Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate for $24.50 +Tax FS - Galaxy S 4 Accessories

These are compatible with any device capable of Qi charging. This is just the charging pad only, you can pick up a receiver on amazon for $14 (listed at the bottom).
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/chargers/sku6290260.html#fbid=mkpZu7_rva2
Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate (various colors) for $24.50. Shipping is free.
Additional savings when purchasing multiples:
10% off 2 = $44.10
25% off 3 = $55.14
Available Colors:
Black
White
Red
Yellow
Blue
DT-900 power specs:
Power
Charger standby consumption: Less than 30 mW
Charger input current: 300 mA
Charger output current: 750 mA
Charger input voltage: 100 - 240 V AC, 50-60 Hz
Charger output voltage: 12 V
Operating temperature: -5 - +45 C
Power Management
Wireless charging standard: Qi
Qi receiver addon for S4:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CU7FO5C/

Theoriginalgiga said:
These are compatible with any device capable of Qi charging. This is just the charging pad only, you can pick up a receiver on amazon for $14 (listed at the bottom).
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/chargers/sku6290260.html#fbid=mkpZu7_rva2
Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate (various colors) for $24.50. Shipping is free.
Additional savings when purchasing multiples:
10% off 2 = $44.10
25% off 3 = $55.14
Available Colors:
Black
White
Red
Yellow
Blue
DT-900 power specs:
Power
Charger standby consumption: Less than 30 mW
Charger input current: 300 mA
Charger output current: 750 mA
Charger input voltage: 100 - 240 V AC, 50-60 Hz
Charger output voltage: 12 V
Operating temperature: -5 - +45 C
Power Management
Wireless charging standard: Qi
Qi receiver addon for S4:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CU7FO5C/
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Wish I would of seen this before I bought mine off of Ebay.
I also bought the wireless charger off of Ebay for less than Amazon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Standard...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2ec93717c8

Very true, but the one on amazon is 2 day shipping for prime people or orders over 25 and the one on amazon as charging output of 1000mah while the one on ebay can only do 650. Now I know the Nokia charging plate can only do 750, but it's nice being able to charge faster if you happen to find a charging plate that does do 1000mah
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Unfortunately Samsung has decided to raise the price of their charge ($60) so the discount no longer works!!! Was going to order it next month but guess ATT/Nokia is going to get my money instead.

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Unfortunately Samsung has decided to raise the price of their charge ($60) so the discount no longer works!!! Was going to order it next month but guess ATT/Nokia is going to get my money instead.
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I should be getting them in today so I'll get pictures of the setup, install and how well it works.

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I should be getting them in today so I'll get pictures of the setup, install and how well it works.
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Excellent! I look forward to it.

Ok, I installed the wireless charger and set it onto the Nokia pad and works great! the best part is it charges through my case (Neo Hybrid). It does bow the back which does give it some wobble but it isn't bad.
This is showing that the case already started out bowed, so any major bowing is the case, not the charging unit.
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the charger pad in place, there is an adhesive pad, but I didn't use it, the tension between the back and battery keeps the pad in place. it does slightly cover up the sim slot and SD card slot.
you can see it a little warped, nothing major, but you can feel it.
Another angle
With the case on, barely noticeable
again barely noticeable
I've read a lot of posts saying this needs to be perfectly centered on the Nokia charger, I can tell you it DOES NOT! here's a couple pictures with it obviously not centered. all you really need to do is make sure the receiver is over the charger. I've tossed my phone onto the pad in a bunch of different directions and it has worked 99% of the time.
you can see it's charging at 640ma, I'm currently at 55% charge so I'd imagine it would reach the full 750 if I was lower.
so I spent approx $80 for 3 of these, receivers for both my S4 and my girlfriends S3 and I'm sold.
Hope this helps!

spierce617 said:
Wish I would of seen this before I bought mine off of Ebay.
I also bought the wireless charger off of Ebay for less than Amazon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Standard...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2ec93717c8
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Funny you should mention looking for a 1000ma charger because when I went to look at the receiver I noticed this...
http://www.amazon.com/GMYLE-Wireless-Charging-Charger-Standard/dp/B00DOVN1W6/ref=pd_sim_cps_4
It was on the same page in the what other customer's bought slider thing. $26.49 + $4.49 shipping so $31 vs $25. Is $6 worth it?

poqeteer said:
Funny you should mention looking for a 1000ma charger because when I went to look at the receiver I noticed this...
http://www.amazon.com/GMYLE-Wireless-Charging-Charger-Standard/dp/B00DOVN1W6/ref=pd_sim_cps_4
It was on the same page in the what other customer's bought slider thing. $26.49 + $4.49 shipping so $31 vs $25. Is $6 worth it?
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I have that charger. I just ordered the receiver, I'll be getting it Tuesday. I'll post how fast it charges once I get it
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Actionx1 said:
I have that charger. I just ordered the receiver, I'll be getting it Tuesday. I'll post how fast it charges once I get it
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That would be good to know, my phone has been charging at 640ma which isn't the speediest thing in the world, but will fully charge my phone at night. I'm curious if it's the charger which won't go past 640 or the receiver.
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Actionx1 said:
I have that charger. I just ordered the receiver, I'll be getting it Tuesday. I'll post how fast it charges once I get it
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Cool, I'm curious if the output is any different.
Theoriginalgiga said:
That would be good to know, my phone has been charging at 640ma which isn't the speediest thing in the world, but will fully charge my phone at night. I'm curious if it's the charger which won't go past 640 or the receiver.
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Makes me kinda wonder if there is a limiting factor in the phone itself? Don't know much about the process but it would seem strange to me that the amount to charge would really be a gating factor on how much the output of the charger would be...

