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Hey guys getting my evo tomorrow and i was looking through all the themes and they are pretty cool. What do you have to do to the phone to get the launcher to look like that and change icons? is it a program?
Thanks
king.0c said:
Hey guys getting my evo tomorrow and i was looking through all the themes and they are pretty cool. What do you have to do to the phone to get the launcher to look like that and change icons? is it a program?
Thanks
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Are you going on every section and posting a thread with this title that asks questions that are vague and easily searchable?
Well i have different questions that should be in different parts of the forums, I dont understand while people insist on submitting that on the forum. If you wish not to help just move along.
king.0c said:
Well i have different questions that should be in different parts of the forums, I dont understand while people insist on submitting that on the forum. If you wish not to help just move along.
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I am helping you. I told you to use the search, which is going to help you a lot more than you think. Even browsing through these threads, I'm sure you see that a lot of these processes can be a bit extensive. And, especially when you ask vague questions like in the original post, no one can help because you're not saying anything specifically (WHICH launcher are you looking to change to? etc. etc.)
Get it? Gonna' use that search? Hope so.
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Well i have different questions that should be in different parts of the forums, I dont understand while people insist on submitting that on the forum. If you wish not to help just move along.
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I am helping you. I told you to use the search, which is going to help you a lot more than you think. Even browsing through these threads, I'm sure you see that a lot of these processes can be a bit extensive. And, especially when you ask vague questions like in the original post, no one can help because you're not saying anything specifically (WHICH launcher are you looking to change to? etc. etc.)
Get it? Gonna' use that search? Hope so.
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I normally don't like this kind of answer but in this case i would have to agree with TJ, start from the beginning first, have the device rooted and flash your custom ROM then everything will come easier
These guys are just morons. In the time you guys wrote all that crap, you could have just answered his question or atleast guide him.
Even thought you can somewhat modify the appearance, and customize it to your linking, you will need to root your phone in order to modify certain elements.
For beginner I suggest you download a few apps that will allow you to do some minor tweeking. Here's a list of a few apps to start you off.
Launcher pro
Beautiful widgets
Pure calendar
Flickie
Switch pro
Here's a screen shot of my evo.
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f3rrand said:
These guys are just morons. In the time you guys wrote all that crap, you could have just answered his question or atleast guide him.
Even thought you can somewhat modify the appearance, and customize it to your linking, you will need to root your phone in order to modify certain elements.
For beginner I suggest you download a few apps that will allow you to do some minor tweeking. Here's a list of a few apps to start you off.
Launcher pro
Beautiful widgets
Pure calendar
Flickie
Switch pro
Here's a screen shot of my evo.
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So we're morons because we didn't post a broad answer with suggestions of five different things like you? I think you should wisen up before you start slinging around insults that describe yourself more than anyone else.
There's an old saying that goes, "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for the night, but if you teach him to fish, you feed him for a lifetime."
THAT'S the mentality that goes into showing people the usefulness of the search tool. Unless it's something profound or newly developed by that particular person, odds are it's been discussed and can be found with the search tool.
You above just gave him tips to different kinds of launchers, and suggested things like rooting his phone, but didn't post any kinds of links to tutorials or downloads for the apps themselves... are you expecting him to SEARCH for these things himself or what?... exactly.
Get the **** outta' here with that **** guy.
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So we're morons because we didn't post a broad answer with suggestions of five different things like you? I think you should wisen up before you start slinging around insults that describe yourself more than anyone else.
There's an old saying that goes, "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for the night, but if you teach him to fish, you feed him for a lifetime."
THAT'S the mentality that goes into showing people the usefulness of the search tool. Unless it's something profound or newly developed by that particular person, odds are it's been discussed and can be found with the search tool.
You above just gave him tips to different kinds of launchers, and suggested things like rooting his phone, but didn't post any kinds of links to tutorials or downloads for the apps themselves... are you expecting him to SEARCH for these things himself or what?... exactly.
Get the **** outta' here with that **** guy.
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At least I didn't give the guy a smart answer. I gave him an actual answer to my best knowledge. Dickhead.
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f3rrand said:
At least I didn't give the guy a smart answer. I gave him an actual answer to my best knowledge. Dickhead.
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I didn't give him a smart answer, and I not only respected him, but gave reasoning as to why I gave the answer that I did... in fact, the only person to be dissrespectful and give an answer that doesn't truly help is... well... you. LMFAO. IN fact, I think I called you out pretty in depth, and your response was a childish sentence with a "name" inserted. Get real. But, I guess you were "answering me with the best of your knowledge", so I shouldn't expect anything more, eh?
