heyy there guys
,,i have a powerbank with 5200mAh and the output of the powerbank only 1.2A..the output original charger galaxy s4 is 2.0A
is it safe if i charge with my powerbank?because it has different output. i already used the powerbank to charge my s4 and it takes really long time. it takes about 3 - 4 hours for full charged.. the question that i want to ask is, is it okay to use powerbank with output only 1.2A to charge my sgs4? if it will make my battery life reduce, i will stop to use it and buy another powerbank with output 2.1A
please help me
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heyy there guys
,,i have a powerbank with 5200mAh and the output of the powerbank only 1.2A..the output original charger galaxy s4 is 2.0A
is it safe if i charge with my powerbank?because it has different output. i already used the powerbank to charge my s4 and it takes really long time. it takes about 3 - 4 hours for full charged.. the question that i want to ask is, is it okay to use powerbank with output only 1.2A to charge my sgs4? if it will make my battery life reduce, i will stop to use it and buy another powerbank with output 2.1A
please help me
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It's all fine to use. The phone will only take what is needed. Granted, it will take longer to charge using the 1.2A compared to the 2.1A.
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It's all fine to use. The phone will only take what is needed. Granted, it will take longer to charge using the 1.2A compared to the 2.1A.
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ahhh i see..so it's okay to use it?yeahh it's really take longer when i charge with 1.2A.. i'm afraid that my battery life will reduce because i use different output to charging.. thankyou for your help man
I use a seperately bought genuine samsung charger that comes with s3 to charge my s4 sometimes! No probs at all.
I use it for my S2 as well!
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sohail99 said:
I use a seperately bought genuine samsung charger that comes with s3 to charge my s4 sometimes! No probs at all.
I use it for my S2 as well!
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i see..i want to ask, if you must choose, what do you choose to use?powerbank or battery kit?i just confused what i want to used lol
it is ok, but why not to choose a N x USB portable charger power bank.
Fluzz17 said:
heyy there guys
,,i have a powerbank with 5200mAh and the output of the powerbank only 1.2A..the output original charger galaxy s4 is 2.0A
is it safe if i charge with my powerbank?because it has different output. i already used the powerbank to charge my s4 and it takes really long time. it takes about 3 - 4 hours for full charged.. the question that i want to ask is, is it okay to use powerbank with output only 1.2A to charge my sgs4? if it will make my battery life reduce, i will stop to use it and buy another powerbank with output 2.1A
please help me
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Might be your cable. Have you tested it with the OEM cable you got? Or compared the data reading from the oem charger.
I think the OEM charger + cable will give you 1400-1900 mah.
Which program are you running to read the current?
It will be fine to charge your device with lesser output than your charger do. Just do a little math here, your 2600 mah battery will charged to full capacity (from fully discharged) in about an hour charging time with a 2.6 A charger. So with original charger that has charging capacity of 2.0 A it will be fully charge in about 1 hour 18 min. Then if you charge it with your 1200 mAh power bank, it will fully charge in about 2 hour 10 min. Well i assuming here all power efficiency is at 100%. Hope this will help.
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Hello,
my battery charger stopped working and i need a new one. I read a few review and i'm a bit confuesd, not every chargers with the capability to deliver 1000mAh works with every device. So which one oft them works with the desire s and delivers 1000mAh and not just 500mAh?
just buy a oem wall charger ,, easily found on ebay and also cheap
does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
vartotojas123 said:
does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
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I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
MatthewJoe said:
I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
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same here
Overheating
im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
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im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
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no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
Talha7866 said:
no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
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Double that. Overheating can be only caused by the phone itself, or a defected battery (means it is near death, but for serius heating, you will notice like 1hrs of battery life for the phone).
On another note for the topic. I use 3 type of chargers for my phones:
At home my ASUS tab's one (which is rated 5V 1A at the standard USB, plus the extra for the dock, but it is ASUS specific), at work an old ZTE "dumbphone" charger (which is rated 5V 0.75A, and is a high frequency switching type, so really energy-efficient) and for any other my old SE X8's one, which is 5V 650mA (which is also switching type). Also dedicated charger cables, 1 nokia, 1 SE, 1 HTC and 1 ZTE at my car.
