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I know this has been covered in many other threads but they seem to be fragmented into some suggestions for specific problems. Researching, following and applying the information, tips and software some have suggested I am still getting nowhere. My battery dies in a very short period of time - something like 4-6 hours.
I have installated, executed / implemented many of the suggestions and procedures here and on fuze-mobility to extend battery life. These are representative. I think there have been probably more but I cannot remember them.
HTC Power Management
SD Card Battery Saver
Taskmgr - to kill / stop Activiesync (replog.exec) from continuously cycling
Advanced Configuration Tool to turn on and off 3G
Registry Edit modifications on both the Fuze and associated laptop related to Activesync Update cycles
Activesync - added new server, made timing manual, deleted server.
Charging processes - Letting battery run all the way down to below 10%
Lowering brightness on my screen
I have ordered and am waiting for an extended battery for the Fuze.
The only thing I see is when viewing what is executing via the Taskmgr CPU Usage panel, I see that most of the time the Idle process is executing. (75+%). Although I have read some threads where folks have said this is good because nothing else is draining your power, just because the process says "idle" does not seem to me to be doing nothing..it is still cranking through and using cycles to go through its designated activities.
Is there a way to indicate the interval when the idle process cycles?
Anyone have this same situation? Any suggestions?
That sounds very bad. Most complaints are about it being less than a day, noy 4-6 hours.
Have you contacted HTC/your supplier to get a replacement battery?
Also, idle is not a process, it's the absence of a process...
I'm not an expert on the ARM architecture, but idle processes are processes that use the CPU when all other processes are waiting for something or when there are no other processes running. They don't necessarily do anything constructive (they essentially just 'mind' the CPU until another process needs it), but they often feed the CPU with power-saving instructions. In conclusion, ignore it - it's not causing any problems and there's no point in fiddling with it.
That sort of a battery life is absolutely ridiculous, and you've clearly had a good go at increasing it, so I my best guess would be that it's defective.
Thanks for the quick responses.
I would still like to investigate the "idle" process angle. As long as something accesses the CPU, cycles are being executed and power is being used. Depending on what the "idle" process is doing with the 75+% "time" it has control of the CPU lots of power could be being used / drained.
Not sure how to go about this yet but I'm sure there is a way to find out what is going on during the "idle" process time holding the CPU.
If anyone know please share.....
Wow, it seems like the battey life on these things just keeps getting worse and worse. I remember going from the Hermes to the Kaiser and thinking how much worse the battery life was on the Kaiser.
The features keep increasing and batteries are having a hard time keeping up, I think.
there is alot to blame here. the good news there is a fix for almost every culprit.
1st....touch flow 3d. this thing demands alot of battery life. Not too mention its always running. Att has also seem to have added a few things to the touch flo interface that may have had an impact on this as well.
2nd....the applications these days seem to be getting bigger and bigger every few months. its not uncommon to see an app eating up 7 to 10 mb of ram. jivetalk...opera...the new aim??? the thing about this....the more ram an app takes up, the more batt power is consumes.
by the way...this is not a problem native to windows mobile...take a look at Google's g1....the batt life on that phone is even worse than your stock fuze...and after i've been digging through the phone....i found out all the apps are over 5 mb....madness! Also, the iphone has had this problem....and still does. but the iphone doesn't allow for background processing....so large programs running in the background aren't really that much of an issue.
3rd...att! in a noble attempt to cram the fuze with everything under the hood and give it the title it truly deserve (a phone capable of doing everything) they've weighed the os down with crap ware.
4th...the att radio that ships with the phone....its horrid. you'd never belive how much better some of the other radios are vs. the shipped att radio. its almost ridiculous that att would ship the phone with such a poor radio.
5th....htc. The batt in the phone is no bigger than the one offered in the tilt. But lets keep in mind, the same size batt now has to power faster processor....more ram...and a brighter more high res screen. Why they didnt up the power of the batt? who the hell knows...i guess to keep the phone nice a small...but its def a trade off.
I want you to try a cooked rom....try romeos 1.4 or the new proven.....change your radio to the shipped orange....make sure you spl before doing both.
and post back. im sure you'll have a different experience.
wrjp said:
Thanks for the quick responses.
I would still like to investigate the "idle" process angle. As long as something accesses the CPU, cycles are being executed and power is being used. Depending on what the "idle" process is doing with the 75+% "time" it has control of the CPU lots of power could be being used / drained.
Not sure how to go about this yet but I'm sure there is a way to find out what is going on during the "idle" process time holding the CPU.
