Magnets + S-pen bad... Is Samsung Book Cover OK? - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Accessories

I've read that magnets are not good for the s-pen digitizer. I assume Samsung knows about this and the official Samsung book cover is OK?
Have there been any reports or concerns over the book cover causing problems after long term use?

rumatt said:
I've read that magnets are not good for the s-pen digitizer. I assume Samsung knows about this and the official Samsung book cover is OK?
Have there been any reports or concerns over the book cover causing problems after long term use?
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it's fine with the official book cover
i think it's an issue mostly with 3rd party apps that have a stronger magnet

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S-View Cover Interferes the Compass

I love my original s-View cover but it interferes my s4 compass especially with the cover is folded to the back of the phone. I can clearly see how the cover changes the direction of the Google Map compass while flipping the cover.
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That's because there's a magnet in it to activate the hal sensor to tell the screen to go to s-veiw window
If you take a magnet and put it where the sensor is on the phone with the s-veiw cover open your screen will change like if the cover is closed
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If the S-View covers work with the aid of a magnet, how does this one work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281100942769
As I understand, no magnets here and yet they claim it has all S-View abilities!
PS ... anyone bought this cover? If yes, is this latched on to the built in battery cover or does it reduce bulk by replacing the battery cover?
Thanks
Paparasee said:
If the S-View covers work with the aid of a magnet, how does this one work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281100942769
As I understand, no magnets here and yet they claim it has all S-View abilities!
PS ... anyone bought this cover? If yes, is this latched on to the built in battery cover or does it reduce bulk by replacing the battery cover?
Thanks
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Got to have a magnet to trigger the S4 S-View mode on the display. Doesn't say it's got a magnet in the listing, then again doesn't say it hasn't.... Looks like it's got kind of a tpu case which snaps round the phone and the cover is glued onto that.
Paparasee said:
If the S-View covers work with the aid of a magnet, how does this one work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281100942769
As I understand, no magnets here and yet they claim it has all S-View abilities!
PS ... anyone bought this cover? If yes, is this latched on to the built in battery cover or does it reduce bulk by replacing the battery cover?
Thanks
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I have this cover. It does not replace the battery cover, but fits over it. However, the "leather" is very thin, so the case doesn't really add much bulk. The s-view function works perfectly. However, I won't continue to use this case once a better s-view case comes out. The part that holds the phone in the case doesn't cover the corners of the phone, so they are vulnerable if the phone is dropped. And, the front of the case could easily open if the phone is dropped, so there is no protection for the front of the phone, either. I really prefer flip cases, because I ruined an expensive phone by dropping it, so I want something that protects the phone. I really like the s-view option, but this isn't the case for me.
I got a cheap copy of the S-View which fits perfectly and works just as good. Unfortunately it seems the magnet is too strong because the S-View mode activates when I fold the cover around the back!
Is there any way to fix this?
Yeah do what I did, take it off, throw it into the corner in disgust, and put a tpu flip case on instead.
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MadBob said:
Yeah do what I did, take it off, throw it into the corner in disgust, and put a tpu flip case on instead.
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Dude, do you have a link to the one you bought - does it work just like the S-View?
I have the cover from Tridea. Got it yesterday.
It is actually quite nice and protects the phone better than the original S-view case. However, this is magnetic too and makes the compass more or less unusable.
Aitch said:
I got a cheap copy of the S-View which fits perfectly and works just as good. Unfortunately it seems the magnet is too strong because the S-View mode activates when I fold the cover around the back!
Is there any way to fix this?
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I'm wondering this too. I paid $7, versus $60, so I can't complain, but I would LOVE to find out that the authentic ones actually fix this critical issue.
Why not buy an original one, guaranteed to work. I have had mine since day one and works great, even when flipped back. I can post a video. If need be.
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TotalMusic said:
Why not buy an original one, guaranteed to work. I have had mine since day one and works great, even when flipped back. I can post a video. If need be.
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But does the compass work?
marlar said:
But does the compass work?
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When the case is open or closed.
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TotalMusic said:
When the case is open or closed.
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If you open a compass app, does it point to the right directions (south, north etc) even when you slowly rotate the phone horizontally?
marlar said:
If you open a compass app, does it point to the right directions (south, north etc) even when you slowly rotate the phone horizontally?
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Maybe it is different for you, but the compass on the S4 sucks with or without the S-Cover. It constantly need recalibrating on many of these phones.
scott14719 said:
Maybe it is different for you, but the compass on the S4 sucks with or without the S-Cover. It constantly need recalibrating on many of these phones.
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I agree. What is the reason for this though? Is it a software problem that could be fixed with an update, or a hardware problem which is pretty much permanent?
My S4 S-View (original) cover definitely interferes with compass readings. As this is an original Samsung case I find this quite incredible how this has been overlooked.
With the case on and open, my compass app would always point in the same direction.
Gradual movement of the front cover from the open to closed position would quickly alter the compass bearing etc.
I decided to ditch the S-View cover for the standard one for the following reasons:
1. Affects compass bearings as described
2. Unable to see notification LED when the cover is closed. (it is in fact not enabled at all when its closed)
3. I'd rather see my full screen caller ID on an incoming call than the small S-View window. I know if you open the case you will then see the caller ID screen, but I'd prefer to see it from the offset.
Only drawback now is that I hate leaving the screen uncovered so I've put a screen protector on, and I can never get to fit one perfectly...I always seem to get one or two specs of dust that cause bubbles.
Aitch said:
I agree. What is the reason for this though? Is it a software problem that could be fixed with an update, or a hardware problem which is pretty much permanent?
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I am guessing it is a hardware issue because several people have the problem (there is a thread in the "general" section about it) and it doesn't seem to matter which app or APK is used with it, it has the same issues and needs to be recalibrated periodically to work properly.
TotalMusic said:
Why not buy an original one, guaranteed to work. I have had mine since day one and works great, even when flipped back. I can post a video. If need be.
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Well, it's tough to purchase a legit one sometimes, and knowing IF that design flaw doesn't exist in an authentic version would make it worth it.
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Fixed it myself. I pried open the fabric, took out the magnet, put a nail between the magnet and the hammer to shatter it, and put back half a disc. Works perfectly.
I have the original S-view cover and if I slowly open or close the cover over the phone, the compass changes values, and I even got a notification in compass app regarding the magnetic field while playing with the cover.
Is there any way to repair this behavior while keeping the S-view functionality?