The phone's original 5V 1A is NRFB at the box of the phone, but I have a security backup Samsung charger (rated 5V 500mA and pass-trough type, so not really efficient, but stable) which works just fine. The S is not capable (or not enabled just yet) of fast charge mode AFAIK so no really chance for 500mA or more when charging (even when GPS and 3G on, and screen on max, which is aroung 430mA when I last measued it with a service cable).
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yeah i can confirm it was the 2 year old htc battery
i am now using 2 anker 1600mah batterys and they last a LOT longer + come with an enternal charger so i always have one charged, it also charges the old htc battery too externally so i can now use 3 battieries mwahahahaa
note i did have to delete battery stats in cwm to recalibrate
Hello
What do I need to get Fast Charge?
a charger.
bloodrain954 said:
a charger.
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Lol!!!!
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Hello
What do I need to get Fast Charge?
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fast charge is generally a feature that needs to be built into a custom kernel
Don't know about you but my S5 chargers incredibly fast compared to my SIII and Nexus 7. Even with fast charge on.
Agree, my S5 charges at 1.2A given a charger capable of this, and that is fast.
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Agree, my S5 charges at 1.2A given a charger capable of this, and that is fast.
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correction S5 chargers are shipped with a 2.0A chargers and it charges at that rate.
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correction S5 chargers are shipped with a 2.0A chargers and it charges at that rate.
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Yes, the S5 charges at 2amp. (Kernel reports 1800mah)
If your phone is reporting that it charges any slower than that, it's an energy deficiency of the charger supply, bad cable, or bad micro usb connection.
I use an app which reports charging current. With a standard micro usb cable i never morw than 1200 mA (and about 450 mA from a PC/mac usb plug)
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While it's true that the phone ships with a 2A charger, the charging current does not exceed 1.2A AFAIK.
Gotta love MicroUSB 3.0.
It already charges from under 10% to 100% in a mere 2 something hours (bundled charger and USB 3 cable). You want something much faster than that???
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While it's true that the phone ships with a 2A charger, the charging current does not exceed 1.2A AFAIK.
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Yes I think in the end it is something around this current. What the apps report is more "charging in 1800mA mode" and not really charging with continous/real 1800mA. If you like to know more exactly what the current is you may write down time/percentage values for e.g. every 5% of battery power starting with an nearly empty battery. Then you can draw an line of the effective loading current.
With the original charger you should be able to get stable 1800mA but if the loading circuit of the S5 really goes this high I did not check.
I believe it peaks at 1800mah with the screen off. It is 1200 mah limited when screen is on.
Sorry to awaken this post.
As most of you, my S5 reported charging at stable 1200 mA with wall charger, probably 1800mA when turned off.
But, I can say a custom rom unleash battery charging in the same conditions as stock rom. I get stable 1800 mA with LineageOS, even screen on, with original charger and usb 2 or usb 3 cable.
Looks like the Note 4 comes with a 2A charger. I imagine this is all we would need in a car charger to support the quick charging?
Nope. The charger has some type of 9 volt mode to facilitate the quick charge, apparently.
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You'd need a special Samsung charger. The one that comes with the Note 4 has dual modes. It will charge at 9V 1.67A up to 50%~ and then switch over to the regular 5V 2A.
Here are the Quick Charge 2.0 compatible devices & accessories: https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived
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Here are the Quick Charge 2.0 compatible devices & accessories:
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So, has anyone tried the ones not listed by Samsung or Qualcomm? Amazon has both Anker and Verizon for about $10 or $12 that are 2 or 2.1 amp. I know they probably don't do what the officially compatible ones do but they'd be better than the old Sprint thing I have been using for 5 years, right? It's probably 1 amp or less. I need a new charger but not necessarily fully-compatible until they get cheap like this stuff I am seeing.
If you want the fast charging in your car you need to buy one that is Quick Charge 2.0 capable.
I tried 10W car charger from Samsung and it charged from about 60 % 1% every minute up to 75 % while testing it. But it isn´t really fast charging technology or?