Anyways, have fun with the "flaming". I'm a bit too busy actually theming and trying to have something to contribute to really care about the petty. ;-)
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Wow, haven't seen you in a long time. Thank you for giving this a shot! : )
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Wow, haven't seen you in a long time. Thank you for giving this a shot! : )
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It seems that in some alternate reality it is acceptable to assume that "in your spare time" means cancel all of your plans and get used to fluorescent lighting because daylight is just the glare on your computer screen. Either way, I am downloading some 2 gigs of random ICS stuff and finally received my replacement Macbook, so between projects I will try to get something moving on this.
You rock! Subscribing.
Right now all I have is the sdk version from RootzWiki, which appears was a post of just the modified boot. I have a few Nexus4g builds that claim to work. I have a rebuilt boot image and I am trying to pack all of it together and see what happens so I know where to start.
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Right now all I have is the sdk version from RootzWiki, which appears was a post and abandon build. I have a few Nexus4g builds that claim to work. I have a rebuilt boot image and I am trying to pack all of it together and see what happens so I know where to start.
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Sick, i'm really looking forward to this. Don't overwork yourself though
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Right now all I have is the sdk version from RootzWiki, which appears was a post and abandon build. I have a few Nexus4g builds that claim to work. I have a rebuilt boot image and I am trying to pack all of it together and see what happens so I know where to start.
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i am guessing these first ports will be very alpha due to no real software from google to work with?
Thread cleaned (and it's only a few hours old).
If you have nothing useful to say, DON'T bother posting...
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Thread cleaned (and it's only a few hours old).
If you have nothing useful to say, DON'T bother posting...
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What did I miss? Did the angry beavers try to build another dam? I fell asleep waiting for the new mac to migrate from the old one. Now that everything is moved over I can actually load up what I have and at least move a little closer to posting actual files to play with.
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Real deal? Did source drop and only for you? Cause otherwise this is just another non-working SDK port.
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Real deal? Did source drop and only for you? Cause otherwise this is just another non-working SDK port.
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I guess if you didn't see the previous thread, which was more or less a rick-roll youtube video that said it isn't possible to get anything running, then an understandable first reaction is to make rude comments...
But if you read the thread you are responding to, you would have seen that on the Nexus it is a working build, capable of being used as more than just a proof-of-concept. Then again, I don't expect people to read these days because they are too busy writing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313337
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint-nexus-s-4g-rooting-roms-hacks/127806-rom-ics-sdk-port-wip.html
Best leave the developing to the developers and stop back when there is something to load up and complain about
So getting an SDK port working on a Nexus S is the same as getting it to run on the ThunderBolt?
I'm not saying it isn't possible though I highly doubt it will work. I'm saying don't call it the "Real Deal".
doug piston said:
So getting an SDK port working on a Nexus S is the same as getting it to run on the ThunderBolt?
I'm not saying it isn't possible though I highly doubt it will work. I'm saying don't call it the "Real Deal".
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This is real ICS development, and not a prank so it is as the title says "ICS Development (Real Deal)"
And no, getting a port working on the Nexus S is not the same as getting it to work on the Thunderbolt, which is why there isn't a file in that first post yet. I think you are assuming that the only thing available is the SDK image, though, when the full system dump is out there also.
My previous statement still stands.. Why don't you go shake down some kids for their script source, and come back when there is something here to test.
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Posting threads with no content seems ridiculous. Why not work on the port rather than type sentence after sentence of nonsense in here. Just saying.
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You do know downloads, packing, transferring, uploading, etc do run in the background right? I remember back when threads like this rallied up support and assistance instead of whatever you call what you're doing... For the record I am waiting on a data wipe and a lot of stuff is still installing since the computer only came yesterday.
I can just toss up every little edit I test and brick phones all day long, or I can document the process and release when it hits milestones. That way I can catch input along the way and prevent a lot of wasted time.
Just swapped the boot on the posted Nexus build, changed over all the apn info, and added in all the keylayout and hardware files. Going through and finding everything that needs to be swapped for a straight port, then if it runs I will post up the progress.
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You do know downloads, packing, transferring, uploading, etc do run in the background right? I remember back when threads like this rallied up support and assistance instead of whatever you call what you're doing... For the record I am waiting on a data wipe and a lot of stuff is still installing since the computer only came yesterday.