If anyone know please share.....
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I'm going to save you a ton of wasted hours in your life....or at least give you something else to waste those hours on. Stop the witch hunt on the "Idle" process. Open up the task manager on your desktop/laptop and look for the Idle process on there. If you pay attention (and do a little guessing), you'll see that the idle process consumes the remaining percentage of the CPU after the other applications have had their cut, however if you look at the total usage, you'll see that it doesn't include the Idle process.
There's a reason for this. It's lying to you....
There is no "Idle" process, it's just a way for the operating system to indicate how much processing power is not being used by applications. There's certainly something going on during those empty cycles, but it's operations that the core of the operating system is doing. Another poster mentioned that one of the things it's doing is sending power-saving instructions, which is basically true (but it's more in the form of telling the processor that there's nothing to do and letting it decide to save power).
The idle process cannot go away, and the closer you get it to 100% the better (relatively speaking, as it means you're doing nothing with the phone and removed any cool features it had). As long as the phone is on there's going to be at least a trickle of power going through the processor so the core of the operating system (i.e. Kernel) can perform it's necessary actions...just like the brain or heart does in your own body, even at rest they are still working a little bit.
Truthfully, I think you're barking up the wrong tree with your battery issues. I've got a Fuze also, and the ONLY time that I saw the battery die in 6 hours was when I was talking on it for about 3 1/2 or 4 hours in one afternoon. Otherwise, that thing, even on the stock rom, has given me nothing like the trouble your describing. I've flashed NATF's rom onto it (didn't like ROMeOS that much, just felt a little too laggy for me) and the new Austrailian radio .20M1 and the battery life seems even better. I don't think you're doing something wrong, I think you've got a lemon phone. Return it to the store complaining about the battery life on it not matching that of any of the other Fuze's you've seen anybody else using, then get a new one and try that out.
4-6 hours? Consider yourself lucky. I can get that if I don't touch the phone and no one calls. If I use the phone as a normal person might, I can get 2 hours. I don't even consider it a mobile phone. It's stays plugged into something all day.
momojopoe said:
4-6 hours? Consider yourself lucky. I can get that if I don't touch the phone and no one calls. If I use the phone as a normal person might, I can get 2 hours. I don't even consider it a mobile phone. It's stays plugged into something all day.
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You have a faulty battery or you don't know how to set up the phone. I'm also using HTC Raphael, and battery lasts 1,5 days with lots of usage. I think that you should search xda for battery tips&tricks, like lowering backlight, turning off WIFI, BT and other. Also, there might be a problem with the ROM and Radio you're using.
The battery was exchanged...twice...the poor battery life was present with nothing but stock apps and all the tips and tricks you suggest were tried, and then some...the problem is endemic with the fuze...I figure as much as I paid I shouldn't have to jump through all the hoops with 3rd party new roms etc. just to get my phone to work like it should...the battery is piece of crap
Hmmm, in that case it could be faulty device - there are plenty of people on Raphael subforum that are using Fuze and battery lasts for most of them 1-2 days.
Whos got Extended battery on there Att Fuze ?
Is it worth the bulk
& which one to get ?
18,00 / 2,000 diff kinds i see
with diff company
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
SmiLey497 said:
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
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But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
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To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
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Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
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FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
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GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.
Hello,
I'm a first time poster looking for a little help. I've had my Verizon SIII for about a week now and almost everything about the phone I have loved with the exception of the battery life. Given the 2100mah battery I was expecting much more. I tend to be a fairly light user throughout the day at work, I have the screen brightness turned down, all data is off, and I really only am using it for texting, maybe a little bit of gaming. I have found that if I unplug at about 8am by about 6 or 7pm the battery will be nearly completely drained.
Noticing that this seemed to be a fairly common problem I started doing some research to determine the source of this. First, by looking at the battery stats I observed the same problem that many others observe, a heavy drain in standby mode.
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png (since I'm a first time poster I can't add external links, please just add an H to the beginning of the url)
So going off of this I started trying to determine the cause of this drain in standby mode. I should also mention that at times the phone does seem to get warm in the bottom left region of the back of the phone. I had read one tutorial explaining about wakelocks so I decided to check that out. I downloaded GSam Battery and CPU Spy to see if something was preventing my phone from entering standby mode properly. However my phone was entering deep sleep as shown below, so this confused me a bit. But clearly there is some issue visible in the standby mode of my phone, sometimes the battery will drain ridiculously fast (as high as 1% every 5 - 10 minutes). And keep in mind that this is while virtually everything, data included, is disabled. So that eliminates the possibility of it simply having to search for a signal in a weak area.
ttp://i.imgur.com/pekXb.png
ttp://i.imgur.com/xauHF.png
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png
Basically I'm having a tough time getting to the root cause of this problem. I feel like there's some little software issue in there that is draining it. But I've been pretty smart about the apps that I've downloaded, I've stuck with only very common and popular ones. So would anybody have any clue to how I could identify and address the source of my battery drain?