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You'd need a special Samsung charger. The one that comes with the Note 4 has dual modes. It will charge at 9V 1.67A up to 50%~ and then switch over to the regular 5V 2A.
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Where did you get this information re 50%?
When mine passes 50% it continues to quick charge according to the battery stats I have obtained on my device.
I imported a number of the Incipio car chargers to the UK. They are excellent but not cheap!
I have 4 chargers on hand listed below...
1. Original Samsung Adaptive USB Charger
2. Anker PowerCore+ 10050+ QC 2.0 Charger
3. Anker PowerCore 10000
4. Pleson Fast Wireless Charger
Now my question is why is my S8+ charging similarly with all these chargers? Example @ 30%.... The Adaptive charger says 1 hr 9 min (reads fast charge), the Anker 10050+ says 1 hr 25 min (doesn't read fast charge), The Anker PowerCore 10000 says 1 hr 25 min (Not a fast charger), and the Pleson Fast Wireless Charger says 1 hr 44 min. I am confused.
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. I am confused.
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yes you are.
all values seem to be plausible! what bothers you?
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dja2k said:
I have 4 chargers on hand listed below...
1. Original Samsung Adaptive USB Charger
2. Anker PowerCore+ 10050+ QC 2.0 Charger
3. Anker PowerCore 10000
4. Pleson Fast Wireless Charger
Now my question is why is my S8+ charging similarly with all these chargers? Example @ 30%.... The Adaptive charger says 1 hr 9 min (reads fast charge), the Anker 10050+ says 1 hr 25 min (doesn't read fast charge), The Anker PowerCore 10000 says 1 hr 25 min (Not a fast charger), and the Pleson Fast Wireless Charger says 1 hr 44 min. I am confused.
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Because only 1st one is actually fast charging your phone.
You should try 2 and 4 with original cable. If you have qualcomm version of s8 shold work
I'd echo the original cable and the wall plug that came with the device. Retry all 4 of these with the original cable and the wall plug.
Well I don't know if the Anker products are charging oddly because one is QC 2.0 and the other isn't, yet both have same 59 min charge time. So I question is the Samsung Adaptive charger is charging slow or fast? Here are some pics of the remaining charge with original black USB Cable.
From my experience, Samsung Devices don't really play nice with qc certified devices thanks to Sammy doing their own thing. What you are seeing is what made me buy Samsung's power kit.
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I have no issues with my chargers, use stock charger blk, use sammy wireless charge pad with aftermarket cable and s7e wall plug charger and no issues. Still get fast charge. I even have a portable 10000mah sammy pack and use my gopro usb-c cable n gef fast charge.
Do you mean this one....
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-Fast-Charge-Battery-Pack-10.2A-Black/49851012#about-item
I use Aukey USB 3.0 Chargers & they Fast charge my phone :good:
https://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Charge...ons&keywords=AUKEY+USB+Wall+Charger+3.0&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charge...TF8&qid=1494010987&sr=1-5&keywords=AUKEY++3.0
Had similar problem. All my Anker QC2.0 doesn't fast charge my S8 while 3.0 does. got them both refunded while they are investigating.
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Had similar problem. All my Anker QC2.0 doesn't fast charge my S8 while 3.0 does. got them both refunded while they are investigating.
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Strange
does that mean S8 has QC 3.0
Yes I am in talks with Anker as well, seeing what they find out about my QC 2.0 Anker charger.
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Yes I am in talks with Anker as well, seeing what they find out about my QC 2.0 Anker charger.
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They sent me another QC 2.0 car charger, and it did not fast charge. I am going to try Berkin USB-PD car charger and see how it goes.
Estimated time. Don't expect them to always show exactly the time.
I have QC 2.0 and 3.0 chargers and they all "fast charge" but I don't expect what the estimated time show to fully charge be accurate or else they wouldn't say estimate.
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Do you mean this one....
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-Fast-Charge-Battery-Pack-10.2A-Black/49851012#about-item
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Yes except bestbuy carries that with a dual Samsung fast charger for car and a nice wireless upright fast charger all in one box for about $99 on sale every other week. Way more consistent everywhere now.