Yet another case thread, what to buy?

Hi fellows,
I realize there are already a number of threads for Note 8 case discussion, and what I am going to ask is also what others have asked in different threads. Still, I want to get a clear answer, if at all possible.
I'm a proud owner of N5110, and now trying to decide on a case. I've found amazing looking leather cases on amazon.de but they all seem to have sleep/wake function, which translates into, the cover has magnet. Now, I've been reading about all the people complaining about magnet case causing permanent damage to something in the screen that causes the S-Pen to stop working on the spots where magnet come into contact with the screen. Then I also see that some people are denying it, saying it doesn't make sense. Then I know that Samsung's original folio case has magnet in it. So, what's the deal?
For anyone interested in these cool cases, here are the links:
http://www.amazon.de/Manna-UltraSli...-sportroten/dp/B00COKD04C/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_3
http://www.amazon.de/Boenso-Design-...onsfunktion/dp/B00BZ3NG5M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_2
http://www.amazon.de/UltraSlim-Tasc...tion/dp/B00C323U7I/ref=pd_sim_sbs_computers_4
Also, is there are point in buying original Samsung screen protector or a €5 protector off of eBay works as good?
Thanks!
malikons said:
I've been reading about all the people complaining about magnet case causing permanent damage to something in the screen that causes the S-Pen to stop working on the spots where magnet come into contact with the screen. Then I also see that some people are denying it, saying it doesn't make sense. Then I know that Samsung's original folio case has magnet in it. So, what's the deal?
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My suspicion would be the strength of the magnet. So unless there are others with testimonies on whether a certain 3rd party case does or does not affect the screen, there is probably no way to know before you buy. Or if you really like the looks of a case, you may be able to cut and remove the magnet, without affecting the looks of the case too much. Or of course, you can get a case without the sleep/wake function.