poqeteer said:
Makes me kinda wonder if there is a limiting factor in the phone itself? Don't know much about the process but it would seem strange to me that the amount to charge would really be a gating factor on how much the output of the charger would be...
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Unless there's a limiter placed on the connectors for inductive charging I don't see it being a device related limitation. My thought is either Nokia oversold the output current on the charger, because of my case I'm seeing a 110mah drop in inductive charging, the receiver I put in the phone was oversold (saying it's 1000ma, but really only 640) or the app I used to measure the current is wrong.
With Actionx1 getting in the 1000ma receiver, we'll be able to eliminate the receiver as the potential culprit. When I get home tonight I'll attempt to charge without the case to see if that makes any difference.
Either way though this is just an exercise in curiosity for me. I'm happy as a clam only paying about $19 for each of the charging pads and they work great.

poqeteer said:
Funny you should mention looking for a 1000ma charger because when I went to look at the receiver I noticed this...
http://www.amazon.com/GMYLE-Wireless-Charging-Charger-Standard/dp/B00DOVN1W6/ref=pd_sim_cps_4
It was on the same page in the what other customer's bought slider thing. $26.49 + $4.49 shipping so $31 vs $25. Is $6 worth it?
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I have that charger. It's the worst one out of all that I have. I also have the samsung charger and one I got off ebay (similar to this: Qi Wireless Charger)
The GMYLE doesn't produce enough range to power through an otterbox case, while the others both do.
It does charge decently, but heats up my devices more than the others.
The red charge indicator glow is also very obvious and bleeds through the white casing at night. Not crazy bright but obvious enough.

I got my wireless charger adapter for my S4:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D3K7UZW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got NFC to work after I removed the stickers from both sides.
Wireless charging still works with this case on:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4OSNRW/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Im now concerned about the temperature...

Related

$40 USB "Qi" charger found

Couldn't find this in a forum search
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1215400
Says Qi and works with N4, but can't find it in the Qi site and there's no Qi symbol on it, so probably not approved (but neither are all the N4's currently out there [pre-rev 12])
$40 shipped and could be the basis of an in-car solution...
Anyone tried it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
Same item it looks like just different description and what not - from the same vendor.
parker09 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
Same item it looks like just different description and what not - from the same vendor.
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Yup, I (re)found the USB version.
Fasttech USB Qi Charger
Ordered mine today, says 10-14 days shipping directly from fasttech. When I get it ill throw up some pics and a review on how it works.
WibblyW said:
Couldn't find this in a forum search
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1215400
Says Qi and works with N4, but can't find it in the Qi site and there's no Qi symbol on it, so probably not approved (but neither are all the N4's currently out there [pre-rev 12])
$40 shipped and could be the basis of an in-car solution...
Anyone tried it?
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On an unrelated note, I've never heard of this website before, it looks very promising! I have a feeling I will be throwing my money at my screen soon.
Looking forward to a review!
wow. this looks very clean OP.
anticipating some pictures and review.
More detail and N4 references here
http://mcpower2012.en.ecplaza.net/2013-5v-usb-qi-wireless--356088-2839504.html
Found another thread for something very similar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
Efficient output is just 500-700mA? Too small to charge N4?
I thought the standard one is around 1A or over.
Thanks.
500-700 mA is perfectly ok for charging. When you charge from a computer via USB, the max current is 500 mA unless you use kernel tweaks.
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ma678 said:
Efficient output is just 500-700mA? Too small to charge N4?
I thought the standard one is around 1A or over.
Thanks.
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It's got to depend on the output (mA) the USB power adaptor has to offer too. They even show it connected to a laptop USB port. So I think it WILL charge, but maybe significantly slower than a direct power connection.
By using a lower output USB power supply, sounds like you might be able to trade charge speed with temperature rise. If so it may be ideal as a charger to keep your phone topped up. Kind of like a low power trickle charger, which would be fine if my phone is on it most of the day... I actually don't like the idea of Qi chargers that make the phone get hot - seems to be trading convenience and wear on the phone's USB connector with reduced battery service life as it keeps going through nasty heat cycles?
Decided to risk it and order one
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jkoljo said:
500-700 mA is perfectly ok for charging. When you charge from a computer via USB, the max current is 500 mA unless you use kernel tweaks.
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not sure about that, it might charge If your not doing anything, but say if using gps it might not supply enough juice to charge fast enough
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BrianDigital said:
not sure about that, it might charge If your not doing anything, but say if using gps it might not supply enough juice to charge fast enough
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I agree, Used in a car with GPS on, maybe pulling 3G data for maps, bright screen, etc., it's likely that despite this charger, the phone will slowly go flat. And get hot doing so... All that energy from the battery/charger has to go somewhere - mainly heat once the battery is charged. If the phone's consuming, say 750mA at around 4.1v battery voltage, that's around 3W of heat to dissipate.
I am investing time looking for a Qi charger but that problem appears to be present on several cheap alternatives, the current they supply is not enough, or you might expend a couple of extra hours charging your phone
Just a quick update, ordered from fast tech on Jan 29th and received shipping notification today (Jan. 31st), registered airmail with tracking from Hong Kong post.
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I do have this wireless charger. Ordered from aliexpress, it's always the same with different branding and logos.
It does the job, charging.
But:
Need to be very precise when positioning it
Back glass make the phone sliding, and cancel all the effort offered in the above point, making the phone not charging
I recommend to wait for a charger with more than only one wireless charging chip/antenna.
Ok I have this charger now. On first charge and working ok so far... Seems to be best in this position. Has now cut off an an indicated 99%...
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Lining up the edge of the charger with where the bottom of the LCD is, seems reliable. Using an XtremeGuard style protector on the back, which gives enough friction to stop sliding if the charger is horizontal and the phone vibrates.
Above is FastTech image. I'm using stock N7 charger and cable at the moment because it was handy. Unit came with a USB charger and cable (with EU plug - I'm UK based)
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Picked up phone and used it to 98%. Returned to charger and it charged back to 99%, but didn't beep this time when charging started. Maybe it needs to be more discharged before this happens....
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Now at 100%. Charger seems to poll the Nexus about every 30 secs (solid blue light for a few secs) to see if it needs charging. Then light goes off. When it charges, the blue light flashes slowly but continuously.
Did anybody try the Large models?
For some reason they are cheaper even though they come in black or white and have the Qi logo/writing on it.
facetubespam said:
Did anybody try the Large models?
For some reason they are cheaper even though they come in black or white and have the Qi logo/writing on it.
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They are reported to work. I wanted the flexibility of being able to use alternate sources of power (car, pc, wall adaptor). have yet to try limited power available from a PC's USB port...

