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Introduction:
So there has been a lot of bugs & glitches coming out as we get to use the phone more and more and they just seemed to be all over the forum and the forum is looking very unorganized.
Request: Can any of our G2x forum Mod's made this a sticky?
Here is the list of bugs and glitches that i have compiled from the whole forum:
**Added 04/23/2011**
Media Scanner bug
After leaving a 4G area phone will say that is connected to 4G but in reality there is no data and will not change to 3G/2G
When pressing home button or just navigating the home screens, screen flashes/flickers (Happened to me too)
Kinetic scrolling could be improved and the screen shakes when holding a position with your finger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1044179 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1046473
No System UI sounds nor a System Volume setting
Bleeding LCD mostly 2 upper corners
Overheating when playing games, tethering, HDMI mirroing.
WiFi not connecting with some routers. Seems to happen with Dual band routers
WiFi Profiles keeps getting disabled
Phone connected to UMTS but displaying 4G notification icon
4G turning on when WiFi is supposely "On"
4G disconnects too much and randomly switching between Edge/3G/4G in same area with 4G
4G is not as fast as other phones with same hardware http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1043716
Battery draining fast possibly due to this connection glitches
Freezes and Reboots
Connecting Headphones, or any Input will make Mic mute. When connected to car input, caller can the other person but person called can't hear caller.
Music turns off when opening camera
Phone screen brightness gets really dark when opening camera and auto-brightness is enabled
GPS works but sometimes slow to lock (Work around: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009529&highlight=gps Thanks Mitta from LG 2X forums for getting a working fix and to the many other work around offered)
Cannot adjust brightness or Screen timeout settings anywhere only with market apps
Email signature keeps changing to default even after modifying it or removing it.
Bluetooth stops working after using WiFi or Wireless tethering
Audio would randomly stop working after having it plugged in to a TV via HDMI cable.
Lock screen sound won't work
SD card not been able to be mount
I know there is a Poll with an "Issue Summary" but it is lacking a list of bugs and glitches in the Original Post.
Anyways, So this thread is really to compile a list of the known bugs and glitches to make it easier for the Devs to determine what they should be looking at to fix and for everyone to look for known issues and make the G2x Forums neater.
I strongly believe that this forums are visited by manufacturers and by phone companies, almost 99% sure about this. So let's make the issues known to get them working on hardware optimizations and software.
Here is the link to the Issue Summary Poll: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043500&page=10
I read all 10 pages and could say that the most common issues posted in that thread are reboots and freezes.
I will be updating this post as bugs and glitches comes out.
Please post your glitches if they are not mention in this thread. so that I can add those
Thanks for posting. Good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tenbeau said:
Thanks for posting. Good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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For a better G2x!
I have had the phone since release day on the 20th and have had none of these problems *knocks on wood* although I did come across something really weird. I had the phone in my pocket and I don't know if I accidentally turned it on or whatever but I took it out of my pocket at one point and it was kind of hot on the back. When I hit the power button I got nothing so I had to battery pull and then power it on and that worked. When it booted the battery was under 5% (battery was over 50% when I initially put it in my pocket which was only about an hour or so when I noticed it was off and felt hot). So I plugged it in charged it back to 100% and have been fine since that. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
Nice work on getting this thread started. Is there any way you can also put links to the threads that these issues are talked about? I would be great to be able to read the thread easily if you have that issue with your phone. May help the devs find things easier too!
I am having an issue with my screen. if I am on a web page that is not designed for mobile phones and I push my finger on the screen and don't move it all, the screen will shake endlessly until I remove my finger. It will also do it if I hold when flipping between home screens. Does anyone else have this issue?
Please forgive my ignorance if these aren’t really bugs or are simply repeats of the above, but I discovered two new items with both my wife and my G2x’s that I’d like some feedback on.
I had zero data in WI tonight where T-mobile shows as having data coverage. The phone display shows that I am connected to AT&T for voice with a GPRS signal. Additionally, neither navigation or Google maps give me my location when both of these features had worked when I had data.
I’d be interested in learning if these items are actually bugs of if they are simply related to the available networks and G2x hardware. If bugs, does it sound like they could be fixed through a software update?
Thanks in advance.
I have 2 more bugs to add. Both of them being pretty damn major.
1. Once you leave a 4G tower it will not downgrade to 3G or Edge for data but voice will still work. The 4G icon is still there but you will have no data connection. In order to get your data working again you have to manually disable then re-enable it through network settings.
2. After removing the device from my pocket, it is in car mode. (Had to freeze the app so it stopped)
One other minor bug people are experiencing is upon awaking the device it will flash your home screen before your lock screen.
I can't see myself keeping this device after the sensation comes out. In my opinion, the G2x is possibly the buggiest device I have ever had and was not ready for launch. I will keep exchanging my G2x until I get one that works 100%.
By the way, I had to freeze "My Account" app and "Wifi Calling" because they were accessing data constantly.
Kinetic scrolling could be improved and the screen shakes when holding a position with your finger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044179
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046473
Some are reporting slower data speeds than normal:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043716
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/04/20/review-t-mobile-g2x-optimus-2x/
No System UI sounds nor a System Volume setting.
OP Updated!