Remove magnet from Moko slim case

Has anyone removed the sleep/wake magnet from the Moko case yet? I just got mine in the mail and want to remove it but it seems pretty well integrated. I found where it is but can't tell if it runs along the whole length of the left side of the cover
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tomhub389 said:
Has anyone removed the sleep/wake magnet from the Moko case yet? I just got mine in the mail and want to remove it but it seems pretty well integrated. I found where it is but can't tell if it runs along the whole length of the left side of the cover
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It's only one small magnet, the size of an eraser. It's underneath the elastic handle. Rub your fingernail over the area and you'll slowly find a circular outline. Took 30 seconds to remove!
Sorry, I actually have the other moko case without the hand strap. The faux leather smart cover that looks similar to the poetic slim case. I found the sleep/wake magnets over the middle left side of the screen and removed them but the cover still sleep/wakes my screen. Don't understand how and why unless I missed some magnets
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drag a magnet over the case and you should be able to find it.
may i ask why you want to remove it? the only tablet I've used that has a functional sleep cover has been my nook hd+. ipad and gn10.1 would have unusual drain when using it. my 500t has issues with waking up from sleep (all atom wintabs seem to) so i got rid of that magnet. never did get a case with a magnet for my 700t.
madsquabbles said:
drag a magnet over the case and you should be able to find it.
may i ask why you want to remove it? the only tablet I've used that has a functional sleep cover has been my nook hd+. ipad and gn10.1 would have unusual drain when using it. my 500t has issues with waking up from sleep (all atom wintabs seem to) so i got rid of that magnet. never did get a case with a magnet for my 700t.
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There are a number of threads on various forums concerning the Note 8 screen becoming dead to tactile input where the magnetic field of the cover is located. Interestingly, this has been noticed with the official Samsung book cover case.
What I have found using a Poetic case that has a metal (but not magnetic) clasp to keep the cover in the closed position activates the Note 8's sleep and wakeup modes just fine.
cataloochee said:
There are a number of threads on various forums concerning the Note 8 screen becoming dead to tactile input where the magnetic field of the cover is located. Interestingly, this has been noticed with the official Samsung book cover case.
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Can someone kindly point me to some of the threads discussing this? I did a Google search and only find where the magnets mess with the compass and S-pen in certain cases.
I've used the moko with s pen for over a couple of weeks and have noticed nothing. I've even scribbled all over the pad.....nothing. Great value.
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schimm said:
I've used the moko with s pen for over a couple of weeks and have noticed nothing. I've even scribbled all over the pad.....nothing. Great value.
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Me, too. Almost a month, and I haven't had any problems yet.
i've got a poetic and haven't had any problems...yet.

is magnetic cover for note 5100 is safe to use?

