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Kaiser ROM comparisons

I noticed that this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437576) was closed recently and to be honest I didn't think it was entirely fair.
Yes, it's true that we should all read the guidance, and yes, it's also true that individual preferences will determine which might be the 'best' ROM.
However, there are 2 reasons why I think that closing the thread was unfair.
First of all, there is too much information, and a lot of it is simply too technical. I want to update my 6.0 ROM because I am using one of sleuth's old ROMs from January. I'm not sure whether to go for a 6.0 or 6.1 ROM. I haven't seen any post which summarises what the strengths and weaknesses are. My understanding is that the benefits of improved usability and battery life are offset by greater instability and slower response, one of the big drawbacks of WM6. So for me, I want usbility, stability, speed, speed and more speed. I don't want to wait a while after pressing a button and I don't want to have to use the stylus. What is the point of having all this cool hardware if it's painfully slow and awkward to use?
For me this is more important than free RAM, video dialling and YouTube. I have no idea which are the fastest ROMs, or whether a WM6.1 ROM can be as fast as a WM6.0 ROM. Also, how bad is the instability? Does this mean crashes every day, couple of days, every week?
There is a lot of mention of Hyperdragon and Manila but I have no idea what this is. Actually I think that Manila is some form of accelerated 2d driver. But what is 'a 2d driver' and how does it differ from 'a 3d driver'?
You can get lots of detailed technical information, but the more basic issues don't seem to be documented. There are so many ROMs, how is a newbie supposed to choose? Flashing the phone and reinstalling/reconfiguring everything is not an instant process and it can take quite a while to get your phone configured just right. Even if you read all the detail, I suspect that newbies will still be somewhat in the dark. Most of us don't have time to try out 3 or 4 ROMs before we settle on the right one.
Finally, the original poster specified (some of) his particular preferences or selection criteria if you like. It should have been possible for people to make recommendations based on this. If some think the question is a bit lame, they will say so. More enlightened users might post links to some information that is genuinely useful, instead of posting something like. "Search the forum, the information is there". Yup, sure, but the phone will probably be obsolete before you find it. Leaving the thread open will allow the debate.
I understand how you might not want lots of posts about the same thing, but if that is the case, then it indicates that the information is not as accessible as it could be. I think it would be useful if for each ROM posted, the chefs could summarise the main points and benefits. For example is the OS 6.0 or 6.1, how fast it is compared the standard. Is there a benchmarking tool? What are the unique benefits? What are the known issues? Some ROMs posted have really excellent documentation, some not, but it doesn't give me any basis for comparison in relation to the things that are important to me - and others I suspect.
This kind of debate is interesting and relevant to me and I suspect some other too.
So if anyone would care to comment on their views on ROM choices, particularly in relation to speed and stability, I would be really grateful.

bigstick said:
This kind of debate is interesting and relevant to me and I suspect some other too.
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That would be me.
So if anyone would care to comment on their views on ROM choices, particularly in relation to speed and stability, I would be really grateful.
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... And Battery life please

im not trying to come down on you but i think your missing the whole point of this site. lets go with battery life for a second. if you had read (and this isnt that technical) the battery does have some to do with the rom but more to do with the radio and what you use the phone for. speed is also dependent on what programs your running. the problem is like has been stated before this site is about not being a spoon fed prossess and trying each rom yourself. if you want to compare them the do just that..let us know what you think bu post in the correct rom. not realy all that difficult

Checkout Windows Mobile 6.0 vs Windows Mobile 6.1 thread
bigstick said:
So if anyone would care to comment on their views on ROM choices, particularly in relation to speed and stability, I would be really grateful.
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I've already commented on my ROM choice over at the Windows Mobile 6.0 vs Windows Mobile 6.1 thread here (only one day old since the last post). I see you posted in it too.
To summarise, for me the HTC official WM 6.0 ROM is miles ahead of their latest WWE WM 6.1 version in terms of general reliability, speed of GPS functioning and reception strength and even simplicity (including WMP program related files not being dumped into my microSD cards music folder). As for customised ROMs, there are posts about that in the same thread.