Wireless charging????

I'm trying to convince myself why I would buy a wireless charger... I just don't see the reasoning because there is still a wire got G to the charging pad that the phone has to sit on... So I guess it just saves me the small hassle of having to plug and unplug my phone but is that worth $50... So my question is why did u or why are u planning on buying one... Am I missing something?
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Because it's cool
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Lol I was hoping for just a little more...
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Because its the most convenient thing ever....
I dislike the "official" n5 wireless charger, Instead I have the samsung S4 wireless charger, its a tray a littler larger than the n5 you just set it on.... anytime I'm at my desk I just set it on the charger. It might not seem like much, buts its well well worth it if you have an extra 50 bucks.
cables2590 said:
Lol I was hoping for just a little more...
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No... That's it... Try it and you'll want one
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Ben36 said:
No... That's it... Try it and you'll want one
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I might try it just to feel cool lol...
starnostar said:
Because its the most convenient thing ever....
I dislike the "official" n5 wireless charger, Instead I have the samsung S4 wireless charger, its a tray a littler larger than the n5 you just set it on.... anytime I'm at my desk I just set it on the charger. It might not seem like much, buts its well well worth it if you have an extra 50 bucks.
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See I would want one that's big enough to charge my phone and my nexus 7... It would be sitting on my nightstand since I don't have a desk job but I don't know I might try one anyways... Do u know of one that's big enough for the both?
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cables2590 said:
I'm trying to convince myself why I would buy a wireless charger... I just don't see the reasoning because there is still a wire got G to the charging pad that the phone has to sit on... So I guess it just saves me the small hassle of having to plug and unplug my phone but is that worth $50... So my question is why did u or why are u planning on buying one... Am I missing something?
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For me the reason is practical (the reason why I am planning). I use my phone as an alarm clock so my phone must be plugged in all night on charge to ensure that it goes off and the phone doesn't die.
My partner is often in bed when I go to bed so the room is dark and must remain so. Plugging the USB cable in is quite awkward in the dark and quite easy to get the wrong way round and sometimes I find it just isn't inserted properly. For me, dropping it on a wireless charging unit will make it much easier in these situations.
I just bought one without reason and i love it. You can use it with no light easy. Grab and go (it happens me a lot of time at work that i have to run somewhere and with cable I had some accidents :S)
rootSU said:
For me the reason is practical (the reason why I am planning). I use my phone as an alarm clock so my phone must be plugged in all night on charge to ensure that it goes off and the phone doesn't die.
My partner is often in bed when I go to bed so the room is dark and must remain so. Plugging the USB cable in is quite awkward in the dark and quite easy to get the wrong way round and sometimes I find it just isn't inserted properly. For me, dropping it on a wireless charging unit will make it much easier in these situations.
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same reasoning for me. my wife liked it so much she wanted one too.
Its just cool and easy take the plunge you won't regret it
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Lerway Wireless Qi Power Charger Pad for Lumia920 HTC 8X S4 S3 Note II (Black) by Shenzhen Lerway Technology Co.,Ltd. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E9MUNWU/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_3yNQsb12TEZNY
Picked this up for 20 bucks has a light to tell you if it's charging or not. It not super bright so at night on the nightstand I don't see it unless I really look. The size is perfect for our phones. It is a nice charger.
Once you go wireless you will not want to plug in anymore. I hate having to charge at work. I drive a truck all day and having a cord is a pita...
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starnostar said:
Because its the most convenient thing ever....
I dislike the "official" n5 wireless charger, Instead I have the samsung S4 wireless charger, its a tray a littler larger than the n5 you just set it on.... anytime I'm at my desk I just set it on the charger. It might not seem like much, buts its well well worth it if you have an extra 50 bucks.
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I have a wireless charger for my WII that holds both remotes don't know if that would work.
I will bump this 2-week old thread and say I was skeptical about buying a wireless charger for my Nexus 5. I received the official Nexus charger as a Christmas gift and it's very nice. Now if it's worth $50, only you can decide.
As others have said, it's nice to not have to fidget with a micro USB cable and connector in the dark. I find the USB jack on the N5 to be trickier than any other phone I've owned for some reason. I'm always fumbling with the connector for several seconds when I plug it in. This isn't a problem with the wireless charger.
There's also the added benefit that there is no longer a loose micro USB cable dangling between my bed and night stand. The nexus charger has a nice grip on the bottom so it doesn't move on my night stand.
TL;DR: I like that I got one as a gift, but I probably wouldn't pay $50 of my own money for it.
I just posted this in the Accessories Forum, but I'll put it here to. Seems relevant enough. If you don't need/care about using a big name brand, you won't have to spend anywhere near $50.