Xeyro said:
Please forgive my ignorance if these aren’t really bugs or are simply repeats of the above, but I discovered two new items with both my wife and my G2x’s that I’d like some feedback on.
I had zero data in WI tonight where T-mobile shows as having data coverage. The phone display shows that I am connected to AT&T for voice with a GPRS signal. Additionally, neither navigation or Google maps give me my location when both of these features had worked when I had data.
I’d be interested in learning if these items are actually bugs of if they are simply related to the available networks and G2x hardware. If bugs, does it sound like they could be fixed through a software update?
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for posting Xeyro, few questions for you,
Did you had a T-Mobile phone before and did you used in this area?
Was it 4G? If yes, where you able to connect fine to the network?
If your answers are yes then your G2x should be connecting just fine as well if not then there is a glitch/bug with the phone. Try rebooting to see if that helps.
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I had zero data in WI tonight where T-mobile shows as having data coverage.
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Figured it out; user error. Apparently there's a check-box in the wireless and network settings to allow data roaming. Apparently this box is unchecked by default, and checking the box has restored data connection to the phone.
Thanks for the response Moshe.
Looks like we were posting at about the same time, but I figured out my error. The phones are set by default to not allow data roaming, and you have to manually make the change in the settings. Everything seems to be working as expected at this point.
Xeyro said:
Figured it out; user error. Apparently there's a check-box in the wireless and network settings to allow data roaming. Apparently this box is unchecked by default, and checking the box has restored data connection to the phone.
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If I understood your problem correctly, that is no fix at all. Data roaming is turned off by default because data roaming charges are massive. The reason it started 'working' is because you allowed the phone to roam data over the AT&T network instead of connecting to tmobile towers. Watch out because your next bill is going to be a whopper.
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If I understood your problem correctly, that is no fix at all. Data roaming is turned off by default because data roaming charges are massive. The reason it started 'working' is because you allowed the phone to roam data over the AT&T network instead of connecting to tmobile towers. Watch out because your next bill is going to be a whopper.
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Thanks for the heads up dasbin. I decided to give T-Mobile a call to make sure I wasn't being charged an arm and a leg and this is what I learned.
The T-mobile coverage in this area is actually provided through 3rd party networks, so while the maps show data coverage, it may not be T-mobile directly providing the data. Therefore, the option to roam data needs to be turned on. T-mobile only charges for international data roaming, so there are no extra fees as this is how the network is designed to work.
I think then the "bug" isn't as much of a bug as an understanding that the phone is not configured by default to allow non T-mobile data networks. I wonder how often this has caused some of the dropping of data that others have experienced?
I only have the bleeding issue and reboot issues. If I exchange, it could be a lot worse.. decisions decisions..
You should include the Media Scanner bug.
If I put any substantial amount of media (more than 3mp3s) on my sd card, media scanner glitches and never finishes scanning, making camera, music, video, gallery, etc unusable.
I've seen at least one other poster with this issue.
ericc191 said:
I only have the bleeding issue and reboot issues. If I exchange, it could be a lot worse.. decisions decisions..
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Yea, same here, and when I have some free time I want to look at the kernal source, I'm thinking the frezzing/rebooting is caused by it, its acting the same as my mt4g did using custom kernals until those were fixed, so I think once we can get some custom kernals out we'll be good to go on that issue.
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OP Updated with the Media Scanner bug and some other ones
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If I understood your problem correctly, that is no fix at all. Data roaming is turned off by default because data roaming charges are massive. The reason it started 'working' is because you allowed the phone to roam data over the AT&T network instead of connecting to tmobile towers. Watch out because your next bill is going to be a whopper.
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T-Mobile only charges for international roaming.
Hello everyone, first off introductions out of the way.
Former iPhone 2g, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, Droid 1, Nexus one, iPhone 4, Atrix 4G owner.
Now i've got the G2x.
Let me first get the scenario out of the way before I go on my Epic rant, in case those of you don't want to read my rant.
Went to bed last night, with Wifi TURNED ON, plugged into the charger.
Woke up this morning woke up the phone, looked at the top and the wifi icon was missing and 4G icon was missing just bars and that's it.
I turned off Wifi with the Widget, then turned it back on and all of a sudden a bunch of stuff POPPED as the Wifi icon came back.
I had 2 missed phone calls, 3 text messages and tons of Emails both IMAP and Gmail waiting for me.
So wait a second..I didn't even have a data connection???
Actually you know what.. as i've been writing this, i don't even feel like going on a rant.. it's just not worth wasting my breath.
So tell me people, what type of Epic fix and tweaks Do i have to make to my phone in order to be able to fix this BASIC function not working properly.
What is this i'm hearing about a Wifi sleep policy? and Why can't I have a data connection if things go "sour" with the software not working properly.?
Go to settings, wireless and network settings> wifi settings, hit menu> advanced> turn wifi sleep policy to never. It seems u may have the policy so wifi disables when the screen is off. Also make sure u have mobile data enabled
My phone still does odd things now and then.
But my wife's has data issues. We will be replacing hers.
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xdmds said:
Go to settings, wireless and network settings> wifi settings, hit menu> advanced> turn wifi sleep policy to never. It seems u may have the policy so wifi disables when the screen is off. Also make sure u have mobile data enabled
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How do you make it so "Mobile Data" is enabled? where is that setting at.