The site is meant to be how it is. If you never read and do the research yourself you will never figure out how to do this on your own. Yeah, it may be hard to start, I think my first flash took several hours, reading and re-reading the directions, but now I can flash + get all my apps and settings right in less than a half hour. And about how fast the ROMs are, there is really no way to judge that, because they are all updated very frequently and most people re-flash, new bugs show up, things slow down, things speed up, it would just be too hard to keep track of it all in one spot, and it is alot easier to just read. You really need to use a ROM for a few days to get a feel for it, and you can use something like PIM backup so you won't actually lose anything between flashes. Battery life can't be judged good either, because it seems that radios perform differently in different areas, so everyone is always searching for that perfect radio, which is ever-elusive, some get a GPS fix in 10 seconds, but eat 30% of the battery doing it. Some take 3 minutes but you can talk for 324 hours before the battery dies (exaggerations) There are just too many options and too many combinations of radio/ROM/SPL/location that it would be some form of retarded to track it all, and on top of that, all of these people here do this on there own time and dime. Sure there are donations, but no one can pay the rent with the donations received here, why ask them to take more of their time to test and keep detailed statistics (BTW, just because they cooked a ROM dosent mean they magically know if you will like it or not). Last thing, do you buy pants based on online reviews? No? Thats because your ass is different from mine, my ROM might not tickle your fancy, just like when you try on some pants that don't work or fit, what do you do with a ROM? Try a different one. Not meaning to bust your balls, but this is not a simple process, and you've got to do some reading. Yeah, it sucks, but so does not being able to take a pill and instantly know calculus.

Actually, this sort of response is exactly what I was hoping to get.
Sure, different people have different preferences, and posting opinions and justifying their choices is something us novices can learn from. It gives us a starting point to research the ROMs which look most promising.
Regarding the battery life and radio thing - I know, but the thread on V6.0 vs v6.1 specifically mentioned different battery life. I'm sure most of you guys are using suitable radios, I mean you aren't going to choose one for crappy performance are you? So this indicates that the OS version (or the radios available for them) have different performance.
I've already done a lot of reading, but the sad fact is, I still don't have the answers to some basic questions. I do believe (from what I have read here) that a WM6.0 ROM will be faster and more stable than a V6.1 ROM, but I don't know to what extent. Is the difference noticeable? Do the latest Hyperdragon and Manila ROMs make the kaiser the zippy usable phone we wanted when we chose it?
So, even if people just post what ROMs they currently use, why they chose them, how they compare with others they may have used, and give us the benefit of their views and expertise, I think some of us could learn a huge amount.
So, I'm really not trying to be a whiny pain in the butt, just learn a lot more to help me with research.

I actually have an idea, if the MODs would let it fly and possibly sticky it: A comprehensive, detailed ROM review thread. I could make a post for each ROM a user submits a review to me for, and then take the ones that actually have decent content and recommendations and aren't like "Yeah I really enjoy this rom, great rom" and edit the posts accordingly, or have one giant post, or perhaps a wiki page if one doesn't already exist for that purpose.
I'm not much on programming or that great with technical skills to cook, but an up to date review thread could definitely be my way of being able to give back to the community.

i guess you didnt search first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409867&highlight=rom+comparison

yeah, figured someone probably got the idea before now. I've never seen that tick through the threads though, guess that's why. When he starts updating again the mods oughta sticky it. My bad on an unoriginal idea.

For starters, if you have an issue with a MOD closing a thread, please PM them. Do not call them out in public.
Second: The previously mentioned thread was closed because there are rules against "best ROM threads" because as Jimmy said, ROMs are very subjective, and there is no definitive answer to suit everyone.
Third: This thread is now being closed as well. As it has already been said, you need to do your research on the different ROMs available. It only takes a few minutes to read up on any given ROM because the chef usually updates one of the first few posts with reported issues and their fixes.
If you require any further clarification, please refer to the announcement at the top of the Kaiser forums.