This is the one I'm currently using. Just a generic Qi charger off ebay. Has the same 5V 1A output as pretty much all other Qi chargers.
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Works pretty good, no complaints.
I also just saw that it's even cheaper now than when I ordered it before. just ordered 2 more.
It's currently $11.42 with free shipping. (Choose Black Charging Pad or White Charging Pad from the drop down list).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-S4-i9500-Charging-Pad-Receiver-/121176056602?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item1c36a7e31a
I also just ordered this one for my desk.
Pretty cheap as well. $14.83 with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-Charge-Pad-A-for-Nexus4-5-HTC-8X-Lumia920-820-Note2-3-S3-4-/271329239542?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3f2c7ba1f6
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So if you just look around, you can easily find generic ones that work perfectly well for a very reasonable price.
I would get one that puts out more then 1A preferably 2A(it can do that right?)
EDIT: I want a quick charge because it's wireless. That means I need it to quickly charge when its on there because it ain't charging when I pick it up obviously.
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Wireless Charging uses more power to charge your phone, so if your an energy conscious eco saver, then be aware that wireless chargers are not that efficient at getting the charge to your phone.
I am sure XDA did a review on the Nexus 5 Charger (which also works for the Nexus 7 (2013)).
If you watch that video, it seems a bit flimsy to get the phone on a sweet spot to get it to charge, I am not sure if it is because he rushed it, and didn't leave it a second before fiddling to move it to a new spot. But it didn't look good for $50.
If the official charger was around $20, then yes, but considering you can plug your phone in via USB and STILL USE IT.
Where as with wireless, its on its pad, and you either have to pick the pad up with the phone, or just take the phone off charge, to ready that notification etc.
My view, it may be cool and neat to just place it down and charge, but its neither practical or efficient to use.
Just an update as my last post was to "justify" my intention to get a wireless charger, I now have a Nokia one (chosen specifically from research).
Got to say, its great. Although it still takes 2 hands in the dark, cold reality that is bedtime in my flat (one to assess the base orientation and the other to situate), it's much easier than grabbing a cable and plugging it in. I can't damage the port, no fiddling around in the dark and shining the screen on the cable to see which way up it goes ... just goes in...
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Dragn4rce said:
I would get one that puts out more then 1A preferably 2A(it can do that right?)
EDIT: I want a quick charge because it's wireless. That means I need it to quickly charge when its on there because it ain't charging when I pick it up obviously.
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I have yet to find a Qi charger pad that can output above 1A max to a device. That includes the official Nexus 5 wireless charger, GMYLE, Tylt Vu, Samsung etc. That's regardless of price ranges.
The official Nexus 5 charger for example takes 1.8A from the wall adapter to the charger, then the charger plate outputs the same 1A as everything else.
Factor in ~70% or so efficiency, and Qi chargers will generally max out charging the Nexus 5 at around 700 - 750mA.
I used CurrentWidget to compare the stock Nexus 5 wired charger and my generic ebay Qi charger using various connections.
This is what I got for max sustained charge:
I used the Stock USB cable for all of the variations.
Stock 1.2A LG wall adapter: 1053mA
2A USB wall adapter: 1053mA
Built in USB input on power bar: 1053mA
USB 3.0 port (desktop computer): 446mA (surprised it was so low for a USB 3.0 charge port)
USB 2.0 port (desktop computer): 334mA
Generic Qi charger (2A input/1A output)/Built in USB input on power bar: 751mA
Generic Qi charger/Stock LG adapter: 655mA (corrected, sorry typo)
Generic Qi charger/2A USB adapter: 751mA
Generic Qi charger/USB 3.0 port: 696mA (interesting compared to directly plugging into USB 3.0)
Generic Qi charger/USB 2.0 port: 502mA (low, but again higher than direct cable)
So looking at all of these, as well as looking at the stock LG charger (as well as a higher output 2A I had around), I couldn't get any higher than 1053mA charge rate regardless. I'm sure that's due to some built in settings in the Nexus 5.
What was more surprising (unless I screwed something up) was the crap charge rate using direct USB cable connection into a USB 3.0 charging port. It was only a little bit of an improvement over USB 2.0. This was somewhat negated using the Qi charger into the same desktop USB ports (which surprised me further) but still wasn't as efficient as directly into a power outlet.
So, if there ever is a Qi charger that outputs at 2A, given (from my anecdotal test anyway) a direct cable using a 2A adapter gave the same 1053mA max charge rate, I think the most you can expect is getting a little closer to the stock plug. I don't think wireless charging will ever be faster (or even equivalent) than wired given the efficiency loss, even if it was higher output. (My guess anyway) I think the 1A Qi chargers out right now are giving roughly what you can expect for Nexus 5 max wireless charging. It might even be limited like the wired charging seems to be.
I think the more important thing is, not to use the USB ports on a computer, even if it's a USB 3.0 charge port. Using the Qi charger to the computer it was still less than max the Qi was capable of. I've ordered 3 more 2A adapters to use with the Qi charger I have, plus the 3 additional Qi chargers I've ordered just to make sure I'm getting the most out of it.
So if you can find a cheap Qi charger (like the ones I posted earlier) you might as well go for it. As long as you check that the output is 1A, they essentially (charging wise) perform the same as the chargers that cost $20 - $50+ more.
If anyone can do any other tests with their Qi chargers to confirm or negate my findings, that would be great.