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Compared to my s7edge this s8+ charges a lot slower. The s7e would fast charge and wirelessly fast charge from any third party wireless pads/adapters.
The s8+ is finicky about what activates fast charge (especially wireless) and even while in fast charge it does not charge as fast as s7.
My guess is samsung slowed the charging down to help with battery degradation.
I found a weird thing last night when I set my phone to charge at 2 AM with about 7% battery just to wake up around 6 AM and it being at 86% charged. That was a long time, I don't know what's going on. Either the phone isn't quick wireless charging or the Pleson Fast Wireless pad I have sucks.
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I found a weird thing last night when I set my phone to charge at 2 AM with about 7% battery just to wake up around 6 AM and it being at 86% charged. That was a long time, I don't know what's going on. Either the phone isn't quick wireless charging or the Pleson Fast Wireless pad I have sucks.
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So, I've seen this behavior too. If you see the charge stuck, unplug the cable and plug it back in. I'm not sure why, but that fixes the issue immediately.
Are you guys charging in a warm room? S8 will stop charging if the battery exceeds a certain temperature. Samsung really went overboard with battery safety after the Note 7.
I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
See how what you have now performs. The best/fully compatible would be Samsung own charger. And any decent quality cables
I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
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I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long (assuming that you want the battery to be at it's "full" capacity after 2-3 years).
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long.
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Even still...I'll keep slow charging my phone...knowing that it will last 5 years.
My note 4 battery outlasted the actual phone. The touch screen packed up first. The battery still lasted 6 hours screen on.
I replaced it with a Note 9. Again...the battery was fine...and original. Same story...6 hours of screen on time.
Now I have a Note 22....or S22 Ultra.
I have used the Note 4's charger for all of these phones...with my 10watt Kosee wireless charger. Even on the Note 4...with a wireless adapter.
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45W is nothing...
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It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
Renate said:
It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
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It doesn't push 10 Amperes into the battery.
PPS charging is pushing from 3.3V to 20 Volts at 2.25Amps, it's dynamic charging and it depends on the device's state (temperature of the battery, the charger, the capacity of the battery).
I'm not sure where you get this information, and not trying to be rude now but maybe you should check up on both PD and PPS charging protocols that Samsung uses before assuming it's charging at 10 amps.
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I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
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1. With Galaxy S22 there is an USB-C to USB-C cable not USB-A (maybe a typo on your side). That cable is rated for the full power charge the device supports, that is 45w. It can make a difference if you are using it with a proper charger (that's the actual naming for the "wall wart"...it is called "charger" or "wall charger" btw).
2. Yes, you should get a different one if you wanna charge faster. Your actual charger is a (so called) "fast" charger with the charging power varying from 15W to 10W. Your phone supports from 25W up to 45W, that are the "ultra fast" chargers.
I'd suggest to get at least a 25W charger, also there are some extremely good Anker alternatives (even better that original Samsung chargers), look for Nano II 635 or 615 Anker chargers.
If you wanna keep your phone for an extended period (like 4-5 years or more), you might wanna activate that battery protection charge that only charges it till 85% and will preserve it for a longer period. If you switch phones after 2, even 3 years, don't bother, charge it as you like fast or slow till 100%
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I'm not sure where you get this information...
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If the charger is rated at 45 Watts and sometimes actually delivers that:
45 Watts / (maximum) 4.3 Volt battery > 10 Amperes
Maybe they are PWM-ing it or whatever, but the peak current is > 10 Amperes.
Ok, we can subtract the efficiency of the buck converter, but it's still in that neighborhood.
What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
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What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
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1.Q. Yes.
2.Q. It not gonna damage it if not pushed to full 100% or discharged completely before connecting.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but is there a decent wireless charger, that will give me fast wireless charging with a Spigen powerarc arcstation pro 65w charger? I have tried about 3-4 cheap crap ones, and they all give reg wireless charging of about 22% for an hour's charge.
The S22U‘s maximum wireless charging rate is only 15 watts. I use the Spigen PowerArc ArcField 15 watt wireless charger, which is powered by a conventional charger via USB C cable and works very well charging my S22U.