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Galaxy S just a label?

i was wondering. what exactly makes a Galaxy S device a Galaxy s device? i hope i made sense there...
because on twitter GalaxySsupport replied to a question i had originally asked to Samsungsupport about the infuse.

more or less. there are many phones named galaxy from samsung. then the galaxy s line came out, then the galaxy s conntinuum. then the galaxy indulge on metro pcs. then the i9003. galaxy s had a narrow line of hardware at first then they played with screens now the whole hardware profile can vary. the infuse is more galaxy s than the galaxy indulge, or the i9003. now they have the galaxy s 2 and will soon have the galaxy s 2 mini and galaxy s+ which will supposedly be based on a quallcom cpu.. so although the infuse has different gps hardware and mhl the radio is likely the same as the t959v sgs4g and is otherwise a galaxy s. samsung said it doesnt have the hardware requirements to be called a galaxy s when asked but it only seems to have hardware improvements. the audio chip is the same, the processor is the same, other phones called galaxy dont meet those requirements, and the phone is also capable of running gps and the camera while making phone calls, the sgs cant do either. im not really sure what game samsung is playing here but it seems galaxy s has been demoted to a label and att maybe didnt want that label because of the bugs and lack of support people think it had.

It seems to be a just a label. I mean this is way batter than any galaxy device out there. Poeple all up on dual core (I was one of them), what exactly do you need so much power for? How fast are you typing that you need a phone to keep up with you. The only phone that does require it would he the atrix because of its lapdock. But even then dual core seems to be a way to drain your battery if you don't know how to set up the phone correctly. And Samsung directed my question to the Galaxy S twitter account. I still think this phone meets and exceeds the requirements for a Galaxy S device.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.

multi core is hard to utilize fully(has to do with the way things are processed and applications are written) but the step from one to two can feel like a big difference in some situations. any lag caused by background services can disappear because there is a non busy processor core ready to go. the lag difference can give the perception of performance even if the actual speed something is processed at is not much faster. if a dual core comes out that has great battery life and no heat issues im sure it will be great. dual core doesnt throw me off that much, what gets me however is they are already talking about 4 core chips for phones! please figure out a way to make the architecture smaller or make 3d architecture like they have been talking about for years so we can get more hz and less power usage. it cant be easy to parallelize applications with simple functions that are written in java.
multi core is great for benchmarking but beyond 2 cores i dont see the point on a small screen and one is perfectly acceptable.

Atrix dual core. Lag and heat central on that phone.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

My atrix got very hot as well. I haven't noticed any speed difference between my atrix and the infuse. I think overall the infuse is a far superior device.

i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.

I think I'm pretty much set with the Infuse.
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Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.

Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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OMG LOL. Epic fail. I knew something was up with that phone. LOL
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Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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the infuse gpu can keep up with some kernel tweaks and api support for tegra based games. the sgs renders some things better(not sure if that's true in a technical sense but certain benchmarks look more natueral) and in most cases can run similar frame rates, some overclocking and the sgx power vr540 gpu is a beast. dual core helps in games that are written for dual core especially if it uses tegra2 specific APIs, chainfire's chainfire 3d may help with that situation.
and well dual core would only help with lag caused by multi tasking. a laggy launcher on a single core may be just as laggy on a dual core(unless it is multi threaded), but a snappy launcher may lag if there is a background service running on a single core but is not likely lag to on a dual core even with background services. i guess i wasnt specific enough.
i guess im only reinforcing the idea that dual core is marketing nonsense because unless you are a multi tasking junkie you wont notice a bit of difference 90% of the time.

h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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a large portion of the boot process is probably in one large thread making dual core useless untill the ui starts. though having the core ready would mean you could start playing with things while the ui is still loading making the wait for everything to load less annoying.

Dani897 said:
i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.
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What are the audio issues on the attain?

nstong said:
What are the audio issues on the attain?
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well the attain isnt tested yet, maybe i should have said sgs2. if the attain is the same as the sgs2 international supercurio wasnt very happy with the audio, and audio is important to me. it has a yamaha chip not a wolfson. not that yamaha is bad but it appears that the chip may be faulty or something. also wolfson was very cooperative in providing drivers and sources for supercurio's voodoo project. im sure it actually sounds good with the exception of the noise level. there are some clicking or popping issues from what i understand. i use in ear headphones and im sure id be able t to hear it.

