Hello everyone!
So, i never had seriously played with any android phone and its apps. Only had Symbian and WM.
I understand that if I want cooked ROM that i need to root it and that opens all new customizations possible BUT can i without root install all kind of apps, games etc. Does root have any connections with witch app i can and which i cant install? Because I'm fine with stock ROM and customization but need and want to play with many apps. Help!
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Ok, i need yes or no!
Without root you can install pretty much anything (whether directly on the phone or through ADB by sideloading), but some apps require you to have root permissions for them to actually run on your phone. Hope that helps.
I just signed up with tmobile and got a Optimus t for free. My last phone was a blackjack 2 so this is a big upgrade for me. I've been reading all the android hacking threads. There was a couple things I couldn't quite figure out.
1. I'll install z4root and root the device. Do I need any other software to remove the pre installed junk from t mobile?
2. I may want to add some roms or change the kernel. What program do I use for backing up my device?
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new 2 android
welcome to android you will notice a big difference in software and customizability. but i digress . to awnser your question once rootrd you can remove all those pesky junk apps as i think of them such as kindle and blockbuster my solution was root uninstaller but first you will need superuser permissions one suggestion is to get rom mannager from the market and once installed in the rom manager app run whats called fix permissions should just be just a click away the phone will run script for about five minutes while it frees up the permissions by granting all apps super user permissions then once that has happined you can go into the root uninstaller aplication and get rid of that stock junk (note this is without running custom rom seeing as i encountered the same problem due to i recently got the cliq2 and so far cannot run custom rom as of yet to my knowllege)
For my own weirdo reasons, I currently prefer to run the stock ROM on my g-Tablet. However, I absolutely need to run some applications that are only officially available from the Android Market. There are some .apk's for one of them online, but they're not the current version and don't update correctly.
I'm willing to do some hacking, but I don't actually want to flash a new ROM and want to make the fewest changes to the stock setup.
Is this even possible?
I'm with you on this...all I'm looking for is root and market on my stock.
Yes, it's possible.
You're going to need:
- some way to get at least temp root (suggest z4root)
- the GoogleServicesFramework.apk and Vending.apk
- some way to mount /system/app as R/W (suggest root explorer)
1) install z4root
2) install root explorer
3) use z4root to get temp root
4) use root explorer to make /system/app R/W
5) use root explorer to copy the apk files to /system/app and set permissions to rw-r--r--
Do market fix.
Jim
P.s. easy way to get the apks is to download one of the enhancement packs that has the individual files and unarchive and get the files.
Thanks Jim. I will have it give it a try tomorrow when I get my gtablet.
mstevens said:
For my own weirdo reasons, I currently prefer to run the stock ROM on my g-Tablet. However, I absolutely need to run some applications that are only officially available from the Android Market. There are some .apk's for one of them online, but they're not the current version and don't update correctly.
I'm willing to do some hacking, but I don't actually want to flash a new ROM and want to make the fewest changes to the stock setup.
Is this even possible?
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I felt the same way after trying some of the other ROMs I wanted to keep the stock ROM to receive updates from VS ota but still have access to google gmail, market, etc. This file will help you do that. I had posted a post with detailed instructions on how to do it.
You will need clockworkmod 8 but don't need to root your device, perhaps the site moderators will help you find the post with the details. Angry Bird was the only issue, but once you run the market it will recognize you need the update and you can install if from the market app. Sometimes when an app I want to try needs root permissions I use z4root and perform a temporary and when I reboot it goes back to normal.
http://www.mediafire.com/?my4ohg6afnl12p3
Good luck and enjoy your G-Tab!
If you dont feel like doing much modding, the amazon android market has some decent apps to download. plus they are doing a free android app a day thing . just go to amazon.com -> android market and you can send a link to your email to download the amazon android market app
jimcpl said:
Yes, it's possible.
You're going to need:
- some way to get at least temp root (suggest z4root)
- the GoogleServicesFramework.apk and Vending.apk
- some way to mount /system/app as R/W (suggest root explorer)
1) install z4root
2) install root explorer
3) use z4root to get temp root
4) use root explorer to make /system/app R/W
5) use root explorer to copy the apk files to /system/app and set permissions to rw-r--r--
Do market fix.
Jim
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too much work. Much too much work. Can someone make a handy dandy update.zip that we could install with clockworkmod?
jimcpl said:
Yes, it's possible.
You're going to need:
- some way to get at least temp root (suggest z4root)
- the GoogleServicesFramework.apk and Vending.apk
- some way to mount /system/app as R/W (suggest root explorer)
1) install z4root
2) install root explorer
3) use z4root to get temp root
4) use root explorer to make /system/app R/W
5) use root explorer to copy the apk files to /system/app and set permissions to rw-r--r--
Do market fix.
