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[Q] GSM-based location

Hello,
My problem is that the phone does not locate its approx. right position when signed in gsm network. There are some applications which need this info e.g. weather apps. or apps relating to public traffic.
I do not want to keep gps or wifi on at all times and consuming battery life in an intensive way.
Earlier this function worked fine with HTC one V. But today it does not work with HTC One SV. Is this problem about settings or hardware malfunction? Is it a known issue anyway?
thanks for help,
Steven
HTC One SV
Android 4.1.2
HTC Sense 4+
HTC SDK 4.65

It's not a known issue, no. Everything's fine on my SV, also on my girlfriend's. Also, it should work flawlessly out of the box; you shouldn't need to alter any setting for GSM location to work.
Maybe there's an issue with your provider?

TVTV said:
It's not a known issue, no. Everything's fine on my SV, also on my girlfriend's. Also, it should work flawlessly out of the box; you shouldn't need to alter any setting for GSM location to work.
Maybe there's an issue with your provider?
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Are you sure about it? If you enter google maps with no gps on the phone is able to find your position?
Browsing internet I am begining to convince myself that Android 4.1 does not include mobile-cell-based location.

have you enabled google location settings?

ipit said:
have you enabled google location settings?
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Sure. It ticked all the option except for gps. But it locates position only with gps. Google map, weather app etc do not work with gps off.

szitya1980 said:
Sure. It ticked all the option except for gps. But it locates position only with gps. Google map, weather app etc do not work with gps off.
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Google maps is showing my location without GPS, so i think it should basicly work for you too!

szitya1980 said:
Are you sure about it? If you enter google maps with no gps on the phone is able to find your position?
Browsing internet I am begining to convince myself that Android 4.1 does not include mobile-cell-based location.
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Yes, i am sure about it. If i run GMaps with an active mobile internet connection, it is able to pinpoint my location without any issues whatsoever. I'm running the stock version of HTC's latest firmware, no root, no S-OFF.

TVTV said:
Yes, i am sure about it. If i run GMaps with an active mobile internet connection, it is able to pinpoint my location without any issues whatsoever. I'm running the stock version of HTC's latest firmware, no root, no S-OFF.
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Yesterday i updated to 4.2.2 and now it functions normally and picks locaton on gsm cell. Interesting that it did not work with 4.1.2.

[Q] Wifi & network location unavailable after switching location off & on again

[Q] Wifi & network location unavailable after switching location off & on again
Hi there,
I found this strange but reproduceable bug on my N5's location services and was wondering if it's the same for you.
Turn off location via settings or quick settings
Turn it back on
You'll be asked to accept Google location terms
Switch to battery saving mode (only wifi & network, no GPS)
After these steps, my N5 cannot find it's location via Wifi & mobile network anymore. In Maps it might still show the blue dot but moving around it won't update. When using any other app which will try to get a fresh location it's a no go. Like Google+, try and make a post with location, no joy.
I have to reboot to get it working again.

Did you agree to those Google terms? If not that's the reason...

cawith said:
Did you agree to those Google terms? If not that's the reason...
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I agreed to those of course. If you cancel that it will turn back to device (GPS) only

Sander M said:
I agreed to those of course. If you cancel that it will turn back to device (GPS) only
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Strange. Are you running stock ROM? I had no problem doing the thing you described.

cawith said:
Strange. Are you running stock ROM? I had no problem doing the thing you described.
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Just got it 2 weeks ago, all is stock, locked and original.
Did you try any other app besides Maps? That sometimes uses last known location and shows blue icon.

Sander M said:
Just got it 2 weeks ago, all is stock, locked and original.
Did you try any other app besides Maps? That sometimes uses last known location and shows blue icon.
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You're right, mine also won't find my position without GPS. However a reboot fixes it for me.

Somewhat glad to see others having this bug too. Indeed a reboot fixes it right up so it's not a huge deal.
Under normal circumstances I would't change this setting ever, but when I just got my N5 I wanted to test the GPS only feature. After turning it back to Battery saver I noticed and started investigating what caused it.
Thanks for testing mate!