Question about ROMs

Hello all,
Just recently purchased an HTC Fuze with AT&T.
Being familiar with flashing firmwares and ROMs on several devices I understand that it IS a trial and error method of seeing which one you prefer or suits your needs best. However, I think I need more basic understanding of them to help me decide what I'm even looking at.
- What was the initial purpose for people developing ROMs? Just for aesthetic purposes, to change the look of the phone?
- What are the benefits to be gained in battery power and operation of TouchFlo?
- Again, I understand that everyone has different tastes and will therefore loike different ROMs but what differentiates them? Is one considered better built than others? More features, less glitches, crashing, etc?
- Clearly, it must be possible to somehow find a list of all apps that can be added and add just the things you want by yourself?
Finally, is there one good tutorial that explains EVERY step from beginning to end? As always with these kinds of things, there are lots of instructions lying around but most of them speak to people who already know all the jargon and terms. Or they refer to apps as though you know what they're talking about. "noob tutorial" doesn't mean anything if it's not easy to use for someone who's never applied a ROM.
Thanks a lot guys, being new here, I'd really appreciate any help you might offer.

[IDEA] - Developer should unite their ROMs

Hi,
I see that we have many many roms and 2 types of Sapphire (32B and 32A)
Now I have an idea to help users to install and change rom easierly.
Please read all idea before replying. Some ideas relate to others.​
1. All developer should make 2 choices : 32A rom or 32B rom
2. 32B rom have data/app_s. Running system application on flash memory is more stable and faster than running on ext partition sdcard
3. Recovery should have new feature : Wipe data except data/app_s
Amon_RA should add this feature in his recovery.
4. Developers should remove his own theme, 3rd application (which can download from market), moded application ... from rom, rom will be more stable and smaller
5. If developer want share his theme or moded application or add new feature, he should share extend update in an update_extend.zip on his topic. I suggest him to use 1 folder on sdcard and command *.sh file
If you used iPhone, you will see that moded FW of iPhone OS doesn't include theme, extend application (which can download from Appstore). Why can't we do that? I think almost people just want to find a stable rom without theme, without extend application

Some good ideas
+1 from me
Moar standardization pleez

Sounds like the OP is ill-informed, and wants an iPhone.

funbacon said:
4. Developers should remove his own theme, 3rd application (which can download from market), moded application ... from rom, rom will be more stable and smaller
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i've seen a few of these in the dream forum.
the developer releases the rom as a base package. ie. rom only, no (or very few customisations).
then add on packs are released to add 3rd party apps and customisations.
eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this developer has released 4 different roms. each one comes as a base rom that is rooted, and each rom also then has an expansion pack.
themes are then installed as separate downloads.
the post is also very clearly laid out. i wish more developers took the time to create such understandable threads.

Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.

ice_prophecy said:
Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Good Say My friend

seems like a pretty simple request. but what was said earlier has merit as well, since it is really the developer's choice since its done for free.
but yeah, some sort of options like Enthomer is nice. But then again those updates made by AmonRa and Cyanogen is awesome as well. Fast, stable and useful.
Oh, and I strongly support the part on the way the threads are made. some are really easy to follow up on for change logs and stuff, some are messy.

funbacon said:
If you used iPhone, you will see that moded FW of iPhone OS doesn't include theme, extend application (which can download from Appstore). Why can't we do that? I think almost people just want to find a stable rom without theme, without extend application[/B]
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Search the board (and the Android Market) for MetaMorph which does exactly that.

+1
well, although 'm not a dev, but as users this idea is pretty workable. at least we had lesser unneccesary thread and will look more neat and tidy. thats what make xda more professional and classy. way to go devs. +1 to the idea.
thanks.

OP, good idea, but not everyone may think like you, including the DEVs. There is nothing wrong with what you are stating, but it has been mentioned before that different DEVs want to work on different things; some people want to be unique.
One more thing, can you please not use the word should so much, please?
My wife uses it all the time..."you should clean this" " you should go here" " you should say this". thanks.

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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Agreed. Although some of the requests are somewhat reasonable, it's up to the devs to decide what they want to do with their free time and they are dedicating so much of it to making such great contributions to begin with.

We're not paying for the dev's services, so i dont think we have much pull on how they design their ROMS (nor should we)
I think if you want a specific ROM a specific way. YOU should be learning how to code and cook ROMS for yourself.