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot tonight.
tposey said:
If you dont feel like doing much modding, the amazon android market has some decent apps to download. plus they are doing a free android app a day thing . just go to amazon.com -> android market and you can send a link to your email to download the amazon android market app
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Unfortunately, the most important apps to me are only distributed via the Android Market.
Way back in November I intalled Market, and it still works. Follow the links in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9536611&postcount=2
wasserkapf said:
Way back in November I intalled Market, and it still works. Follow the links in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9536611&postcount=2
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I did steps 1-3 of that this morning on a stock OTA 3588 gTab (from woot) and it "just worked".
Some differences, tho - mostly that I used adb and DDMS for a lot of the file manipulation because I'm familiar with the SDK tools from doing regular ol' Android app development.
Also, I only ever "temp rooted" using Z4root, so what I'm left with is an otherwise stock, non-rooted gTab with what appears to me to be a full Android Market.
I know this is short on detail, let me know if you need specifics. I'll be away this weekend, but can post when I get back.
-jim (one of them dang wooters...)
nevermind
I just got a second g-tablet, from Woot, it arrived late yesterday. They need to be completely charged before the first boot, and that took all night. I booted and updated this morning before work.
I will go through the same process that I used to enhance my first g-tablet. Some of the things no-longer need to be done, like the OpenGL fix and the Flash installation. The other things that I may try are the enhancement pack and a different kernel.
I purchased a second g-tablet specifically to mod it. I really want to install Linux on it, but I don't believe a Linux install is fully functional (yet). So I may dabble in a few of the customized firmwares. I saved the update file before installing it, so I can always flash back to stock.
I will update the original thread on customizing a stock g-tablet, if needed.
I ran into trouble downloading some of the needed apps to do the market install. I am uploading them in the hope that you can then download them from the g-tablet.
z4root:
z4root
AndRootFile:
AndRootFile.3.0.beta
I didn't use AndRootFile because I already have the Root Explorer app that I purchased when I owned a different tablet. Let me know if there are problems with this app.
Edit: It appears that the stock browser will not allow direct download of these apps. You will then have to download the apps on another PC and transfer them to the g-tablet. A micsoSD card or a USB pen drive will work.
Market fix with Stock rom
If you do a market fix with the stock rom do gmail and calendar work properly
Thanks for this thread. It was very helpful. I was able to temp root my tablet and apply the market fix to my otherwise stock gTab. Everything seems to be working fine. I haven't yet applied the patch for the Tegra 2 apps. Still waiting to see if it makes that much of a difference.
I was very pleased with my ability to figure this all out as this is my first android device, so working with the tools is all very new to me.
On another note... is there a plugin, or browser that will allow websites that use java to work properly? There are several educational websites that I use with my students that I would like to be able to run on my tablet.
miggyg said:
If you do a market fix with the stock rom do gmail and calendar work properly
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Gmail is part of the Market install, and works fine. I don't think that Calendar is included, though.
LisaBham said:
On another note... is there a plugin, or browser that will allow websites that use java to work properly? There are several educational websites that I use with my students that I would like to be able to run on my tablet.
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Maybe you just need to change the browser settings. Open the browser, then select the two gears icon in the upper right corner. Make sure that the "Enable JavaScript option is checked. also, change the "Page Display Settings" from Tablet to Desktop.
You may then need to restart the browser, or even reboot. If that doesn't help, try a different browser, like Dolphin. In Dolphin you also need to change it to Desktop. It is called the user-agent in Dolphin.
Guys,
Does anyone know of a software package for windows or even an app for the android that will basically lock down the phone so no apps can be installed unless there is a password entered (by I.T. Administrator etc)? We are trying to rollout android phones but would like to limit app installation.
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Yeah sure remove the VENDING.apk in the system/app folder, root permission is needed for this though, I use a program called root explorer, and this will remove the android market from the phone/tablet.
But there would still be other ways to install apps, that would be just removing the most obvious
I just purchased RAM Manager Pro but noticed that when I opened the app for the first time I got a popup that said I am missing busybox. Is this an app that is required in order to make RAM Manager Pro work properly? why is it required and if it isn't required why is it asking me to install?
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BusyBox is a collection of powerful command-line tools in a single binary executable that can be run for UNIX based systems, including Android. So in short busybox hmmm.... Allows more Linux commands!
Some apps require busybox to be installed. To install busybox just root your phone then go to the Play Store and install busybox installer and let it install.
If your phone isn't rooted and you don't want to root your phone then ask the developer for a money refund.
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