Wireless Charging Car Mount

I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and had gotten pretty used to wireless charging. Had a mount in my car that supported Qi, and it had been at least a year since I messed with a USB cable.
Love my new Moto X and bought a coil that takes up the micro USB, but am having trouble finding a car mount big enough to support the larger MXPE. Any ideas?
lazyart said:
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and had gotten pretty used to wireless charging. Had a mount in my car that supported Qi, and it had been at least a year since I messed with a USB cable.
Love my new Moto X and bought a coil that takes up the micro USB, but am having trouble finding a car mount big enough to support the larger MXPE. Any ideas?
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I used the tylt vu car mount.
http://www.tylt.com/car-products/vu-car-wireless-charger
Worked really well. Phone (LG g2) would get pretty warm wireless charging with screen on navigating. I'm curious about this coil that you're using...please post a link. Thanks
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This is the coil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/25203978870...49&var=550898634010&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It's pretty generic, but you have to have a thin case for it to work. You also have to get the coil with the microUSB oriented the right direction or else it will cover the screen.
I use this case which I like, but the coil shows through covering the bottom of the Motorola logo which doesn't look too pretty.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FpNve9GIL._SX425_.jpg
If I find a solution that works in the car I'll get a Seidio Surface, which would hide the coil completely, and is wireless charging friendly.
lazyart said:
This is the coil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/25203978870...49&var=550898634010&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It's pretty generic, but you have to have a thin case for it to work. You also have to get the coil with the microUSB oriented the right direction or else it will cover the screen.
I use this case which I like, but the coil shows through covering the bottom of the Motorola logo which doesn't look too pretty.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FpNve9GIL._SX425_.jpg
If I find a solution that works in the car I'll get a Seidio Surface, which would hide the coil completely, and is wireless charging friendly.
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Tylt typically has sales often so don't let the high price be a detraction. They make nice products. Sign up for the email so get the sales. The vu car mount would easily handle the mxpe.
Edit: sprung for a qi coil similar (rerrii on Amazon) to the one you have. Invested in a case too. I did notice that there are only a couple cases that cover the Moto M. Tudia slim arch and JOTO hybrid to name a couple.
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ffejy462 said:
Tylt typically has sales often so don't let the high price be a detraction. They make nice products. Sign up for the email so get the sales. The vu car mount would easily handle the mxpe.
Edit: sprung for a qi coil similar (rerrii on Amazon) to the one you have. Invested in a case too. I did notice that there are only a couple cases that cover the Moto M. Tudia slim arch and JOTO hybrid to name a couple.
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I like the Tylt, but I can't use it. I installed a USB charging port in my car (splicing the constant hot from the stereo). It charges much faster than the lighter port, which for some reason doesn't always work. So I was looking for something to straight to USB.
On a whim I ordered this charging pad which is .2 mm thick. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EBQ8RSG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Going to put it in the TaoTronics Universal mount. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXWFUQC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Should be enough room there for both the pad and the MXPE. I'll use velcro tape on the mount and the pad to keep it in place (glue gun probably won't hold up in Florida sun). It arrives tomorrow, we'll see what happens.
I was also interested in wireless charging, so I got one of these universal charging pads for a few bucks. It plugs into the micro-usb port, and can be tucked into the case since it's very thin. Similar to this one:
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The good news is that it works, is very convenient, and it doesn't generate much heat. The bad news is that it's horribly slow. I tried two different charging pads to make sure it wasn't the pad, and used it on my in-car 3-coil charger base, and multiple desk 3-coil chargers (which charged other phones at a reasonable pace).
To describe what I mean by slow - Ampere reports charging rate fluctuating around 200-400mA, however, it seems to only charge 10% per hour or so. I left it to charge last night at 30%, and I woke up and it's not even full.
If anybody else is getting better results, please let me know.
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To describe what I mean by slow - Ampere reports charging rate fluctuating around 200-400mA, however, it seems to only charge 10% per hour or so. I left it to charge last night at 30%, and I woke up and it's not even full.
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Don't forget that your phone is also using the battery at night. A charging rate of 200-400mA would barely cover the consumption, and that's why your phone doesn't seem to charge. IMHO anything less than 1000mA is useless with most current phones, and the standard really is 3000mA+ with Quickcharge 2.0.
VebKr said:
Don't forget that your phone is also using the battery at night. A charging rate of 200-400mA would barely cover the consumption, and that's why your phone doesn't seem to charge. IMHO anything less than 1000mA is useless with most current phones, and the standard really is 3000mA+ with Quickcharge 2.0.
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Yeah I've more or less given up on the universal wireless receiver. It just takes way too long. Maybe one day there's be fast wireless charging receivers.
how well does the universal wireless charging coil charge? 10% an hour? if that's the case then there's really no point even using tbh. I really wished the Moto X Pure had wireless charging out of the box
aznflawless said:
how well does the universal wireless charging coil charge? 10% an hour? if that's the case then there's really no point even using tbh. I really wished the Moto X Pure had wireless charging out of the box
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Yeah it's too slow to really be useful. I tried two different universal charging receivers, of different design. What's unusual is that I used to use this solution on my LG G2 (which also had a 3000mAh) battery and it was much quicker.
I suspect there must be some difference in either the USB circuitry or maybe the kernel I'm using, as some kernels support an accelerated USB charging rate. In any case, looks like no good for now. Maybe one day there'll be universal charging receivers which support fast charge (like the S6/S7 has).
I saw this thread a few days ago and ordered the Tylt from Amazon. Due to the curved back adding to the thickness of the phone, it didn't work very will with my 2015 Pure Edition. Sending it back to Amazon. FYI...