Sander M said:
Somewhat glad to see others having this bug too. Indeed a reboot fixes it right up so it's not a huge deal.
Under normal circumstances I would't change this setting ever, but when I just got my N5 I wanted to test the GPS only feature. After turning it back to Battery saver I noticed and started investigating what caused it.
Thanks for testing mate!
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No problem. I'm glad also to be aware of it now, so that I can avoid standing somewhere I need and it won't find it

Anyone else willing to try this? The N5 from a friend of mine did not show this behavior. And another did. Weird bug.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

I have the problem on my 16 GB black nexus 5 with stock Rom and no root. I tested with dalvik and art but the problem exist. I have found 3 solutions:
1- reboot phone (temporary solution)
2- stop Google Play Services (temporary solution)
3- uninstall updates of Google Play Services use with stock/no update (permanent solution)
one more thing; when I can't get a location fix with network/wireless GPS mode on Google Maps or any other application, I can see a circle on " Yandex Navigation" that shows my location.
but more interesting thing is I can see a circle that shows my location on Yandex Navigation when my GPS is completely off.
I think this problem is about Google Play Services or Google Location Services. I hope someone find a solution.

ymeksur said:
I have the problem on my 16 GB black nexus 5 with stock Rom and no root. I tested with dalvik and art but the problem exist. I have found 3 solutions:
1- reboot phone (temporary solution)
2- stop Google Play Services (temporary solution)
3- uninstall updates of Google Play Services use with stock/no update (permanent solution)
one more thing; when I can't get a location fix with network/wireless GPS mode on Google Maps or any other application, I can see a circle on " Yandex Navigation" that shows my location.
but more interesting thing is I can see a circle that shows my location on Yandex Navigation when my GPS is completely off.
I think this problem is about Google Play Services or Google Location Services. I hope someone find a solution.
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Thanks for your (rigorous :good tests.
Reboot was the one I used to fix it, didn't know about the others you found.
In a strange way glad to see it's a software bug, which means it's fixable. I guess the friend I mentioned has not updated the Play services ever, that would explain why he is not affected.

happens to me as well on a Nexus 7 (2013). I've found that battery drains faster even when in deep sleep

Me and my colleague also have this issue...
Completely wiped and factory reset to stock, same prob.
Reboot solves it until you turn location services off and on again, or go from "device only" mode to "battery saving".
A quicker way then reboot (reboot actually does the same as this step) is go to settings, apps, running, Google Services (you might have 2), there STOP the GoogleLocationService (it will stop and reload the service)
Location should work again in battery saving mode...

Thanks for that one Foggy79!
Reboot or restarting the google play services takes much longer (especially when you have to disable ADM first) then your trick of only stopping the only location service.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

Sander M said:
Thanks for that one Foggy79!
Reboot or restarting the google play services takes much longer (especially when you have to disable ADM first) then your trick of only stopping the only location service.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk
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No problem.
I just reproduced the issue on an other colleague's N5, that makes 3 ppl here in the office, can't be coincidence.
If the GoogleLocationService could restart automatically when you turn on "Location" and agree the terms, that would be great...

Foggy79 said:
No problem.
I just reproduced the issue on an other colleague's N5, that makes 3 ppl here in the office, can't be coincidence.
If the GoogleLocationService could restart automatically when you turn on "Location" and agree the terms, that would be great...
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It appears the issue is fixed for me.
I have Google Play services 4.3.24 so it might be fixed behind our backs.
Now when you turn the location off and on again, the GoogleLocationService is automaticly restarted also

Fixed for me as well with the new Google Play Services!
The new version now indeed restarts the LocationService again.
I'm glad Google also reads XDA (j/k)

Now if they can get GoogleLocationsManager and NlpLocationsReciever to stop running when Locations Services are turned off completely, that'd be great.
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Google now doesn't work

hi guys please help me I have nexus 5 and android 4.4.2 official I'm from Iraq and I can't access google now this is a picture from my device.

It says you have no location services. Did you freeze location services? Do location services work?
Sent from my cell phone telephone....

kj2112 said:
It says you have no location services. Did you freeze location services? Do location services work?
Sent from my cell phone telephone....
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no i didn't freezed any thing this picture from my phone after installing new rom

Maybe location is broken on this rom? Which rom is it ? Try to use google maps or something like that to check location ?