Go to settings > wireless and network settings > mobile networks > check the data enabled box.
It's already checked for me.
That still doesn't explain why the data is turning off when my Wifi goes haywire.
does this have something to do with the Wifi calling app? I have that Disabled as well, but that still doesn't mean there's a bug out there somewhere that's still disabling my data.
A rant over this seems like overkill if this is the only example of this for you. Sometimes stuff like this happens and the data connection may drop out. Has it happened again? If have not had any connection issues at all on my G2x so it is not a phone problem. Could be any number of setting or network issues, or just a one time glitch.
xdmds said:
Go to settings, wireless and network settings> wifi settings, hit menu> advanced> turn wifi sleep policy to never. It seems u may have the policy so wifi disables when the screen is off. Also make sure u have mobile data enabled
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Thanks! I had no idea that such a setting existed... I get almost no signal in my apartment, and am heavily dependent on Wi-Fi, so I was losing all data every night until I changed this.
The OP is right - if the phone can't do the basics it's pretty much useless no matter how fast the processor is. In his situation, when Wi-Fi dropped, the phone should have failed over to 2/3/4G. To have a slew of calls, e-mails, and texts not make it through means the phone was off the network entirely.
We're all big boys and girls and know that no electronic device is perfect. The G2X is just plain erratic. The problems are intermittent, not consistently repeatable, and can screw up using the phone for basic communication in the process.
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are a mess - especially the way they interact with the 2/3/4G and the different apps loaded and pre-loaded on the phone.
Here's my list of issues:
1) Wi-Fi loses signal even though the task bar indicator shows full strength.
2) Apps turn on 2/3/4G even when Wi-Fi is enabled.
3) Wi-Fi Calling enables itself randomly shutting down all other data. If item 1 occurs the outcome is what happened to the OP - the phone's off the network.
4) The task indicator's always showing 4G whether it's connected at 4G or not and the signal strength shown isn't accurate - sometimes it's optimistic sometimes it's pessimistic.
5) The Bluetooth profile appears and disappears randomly and doesn't show at all if Bluetooth is turned off.
6) Wi-Fi won't connect to anything less than a strong signal but will hold the connection if it weakens. If you try to connect to a weak signal it disables the profile of the device it's trying to connect to.
If you look at the post count of the people that are having connectivity issues they're fairly senior members and have owned a lot of high-end phones. I've played around with two demo units at two different T-Mobile stores and most of what I've detailed above is repeatable. If you aren't a heavy Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or outside connectivity user and/or don't depend on your phone's reliability for business some or all of this may not matter to you or you may not experience it. But, choose to accept it or not, this phone (and not my particular unit) has some serious stability problems.
I like the phone and I'm sure that because of the severity and quantity of the problems that there will be an update soon. That's the reason I'm keeping it. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that T-Mobile needed something newsworthy to show they're still viable as a stand-alone entity after the AT&T acquisition was announced. They rushed this phone to market to generate buzz and it shows.
I've had no issues with this device but my post count is pretty low
jlevy73 said:
I've had no issues with this device but my post count is pretty low
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Out of curiosity, how do you use your phone? Are you using Exchange push? Wi-Fi calling to make and receive calls from foreign counties? Responding to Twitter and Facebook posts on behalf of a 10K person company? Connecting to a Cisco Bluetooth conferencing speaker system to hold multi-party conference calls? Do you average 8GB of data (not songs and movies) a month? Is your average monthly bill over $300?
I don't mean to be *****y, but after playing with three random samples of this phone I find it hard to believe that there could possibly be a perfect specimen out there as the majority of this is caused by software and we're all using the exact same ROM.
Your radio must have failed completely since voice calls and SMS don't require a data connection to Tx or Rx. I seem to have no problem connecting to weak WiFi signals. I never leave WiFi enabled unless I'm browsing or downloading so I can't speak on the long-term effects of staying connected to an AP for any length of time.
These seem like software issues to me so I wouldn't worry about it too much. There will be an official update soon and probably a good amount of roms to come. For now, I suggest toggling WiFi on only while actively using data.
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Out of curiosity, how do you use your phone? Are you using Exchange push? Wi-Fi calling to make and receive calls from foreign counties? Responding to Twitter and Facebook posts on behalf of a 10K person company? Connecting to a Cisco Bluetooth conferencing speaker system to hold multi-party conference calls? Do you average 8GB of data (not songs and movies) a month? Is your average monthly bill over $300?
I don't mean to be *****y, but after playing with three random samples of this phone I find it hard to believe that there could possibly be a perfect specimen out there as the majority of this is caused by software and we're all using the exact same ROM.
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If you need all this from a phone, you should not be an early adopter.
BarryH_GEG said:
Out of curiosity, how do you use your phone? Are you using Exchange push? Wi-Fi calling to make and receive calls from foreign counties? Responding to Twitter and Facebook posts on behalf of a 10K person company? Connecting to a Cisco Bluetooth conferencing speaker system to hold multi-party conference calls? Do you average 8GB of data (not songs and movies) a month? Is your average monthly bill over $300?
I don't mean to be *****y, but after playing with three random samples of this phone I find it hard to believe that there could possibly be a perfect specimen out there as the majority of this is caused by software and we're all using the exact same ROM.