Thanks
mmisley3 said:
Hello,
I'm a first time poster looking for a little help. I've had my Verizon SIII for about a week now and almost everything about the phone I have loved with the exception of the battery life. Given the 2100mah battery I was expecting much more. I tend to be a fairly light user throughout the day at work, I have the screen brightness turned down, all data is off, and I really only am using it for texting, maybe a little bit of gaming. I have found that if I unplug at about 8am by about 6 or 7pm the battery will be nearly completely drained.
Noticing that this seemed to be a fairly common problem I started doing some research to determine the source of this. First, by looking at the battery stats I observed the same problem that many others observe, a heavy drain in standby mode.
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png (since I'm a first time poster I can't add external links, please just add an H to the beginning of the url)
So going off of this I started trying to determine the cause of this drain in standby mode. I should also mention that at times the phone does seem to get warm in the bottom left region of the back of the phone. I had read one tutorial explaining about wakelocks so I decided to check that out. I downloaded GSam Battery and CPU Spy to see if something was preventing my phone from entering standby mode properly. However my phone was entering deep sleep as shown below, so this confused me a bit. But clearly there is some issue visible in the standby mode of my phone, sometimes the battery will drain ridiculously fast (as high as 1% every 5 - 10 minutes). And keep in mind that this is while virtually everything, data included, is disabled. So that eliminates the possibility of it simply having to search for a signal in a weak area.
ttp://i.imgur.com/pekXb.png
ttp://i.imgur.com/xauHF.png
ttp://i.imgur.com/2drJy.png
Basically I'm having a tough time getting to the root cause of this problem. I feel like there's some little software issue in there that is draining it. But I've been pretty smart about the apps that I've downloaded, I've stuck with only very common and popular ones. So would anybody have any clue to how I could identify and address the source of my battery drain?
Thanks
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This may be worth a try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732722
or this http://androidapplikation.info/2012/07/cpu-sleeper-2-4-apk-for-android-free-download/
Hope it helps
You don't have to thank me there is a button for that
Download and try Watchdog Lite. It's a really good monitor for finding out which apps are acting up.
This doesn't exactly answer your question, but can help with your problem. There are programs that can help to drastically improve battery life by turning off data (3g\4g) while the screen is off. This can double your battery life or more, especially for lite/moderate users. Most of these programs work by turning on the data 1 minute out of every 15 the screen is off. That way you still get email, and notifications. You still get txt and phone real time, as they do not rely on data. When you turn the screen on data is turned on, when you actually would want to use it. Especially in 4g areas this really saves battery, as 4g is a battery hog.
Battery Defender is my favorite. I feel like I should be paid for this advertisement...
Do you have BATTERY SAVER option ENABLED in settings? That makes a huge difference for me.
It sounds like you are still stock, but I used the Root66 image and after that started having huge battery drain. I did a factory reset to no avail, so then moved to Synergy Rom. Since then, I've had outstanding battery life! not sure if you were thinking about going this route, but it has worked for me. Synergy is debloated so I assumed Verizon crap to be the culprit.
The images I saw were all at 100% battery. Those are not very helpful. A shot of your battery stats at the end of the day would be a lot more useful.
Please note that Cell Standby reports incorrectly at the moment on the S3. Unless you do the fix linked above, it will nearly always be at the top, but it does not actually drain that much battery, it is simply a reporting issue.
Hi everyone.
Recently, in the past 2-3 months, I've had MAJOR problems with my battery, i.e.. unreasonable battery drain.
I used to get very decent battery life with my HTC One X, especially when using Sense ICS ROMs.
Since early this year, however, I've experiences severe battery problems.
The most troubling thing however, is the battery drain with Airplane Mode ON. It used to be (and with every other phone I've owned), if Airplane Mode was ON, battery drain was VERY low, even when playing music or something. And in deep sleep, there should be very very little battery drain.
However now, even when turning Airplane Mode ON, the battery still drains considerably – like 0.75 - 1 % an hour. And this is with the phone in deep sleep (I checked).