Just turn on Location Services, as it's needed for Google Now (as it says on screen)

EddyOS said:
Just turn on Location Services, as it's needed for Google Now (as it says on screen)
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Nope. Google now does not need location services running. It doesn't know your location tho, so asking the time or weather....you sometimes need to specify where, like, what's the weather tomorrow in new york city. Or what time is it in wherever. And saying navigate to wherever wont work, since the phone wont know where you are. I just toggle location on to do that. Then off after again.
Otherwise location can be totally off and Google now should still work.
So it may be a rom issue he has....or a corruption with Google now.
Try clearing data and cache for Google now, location services, and Google framework. Only idea I have.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....

but i have two devices having this problem the rom is clean and works good

Google Maps not detecting Location

Hi guys,
Google maps is not able to detect my location when not on wifi. It thinks I am where my home is (shows a grey dot instead of blue when locating).
I am using GPS in high accuracy mode, google reporthing is enabled and I used another app to detect my location and it works so I am not quite sure what is going on..
Any idea?
Cheers

nad4321 said:
Hi guys,
Google maps is not able to detect my location when not on wifi. It thinks I am where my home is (shows a grey dot instead of blue when locating).
I am using GPS in high accuracy mode, google reporthing is enabled and I used another app to detect my location and it works so I am not quite sure what is going on..
Any idea?
Cheers
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The GPS antenna might be loose. You can test the GPS itself with Device Only mode to see.

bblzd said:
The GPS antenna might be loose. You can test the GPS itself with Device Only mode to see.
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It detects the correct location works fine in other apps is just google maps :/

nad4321 said:
It detects the correct location works fine in other apps is just google maps :/
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Had the same problem a while ago because I changed the location permission settings with App Ops X for Google Services or something.
If you haven't hacked permissions ignore this post.

tCC said:
Had the same problem a while ago because I changed the location permission settings with App Ops X for Google Services or something.
If you haven't hacked permissions ignore this post.
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I might actually have done something with App Opps... How did yuo fix it?

nad4321 said:
I might actually have done something with App Opps... How did yuo fix it?
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Check Google Maps, Google Play or Google Services etc to check if location, monitor location, etc is enabled

tCC said:
Check Google Maps, Google Play or Google Services etc to check if location, monitor location, etc is enabled
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It worked! Thanks!

Gmaps not working without internet connection

Hi,
I'm currently in Thailand for holidays and had to realize that without an internet connection, Google maps don't work properly.
When I start the app I got the position immediately but it doesn't update. So the blue dot stays at the same spot until it finally turns grey.
I also had the same problem with other map apps.
Weirdly, navigation DOES work!
So, whenever I go into navigation mode I'm navigated without a hitch...
Anyone else faced the problem and knows how to resolve it?
I tried all the obvious... Checked permissions, uninstalled maps and Google play services after deleting date, logged out of my Google account, cleared cache in recovery...
Oh and by the way... Location history doesn't work. But I guess that's because it's a China rom?!
Thanks!
Jan

jaytee86 said:
Hi,
I'm currently in Thailand for holidays and had to realize that without an internet connection, Google maps don't work properly.
When I start the app I got the position immediately but it doesn't update. So the blue dot stays at the same spot until it finally turns grey.
I also had the same problem with other map apps.
Weirdly, navigation DOES work!
So, whenever I go into navigation mode I'm navigated without a hitch...
Anyone else faced the problem and knows how to resolve it?
I tried all the obvious... Checked permissions, uninstalled maps and Google play services after deleting date, logged out of my Google account, cleared cache in recovery...
Oh and by the way... Location history doesn't work. But I guess that's because it's a China rom?!
Thanks!
Jan
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I dont really know what you mean with "Google Maps doesnt work properly", I only know, that you can download offline maps when you have wlan, so maybe that's a possibility?

Emare212 said:
I dont really know what you mean with "Google Maps doesnt work properly", I only know, that you can download offline maps when you have wlan, so maybe that's a possibility?
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No of course I got maps downloaded.
As described ( ) there's a problem with the GPS.
I only get a GPS fix immediately when I open Google maps (after force close). Then GPS connection is lost immediately (blue dot doesn't move and becomes grey).
Zero idea why... As navigation with Google maps works flawlessly - also in offline mode.

jaytee86 said:
No of course I got maps downloaded.
As described ( ) there's a problem with the GPS.
I only get a GPS fix immediately when I open Google maps (after force close). Then GPS connection is lost immediately (blue dot doesn't move and becomes grey).
Zero idea why... As navigation with Google maps works flawlessly - also in offline mode.
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Oh ok, now I know what you mean
Never faced this issue. For me Maps (also in non navigation mode) works fine. Maybe something with the aggressive power saving mode from emui?

Emare212 said:
Oh ok, now I know what you mean
Never faced this issue. For me Maps (also in non navigation mode) works fine. Maybe something with the aggressive power saving mode from emui?
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That's what I was thinking...
Have you ever tried using maps in flight mode (GPS on of course)?
Because back home (with 3g/mobile internet) maps worked fine I think.
EDIT: one more interesting thing... I realized GPS works for a short time (like 10 minutes) after I was connected to a WiFi. Then it stops working.