Is safe to use magnetic book cover for note 5100 .......is their will be battery issue with long term use?
I have attache book cover pic
rabichowdhary said:
Is safe to use magnetic book cover for note 5100 .......is their will be battery issue with long term use?
I have attache book cover pic
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To be quite honest, I just bought my note 8 used on ebay and got it literally yesterday. However, I have been reading a lot of reviews. I haven't heard of the battery being affected by them (apple uses similar covers with magnets), but I have heard of the magnets messing with the wacom tech the s-pen uses.
rabichowdhary said:
Is safe to use magnetic book cover for note 5100 .......is their will be battery issue with long term use?
I have attache book cover pic
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I have been using similar cover(white) since june.
only thing I did was take out the magnets from behind so that they don't interfere with s-pen.
The magnets are just not powerful enough to cause issues with battery(Li-ion/poly) if that all is your primary concern.
In Case if you want to take the magnets out,
just take tablet out, then use a small coin and put it on the tablet and coin should pretty much stick to where the magnets are. once you have nailed the location (small disc magnets), just use a cutter blade to slice the back paper/fabric s bit and you should be able to take out those discs.
put the tablet back in and should be good to go.
Do note that the side flap will stop working once you take magnets out.
thnks for rply
intelliriffer said:
I have been using similar cover(white) since june.
only thing I did was take out the magnets from behind so that they don't interfere with s-pen.
The magnets are just not powerful enough to cause issues with battery(Li-ion/poly) if that all is your primary concern.
In Case if you want to take the magnets out,
just take tablet out, then use a small coin and put it on the tablet and coin should pretty much stick to where the magnets are. once you have nailed the location (small disc magnets), just use a cutter blade to slice the back paper/fabric s bit and you should be able to take out those discs.
put the tablet back in and should be good to go.
Do note that the side flap will stop working once you take magnets out.
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thanks for the helpfull reply buddy
new look of flip case
rabichowdhary said:
thanks for the helpfull reply buddy
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Here what I have done with flip case
I had my Note 8 in a magnetic case for six months with no problems of any kind. I checked it periodically to be safe, and even with a broken screen, the S-pen still works perfectly.
I think it depends on the case design and maybe how strong the magnet is. I tried a case I bought on Amazon that had the flap or buckle type design and it immediately caused problems writing on the screen. I scribbled the pen back and forth.
I'll try to attach a photo of it where you can clearly see the magnet distortion it left on the screen where the pen could not write. It went away after I removed the case.
I scribbled on the left side also because a magnet was there also that turned the tablet on and off, but that magnet caused no problem.
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thnks for sharing
TC93 said:
I think it depends on the case design and maybe how strong the magnet is. I tried a case I bought on Amazon that had the flap or buckle type design and it immediately caused problems writing on the screen. I scribbled the pen back and forth.
I'll try to attach a photo of it where you can clearly see the magnet distortion it left on the screen where the pen could not write. It went away after I removed the case.
I scribbled on the left side also because a magnet was there also that turned the tablet on and off, but that magnet caused no problem.
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thanks for sharing -.-. - -. by the way what note taking App you are using ?
rabichowdhary said:
thanks for sharing -.-. - -. by the way what note taking App you are using ?
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That app in the screenshot is the free app called Write, that was mentioned by some others in another thread. I like it. There are a couple others I like also, such as Papyrus or Lecture Notes, but I don't know a whole lot about them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414706
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just got my Note 8 last week.
got a case from amazon... Poetic flip case.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ2Y71E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it has a on/off feature.
it uses a clasp to hold closed... not magnet.
I have heard a little about the magnet and issues with some digitizers.
it don't seem to affect it. how else can I tell when it causes problems?
will it be permanent?
how many magnets are on the case?
I thought there was only 1.. to do the on/off feature
I've been using this case for a year .. MOKO Slim Cover, without a single problem :
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Slim-Cov...o+note+8&pebp=1421914943329&peasin=B00B4BEAM8
I'm guessing it's safe to use cases with magnetic covers as the majority of the probably use very low power magnets, which won't cause any interferance with your device.
Hi all,
Been using the official Flip Case with my Note 8.0 LTE and no battery issues at all.
I did notice that if the front cover is misaligned by even 1/2 a centimeter, it does activate the device, so make sure when you close it its not askew, even slightly.

Looking for flip covers

I bought a flip cover (horizontal, book/wallet style) together with my note 4, it's one of these cheap ones from amazon that have a magnetic strip to keep it closed.
The problem is that magnetic strip, it seems it interferes with the s-pen making it completely unusable.
Another problem is that 90% of the flip covers on amazon (at least in europe and looking for a while) have that magnetic strip.
I used to have this one back on my note 2 http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B009P6TG82 and I never found anything better than that, it's too bad there's no note 4 version.
Any idea if there are any like that? The official samsung ones do look good but it seems they replace the back, this means I can't easily remove the cover for insertion in a car dock.
Speck flipcover coming soon
Jackomel said:
I bought a flip cover (horizontal, book/wallet style) together with my note 4, it's one of these cheap ones from amazon that have a magnetic strip to keep it closed.
The problem is that magnetic strip, it seems it interferes with the s-pen making it completely unusable.
Another problem is that 90% of the flip covers on amazon (at least in europe and looking for a while) have that magnetic strip.
I used to have this one back on my note 2 http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B009P6TG82 and I never found anything better than that, it's too bad there's no note 4 version.
Any idea if there are any like that? The official samsung ones do look good but it seems they replace the back, this means I can't easily remove the cover for insertion in a car dock.
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Don't know how good it will be but the flipcover from Speck will be out soon. The existing flipcover they have for the Note 3 looks good and doesn't interfere with any phone/s-pen functions so I would assume it will be the same for the Note 4 version. I have always been a fan of the Speck products so I will definitely be checking it out once released. The Samsung flipcovers are nice and all, but not for $50.

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