OzJD said:
Sounds like the OP is ill-informed, and wants an iPhone.
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Read and lol'd. This is probably pretty close to the truth.

Well I for one salute the OP for finally taking a stand and telling the devs what we really want. After all it is all about ME and what I want and they should bloody well be grateful that I even bother to tell them what is wrong with their work, and they should fix it faster. I am a busy guy and can't be bothered to figure out this stuff for myself....
If any of that even vaguely resonates with you... here is a very small clue, completely free of charge...
The devs do this work for their own reasons. Some do it for the challenge, some do it for fun, some do it because they want something different, some do it for the glory. However, they all share it and make the results of their hard work available for the benefit of us end user types. Many even provide free support and hand holding, answering the same questions over and over.
You can politely ask for things to change. If you structure your request well enough and it makes sense, some devs may see the benefit and change. Others will not. Trying to dictate standards of documentation, presentation, features, or packaging just is not going to work, and quite frankly why should it. They are not doing it for you, you are just benefiting as a side effect of them being willing to release their work.
I am sure if you were willing to pay regular software developer rates for a particular feature set, you could find folks willing to accommodate you. Unless you are willing to do that, consider that you already get far more than you pay for.

rydr1 said:
OP, good idea, but not everyone may think like you, including the DEVs. There is nothing wrong with what you are stating, but it has been mentioned before that different DEVs want to work on different things; some people want to be unique.
One more thing, can you please not use the word should so much, please?
My wife uses it all the time..."you should clean this" " you should go here" " you should say this". thanks.
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I'm Vietnamese and my English is not good. I just know saying " you should do something" is better than saying "you have to do something" or "you must to do something"

ice_prophecy said:
Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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So I guess we should also stop giving developers suggestions and bug reports, because who wants to fix bugs for enjoyment? I disagree quite a lot with your post; it is in fact our role to make requests. How are ROMs supposed to get better without the input of its users? You completely contradict yourself by saying that we should not "make requests" but we should "be supportive," because by making requests, you are being supportive. By trying to better the project, you are being far more supportive than a silent user.
It's not like funbacon's suggestion has malicious intent. Neither is he trying to dictate what devs should and should not do. You don't have to agree with all of his points, but dismissing the whole thing because of one point, or the fact that he referenced the iPhone, is stupid. It's a suggestion, which most of you have said is a good idea, yet don't think it should be incorporated because... of the vocabulary used? Or maybe it's some other reason, but I have yet to see another valid reason.
Will this work in practice? That's another discussion. But I believe having some standards and general guidelines will be immensely helpful and make it simpler to try different ROMs.
Rydr1, you need counseling. Or a divorce.

bjtheone said:
Well I for one salute the OP for finally taking a stand and telling the devs what we really want. After all it is all about ME and what I want and they should bloody well be grateful that I even bother to tell them what is wrong with their work, and they should fix it faster. I am a busy guy and can't be bothered to figure out this stuff for myself....
If any of that even vaguely resonates with you... here is a very small clue, completely free of charge...
The devs do this work for their own reasons. Some do it for the challenge, some do it for fun, some do it because they want something different, some do it for the glory. However, they all share it and make the results of their hard work available for the benefit of us end user types. Many even provide free support and hand holding, answering the same questions over and over.
You can politely ask for things to change. If you structure your request well enough and it makes sense, some devs may see the benefit and change. Others will not. Trying to dictate standards of documentation, presentation, features, or packaging just is not going to work, and quite frankly why should it. They are not doing it for you, you are just benefiting as a side effect of them being willing to release their work.
I am sure if you were willing to pay regular software developer rates for a particular feature set, you could find folks willing to accommodate you. Unless you are willing to do that, consider that you already get far more than you pay for.
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So... all the developers here make ROMs for themselves, but are nice enough to post it for everyone else to use?
Wow, haha. What a distorted view you have there. (Most?) developers aren't as selfish as you think they are. Developers make ROMs so the people who visit this forum can benefit from them, or at least that's the general reason. Why do you think they release updates often to fix bugs or add new functionality, or address issues and suggestions brought up by users?
Or, if I were to look at it from your point of view: users are just tools that devs use to make their ROM better.
Yeah, no. You shouldn't think so lowly of devs here. They should be appreciated, you know.