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I'm a business owner so I push my device pretty hard. Exchange push, plus multiple other push accounts through K-9. Wifi calling placed and received from China, although I prefer normal network for that. I definitely pushing at least 5gb/month and my monthly bill is atrocious.
Out of curiosity, how do you use your phone? Are you using Exchange push? Wi-Fi calling to make and receive calls from foreign counties? Responding to Twitter and Facebook posts on behalf of a 10K person company? Connecting to a Cisco Bluetooth conferencing speaker system to hold multi-party conference calls? Do you average 8GB of data (not songs and movies) a month? Is your average monthly bill over $300?
I don't mean to be *****y, but after playing with three random samples of this phone I find it hard to believe that there could possibly be a perfect specimen out there as the majority of this is caused by software and we're all using the exact same ROM.
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I don't know why you'd be using a just-released phone with such a laundry-list of business requirements, either.
Yea the lovely iphone couldn't do MMS or exchange for 3 years. They still don't have a native Facebook app.
Anyway, I replied to this thread before but it was lost to the server being funny.
But what happened is quite logical and working properly. WiFi calling and WiFi Sleep policy are both set a default setting which saves the most battery. Using them both in tandem would require set and testing, which obviously wasn't done.
So really you can not blame the phone for the WiFi shutting down after X period of inactivity and WiFi Calling going stale.
I average about 6-7mb a month of pure data (I don't download anything on my phone except a rare occasion) in addition to what I use on WiFi. It is working great for me. Sure I'm not tethering a Cisco Bluetooth Speaker, but whatever.
I've used WiFi Calling on my Nexus One and it seems much more stable then I'm used to. WiFi calling is not a cellular repeater and depending on traffic may impede performance.
I do suspect there are odd/missing bluetooth profiles though. But lucky for us the kernel was already released so it will get fixed by the great developers here if not by Tmobile/LG themselves.
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I don't know why you'd be using a just-released phone with such a laundry-list of business requirements, either.
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Adequately tested, there should be no problem. The G2X is considered an "Enterprise Class" device which means it's recommended for National and Multi-National accounts. I had one of the first HD2's and G2's and didn't use them any differently and had no problems with core functionality. There's a big difference between quirky behavior and not being able to function as a phone which was the complaint posted by the OP.
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I've used WiFi Calling on my Nexus One and it seems much more stable then I'm used to. WiFi calling is not a cellular repeater and depending on traffic may impede performance.
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Wi-Fi Calling is terrific and a feature that sets T-Mobile apart. I used it heavily on my G2 and it was pretty reliable. There is no setting to make it default to "on" yet out of the box it enabled itself and it's randomly enabled itself a couple of times when the phone's been up for hours. It hard-locks the 2/3/4G data signal to off so if the phone's drops Wi-Fi it's basically off the network. The app's supposed to revert to 2/3/4G in the absence of a Wi-Fi signal when you have the setting checked as "Wi-Fi Preferred" which it only does randomly.
So, if in the middle of the night, Wi-Fi Calling enabled itself on the OP's phone and then lost the Wi-Fi signal it was basically off the network. I've seen Wi-Fi Calling enable itself on my phone and the two in the store. I'm assuming it's the same version of the app that's on the G2 so, again, there's something flaky with LG's implementation of Wi-Fi, the 2/3/4G radio, or both.
I'm only belaboring this because of people saying "it's your phone" or "it's got to be hardware." This phone has issues with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth that need to be corrected.
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I've had no issues with this device but my post count is pretty low
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same thing here
Hardcore business users need a blackberry... Especially if they value their privacy, trade secrets, or if they handle government related information.
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My apologies if this has been posted elsewhere. I found a loosely related thread on google's support forum, but nothing here.
Bought a Nexus 5 and I've been trying out Straight Talk ATT and I've been noticing these problems, most likely all related:
I've been getting notification delays for push data services. Namely, my work email(exchange) and gmail. Sometimes the notification won't even come through. I'm up to a half hour on my last one, still waiting on it. SMS works just fine. Haven't tested MMS, particularly because I don't get many of those. The data connections does work though. I can manually load pages just fine, if a bit slow at first like the ping is astronomical. Almost makes me think it's establishing a connection each time.
When I check the color of the wifi or cellular connection icon, it's frequently orange. Most of the time it will quickly resolve itself to white in the few seconds it takes to check it. From what I understand, orange means it's having trouble talking to google services? This shouldn't affect exchange notifications.
I'm getting poorer connections quality than I expected. I live in Ithaca and while my home has poor Verizon connection(so I expected similar from ATT), I've barely found any place at work or the mall that can hold ANY LTE signal or a decent HSPA signal. HSPA speed tests give me under 0.5mbps up/down, while the only LTE test I've been able to run gave me 2.5/1 up/down.
The aforementioned thread on google's forums mentioned flashing 4.4.0's radio apk, has anyone else tried this?
Which APN setting affects the data part of the connection? Is it just the APN type?
Bump.
I'm starting to wonder if my problem is exacerbated by my current postpaid VZW phone getting data notifications much quicker. I'm suspecting that Straight Talk has a lower priority on ATT towers, thus why my data notifications take up to minutes sometimes. Anyone know of a way to confirm this?