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Whether you get anywhere or not, good luck
Nothing wrong with doing something just for the challenge of having said you did it and the experience.
I am glad to see someone putting some real effort into getting an ICS port going. And appreciate you posting your progress here along the way. I'm interested in seeing how you get where you get.
Good Luck
As already mentioned, this thread is for relevant discussion of the upcoming port.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute then keep it to yourself.
No *****ing and whining about the probable lack of functionality, no pestering for ETA's and no petty personal playground nonsense.
No more warningsIf this goes off topic again then there will be repercussions.
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As already mentioned, this thread is for relevant discussion of the upcoming port.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute then keep it to yourself.
No *****ing and whining about the probably lack of functionality, no pestering for ETA's and no petty personal playground nonsense.
No more warningsIf this goes off topic again then there will be repercussions.
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Thanks. The good news is that I have a shopping list of what has been changed to go from sdk to working port. The bad news is that I also have a project due Thursday that I need to actually spend some time with.
For anyone with the sdk build, make sure before even trying to run it that you replace all the /system/bin files that just say toolbox with real files or set up symlinks for them. Busybox also needs to be added/replaced in /system/xbin
This will get that version to where you can run logcat and see the EGL errors, but it will also be in a condition to start tweaking files to get the touchscreen running.
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I can't waaaaiiiitttt!!
Take as much time as you need! Your life is more important than this.
I am uploading what I have, but not because it is a huge step forward. I fixed all the commands and added the files that should fix the touchscreen, but didn't on this device.
This is still a step forward from the base build we currently have. At least typing a command no longer results in "toolbox" being displayed instead of results. I reverted everything I tested to make sure the only test changes were absolutely necessary to provide a solid base. I will post a link as soon as it is up.
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Hello,
I'm extremely good with computers and done a few years worth of programming. I saw cornerstone and it looked really good. How would one go about integrating it into a asus or other rom build. I took a look at the source and it looks like a matter of adding the files. Is this somewhat correct? Also if i managed to whip up a version could it brick my device (to the point where I can't reflash or nandroid) from flashing it?
Thanks
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I'm extremely good with computers and done a few years worth of programming.
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Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
horndroid said:
Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
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I never said I was good with android. I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
I would watch where you flash you smart ass comments because you can't judge what someone knows based on a internet comment.
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I never said I was good with android. I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
I would watch where you flash you smart ass comments because you can't judge what someone knows based on a internet comment.
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Well, considering that you know nothing about Android development, and TBH if you were really interested in Android development and had years of programming experience, it should be very easy, provided you know anything about Java, to begin programming Android. But with a few years of programming experience, you should know a lot of Java, right?
I've been in the community for under a year and never did much dev on it because of various other projects. The smartest teacher I ever met once told "If you lie about what you know you are only deceiving yourself". I'm not going to lie, I know nothing about android besides rooting and rom flashing. With that said I wouldn't know how it would be incorporated and what is occurring when you flash it (what is modified).
Now let's put that aside and possibly stop trolling, and get the main focus of this thread.
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Well, considering that you know nothing about Android development, and TBH if you were really interested in Android development and had years of programming experience, it should be very easy, provided you know anything about Java, to begin programming Android. But with a few years of programming experience, you should know a lot of Java, right?
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Java isn't the only programming language that exists. I'm sure you realize that. I can already tell my your abrupt attitude that you have something against me (I'm sure because of the rooting thread). No reason exists why that should occur. It was a simple question where no trolling should reside.
Edit: Maybe I misinterpreted your comment, if so my apologizes. Yes I've been doing java for the last 6 months (on and off but I've came back fully for the last month). The other months were simple learning and reverse engineering(Which the 5 months could be questionably be worthless seeing that after I went back to the code I was reverse engineering everything made 25 times more sense then before)
Android is based on java. It uses a linux kernel. You should familiarize with these. No I wasn't being snide- the rooting thread was weird I admit, but I was actually just giving an earnest answer- you may not be the only one that reads it.
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Hah. If that's really true I don't think you would be asking those questions.
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Listen, smart-ass, you ever heard of specialization? Just because someone is a physicist doesn't mean he knows everything in the field of physics. Just because someone is a programmer doesn't mean he knows everything about programming. If you have an allergic reaction, would you go to a proctologist or an allergist? If the proctologist would admit to his ignorance of someone's allergic reaction, would you question that he's a doctor at all?
I'm an engineer. Would you doubt I'm an engineer if if I told you I know nothing about chemical engineering?