And with Airplane Mode OFF, the battery drain is really bad. I get great LTE/HSPA+ coverage in my house, usually a full 3/4 bars. But if I go to sleep with the phone at 80% battery, in 8 hours it will have dropped to at least 65% (Sense ROM with no apps installed).
PICTURES!
I ATTACHED SOME PICTURES
The first 3 pictures are old, with reasonable battery drain. These are with lots of apps installed.
The last 4 pictures are new, with bad battery drain. These are with NO apps installed.
As you can see, in the old pictures, with Airplane Mode ON, there is VERY little battery drain, both on Sense and AOSP ROMs. And even with Airplane Mode OFF, battery drain is much less on older pictures.
Compare for yourself.
And let me say that this problem is apparent in ALL ROMs, ALL configurations, ALL setups, ALL RUUs, ALL radios, etc... You get the point.
Actually, the majority of the 'testing' that I've done has been with fresh, clean ROM installs. Either AOSP ROMs with only Gapps installed, or Sense ROMs with NO third-party apps installed, and only Google Account signed-in.
Some configurations I've tried:
1.73 RUU, stock, no apps installed
2.20 RUU, stock, no apps installed
3.18 RUU, stock, no apps installed
Custom Sense JB ROMs, stock, no apps installed
ALL AOSP-based ROMs, stock, no apps installed
ETC...
Currently, I have no idea how to solve this problem, and am very sure that it did not exist in the past (started a few months ago). I've done nearly everything I can, even tried changing the outlet I use to charge my phone. And yes, I use the default, included white HTC charger.
My only option I see is to pack the phone up and return it to HTC under warranty and have them replace the battery. There is no water damage BTW (I checked the strip inside the SIM tray). And virtually now physical damage to the device.
This HOX is my 3rd replacement, the original was bought on May 6.
Does the warranty end 1 year after the original device purchase, or the purchase of the final device? ( I got the third one some time in June ).
But just to be safe, I need to ship it back to the before next Monday.
And lastly, I have:
S-OFF, bootloader unlock, SuperCID
In order to return the phone, I have RUU'd to 3.18 (so it looks authentic), and I will probably relock the bootloader, but leave it S-OFF.
I know you can modify the text in the bootloader to make it appear FULLY unmodified, so I might do that also.
SOOOOOO....
Any advice, precautions, etc? Especially for sending it to HTC?
Insurance, how to deal with HTC, how to convince them to replace my battery?
Any advice as to what might be butchering my battery? Seems that since I've tried virtually every software option, the hardware is the problem...
HOWEVER, could S-OFF be the problem? I S-OFF'd the device around the same time that I started having battery troubles, so could that SOMEHOW be the culprit? I don't know...
Is my battery actually looks bad, or is my perception just really screwed up?
Help? Please?
Your battery drain doesn't sound that bad to me. Batteries wear out over time and don't hold the same charge they used to. 1% per hour hardly seems like anything to complain about.
I doubt you're going to get a warranty repair for something like this.
iElvis said:
Your battery drain doesn't sound that bad to me. Batteries wear out over time and don't hold the same charge they used to. 1% per hour hardly seems like anything to complain about.
I doubt you're going to get a warranty repair for something like this.
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I'm getting around 2-3% battery drain per hour, if I just let the phone sit there. And in Airplane Mode, it's just as bad.
Trust me, I've noticed a definite decrease in battery life compared to just a few months ago.
I'll also have some overheating problems with light usage on Sense JB ROMs (including the 3.18 RUU stock), so I think that might be contributing somewhat.
But I've been meaning to make a post about this for weeks, and in the meantime trying to ignore this problem and fix it. But it just isn't happening.
What kind of battery drain do you get with Airplane Mode ON?
Compare the drain in the old (1st picture) vs new (5th picture) when Airplane Mode is ON.
That drain doesn't sound bad to me at all, that sounds completely normal.
Really?
Well, on AOSP 4.2.2 ROMs, with Airplane Mode ON, AutoSync OFF, and no apps installed, and no wakelock, I get around 3% battery drain per hour. Probably due to bad power management in the ROMs themselves.
On Sense ROMs (and this is much worse on JB than ICS) , with Airplane Mode ON, AutoSync OFF, no apps installed, and no wakelock, I get around 1% battery drain per hour.
And all of the screenshots are with no apps installed/no syncing. With apps installed and syncing, the battery life is much worse obviously.