Transformer27 said:
I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.
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Just making sure about this, but you do mean a 1.0 Ghz processor on Galaxy S right? lol

my bad yeah. furious typing at the moment of doing the list. lol

Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) - Games Focus

Hi all, for those of you interested, I shot a video focus on the GT-I9505 performance while running cpu/gpu intensive games like Real Racing 3, Need For Speed Most Wanted, Asphalt 7, Dead Trigger, etc
http://youtu.be/Ibj_o5YahhM
Ciaoooooo

Very nice video!
One concern that I had, and now after watching this video is an even bigger concern, is gaming performance. Overall all games are somewhat lagging, I believe that this is due to the high resolution, that not only it has to process more pixels, but also requires additional video memory, which I believe is shared with the system memory.
I got very excited to buy this phone after S4 GE announcement, but now I'm skeptical, I have seen the Nexus 4 running games a lot smoother than this and I'm worried I will have to upgrade again soon in the future for a phone with a better GPU like Adreno 330 to be able to play newer games in 1920x1080 while the Nexus 4 could still play the same game smoothly.
What do you guys think? are you also disappointed with gaming performance?

sniperbr0 said:
Very nice video!
One concern that I had, and now after watching this videos is an even bigger concern, is gaming performance. Overall all games are somewhat lagging, I believe that this is due to the high resolution, that not only has to process more pixels, but also requires additional video memory, which I believe is shared with the system memory.
I got very excited to buy this phone after S4 GE announcement, but now I'm skeptical, I have seen the Nexus 4 running games a lot smoother than this and I'm worried I will have to upgrade again soon in the future for a phone with a better GPU like Adreno 330 to be able to play newer games in 1920x1080 while the Nexus 4 could still play the same game smoothly.
What do you guys think? are you also disappointed with gaming performance?
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Frankly speaking, I'm disappointed for the whole performance experience with my GT-I9505. The whole system it's not perfectly smooth and there's some stuttering here and there. The same issue obviously happen during games, although it's not so noticeable.
To be honest, any device I tried with the recent Qualcomm architecture (I mean both APQ8064 and APQ8064T Snapdragon 600), screen resolution apart, was not completely smooth during games like NFSMW or Real Racing 3. And, just to give a term of comparison, I had: PadFone 2, Nexus 4, Xperia Z, Optimus G, HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505). On Android OS, I could just see the Galaxy Note 2 (Exynos and Mali of course) running almost perfectly smooth Need For Speed Most Wanted. Then, I wouldn't be that worried about games and even more about general performances of GT-I9505. Samsung it's relatively new to APQ8064(T), then I guess it can only get better in the next updates.

Any game not running perfect on this phone just needs optimization that's all. The soc is relatively new in most regards, and aside from the mali-t6, has the most capable graphics card out there. The mali 400 used in the s2 through the note 2 handle every game just about prefect.
Swyped from a minimalist S2

how abouti9500 one and is it better:? they gave me this version im so sad and i forced to chose this phone

I think octa is more for gamming, gpu have more Power, some games really need optimizations
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matheus_sc said:
I think octa is more for gamming, gpu have more Power, some games really need optimizations
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Dont think so
The 320 is on the same level as the power vr , according to some sites , the adreno is little bit better
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Playing real racing and fpse and had never a lag and a slow down.
Most people which say s4 is slow use the crappy touchwiz interface.
I can tell you guys its not the phone or the hardware which is laggy,its just touchwiz.
Get rid of it and you will never have a lag,launcher redraw or a slow down anymore
Edit:
I run a superslim deodexed and pre rooted 4.2.2 rom and have no lag and perfect battery life.
Just try it guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
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MultiLockOn said:
Any game not running perfect on this phone just needs optimization that's all. The soc is relatively new in most regards, and aside from the mali-t6, has the most capable graphics card out there. The mali 400 used in the s2 through the note 2 handle every game just about prefect.
Swyped from a minimalist S2
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Yeah I think it's this and a combination of the Touchwiz interface and other bloated apps / processes.
optimising games for the phones hardware will increase performance in terms of average fps and that sort of thing but these random dips and microstutters we see are caused by background processes and services. Touchwiz is the main culprit but not the only culprit.

kamranhaghighi said:
how abouti9500 one and is it better:? they gave me this version im so sad and i forced to chose this phone
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The 9500 uses the Octacore. It's a little bit more powerful than the APQ8064T you can find into the 9505.
On the other side, you will just have HSPA modem, not the LTE one. Only in korea for what I can remember, Samsung release an Octacore version together with an LTE modem.
If you don't need or you can't use LTE, you should have a slightly better device than the 9505.

Aratheba said:
The 9500 uses the Octacore. It's a little bit more powerful than the APQ8064T you can find into the 9505.
On the other side, you will just have HSPA modem, not the LTE one. Only in korea for what I can remember, Samsung release an Octacore version together with an LTE modem.
If you don't need or you can't use LTE, you should have a slightly better device than the 9505.
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in iran we dont even have 3g we have 2g or edge that max speed is 10kb/s! that means 80kbps! seems they are alsmot same anyway i dont ahve performance probelms and happy whit my s4 expext I FORCED TO PAY a lot of money i was goign to buy nexus 4 they gave me wrong version (8gb) they told me w dont have the 16gb so i forced to chose that! btw it wroth screen is freakigna wesome and thin and light (i dont care about weight and thin!)

devgee said:
Dont think so
The 320 is on the same level as the power vr , according to some sites , the adreno is little bit better
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Both have their advantages. Power VR can push out more FPS but the adreno has a better hexagon fill rate. The adreno 320is the newer chip and unfortunately many games are not optimized for it yet. The power vr on the I9500 is older and thus why some games will play more smoothly. If you try a game like real racing 3 you will see what I mean. However, a game like asphalt 7, both devices should handle well.