1.I will say that i've had android since day 1 and funbacon was around at that time to. helping and making changes himself to certain roms and apks etc...and helped other people, so he shouldnt be treated as a noob that doesnt know what he is talking about or that he is whining because that is not the case.
2. He made a suggestion that has to do with development and posted in the correct spot and he still hears **** from it? when there are people posting in deveoplment forums that has nothing to do it " what rom is the best, or what phone should i buy" and they dont get as much **** as your handing to someone that made a DEVELOPMENT suggestion and a good one. in the correct section. so people shouldnt be downing him for his work/suggestions
p.s funbacon...nice to see you around again

funbacon said:
I'm Vietnamese and my English is not good. I just know saying " you should do something" is better than saying "you have to do something" or "you must to do something"
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No, funbacon, you took it wrong. Im just kidding about using that word. there is nothing wrong with you using it, there is something wrong with my wife using it.
I was just adding a little fun to the thread.

Project RomView

Hi @all,
I'm posting this on XDA because I think most flash-a-holics "live" here and I'm sure most (if not all) of you know the problem.
You want to buy a new phone and you are looking for ROMs, check if the bootloader is easily unlockable etc.
As of now you have to do multiple Google searches and go through about 5 forums until you have found the answer you want.
Or you already have your phone and are looking for a new ROM.
So you're browsing the XDA section for your device and find about a thousand threads with ROMs and eventually you take one of the big ROMs you've already known since your first flash (speaking of CyanogenMod, AOKP, MIUI and so on)
So wouldn't it be cool (and I think it would) if all was just on one site easily discoverable and you were presented just the information you need?
That's what I'm trying to achieve with Project RomView.
I hope it's understandable what I mean.
Because I know it's quite impossible to do it all alone I'm looking for people (<10) who like the idea and would be ready to contribute in any form.
And please only if you really want to!
I'm looking for people who can do one of those things:
- Do UI/UX design.
- Code an Android app
- Have good knowledge about web-development (i.e. PHP, JavaScript,...)
- Know how to work with databases (preferably MySQL)
- Cook ROMs themselves and can help telling what they need to have in such a platform, so that they would offer their ROMs on it.
- and maybe some more people for beta testing and so on.
Or if you just want to give your own two cents, feel free to tell me what you think.
I'm looking forward to hearing every opinion (as long as it is constructive. If you just want to tell me that I suck, you can keep it for yourself, thanks!).
Cheers,
land.apfel
PS: I'm not sure if I'm in the right section. If I'm not, please move the thread. Thanks.
PPS: I have already achieved some very early progress but I don't want to give out anything else as of now.

Reserved (just in case)

Also reserved (just in case the first case is not case enough )

If you want i can help with graphic

Thank you very much for offering your help, but unfortunately I think it's hopeless to do any efforts as long as there aren't any developers who're ready to offer their ROMs on RomView.

Is there an "plain English" change log for the CM "M Snapshot" builds?

Is there an "plain English" change log for the CM "M Snapshot" builds?
I know where to find the technical list of changes is for the Cyanogenmod nightlies but is there a more plain English list of highlighted changes for each M build? I am referring to something like we see in Play store apps. For example, I know that this new M build incorporates the built in SuperUser function but I'm not sure what other significant updates were made.
Just curious.
Thanks!

I'm going to just say no since that's not what CM does. Best bet would be to read an android blog article about the latest CM monthly release details.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
I'm going to just say no since that's not what CM does. Best bet would be to read an android blog article about the latest CM monthly release details.
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What he said.
What is posted is plain english. If you cant understand it then maybe you should sit back and spend a few days doing some research.