I don't know, I've just REALLY felt like there's been a definite decrease in battery life over the past few months.
I know for sure it used to be a lot better.
I understand that batteries wear out over time, but should it be happening this early to me?
I have an original, launch day HOX, that can handle the lowest underclocking (the processor is in 'FAST' mode), although I have experienced lots of overheating in the past during just very light usage.
Could you guys share the kind of battery drain you get with Airplane Mode ON? Over the course of an hour or few?
I never use airplane mode so I can't shed any light on that. You did say that you've experienced overheating, and overheating causes battery life to decrease both in the short term and the long term. It's the arch nemesis of the battery you might say.
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Hydromea said:
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Could you guys share the kind of battery drain you get with Airplane Mode ON? Over the course of an hour or few?
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Well I did not use airplane mode. However, I turned off WiFi mobile data. Also lowered my brightness to then lowest setting. I have plenty of apps and probably some wake locks. I did this at 11pm and 60%. I have an alarm set for 730am. When I woke up it was at 54%. So you could possibly have a bad battery. My phone is a refurbished one so I don't known when it was manufactured
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I never use airplane mode unless I'm actually on an airplane, but I generally get around 2-4% drain per hour with normal use.
Just out of curiosity have you tried Greenifying Maps, Gmail, Facebook, etc, anything that syncs? Just this has brought my battery from 8hour to 15 hour usage. Has your carrier recently added LTE? LTE is a huge battery drainer.
Secondly, while I'm not discouraging sending your phone in. I doubt they'll do anything. Batteries deteriorate over time. It's a well known fact and companies will rarely replace them unless it's DRASTIC, 2 hour battery life for example or phone no longer turns on.
exad said:
Just out of curiosity have you tried Greenifying Maps, Gmail, Facebook, etc, anything that syncs? Just this has brought my battery from 8hour to 15 hour usage. Has your carrier recently added LTE? LTE is a huge battery drainer.
Secondly, while I'm not discouraging sending your phone in. I doubt they'll do anything. Batteries deteriorate over time. It's a well known fact and companies will rarely replace them unless it's DRASTIC, 2 hour battery life for example or phone no longer turns on.
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Yes, I have tried Greenifying apps, but the battery problem persists even when no syncing apps are installed/autosync is off.
And LTE shouldn't cause problems with battery drain during Airplane Mode. But regardless I have always had good LTE service in my area, so I don't think that's the problem.
If I DO send my phone in, could they just refuse to replace the battery and send it back? Or will they tell me they won't replace it before I send the phone in? What is the process for sending a phone to HTC?
Call them. They're good about explaining what will happen. They'll usually tell you then and there if it's covered. If they won't cover it, they will usually contact you and let you choose if you want them to fix it for a cost or send it back.
Keep us posted as to what happens.
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Ok, so I called HTC today.
The guy on the phone was pretty helpful and nice. I simply explained that I've been experiencing much higher battery drainage than before, how the battery would drain a lot even on airplane mode, overheating problems, etc. Also mentioned that I had tried factory resetting/running without any apps and nothing had helped. I said that I had read that since the battery is not user-replacable, HTC would replace the battery for free. The guy also asked me how long my battery lasted. I gave him some stats like, "With data on and no syncing, around 2-3% per hour" or "With airplane mode on and in standby mode, around 1% per hour" but he kept asking me, "How long does your battery last?" He told me to just tell him a certain number of hours, so I said "10-12 hours with 40 min screen time". That finally stopped him asking. He read me their policy, and asked my information about my address and email, etc. And then it was done.
Also, he used my IMEI to check my warranty status, and apparently the fact that I bootloader unlocked my device raised no concern or mention. :good:
Pretty simple, just keep your cool and keep it simple.
Basically, just tell them the battery life has been really bad, and that you want it repaired. Tell them about how long the battery will last (in hours) and give an approximate screen-on time. Don't worry about fancy stats or figures.
Of course, now I have to actually send the phone back, which is supposed to take around 10 days to repair and return.
Any advice on how to cover up my tracks of S-OFF, unlock, supercid, etc?
I don't want to raise any suspicion, but I also want to be able to re-unlock my device if they ever RUU it. I'm already running the 3.18 RUU by the way.
Hydromea said:
Ok, so I called HTC today.