I want a QI compatible back cover. Rumours, news, releases?

I really like the back cover idea, even though I'm not sure I will be buying a battery back, at least not yet as they're waaay too expensive.
However, one enormous oversight from Lenovo/Moto is that the stock back cover doesn't have a QI receiver built in.
It's thick enough that a slim QI coil would fit comfortably, and not add any bulk from the "style mod"
It appears that the phone itself has the electronics required built in, so the thickness should not be affected.
(Based on the fact that there's a system service preinstalled about wireless charging)
I haven't been able to find anything on ebay or google, has anyone heard or seen something interesting?
Still no rumors but it's a bit early... anyway I'm pretty sure that a QI compatible cover and a slimmer battery pack (1000 mAh?) will be some of the first third parts MODs developed...
I'm assuming you are NOT looking for the Incipio battery with Qi Charger built in? I got one of those at best buy and love it, but there's no denying that it adds a bit of heft to the phone. Personally, I don't mind this at all and prefer a slightly thicker phone.
Well, for one that battery doesn't appear to get released in Sweden. The only back pack available is the non wireless at 120 something bucks. It's priced a little extreme imo..
(All things wireless charging are really hard to come by locally. Strange really since IKEA actually makes qi compatible furniture these days..)
And it really is a little on the thick side, although the fact that I can drop the backpack directly on a charger and still have my phone is genius.
A backpack with at most 1mm extra bulk from a style cover and some miniscule 1Ah battery built in would be cool though.
Should be possible, the ipad air has some really thin cells inside, I've used butchered ipad air batteries for several projects.
As a side note, the Chinese super premium brand Xiaomi is about to release a 2-way QC3.0 Type C power bank.
That could be a good middle ground for me.
How much bulk added? Like the JBL speaker bulk?
Can you post a picture what it looks like on your phone?
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How much bulk added? Like the JBL speaker bulk?
Can you post a picture what it looks like on your phone?
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The Incipio battery is wireless charging ready, just check the model. I don't have any camera but you can see the three mods and compare them.
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The Incipio battery is wireless charging ready, just check the model. I don't have any camera but you can see the three mods and compare them.
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Yes, but please note that model in picture is without wireless charge option (MT-381-WHT).
Models with wireless charge are MT-382-WHT (white) and MT-382-BLK (black), even if they are identical from exterior ....
These days they are very hard to find and reserved by Motorola to few markets only...
After spending 25 minutes on the phone to Lenovo sales (rather than risk ordering the wrong one online) and having it double checked twice I'm waiting to return what they sent - just a moto mod charge pack not a wireless one as ordered.
After another three calls it turns out they are not in the UK yet.... unless you know differently??
stewarta13wsb said:
After spending 25 minutes on the phone to Lenovo sales (rather than risk ordering the wrong one online) and having it double checked twice I'm waiting to return what they sent - just a moto mod charge pack not a wireless one as ordered.
After another three calls it turns out they are not in the UK yet.... unless you know differently??
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Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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Versions listed on amazon in europe have a different code from the above, but are all without wireless, so they are about MT-381-xxx with different coding...
RedRamage said:
Ugh... I sooo hate that. I mean, I know mistake happen, but when you do as much research as you possible can and double check with the company alerting them to the potential for a mixup and they still send you the wrong thing!
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And that was the 28th October... here we are the 12th November and they still haven't even authorised collection of the wrong item - never mind a credit And it's not for the want of trying... emails, repeated phone calls, general 'abuse' on Facebook
I hate Lenovo big style, never again!
I know this is a little off-topic but I have the Tumi wireless charging battery mod and for the life of my I can't seem to find a way to consistently charge the pack wirelessly. It would always recognize that it's on a wireless charger and start charging for a few seconds then disconnect then reconnect then disconnect...so on and so forth. Does anyone have the same issue or do I have a faulty unit?
Edit: Old Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + Generic USB A to Micro USB (to power the wireless charger)
Originally I had my ChoeTech Fast wireless charger hooked up as shown above. The issue wasn't the Tumi, the wireless charger or the power brick. It was the generic cable I used to plug the brick into the wireless charging pad. I switched to a higher quality cable that I knew would work with the max output of the adaptive fast charging wall brick and all my issues went away! Hope that helps!
New Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + High quality adaptive fast charging micro usb cable from Anker.
Mouahmong said:
I know this is a little off-topic but I have the Tumi wireless charging battery mod and for the life of my I can't seem to find a way to consistently charge the pack wirelessly. It would always recognize that it's on a wireless charger and start charging for a few seconds then disconnect then reconnect then disconnect...so on and so forth. Does anyone have the same issue or do I have a faulty unit?
Edit: Old Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + Generic USB A to Micro USB (to power the wireless charger)
Originally I had my ChoeTech Fast wireless charger hooked up as shown above. The issue wasn't the Tumi, the wireless charger or the power brick. It was the generic cable I used to plug the brick into the wireless charging pad. I switched to a higher quality cable that I knew would work with the max output of the adaptive fast charging wall brick and all my issues went away! Hope that helps!
New Hardware: ChoeTech fast wireless charger (10w max output) + ChoeTech adaptive fast charger wall brick + High quality adaptive fast charging micro usb cable from Anker.
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Hi, I got a question, can the battery bod be charged (on the wireless charger) if the phone is not connected to it?
That would be very handy.
Thanks! :good:
yes