But why should Asphalt be no problem? I played it and it plays smooth Like it should. The game Epoch is running smooth but a simple game as carmaggedon has frame drop. Epoch is unreal powered and looks awsome.
Could this be because of optimizing games? I sure hope so. I love the device.
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S4 Active rumored to use Snapdragon S4 Pro

Hey guys, here we go
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Rumo...processor-under-the-hood_id43177#article_item
I think this was expected. Why? Because the model number is inferior to the original S4.
Conclusion : better build quality in change of the better cpu
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its side parts of s4

toshiba excite pro (love it)

Hey,
Must say this tablet is amazing,, screen is crisp, tegra 4 doesnt seem to really perform much different but heh the tegra 3 doesnt have to hit this res... but trust me I work for a company with a fruit as a logo and this blows all there tablets out the water//

I hope Toshiba gets a hit with their new tablets. Not an iPad hater, just prefer competition for the consumers to choose from.
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anarchyuk said:
Hey,
Must say this tablet is amazing,, screen is crisp, tegra 4 doesnt seem to really perform much different but heh the tegra 3 doesnt have to hit this res... but trust me I work for a company with a fruit as a logo and this blows all there tablets out the water//
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How warm does it run? Roughly how long is the battery life?

Ive read that the display isn't as sharp as nexus 10's ones because oft the white subpixels. Could you pls tell sth about it? +heat & +battery
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mavoso said:
Ive read that the display isn't as sharp as nexus 10's ones because oft the white subpixels. Could you pls tell sth about it? +heat & +battery
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About the screen not true imo, but about the heat part, yes it heats like a mofo when in full speed mode. When in battery saving mode it caps the cpu frequency to 1.0 and almost no heat, when its not 1.8 and heats like an oven.

How about the battery?
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bluesn0w said:
How about the battery?
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As they promised it would behave.

I'm still looking for this tablet in a retail store so that I can check it out in person. Can't seem to find anyone else selling it besides Best Buy (online only) and a few third party vendors on Amazon.

To me, Toshiba excite pro is between all tables the best!
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Well, these are my impressions:
The screen is very good
The bluetooth keyboard stand is incredibly good design. Never seen better. This magnet stuff is nicely flexible and stable as well. does work well having it on the lap like a netbook.
The performance with the stock ROM is incredibly BAD. I've got frequent lags, especially in the browser, but also when waking the device and sometimes without an apperant cause. And the most incredible thing is that this device is supposed to work on a 1.8GHz quad core - how is such a bad performance possible with such a monster processor?!

kaefert said:
Well, these are my impressions:
The screen is very good
The bluetooth keyboard stand is incredibly good design. Never seen better. This magnet stuff is nicely flexible and stable as well. does work well having it on the lap like a netbook.
The performance with the stock ROM is incredibly BAD. I've got frequent lags, especially in the browser, but also when waking the device and sometimes without an apperant cause. And the most incredible thing is that this device is supposed to work on a 1.8GHz quad core - how is such a bad performance possible with such a monster processor?!
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for me its the fastest Tablet i have ever seen. it gets warm...yes. But thats probably because it is really fast. I had an transformer prime before and this is considerably faster. (I use the aosp browser). display is sharp and crisp. not as good as my htc one but also really good.
Problems:
1. WLAN Connection is unstable (there is an Update but currently only in the us)
2. Sometimes it just wont respond to anything. Hard Restart is the only solution. (same here update should be available)
3. Root would be nice
4. would be great if some skilled user would take a deeper look...

I having excite pro almost week and did not found any fault so far.
WiFi work spotless and reconnect in matter of second (from standby or from deep sleep)
10" Screen whit light sensor is one the best on market for me.
Battery life is pretty good(five to six hours watching movies from single charge) and sound one the best I heard on tablet.
Some apps don't work well like opera browser (crashing all times) but Firefox works fine.
Abbot heat I not playing games on it but watching movies,you tube and browsing internet, no heat whats so ever (not using battery saving mode because browsing can be glitchy).
Not latest android installed on it but jelly bean 4.2.1 is pretty good and Toshiba did nice touch with apps winch almost all can be disabled inducing Toshiba one.

It looks interesting, I didn't know about them. Maybe I will look for further information.