Always On Push Notifications android app
I am not sure if anyone is following this thread anymore, but I switched to StraightTalk about a month ago, and have been experiencing huge delays in my google voice notifications as well (among other things). I've tried several different apps to get this resolved, but none have worked for me... so I decided to write my own. It was published to the google play store this morning (Android 2.3+ currently). If anyone sees this, please try it out, and let me know what you think.
It's called "Always On Push Notifications". I can't post a link right now because this is my first post on these forums though.
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I am not sure if anyone is following this thread anymore, but I switched to StraightTalk about a month ago, and have been experiencing huge delays in my google voice notifications as well (among other things). I've tried several different apps to get this resolved, but none have worked for me... so I decided to write my own. It was published to the google play store this morning (Android 2.3+ currently). If anyone sees this, please try it out, and let me know what you think.
It's called "Always On Push Notifications". I can't post a link right now because this is my first post on these forums though.
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What fixed it? I find I have to archive my old messages/call logs for it to not lag.
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What fixed it? I find I have to archive my old messages/call logs for it to not lag.
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I am not sure what you mean, but I was noticing similar issues with my Nexus 5 on ST using ATT towers. While on LTE at the office, my connection was always great, but if I wasn't actively using my phone, my cell signal would go orange, and all of my notifications were significantly delayed. Furthermore, even trying to browse the internet with an orange signal would just idle and sometimes would not complete at all.
The app I wrote attempts to prevent this by simply keeping your connection active. It does this by manually sending out a heartbeat using the Google Cloud Messaging service approximately every interval that you define in the app. This helps keep your notifications flowing. On top of that, the application will also make a very small data request (~60 bytes), to help prevent the APN from timing out your connection.
I have found that those two things are enough to fix the issues I have had with StraightTalk.
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I am not sure what you mean, but I was noticing similar issues with my Nexus 5 on ST using ATT towers. While on LTE at the office, my connection was always great, but if I wasn't actively using my phone, my cell signal would go orange, and all of my notifications were significantly delayed. Furthermore, even trying to browse the internet with an orange signal would just idle and sometimes would not complete at all.
The app I wrote attempts to prevent this by simply keeping your connection active. It does this by manually sending out a heartbeat using the Google Cloud Messaging service approximately every interval that you define in the app. This helps keep your notifications flowing. On top of that, the application will also make a very small data request (~60 bytes), to help prevent the APN from timing out your connection.
I have found that those two things are enough to fix the issues I have had with StraightTalk.
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That answered it. It must be a StraightTalk thing. Weird.
New observation on this problem:
- GMail notifications not arriving
- When I check I see that the WiFi icon is orange
- Phone is still connected to the internet, I can browse, but icon remains orange and no notifications arrive
- Only when I disconnect/reconnect Wifi does it recover
I also discovered that the WiFi icon actually turns orange at the moment that Google tries to send me a notification. It can be fine for hours before that.
It turned out that this only happens when I have the cellular radio turned off, by turning on Airplane Mode and then turning WiFi back on. With the cellular radio on and connected to the network, even with Mobile Data turned off, everything is fine with WiFi.
I think it's an authentication bug with Google Services. Somewhere in the message notification sequence it tries to either authenticate your phone or perhaps locate it via the cellular network, and if it fails then the connection to Google Services is flagged as faulty. The failure could be caused by having the cellular radio off, or perhaps by being in a bad reception area.
My new M8 frequently has trouble loading web pages and just hangs up. I click on a forum or a page or a message link and I get no load or a partial page load and then the phone just hangs. The phone works just fine most of the time with fast page loads, and then it goes through periods of having this problem - sometimes minutes, and sometimes much longer (hours). It happens with both Chrome and Opera. I have used this phone next to a Samsung Galaxy S4 and an Apple IPhone5. Both occasionally take a handful of seconds to load web pages, but neither takes 30 seconds or more or just fails to load.
This used to happen to my with my HTC Thunderbolt and was the primary reason I upgraded to the S4 because the Thunderbolt became unusable and I was constantly pulling the battery out to reset. I just assumed the problem with the Thunderbolt was a function of the Thunderbolt being a first generation LTE phone and insufficient network capacity on the part of Verzion. Now that it is happening with my M8 but not with other phones at the same time and place, it appears that something is wrong with how HTC phones talk to the Verizon network. As I recall, this was a known problem with the Thunderbolt.
I notice it mostly at work, where I use the web the most, and sometimes at home. At work, there are a lot of offices nearby and thus a lot of cell traffic. At home, my phone sometimes switches between 4G and 3G. Thus, both areas are subject to high traffic or weak signals. I haven't used the phone elsewhere enough to know if it happens is "normal" traffic areas.
What it looks like to me is that when I am in places where there is heavy traffic or a weaker signal, the HTC doesn't handle communication with the cell towers properly. It is like the phone either can't find the network or, more likely, it finds the network and then loses communication and traffic is juggled. Maybe the signal put out by the HTC is not strong enough or there is something wrong with its receiving circuitry???
Today, Opera displayed the following error message:
Error - Your request failed
Your browser failed to complete sending the request
IP Address [########s]
Proxy IP [#############s]
Proxy ID
Server IP
Error Code 4
Error Name Error processing request (Code 4)
Error description The request could not be fully read
I have bluetooth, wifi, airplane mode, and location off, and only a couple of apps.