This is why when programmers talk to each other, they don't say "I'm a programmer". Usually, they say "I'm a java programmer" or "I'm a visual basic programmer", etc. I once knew a C++ guy that almost pulled his hair out over the fact that you could only send one value from one method to another in java. Surprise surprise, the languages are designed differently as well.
I give up... not !!!..... but the troll will be no more
I realized right before I posted the last post that nothing will bring you out of your misconceptions.
The OP asked a legitimate question which you are now derailing by grandstanding as if you know anything. You've posted a lot in this thread already and in none of those posts have you been of any help. At the very least, you could help by keeping this post back on track by giving a proper response within topic.
I too am extremely good at computers and have been doing programming since 1982. But for the life of me I also wouldn't know how to integrate Cornerstone into ICS. Now since the poster asked the question relating to that, and you've so far posted more than anybody here in this thread, we are waiting for your answer to the OP's question...if you have any.
horndroid said:
I was doubting his claim that he was extremely good at computer. "Extremely" is the keyword.
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The only misconception here is you think I was doubting the OP's specialization, which I clearly wasn't.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
If you read those two quotes from what you posted, you will see how stupid you look right now.
Horndroid, I think you are talking a lot but you don't really know the IT world...
I'm an IT professionnal, I'm developing in Java for about 4 years now and I don't know anything about Android development...
Do you really think a dev knows every programming language and every platform ?
I don't want to be rude but your answers are realy just spam to me and I really think you don't know what you are talking about !
The OP was just asking a question if you don't have any useful answer to give, avoid spamming his thread !
Horndroid .....not knowing
It seems that right now you're the one specializing in it.
WHY DONT YOU BOTH SHUT UP AND LET PEOPLE ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION
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roflcopterofl, maybe you should ask the mod to delete this thread and try again. Good luck with finding what you need. Hope this event doesn't persuade you to give up. I hear there are a lot of people interested in working with cornerstone, so someone is bound to have the information you are looking for.
From what I've read from the developer who was working on officially integrating Cornerstone in to CM9 (and then abandoned), the Cornerstone code is a mess and kind of hard to work with. If you're not experienced with Android development specifically, it's going to be tough (although not impossible - just very difficult).
typci said:
roflcopterofl, maybe you should ask the mod to delete this thread and try again. Good luck with finding what you need. Hope this event doesn't persuade you to give up. I hear there are a lot of people interested in working with cornerstone, so someone is bound to have the information you are looking for.
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+1 on this.
I am interested in working on this to. Not chemically, mechanically or even EXTREMELY. Just interested. Please don't tell my allergist or proctologist though
We can get the source code from the Onskreen site or is it on github too?
Woodrube said:
+1 on this.
I am interested in working on this to. Not chemically, mechanically or even EXTREMELY. Just interested. Please don't tell my allergist or proctologist though
We can get the source code from the Onskreen site or is it on github too?
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https://github.com/onskreen/cornerstone
Haha ok thanks. Nothing wrong with a little argument of it leads to progress. I've been doing java for half a year but recently I've really picked it up. The other programming languages were lua (for a day lol), basic, visual basic, Html (markup but still). I do not know every language nor do I claim to. GoodIntentions won that argument by a long shot. My statement wasn't mean to be relative to other's knowledge. It was simply saying that I've done things like this in the past and have no fear. Could a mod lock this before it gets flamed.
Thanks
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
pleaseeeeeeeeee
phonebroken said:
hi could you post some good beginners reading guides on anything related to whatever you do since im new. im new so i ask questions like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392704
actually someone new won't even know what bluestack is.
i have to start reading up on all this stuff. it doesnt have to be on this site, just readings so i have a better understanding of all this
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Since you mentioned your eager to understand what goes on here at XDA I would highly recommend taking a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073370. It contains links to approximately 108 guides that explains everything from what is logcat and compiling Android from source to explaining about MODs and Tweaks, to how to compile and modify your own Android ROMs. Also if you still have any questions feel free to ask me I'll be happy to help you out .
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great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
phonebroken said:
great! though i need an overview guide --
like what is a rom?
why would you want to port or create roms?
why do you want to log?
same with the other topics
none of these seem especially helpful or specific to my problem :/
i think the "Tools and mods,tweaks" and "Misc" sections has the most helpful things
but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there
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To answer your questions:
like what is a rom?