The guy on the phone was pretty helpful and nice. I simply explained that I've been experiencing much higher battery drainage than before, how the battery would drain a lot even on airplane mode, overheating problems, etc. Also mentioned that I had tried factory resetting/running without any apps and nothing had helped. I said that I had read that since the battery is not user-replacable, HTC would replace the battery for free. The guy also asked me how long my battery lasted. I gave him some stats like, "With data on and no syncing, around 2-3% per hour" or "With airplane mode on and in standby mode, around 1% per hour" but he kept asking me, "How long does your battery last?" He told me to just tell him a certain number of hours, so I said "10-12 hours with 40 min screen time". That finally stopped him asking. He read me their policy, and asked my information about my address and email, etc. And then it was done.
Also, he used my IMEI to check my warranty status, and apparently the fact that I bootloader unlocked my device raised no concern or mention. :good:
Pretty simple, just keep your cool and keep it simple.
Basically, just tell them the battery life has been really bad, and that you want it repaired. Tell them about how long the battery will last (in hours) and give an approximate screen-on time. Don't worry about fancy stats or figures.
Of course, now I have to actually send the phone back, which is supposed to take around 10 days to repair and return.
Any advice on how to cover up my tracks of S-OFF, unlock, supercid, etc?
I don't want to raise any suspicion, but I also want to be able to re-unlock my device if they ever RUU it. I'm already running the 3.18 RUU by the way.
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I would just leave it at the 3.18 RUU with S-OFF if it was me. You could technically flash a modified HBOOT, but if they really cared that much, I'm sure they could tell your bootloader is unlocked regardless since your IMEI is surely captured when you unlock via HTCDEV.
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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KungFuCracka94 said:
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
Do you allow full charges after these "forced shutdowns" occur? This should cause your battery to recalibrate.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
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The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Madcat8686 said:
The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
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Ive done all three methods youve mentioned before and still same thing. Also im on 3/4 bars with lte 90% of the time so no reception issues here. And with my current setup ive been running it for about 2 weeks.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Ive always let the rom settle in and i constantly maintain the brightness on around mid level (mirror screen protector so i cant go too low) but its not just one rom or a few, its with every rom i flash ad that consists of most roms available for this device
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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timmaaa said:
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all. Also i cant get it to charge too 100% for anything. So if theres no fix to this, anybody want a one x with a troublesome battery?
What I'm saying is the battery percentage displayed by the software is never exact, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level of your battery. Your battery sounds like its long term life (capacity) has been decreased over time and possibly bad treatment (allowing the device to discharge too much too many times).
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NexusS4gFreak said:
So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all.
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Depends on what you define as "normal". Such behavior is certainly not unheard of (although you particular collection of symptoms may point to a more serious issue, which I'll get to later). Couple things you have to remember: the battery meter is far from accurate. Being off by 10% or more is not unusual (completely normal). So jumping from 5 to 13% as you mentioned is not out of the question. The battery voltage is not actually jumping around, just the % battery number that the phone is assigning to various voltage readings. Reading errors happen, and if a jump is noticed, its just the meter correcting itself.
Which brings us to the other point that should be kept in mind: the battery % is not a "real" measurement. Its just a number assigned to various voltages to give the average person a sense of how much battery is left. Its a completely fabricated and artificial measure that just gives some relative sense of when a user should charge their battery. Phone makers just decided to use a system that average people would understand, like the fuel gauge on a car. Zero doesn't really mean zero (or anywhere close), but reporting in voltages would make no sense for most folks. Also, as we all well know, just because (for example) it took you 12 hours to drain the phone to 50%, does not necessarily mean the phone will last another 12 hours to drain the remaining 50%. It all depends on what you are doing with the phone during that time. Which leaves the question: What does the % battery really mean? Really, not a heck of a lot.
On the other hand, the battery failing to charge to 100% is troublesome, as is the apparent frequency of the meter drops and the fact that the issue remains after various ROM flashes. Leads me to believe there may be some hardware issue going on.
The short answer: IMO while some of the individual symptoms are not unusual, the seeming frequency (you haven't exactly quantified this, but it seems relative frequent just based on your descriptions) may suggest a larger issue, but its not certain.
Thanks it explained a lot but it happened again today, went to the store with ~36% on the meter and walked out, haven't touched it at all, phone was completely dead. Tried to charge and it went to 6% and stopped charging, all signs showed it was charging but it was stuck on 6. Then it started climbing again and reached about 16% and actually started losing charge while on the charger. Switched over to my portable battery charger i just got and it held the charge at about 5% for ~30 minutes, which is what it was when i plugged it in and started to charge, then it stopped againand during the whole process the phone was getting very hot. Yea im getting a new phone :/