I had checked the blogs and only found info about the superuser integration and pie controls. I read them regularly. I get what you're saying about CM people not making their own change logs. At least I know that much now. That confirms that I shouldn't be searching their site. Thanks.
As for being told to do more research... I know you are a moderator but I was a little thrown by that comment.
The site I am already aware of and have sought information from is: http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/
Is this the site you refer to as being in plain english? It contains items such as:
"eat: Eat using adb sideload"
and
"Revert: "Allow using DroidDoc build."
That isn't plain English to me.
I also try to check through through the Google+ CM page for "plain English" updates on what is happening but the problem there is that they are posting info on so many devices, it's hard to filter out what's going on. That's also where I found out about pie controls.
I looked on Google in general for version info, change log, etc. No luck. So, I came here in my research attempts to see if anyone might already know of a site/someone that is knowledgeable in this area and takes info like that (above) and summarizes the main changes on one page. In my experience, I have found that there are people that all sorts of great things as a service to the android community. That's all I was asking. I didn't realize I would be told that I should go research somewhere else.
Maybe you didn't mean it this way but it comes off as telling me to go away and not waste space on this forum if I'm not smart enough to understand that kind of change log info.
Normally, I let these things slide but I wanted to tell you how it came off to me. I still love this forum. I've learned SO MUCH here. I would never have been able to root my phones and tablets without it. As a moderator, I'm sure you are part of the reason it's such a great place. It was just this once instance that seemed a little off.
Thanks.

PaulQ602 said:
I had checked the blogs and only found info about the superuser integration and pie controls. I read them regularly. I get what you're saying about CM people not making their own change logs. At least I know that much now. That confirms that I shouldn't be searching their site. Thanks.
As for being told to do more research... I know you are a moderator but I was a little thrown by that comment.
The site I am already aware of and have sought information from is: http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/
Is this the site you refer to as being in plain english? It contains items such as:
"eat: Eat using adb sideload"
and
"Revert: "Allow using DroidDoc build."
That isn't plain English to me.
I also try to check through through the Google+ CM page for "plain English" updates on what is happening but the problem there is that they are posting info on so many devices, it's hard to filter out what's going on. That's also where I found out about pie controls.
I looked on Google in general for version info, change log, etc. No luck. So, I came here in my research attempts to see if anyone might already know of a site/someone that is knowledgeable in this area and takes info like that (above) and summarizes the main changes on one page. In my experience, I have found that there are people that all sorts of great things as a service to the android community. That's all I was asking. I didn't realize I would be told that I should go research somewhere else.
Maybe you didn't mean it this way but it comes off as telling me to go away and not waste space on this forum if I'm not smart enough to understand that kind of change log info.
Normally, I let these things slide but I wanted to tell you how it came off to me. I still love this forum. I've learned SO MUCH here. I would never have been able to root my phones and tablets without it. As a moderator, I'm sure you are part of the reason it's such a great place. It was just this once instance that seemed a little off.
Thanks.
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Ill be honest with you. While it was not meant to come off rude or anything but those are terms your gonna have to learn to read. Android is not a simple thing in the least nor is flashing custom roms. This is a developers site so you will see terms like this used all the time. The best thing I can say is to spend some time learning the lingo and finding out what things mean.
That is plain english on a developers forum.

zelendel said:
Ill be honest with you. While it was not meant to come off rude or anything but those are terms your gonna have to learn to read. Android is not a simple thing in the least nor is flashing custom roms. This is a developers site so you will see terms like this used all the time. The best thing I can say is to spend some time learning the lingo and finding out what things mean.
That is plain english on a developers forum.
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Ok. Thanks for the reply. It's a long term process. I still remember when I didn't know what a nandroid backup was!

PaulQ602 said:
Ok. Thanks for the reply. It's a long term process. I still remember when I didn't know what a nandroid backup was!
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Yeah android will be mainly as it is still a new OS and many changes will come, then we will have to relearn so many things all over again

PaulQ602 said:
I know where to find the technical list of changes is for the Cyanogenmod nightlies but is there a more plain English list of highlighted changes for each M build? I am referring to something like we see in Play store apps. For example, I know that this new M build incorporates the built in SuperUser function but I'm not sure what other significant updates were made.
Just curious.
Thanks!
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Usually the stuff you care about as a user will be understandable (features, etc) if you read the nightlies change logs. The weird tweak stuff I don't understand, but you can click on the change and read comments and sometimes it makes more sense to me. But do you really need to know the reason behind each of the hundreds of changes that happen between each M?
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