Is there a user forum anywhere for this device?
Picked one up like so many others from Amazon for £170 knowing there would be no root option but satisfied to use it primarily for media playback.
Ive tried a couple of media files on it since arrival this morning and playback on some is a little stuttery using the Tosh's own media player and BSPLAYER. Can anyone recommend one capable of playing AVI with AC3 / MKV and x264 please.
Thanks

Just ordered one. ...
Hope its as good as u guys make out! !
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alecoddlyiv said:
Is there a user forum anywhere for this device?
Picked one up like so many others from Amazon for £170 knowing there would be no root option but satisfied to use it primarily for media playback.
Ive tried a couple of media files on it since arrival this morning and playback on some is a little stuttery using the Tosh's own media player and BSPLAYER. Can anyone recommend one capable of playing AVI with AC3 / MKV and x264 please.
Thanks
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I would use mxplayer if it works
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Also have u done firmware update? 4.3 update?

I was on 4.3 got bsplayer working properly in the end but had a look at mx as well and that seemed ok too. Thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay getting back.

alecoddlyiv said:
I was on 4.3 got bsplayer working properly in the end but had a look at mx as well and that seemed ok too. Thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay getting back.
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No worries.
My only major problem is the sound which is on the quiet side.
I'm hoping someone has a fix for that.

MSK1 said:
No worries.
My only major problem is the sound which is on the quiet side.
I'm hoping someone has a fix for that.
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Will have to check my version but Bsplayer volume goes up to 200% when using my finger on the screen where using the volume rocker it only goes up to 70%.
Would be nice to have somewhere us excite pro users could call our own.
If we did I would be able to ask questions like
1 - Is Angry Birds Go crashing for anybody else?
2 - What launchers is everyone using?
3 - What browser is everyone using as chrome seems a little clunky?
1 is now fixed following recent upgrade

This is an excellent device for the cost excellent. ..
Except sound. It's just not loud enough. Sound is excellent just not loud enough

I too have one, love it but the lack of root is frustrating. However, I have discovered that most of the updated Google apps can be sideloaded. This morning I updated the stock email Client to the one that ships with KitKat and it works flawlessly with the new exchange services. Going to look at seeing if anything else can be taken across.
Ran quadrant on my rooted Asus Memo pad and the Tosh and the Tosh scored double and more. The only area it is weaker in is 3d graphics which does surprise me.

DAC brand...?

What is the DAC on this beast..kind of a major factor in my decision...
Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, do close this thread in that case
Edited in response to the reply below...
I meant Digital Audio Converter..the sound quality of the phone depends on it.
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what...

The Jack of Clubs said:
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Digital Audio Converter
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you mean the sound processor? i imagine itll be the same as on all qualcomm soc's. i think only htc uses their own discrete solution.

meletios said:
Digital Audio Converter
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Hey man, maybe you are talking about DSP? Digital Signal Processing? Hexagon, QDSP6V5A, 600MHz included in SoC Snapdragon 801.
Info from here http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/801

Whatever Qualcomm WCD9xxx variant is usually paried with 800/801 chips.
The Hexagon is not the DAC.
There's also an Audience ES325, likely mostly for microphone processing during calls.

meletios said:
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It actually stands for Digital (to) Analog Converter, just for the record.
And since it's Snapdragon 801 powered, it's most likely a Wolfson DAC in whatever class coupled with the audio hardware so the sound quality should be very nice indeed.

br0adband said:
It actually stands for Digital (to) Analog Converter, just for the record.
And since it's Snapdragon 801 powered, it's most likely a Wolfson DAC in whatever class coupled with the audio hardware so the sound quality should be very nice indeed.
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I don't know of any Qualcomm devices with Wolfson DACs - it's Qualcomm's own codec solution.

I didn't mean the Snapdragon 801 SoC has a Wolfson DAC onboard, I meant it could be part of the hardware in the One itself - Samsung (for example) is well known to use Wolfson DACs on their devices that use Qualcomm processors (my Galaxy Express is a Snapdragon powered device with a Wolfson DAC onboard), so... guess we'll find out soon enough when someone get the One and does a full workup on it.

br0adband said:
I didn't mean the Snapdragon 801 SoC has a Wolfson DAC onboard, I meant it could be part of the hardware in the One itself - Samsung (for example) is well known to use Wolfson DACs on their devices that use Qualcomm processors (my Galaxy Express is a Snapdragon powered device with a Wolfson DAC onboard), so... guess we'll find out soon enough when someone get the One and does a full workup on it.
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You should take a look here, you might find DSP/DAC. http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/04/26/photos-of-the-oneplus-one-dismantled/
Here is a translation: http://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/24g0xq/oneplus_one_phone_teardown_in_englishxpost_from/

Thanks for the help and tips guys and gals..
Hope someone documents it soon...
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dac
its probably qualcomm onboard sound, otherwise it would be stated till now. My phone has es9018 DAC for example.