A ROM as defined on the XDA wiki and the Android terms glossary thread is:
The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL. Carriers such as T-mobile or Vodaphone taylor the ROM to their specifications and version numbers do not carry the same meaning across different carriers. IF the carrier you use supports the device well they will usually release regular ROM updates.
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Rom/Firmware:Read-Only Memory and technically speaking, it refers to the internal storage of a device, which is supposed to contain the operating system instructions that needn’t be modified at all during the device’s normal operation.
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why would you want to port or create roms?
Developers create and port ROM's for a variety of reasons. One reason is because they want the latest version of Android on a device that doesn't officially support the latest version of Android. For example the last officially supported version of Android on the Nexus S was 4.1.2 but developers compiled Android 4.3 for it so Nexus S users can enjoy all the latest features and benefits of Android 4.3. A second reason is because developers add features and performance enhancements that the original device manufacturer never could have envisioned or left out. Cyanogenmod, AOKP, and Paranoid Android are all perfect examples of custom ROM's that were developed to increase performance and add many new features. A third reason, is that if you like a ROM but it isn't available for your device, developer's will port it over do the device they want it on (Note: This process can range from very simple to extremely complex) so they have that ROM's features on there device. A fourth reason is theming, some times user's will create custom ROM's that include a heavily modified or changed user interface and then distribute the changes. However ROM's that are just themed and no other changes made are becoming less prevalent due to additions of universal theme engines such as the XPOSED Framework .
why do you want to log?
Logging allows developers to see where the problems are and what is causing certain functionality such as Wifi, graphics, touchscreen, app problems, etc. to not work correctly. The log gives a detailed report of what is not working and a starting point troubleshooting where the error occurs. Developers then look at the logs and fix the error messages they are receiving. Without logs it would be close to impossible to fix any problems you ran into when developing a ROM.
Another set of guides that is an excellent source of information is -NickHalden-'s Guide Ride-From a Newbie to a Dev, Get all you need here. It takes you like you wanted from just understanding the basics, all the way up to developing ROM's and other cool stuff yourself. It also includes a very helpful numerical order that you can follow along so you don't miss any important information along the way. Also I am curious as to what you mean by "but the guides needs to be ranked. there's a lot of bad info out there"? Can you give an example? Additionally you can rate threads and see the threads ratting if they have one at the top of the thread for what users have rated it, this is usually (Though not always) a good indication of how helpful people have found the information in that thread. And if you have any other questions let me know I'm always happy to answer them .
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Regarding a central place to find information the easiest way to find it to often search either using XDA's "Search All Forums" button in the upper right hand corner, or to use Google and search something such as "xda {your search term here}" or "{your search term here} xda" (For example "xda root nexus 10" etc.). Another way to find things is simply browse through the massive amount of helpful information that can be found on XDA simply by browsing around, I have learned countless, countless things this way. If there is a specific subject or topic your interested in let me know and I'll be happy to help you look for it or point you in the right direction. To answer your keyboard question, this is a interesting dilemma as an incoming computer engineering student problems like the one your described are very fascinating to me. I suspect what will happen in the future (2-3 years or sooner) is that we will see fold-able screens that we can roll up and put in our pockets or much more flexible keyboards that you can roll up into your pocket will be developed. But overall the keyboard and real typing experience you mentioned is a very real dilemma.
phonebroken said:
thanks so much! i obviously didn't know what i was getting myself into... you explain these basics really really clearly so you have a talent for it =)
oh the threads do have ratings. didn't notice it. that's great!!
i think that these helpful things should be more central, like the info you gave is very helpful, and places like wikipedia, etc. won't explain it's relevance very well
i have a question on mobile + tablet though. so most people likely don't user their phones to type very much, but being able to type is important to me and i don't think the current state is good
so i wanted to know when you think 'they' will develop a phone that is much bigger but smaller than the smallest current laptop
last i check the smallest was http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Yoga-11S-Ultrabook.96315.0.html
and smallest keyboard were
http://www.ianker.com/product/98APIPAD-02BTA
http://androidspin.com/2012/09/19/j...-worlds-smallest-fordable-bluetooth-keyboard/
or a tablet with a keyboard that is smaller than the current state because it's too big
so basically the current is too small and too big for what some of us need, and i wanted to know if someone can predict when they're come out with the perfect size for some of us
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Something like this maybe?
So I am making a rom. It's written in C++, CSS, and HTML. I need a bit of help, my CSS is rusty so if there's any experts out there I welcome your help. If there's any designers out there well versed in C++ you are more than welcome to join on up. I hope to have a working prototype in the next few days, let's make this the best rom for the OnePlus One there is!
have you tried turning it off and on again?