I really like this phone (the M8). However, I lived through this problem for 2 years with the Thunderbolt and then did not have the problem for the past year on the S4, and I am not about to deal with it again. I am finding it hard not to conclude that I just need to return the phone.
I thought I would ask whether anyone has experienced this problem or has any idea about whether it is fixable as opposed to just a fundamental problem with HTC phones.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Might be a random app stealing all your bandwidth. Check your data usage in settings. If you can't see anything out of the ordinary, try Onavo Count or something that analyzes your data activity.
Thanks, but Chrome and Opera are the largest users of data (along with Google Play Store, which I imagine is due to the couple of apps I downloaded). There is no other significant user of data.
Have had same issue and at times playstore will do the same. Ive wiped davik and seem to fix problem but I was also thinking it was a connection problem coming from verizon(So. Cal). All is well now with great download(40mb) and upload(19mb) speeds.
I installed Onavo Count this morning and so far it isn't showing any apps using unusual amounts of data. Opera, Chrome and Android OS are the primary users of data.
I was in the Verizon Center today and the M8 worked flawlessly. Not surprising as I expect that Verizon supplies a good, strong signal there (it generally showed 3-4 bars rather than 5).
I installed Onavo Count this morning and so far it isn't showing any apps using unusual amounts of data. Opera, Chrome and Android OS are the primary users of data.
OK, so I know M7 isn't the latest CM build, but it's the latest one without issues with GPS, so that's what I'm on since I use GPS a lot.
So last week I replaced my home router. This of course means reconfiguring all the wifi devices around the house, including my wifi thermostat. The unique thing about the thermostat is that to configure it, you connect a laptop/phone/tablet to the thermostat's ad-hoc wifi network, tell it which infrastructure ssid to connect to, verify a pin from the thermostat's screen (so nobody can hijack your t-stat from outside the house), and that's it.
thing is, when you use Cyanogenmod (at least on the relay) to connect to an adhoc network, it breaks wifi. what happens is you can't connect to any other wifi networks, and can't even scan to see available networks till you reboot. sometimes it doesn't work even after a reboot. strangely, the tethering/hotspot still works fine. you just can't connect the phone to a hotspot whether it's at home or work or anywhere.
i'd been having other issues and general slowness with the phone, so i decided to backup a few apps with TiBu and do a factory reset. that worked... till i tried connecting to the thermostat again, and it broke wifi completely this time.
solution? go to /data/misc/wifi/ and rename wpa_supplicant.conf to wpa_supplicant.conf.old (or whatever, as long as it's a different name) and reboot. the system will automatically create a new conf file. boom - wifi fixed.
obviously this requires root, but that's not an issue in CM. I doubt it matters, but i used ES file explorer since it's got a good root filesystem browser and mounting / or system as RW is a simple matter of a checkbox in the settings.
when i compared the newly created wpa_supplicant.conf with the one i'd renamed (.old) the only real difference i could see was the saved networks at the bottom. so you might be able to get away with simply deleting the offending network={ blah blah } section instead of completely renaming the conf file. the advantage here would be if you have a bunch of saved networks that you don't want to get rid of, it will keep those saved networks. the conf file is a plaintext file so it's easy enough to understand what you're looking at, and modify appropriately.
MODS: I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I figured since it probably only applies to CM, I should post it in the dev forum rather than the general one. If it needs to be moved, I don't be offended.
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OK, so I know M7 isn't the latest CM build, but it's the latest one without issues with GPS, so that's what I'm on since I use GPS a lot.
So last week I replaced my home router. This of course means reconfiguring all the wifi devices around the house, including my wifi thermostat. The unique thing about the thermostat is that to configure it, you connect a laptop/phone/tablet to the thermostat's ad-hoc wifi network, tell it which infrastructure ssid to connect to, verify a pin from the thermostat's screen (so nobody can hijack your t-stat from outside the house), and that's it.
thing is, when you use Cyanogenmod (at least on the relay) to connect to an adhoc network, it breaks wifi. what happens is you can't connect to any other wifi networks, and can't even scan to see available networks till you reboot. sometimes it doesn't work even after a reboot. strangely, the tethering/hotspot still works fine. you just can't connect the phone to a hotspot whether it's at home or work or anywhere.
i'd been having other issues and general slowness with the phone, so i decided to backup a few apps with TiBu and do a factory reset. that worked... till i tried connecting to the thermostat again, and it broke wifi completely this time.
solution? go to /data/misc/wifi/ and rename wpa_supplicant.conf to wpa_supplicant.conf.old (or whatever, as long as it's a different name) and reboot. the system will automatically create a new conf file. boom - wifi fixed.
obviously this requires root, but that's not an issue in CM. I doubt it matters, but i used ES file explorer since it's got a good root filesystem browser and mounting / or system as RW is a simple matter of a checkbox in the settings.
when i compared the newly created wpa_supplicant.conf with the one i'd renamed (.old) the only real difference i could see was the saved networks at the bottom. so you might be able to get away with simply deleting the offending network={ blah blah } section instead of completely renaming the conf file. the advantage here would be if you have a bunch of saved networks that you don't want to get rid of, it will keep those saved networks. the conf file is a plaintext file so it's easy enough to understand what you're looking at, and modify appropriately.