Pixel 4 Wireless Chargers Compatible at 10w

Hi guys, I've read that the pixel 4 is actually compatible with wireless charging with 3rd party chargers at 11w! This is great news, but apparently it only works for wireless chargers that are EPP?
I thought it would be good if people could post the best wireless chargers they have found that work at speeds 10w or more!
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For me i have this from last year. So i don't need to buy new one. I love rotation design
Qi Wireless Charger, Lenovo Fast Wireless Charging Pad W03, Rotatable Design With USB-C Cable (Without USB Wall Charger) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752F5HX1/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Dr3RDbX07V7B1
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Win! Ordering that puppy now!
Does anyone know if it's possible to use a magnetic car holder without interfering with wireless charging? I suppose there should be a safe portion on the back to have the metal plate?
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Does anyone know if it's possible to use a magnetic car holder without interfering with wireless charging? I suppose there should be a safe portion on the back to have the metal plate?
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Any wireless charger for Car have holds between sides. Just i think no need interfering
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Apologies for not making my question clear, I'm talking about home wireless chargers while having the metal piece that allows the phone to grip to the magnetic car holder. I'm using this thing:
Koomus Pro CD-M Universal CD Slot Magnetic Cradle-less Smartphone Car Mount Holder for all iPhone and Android Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016GNYZIC/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_nncSDbNDZAFAR
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Apologies for not making my question clear, I'm talking about home wireless chargers while having the metal piece that allows the phone to grip to the magnetic car holder. I'm using this thing:
Koomus Pro CD-M Universal CD Slot Magnetic Cradle-less Smartphone Car Mount Holder for all iPhone and Android Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016GNYZIC/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_nncSDbNDZAFAR
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Maybe some brands have magnetic. But I never saw. Because almost phones have glass in the back. The wireless charger uses silicone. Silicon with glass will have their cohesion among them is strong. I guess it wouldn't be good if the magnets were not easy to pick up and go fast
I hope my answer was clear
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slimfady said:
Apologies for not making my question clear, I'm talking about home wireless chargers while having the metal piece that allows the phone to grip to the magnetic car holder. I'm using this thing:
Koomus Pro CD-M Universal CD Slot Magnetic Cradle-less Smartphone Car Mount Holder for all iPhone and Android Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016GNYZIC/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_nncSDbNDZAFAR
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I can't tell ya what the charging rate will be on these phones, but these are an awesome piece.
https://www.scosche.com/collections/wireless-phone-chargers
DinarQ8 said:
For me i have this from last year. So i don't need to buy new one. I love rotation design
Qi Wireless Charger, Lenovo Fast Wireless Charging Pad W03, Rotatable Design With USB-C Cable (Without USB Wall Charger) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752F5HX1/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Dr3RDbX07V7B1
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dose this need a qc3 brick or will a usb-pd brick work at full speed
In the description page they said Its need QC2.0. And i think it will work well with QC3.0
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Belkin has 2 10 watt wireless chargers that work great with my pixel 4 xl.. one is a stand up version that works with the phone both horizontally or vertically. The other is a pad that you put the phone on flat laying down. I picked up 2 of the stands and they're great. And can be found on Amazon for about 57 bucks each.
Found my answer:
https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/1187789028675862529?s=20
If you place the plate at the bottom of the case, wireless charging will still work.
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DinarQ8 said:
For me i have this from last year. So i don't need to buy new one. I love rotation design
Qi Wireless Charger, Lenovo Fast Wireless Charging Pad W03, Rotatable Design With USB-C Cable (Without USB Wall Charger) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752F5HX1/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Dr3RDbX07V7B1
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I've received the 3 I ordered of this product.
After doing some research, I noticed something.
The Fast Charging uses the EPP (Extended Power Profile) for the full 11 W delivery. However, if you look at the embossed metal info plat on the back, it says that, if a 9V charger is used, the puck delivers 1.1 A of power wirelessly.
9 V * 1.1 A == 9.9 W of wireless charging power, so it is right at the 10 W charging for the previous Pixel devices, and close enough to the 11 W of the 'new' Fast Wireless Charging that I'm going to stick with these 3 at this price point.
