!

For me, it came down to how I was going to use the device. Rarely do I play games or watch movies/tv on my phone, so why would I need front facing speakers anyway? I have a bluetooth stereo speaker if I want to listed to music with friends (jawbone). The ability to replace the battery, sd-card, and the lack of a MENU button pushed me over the top for the ONE. With the LG, it ended up just plain being too large, I have enough tablets in my life. The S4 actually isn't that big, the screen is just bigger because there's a smaller bezel. That left me with one choice, the S4, as much as I hate the rounded corners and plastic feel, the first thing we all do is put a case on it anyway.

sabre31 said:
HTC one is also releasing a Google edition this summer so choice is narrowed down again.
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Really? Cause there's no proof of that rumor. HTC denied it anyways so yeah.
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thdaddy34 said:
I would opt for the Samsung Galaxy S4 just because there is more development in it other then the other two phones. Also IMO the phone is much easier to use and has a smaller learning curve then the HTC One. The lag on the S4 truly sucks but for some reason I feel the lag is going away with time or as apps update so maybe the problem is getting taken care of. I primary feel the lag when receiving text messages. I use the iPhone as my benchmark for software and smoothness and the Galaxy Note 2 was the closest android phone to iPhone in terms of stability lack of lag and reliability. I thought samsung was taking things in the right direction but I feel they took a step back with the S4. Hopefully they redeem themselves!
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The note 2 was laggy as first too. It'll be fixed.
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S4 is a piss poor release from Samsung. Let's all get our fanboy hats off for a minute. It will be a good phone do to custom roms and devs supporting like CM. People jumped all over apple for releasing iPhone 5 which was similar to iPhone 4s. Samsung copied and did same thing with s4 compared to s3. Note 2 was stable and lack free from day one I had it and used it every day from first day of release until sgs4 was released. I do have an sgs4 and samsung could have done much better.

sabre31 said:
S4 is a piss poor release from Samsung. Let's all get our fanboy hats off for a minute. It will be a good phone do to custom roms and devs supporting like CM. People jumped all over apple for releasing iPhone 5 which was similar to iPhone 4s. Samsung copied and did same thing with s4 compared to s3. Note 2 was stable and lack free from day one I had it and used it every day from first day of release until sgs4 was released. I do have an sgs4 and samsung could have done much better.
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The gs4 and gs3 was a pretty decent jump. you talk about it so negatively... why do you have it
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jetlitheone said:
The gs4 and gs3 was a pretty decent jump. you talk about it so negatively... why do you have it
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I have all the newest phones but I also am unbiased and don't stick to one brand or phone and call it like it is. With time and with custom roms sgs4 will be good. It is not my daily driver until cm10.1 comes out for it.

It just blows my mind how Samsung got it so right with the Galaxy Note 2 and couldn't replicate it with the Galaxy s4. I would assume all they had to do was take a product or software that was one of their best and improve it but instead they made it worse. I am really hoping for an update to be released soon to fix many of the software glitches. I am also wondering if this is more of an American galaxy s4 problem that's the international version does not suffer from or A cross-platform problem. But other than the occasional lagginess the Galaxy s4 blows away the competition.

sabre31 said:
I have all the newest phones but I also am unbiased and don't stick to one brand or phone and call it like it is. With time and with custom roms sgs4 will be good. It is not my daily driver until cm10.1 comes out for it.
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Same for me. I had the One IPhone 5 and the galaxy note 2 and this is my favorite by far. The lag isn't too bad at all especially with custom kernels and such. Why use cyanogenmod with this though?
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jetlitheone said:
Same for me. I had the One IPhone 5 and the galaxy note 2 and this is my favorite by far. The lag isn't too bad at all especially with custom kernels and such. Why use cyanogenmod with this though?
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To be honest my phone is really lagging I may have a bad unit to be honest I am hoping cm10 will fix this or some custom tw rom. But phone is perfect screen size and size for phone.
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Advice, Nexus 5 or Note 3 from N⁴?

I'm having a hard time choosing my next phone. I currently have a Nexus 4 and have had it since Spring 2013. I love the development community and speed of nexus devices (relative to my last phone, the GS3, which has horrible touchwiz and was very laggy). Coupled with my Nexus 4 is the Galaxy Note 8 tablet which I use for entertainment consumption and school.
You'd think I would just advance onto the Nexus 5 because of my love for Nexus and stock android but I was thinking that maybe I should just sell my Nexus 4 and GN 8 for a Note 3. It could double as my tablet and phone plus the battery life is pretty good although I can live with the battery on nexus phones.
I'm going to be upgrading either way as the Nexus 4 has run its course for me (still a fantastic phone IMO, but I like to have the latest and greatest). Kit Kat is awesome too, been running it for about a week now.
Now I ask the people with actual experience with the Nexus 5 for their opinion; should I get this phone over staying with the Nexus 4 or getting the Galaxy Note 3? Does it really live up to the hype? Thanks in advance.
Mods: if this thread is in the wrong place, please move, thanks.
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If they were the same price, the Note 3 would win every time for me.
But since that's not true, and you're in the Nexus 5 section, go for that.

Nexus 5 would be smoother, faster, more compact and will get updates way earlier. Also it looks better I guess. I almost forgot the price !
On the other side you'll have a bigger screen, a much better battery life and more gadgets...
So, the choice is up to you. Personnaly it's N5

I was in your situation but I end up going for the nexus 5. I love the note 3 for everything except the price and touch wiz I hate touch wiz lol
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The N5 is half the price. Double the price and you get a bigger screen, an extra gb of RAM, microsd, and removable battery.
If you more so just use your phone like a normal human then get the N5, much smoother with not having touchwiz. If you feel like you can make use of that screen realistate then go for the Note.

I am always asking myself: "How much can I trust ${maker}" to not screw me over on updates and repairs. Those are, let's face it (bring on the hounds) the big selling points for Apple, Apple Stores everywhere to exchange your broken front screen iPhone for a new one in 30 minutes at $50 price point (with AppleCare), and new OS rollouts more or less the second everyone else has them.
Samsung has been a little behind the curve in both for me. I have a Samsung Flagship Store in Frankfurt (when I am there) and my cracked S4 elicited some laughter and an attempt at selling me a Note 3, "we sell, we don't do service here" was the response. My S4 is still waiting for 4.3, too, a now second generation deprecated OS that's been out for quite a while. Without 4.3 I am not only missing out on Android features, I am also not hopeful to see 4.4 before the S5 is being released...
I'd say go Nexus 5. It has all the things you'd want from a phone, at a very alluring price, and you can be sure that you'll be seeing 4.5 or 5.0 at the latest a month or two after the N5s/N6 saw it.

I had the original note & can't see myself ever buying a samsung phone again. Brick bug, lack of developer support (from samsung), slow & half baked updates. I loved the huge amoled screen, but it's a relief to have something a bit smaller now to be honest. I only managed to cope with TW for a few weeks before switching to aosp. The 3rd party s pen apps are pretty good but you lose some functionality without TW.
Came from a nexus & would only settle for a nexus again now.

The Note 3 has a larger screen and MUCH better battery life. The N5 has much better software. But if you get a Note 3 with an unlocked bootloader then you'll probably have access to stable AOSP ROMs which would make it better than the N5.

This is a hard decision, thanks for the advice guys, probably leaning towards the Nexus 5.
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You are comparing oranges to apples.

caribouxda said:
You are comparing oranges to apples.
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I don't disagree, it's a comparison I must consider nevertheless.
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