I am confused. What am I turning off and on again? I just want to make a good rom for this community. I am just asking for help. Please, no jokes. Serious replies only.
I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
superiscch said:
I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
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Why discourage someone like that? You don't know him or what he's capable of. What if someone had said that to the developer of your favourite ROM when he was starting out and he listened? XDA is a place to encourage development, and a place to encourage people who want to learn how to build ROMs. There can never be too many ROMs available, and there can never be too many people/devs working on them. This guy could be the next big thing in the ROM community and all you want to do is shut him down. Unless you're going to contribute in a positive way, maybe don't post.
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A lot of Google and this http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Development
All the best.
timmaaa said:
Why discourage someone like that? You don't know him or what he's capable of. What if someone had said that to the developer of your favourite ROM when he was starting out and he listened? XDA is a place to encourage development, and a place to encourage people who want to learn how to build ROMs. There can never be too many ROMs available, and there can never be too many people/devs working on them. This guy could be the next big thing in the ROM community and all you want to do is shut him down. Unless you're going to contribute in a positive way, maybe don't post.
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Maybe my words sound to hard on a screen but I don't want to discourage him ?
I'm just thinking that he is underestimating the job... He has 3 posts, needs people to do the majority of the job. Just my 2 cents.
But from now on only positive words, apparently negative is not allowed. Good to know...
Xavierdarkness said:
So I am making a rom. It's written in C++, CSS, and HTML. I need a bit of help, my CSS is rusty so if there's any experts out there I welcome your help. If there's any designers out there well versed in C++ you are more than welcome to join on up. I hope to have a working prototype in the next few days, let's make this the best rom for the OnePlus One there is!
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Umm... Building a ROM is kinda different. You don't exactly have to write all the code yourself (that would take a few lifetimes ). You have to use existing stuff, and patch it together the way you like. You can change the coding style and stuff to the way you want. The CM development page would be a great idea to start with getting familiar with all the stuff.
Xavierdarkness, your enthusiasm is awesome. I'm pretty sure your rusty CSS skills are okay though, but you should really pick up some ActionScript if you intend on making the best ROM.
Dude, write it in machine language....that would be the tits
Thank you all for your kind words of encouragement. It means a lot. I hope to draw on my existing knowledge of QBASIC, VB 6, and HTML to help me on this journey. I'll likely have something up in the next few days if anyone would like to check over my QBASIC to make sure I am getting the API right with android. Thanks again, I'll read all the links you guys have provided and will update this periodically.
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I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
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there ya go, way to show some support. never enough roms, but always to many self important people
A new team inside XDA of developers will be a good news.
Perhaps learn must be encouraged and I hate people say that there are too many roms... This is not a marketplace but a place for developers.
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Guys on here who work for or run their own ROM teams, why not invite Xavierdarkness to your team and show him the ropes? Looks like his knowledge is there, just needs some nudging...
I'm curious how one would build a ROM from nothing more than C++, CSS, and HTML....if you don't have the Java how will it run android apps?
#stayparanoid
Pirateghost said:
I'm curious how one would build a ROM from nothing more than C++, CSS, and HTML....if you don't have the Java how will it run android apps?
#stayparanoid
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there are too many inefficient android apps. I think stopping the apps from running is a good thing. more speed! more battery!
cybojenix said:
there are too many inefficient android apps. I think stopping the apps from running is a good thing. more speed! more battery!
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You do realise that your settings menu is an app, your dialer is an app, basically, almost every functionality of your phone is through an app :/
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You do realise that your settings menu is an app, your dialer is an app, basically, almost every functionality of your phone is through an app :/
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of course I know this.
do you realise a dialer, or settings, or anything functional on a device doesn't have to be written in java? *points at TWRP* at the rate they are going, we'll have recoveries that can send/receive texts, and make calls
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of course I know this.
do you realise a dialer, or settings, or anything functional on a device doesn't have to be written in java? *points at TWRP* at the rate they are going, we'll have recoveries that can send/receive texts, and make calls
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Whoops. Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't work well online
Oh damn! The mobile app doesn't even make RDs/FSM/whatever recognisable. Sorry.
Quasar said:
Whoops. Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't work well online
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try the ^sarcasm^ tags
I know this thread is one massive troll though.... It'd be awesome to actually not use java for Android, at least on the core parts. Oh look, GoLang