Thank you again for mentioning these.
I've been using one now for ~ 30 minutes and it has charged my Coral (Yes, I have the XL, not the non-XL - I just had the names backwards because of the leaks) fully. Not bad for wireless. An ideal solution for overnight charging.
Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jz7GmuoSConSTSSV8
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I've received the 3 I ordered of this product.
After doing some research, I noticed something.
The Fast Charging uses the EPP (Extended Power Profile) for the full 11 W delivery. However, if you look at the embossed metal info plat on the back, it says that, if a 9V charger is used, the puck delivers 1.1 A of power wirelessly.
9 V * 1.1 A == 9.9 W of wireless charging power, so it is right at the 10 W charging for the previous Pixel devices, and close enough to the 11 W of the 'new' Fast Wireless Charging that I'm going to stick with these 3 at this price point.
Thank you again for mentioning these.
I've been using one now for ~ 30 minutes and it has charged my Coral (Yes, I have the XL, not the non-XL - I just had the names backwards because of the leaks) fully. Not bad for wireless. An ideal solution for overnight charging.
Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jz7GmuoSConSTSSV8
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Thank you for this perfect experience ⁦[emoji1360]⁩
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I don't think this charger supports EPP, according to the WPC's website https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products, this Lenovo wireless charger only support basic power profile and not extended power profile (EPP).
So you won't get the full 10W fast wireless charge, it will only wireless charge the Pixel 4 at the slower 5W rate.
johnlgalt said:
I've received the 3 I ordered of this product.
After doing some research, I noticed something.
The Fast Charging uses the EPP (Extended Power Profile) for the full 11 W delivery. However, if you look at the embossed metal info plat on the back, it says that, if a 9V charger is used, the puck delivers 1.1 A of power wirelessly.
9 V * 1.1 A == 9.9 W of wireless charging power, so it is right at the 10 W charging for the previous Pixel devices, and close enough to the 11 W of the 'new' Fast Wireless Charging that I'm going to stick with these 3 at this price point.
Thank you again for mentioning these.
I've been using one now for ~ 30 minutes and it has charged my Coral (Yes, I have the XL, not the non-XL - I just had the names backwards because of the leaks) fully. Not bad for wireless. An ideal solution for overnight charging.
Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jz7GmuoSConSTSSV8
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If it BPP or EPP ok for me. i only use the wireless charger at night
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I don't think this charger supports EPP, according to the WPC's website https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products, this Lenovo wireless charger only support basic power profile and not extended power profile (EPP).
So you won't get the full 10W fast wireless charge, it will only wireless charge the Pixel 4 at the slower 5W rate.
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Yeah, the Fast charging I was referring to the phone. Not the charger. It definitely doesn't officially have EPP.
I'm trying to figure out if there is a way I can verify what power is actually being supplied to the phone a week as being used by the phone to wirelessly charge.
As soon as I find out I will test officially and post results.
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One failure and one success on fast wireless charging to report. I tried this one first: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X8RXG69/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . Was hoping it would work for me as I like how it matches the fabric case, but it doesn't fast charge. Returned it and bought this Spigen one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MN5FH7Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . Fast charges at 9W. It's not fabric, but it's a nice enough stand, and the fact that it folds flat is handy as well.
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Yeah, the Fast charging I was referring to the phone. Not the charger. It definitely doesn't officially have EPP.
I'm trying to figure out if there is a way I can verify what power is actually being supplied to the phone a week as being used by the phone to wirelessly charge.
As soon as I find out I will test officially and post results.
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Just download Ampere - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
current (A) x voltage (V) = power (W). Standard BPP Qi Wattage is 5W. So this qi charger should hopefully give you close to 5W.
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Just download Ampere - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
current (A) x voltage (V) = power (W). Standard BPP Qi Wattage is 5W. So this qi charger should hopefully give you close to 5W.
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Or use this app its show you how much supplies Watt give you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evo.inware
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