MODS: I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I figured since it probably only applies to CM, I should post it in the dev forum rather than the general one. If it needs to be moved, I don't be offended.
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It does belong in q&a...but my lollipop validus has working gps
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It does belong in q&a...but my lollipop validus has working gps
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As does FatToad. However, I do know that the privacy bit in the GPS can be flipped with the drivers we're using in FT. There's an old thread with a post from nard about how to fix that.
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As does FatToad. However, I do know that the privacy bit in the GPS can be flipped with the drivers we're using in FT. There's an old thread with a post from nard about how to fix that.
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Do you understand more about this "privacy bit", what call in the API flips it, or can give me any other pointers about it? The poster previous to you indicates that GPS works with M7. I thought I had it working with M8, but can't really guarantee that, any more. The post from nard was quite an onerous process, including what looked like reflashing the baseband.
It seems to me that if we really understood this problem, the fix would be quite simple, and could be done by a root-access app. I've done more digging, and see that it seems to be common to many models of Samsung Galaxy phones, and some of the fixes involve doing potentially horrible things to the NVRAM. (like clearing it completely - what could possibly go wrong?)
It seems that the GPS is done in the baseband processor, along with the other radio stuff, but so far I haven't been able to find it. The transceiver chip is just a transceiver, no baseband processor. It looks like the baseband processor might be on the Snapdragon main processor chip, though they don't enumerate it well. In addition they mention a "gpsOne engine" without describing exactly what it is.
I'm still relatively ignorant about Android, a year after getting one. (not enough time) I'm better versed on hardware, but this problem seems to be in the cracks between.
Come to think of it, a simple question... Is there documentation on the communications between Android and the baseband processor?
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OK, so I know M7 isn't the latest CM build, but it's the latest one without issues with GPS, so that's what I'm on since I use GPS a lot.
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I just took my wife's phone outside and tested it. GPS works on M8 from last summer, as does wifi. AFAIK the only thing that doesn't work on M8 is the video camera. (Stills on the camera work.)
This was an older phone than mine, purchased after mine. With mine I didn't need the radio or bootloader updates, my wife's did. I bought the phone for her, used it briefly with my PureTalkUSA SIM card to make sure it was really unlocked. Then I put CM11 on it.
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I just took my wife's phone outside and tested it. GPS works on M8 from last summer, as does wifi. AFAIK the only thing that doesn't work on M8 is the video camera. (Stills on the camera work.)
This was an older phone than mine, purchased after mine. With mine I didn't need the radio or bootloader updates, my wife's did. I bought the phone for her, used it briefly with my PureTalkUSA SIM card to make sure it was really unlocked. Then I put CM11 on it.
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no idea how old mine actually is; i bought it "like new" from a tmobile reseller here in town and i actually use tmobile for service.
right now i'm on fattoad and once i stepped down my paranoia (i turned on privacy guard for everything including all system apps. hint: don't do that ) it seems good so far. nova launcher has an issue with flickering or disappearing icons, and everything is huge (i need to adjust the dpi) but so far no issues with gps or wifi (though i havent needed to connect to an adhoc network yet).
Do be careful with Privacy Guard. I didn't mention, but although Privacy Guard out of the box tends to make it so that most system apps are unable to be tuned, TeamApexQ likes the option of being able to tune everything in that regard, so we removed the safeguard. (For example, when PG was first ported to CM12, you could tune the settings of the 'Settings' app. Then at our next internal testing build, it was suddenly coming up empty, because CM made a change to exclude tuning for it. We restored full capability because we liked it. But that does mean you can more easily 'shoot yourself in the foot'.
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Do be careful with Privacy Guard. I didn't mention, but although Privacy Guard out of the box tends to make it so that most system apps are unable to be tuned, TeamApexQ likes the option of being able to tune everything in that regard, so we removed the safeguard. (For example, when PG was first ported to CM12, you could tune the settings of the 'Settings' app. Then at our next internal testing build, it was suddenly coming up empty, because CM made a change to exclude tuning for it. We restored full capability because we liked it. But that does mean you can more easily 'shoot yourself in the foot'.
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I've recently begun to wonder if Privacy Guard might be partially responsible for reduced battery life. I'm under the impression that it lies to apps, providing false information when they have insufficient authority for the real information. Some of those permissions in Privacy Guard are to turn radios on and off. If an app thinks it's turned a radio on, and is trying to communicate based on faked (Really, it's going to look like a failure, at this point.) returns, it may spend more time continuing to try instead of just staying asleep. My battery life comes an goes, but I've noticed that on a "bad day" there are quite a few wakeups in the middle of nowhen, when the phone was sitting there in airplane mode with all radios off.
Of course I may be all wet on this - radio control may be one area where it can say, "You're in Airplane Mode, no program can turn the radio on."
good theory, and like you said, it depends on the app and how pg implements each block.
personally i'm having great battery life in L. i have a 5000mah battery, but usually by this point in the day i'm at about 60%. right now i'm still at 83%. i like how it projects your estimated remaining battery time. first time i looked at the battery chart, i lol'd - it was projecting 4.5 days before it died. i can probably get 2 no sweat even with regular usage, but i'd have to turn off sync and really cut back to make it 4 days.
I've had very good results with some simple rules with Privacy Guard. Generally the only thing I've turned off is the ability for Google Play Services and the Google App (Google Now) to wake up my device and to keep it awake. With those turned off, my battery life has gotten to be pretty damned nice... Though it makes Google Play Services FC once maybe every 24 hours. It restarts just fine, no harm no foul.
My battery life seems to be "bimodal". It either barely makes it 24 hours - basically needs recharging every night, or it lasts on the order of three or four days on a charge.
It seems to be somehow wifi-related, if I were guessing, and in an odd way. If wifi is largely off, but occasionally on, the battery life seems shorter. After wifi has been left off for "a while" (quantity not yet determined) it seems to go into long-battery-life mode. If I keep wifi largely on, and occasionally off (basically between known/trusted wifi places) the battery life comes out somewhere in between, consistent with wifi itself taking some power.
It's been really tough to detect any sort of pattern, but this is the best I've been able to come up with so far. I haven't done rigorous testing, or at least attempts at rigor so far have yielded inconsistent results. I've looked at what the Settings->Battery has available for power diagnostics, and one thing I noted was a lot of spurious wakeups when all radios were turned off. That's what led me to tentatively finger Privacy Guard.
I just saw the setting to show "built-in" apps on PG. I see two different entries for google.services and google.services.framework. The former has scads of wakeups - thanks for the tip. The latter has many, but a much smaller number. Did you block wakeups for both? I presume "built-in" are also "system" that others have said shouldn't be bulk-denied in PG. Are there guidelines anywhere about which are OK, which are useful, etc? (Like this case, and perhaps battery life.)
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My battery life seems to be "bimodal". It either barely makes it 24 hours - basically needs recharging every night, or it lasts on the order of three or four days on a charge.
It seems to be somehow wifi-related, if I were guessing, and in an odd way. If wifi is largely off, but occasionally on, the battery life seems shorter. After wifi has been left off for "a while" (quantity not yet determined) it seems to go into long-battery-life mode. If I keep wifi largely on, and occasionally off (basically between known/trusted wifi places) the battery life comes out somewhere in between, consistent with wifi itself taking some power.
It's been really tough to detect any sort of pattern, but this is the best I've been able to come up with so far. I haven't done rigorous testing, or at least attempts at rigor so far have yielded inconsistent results. I've looked at what the Settings->Battery has available for power diagnostics, and one thing I noted was a lot of spurious wakeups when all radios were turned off. That's what led me to tentatively finger Privacy Guard.
I just saw the setting to show "built-in" apps on PG. I see two different entries for google.services and google.services.framework. The former has scads of wakeups - thanks for the tip. The latter has many, but a much smaller number. Did you block wakeups for both? I presume "built-in" are also "system" that others have said shouldn't be bulk-denied in PG. Are there guidelines anywhere about which are OK, which are useful, etc? (Like this case, and perhaps battery life.)
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It's difficult to give tips for this, because everyones' usage is different. Get 'WakeLock Detector' and keep an eye on that when your power drain seems more intense. Disable things that make sense to disable based on that.
I know this isn't really the topic, but just because you get a new router doesn't mean you have to reconfigure everything. Why couldn't you just configure the new router with the SSID and password from the old one?
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I know this isn't really the topic, but just because you get a new router doesn't mean you have to reconfigure everything. Why couldn't you just configure the new router with the SSID and password from the old one?
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believe me, i tried that. it's stupidly tedious to enter a long keyphrase via the remote control on our tivos and only slightly less tedious on the roku (its remote is much more responsive). laptops and phones aren't as bad since they have keyboards. apparently the devices are smart enough to notice a different MAC behind the BSSID. which if you think about it, is actually a GOOD thing in terms of security, since it makes spoofing a little more difficult. granted, you'd also have to know the wpa key to successfully spoof, but it's a simple check to implement for security's sake, and i'm glad they did.
by the way, do you like fjords?
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It's difficult to give tips for this, because everyones' usage is different. Get 'WakeLock Detector' and keep an eye on that when your power drain seems more intense. Disable things that make sense to disable based on that.
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"Wakelock Detector" has certainly been enlightening. "Google Fit", which makes sense, once you think about it. But the other aspect that was even more important, I just happened to see when one of the other forums popped up on some sort of search result or other.
You have to boot your Android device on battery. If the kernel starts up on charger, it never gets into the deepest power-saving states. When I first started using Wakelock Detector, my phone showed up as being awake something like 97% of the time. Google Fit was the biggest user, but not that big. After seeing that advice I've been careful to boot on battery, and now most of the time is spent asleep. Google Fit still uses wakes as much, but when it's not, the phone is really sleeping. My normal battery life has moved out to two or three days, sometimes into a fourth. As long as I consider Google Fit worth having around, this battery life is good enough for me - there is always a decent window to recharge.
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You have to boot your Android device on battery. If the kernel starts up on charger, it never gets into the deepest power-saving states.
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So much for that theory. A day or two back, after good battery life since this post, I noticed it draining faster. Today I looked, and sure enough, it's not going into deep sleep. I tried rebooting with all four states of wifi and cell service, and nothing has gotten deep sleep back. I think I'm going to try charging tonight, booting while charging, then rebooting after disconnecting. It would be good to have an exact and repeatable set of circumstances that cause both good and bad battery life.