Ok, finally got my first Android phone, the SGS+, now what?
1). My version is KG1 and most on this forum are other variants. Is this code just regional or what?
2). Rooting. This allows me to have full control over the system. What will this help me with? (Except OverClocking)
3). Custom ROMs. These little "toys" transform your phone and make it better (in a nut shell). How do you flash a ROM and how do you restore to Stock SGS+ FW?
4). Recovery Mode. I heard you need to replace it with a better one in order to OC and change ROMs. How do you do that exactly?
These are the main ones also,
5). My phone is slow at times... I think I have too many apps running at once (After reboot I have 220mb RAM used from 350mb). I think I should Hard Reset and see if that will work?
6). 2.3.3 -> 2.3.4. I can not find the Samsung Page where to get the upgrade (I heard that it`s called 2.3.3 but it`s 2.3.4 and bla bla bla)
So, I would apreciate it if you could help me a little,
Thanks in Advance!
I have the exact same question as you, so thanks anyone who can answer this hopefully.
crisdorya said:
Ok, finally got my first Android phone, the SGS+, now what?
1). My version is KG1 and most on this forum are other variants. Is this code just regional or what?
2). Rooting. This allows me to have full control over the system. What will this help me with? (Except OverClocking)
3). Custom ROMs. These little "toys" transform your phone and make it better (in a nut shell). How do you flash a ROM and how do you restore to Stock SGS+ FW?
4). Recovery Mode. I heard you need to replace it with a better one in order to OC and change ROMs. How do you do that exactly?
These are the main ones also,
5). My phone is slow at times... I think I have too many apps running at once (After reboot I have 220mb RAM used from 350mb). I think I should Hard Reset and see if that will work?
6). 2.3.3 -> 2.3.4. I can not find the Samsung Page where to get the upgrade (I heard that it`s called 2.3.3 but it`s 2.3.4 and bla bla bla)
So, I would apreciate it if you could help me a little,
Thanks in Advance!
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1. Regional firmware, yes...you should stick to it or you might find gsm/3g problems...unless there's a custom firmware like CM7 which is universal like
2. Rooting? lots of advantages...one of them is to install "chainfire3D" get "tegra 2 plugin" and play most of tegra 2 games with high quality graphics...you can use titanium backup to permanently remove systems apps or backup your apps..e.t.c
3. No custom firmware is available, it's a shame, yes it is for the devs specially...ironic..but there's a tool called "odin multidownloader" it helps you flash firmwares...you can get your stock firmware from "samfirmware.com"
4. No such recovery is developed...the name for that recovery is "Clockworkmod" which is not yet developed for this phone. Shame on devs :/ using that you can backup whole firmware so you can restore it incase your device doesn't bootup properly (quite straightforward) also you can install custom firmwares in a .zip format which i really like because that way, you will never mess up your phone or brick it...well exagerated there but it's the best and easiest way to flash a custom firmware
5. Hardreset doesn't get rid of your system apps...you can delete them by rooting the phone then installing titanium backup from market which is free.
6. get 2.3.4 rooted from here....i'm using it and it has no problem whatsoever:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260707
Another good thing about 2.3.4 is that there is a battery drain bug in 2.3.3 which is fixed in 2.3.4 so i strongly recommend you to flash that...
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Thanks shad0wboss for the helpful information.
I do hope devs can make Custom ROMs and Custom Recovery a reality.
But until then, rooting will sufice.
Also, you said that you are using 2.3.4, is that a Universal or I should really stick with my regional-FW?
crisdorya said:
Thanks shad0wboss for the helpful information.
I do hope devs can make Custom ROMs and Custom Recovery a reality.
But until then, rooting will sufice.
Also, you said that you are using 2.3.4, is that a Universal or I should really stick with my regional-FW?
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shouldn't be a problem since my stock firmware is also different than that one and everything's working fine...if it doesn't work out for you, you can always flash back to your stock firmware.
I bought a DS a few days ago and found a few apps require rooting, I am running a complete stock rom (whatever that means) 2.3.3 and I have tried using SuperOneClick, but have always been stuck at Waiting For Device... as the program just freezes, can anyone help!!
if you need temporary root try Gingerbreak (link here). It have to give you root until rebooting
I want a permanent root, as I am re booting my ds nearon everyday, so the temp root is hopeless for me. Can anyone else help?
TotalMusic said:
I want a permanent root, as I am re booting my ds nearon everyday, so the temp root is hopeless for me. Can anyone else help?
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Ok. It was not making sense otherwise...
Remember - once you decide to change your original software you are continuing on your own risk. All the procedures are done multiple times and verified by the community here, but there is always a chance to screw thing up. Going to this for a few apps that require rooting - your call
For permanent root you have to "unlock" your phone for custom software first. This can be done with the Revolutionary tool and will void your warranty (but is the only way to gain permanent root). You can veryify this on the SuperOneClick thread - look for Nandroid lock.
Then you have the following options:
if you want to keep your current ROM use SuperOneClick. This will give you full root and keep your apps and data intact
replace your "completely stock rom" with some of these or this one. Which one to pick is up to you. (the ROMs in the first thread are with Sense 2.1, the other is the latest Stock with Sense 3.0) They will give you permanent root and "completely stock ROM" experience
flash any custom rom (you can pick from here). This will give you permanent root as well and custom goodies
Happy flashing
One extra thing to mention is if you decide to permanent root your ds is definately get Rom manager and I would even spend a lil bit of money for the premium. It's perfect for making those essential backups of your Rom just incase something goes wrong with flashing a new rom or keyboard. Have fun.
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If i wantes to s-on would i be able to turn it back on?
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TotalMusic said:
If i wantes to s-on would i be able to turn it back on?
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Hey man there are a bunch of Sticky Index threads where everything is explained:
Example (all your questions are answered there):
[GUIDE] A Complete Tutorial for the Beginners and Others
Seriously, a quick search first wouldn't hurt wouldn't it?
And I'm pretty sure A LOT of the stickies on the forum WILL answer your question first hand.
Hello everyone, I want to ask if I rooted my phone will my original ROM stay or not ?? and if yes I can still update it like it's unrooted ??
Your original Rom will be untouched, if you install a custom recovery you will not be able to install the OTA updates, if you update you will probably loose your root
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yes on both. but do make a backup if you every want to change it back to the original.
After you do S-OFF, flash the recovery (CWMR 5 or 4ext) and backup your current ROM and save it. You can also find the shipped rom over the internet
I remembered i proper jobbied myself when i first rooted my HTC Desire. I thought i'd get taken to jail lol.
If you don't like the idea after its done, you can always re-install the stock rom from these forums, and all will be well.
However, once you get into this stuff, you'll wonder why you didn't sooner
I am moving my question to a new thread here in the hope it will get more attention:
OK, Firstly, when do I need CWM?
Secondly, I have downgraded my Desire Z from Gingerbread to Frodo and obtained root, S-OFF, etc, using gfree. I know I can upgrade back to gingerbread and want to do this but only if I can do it without losing root. I've seen lots of posts saying gingerbread can't be rooted and one or two saying it can, and others that deal with the upgrade but simply don't say if root will be lost. I assume that if I just install the OTA update offered by HTC, that will undo everything I just did in downgrading and getting root. If I understand correctly, having root is mostly a property of the bootloader and its configuration, so is it possible to re-install gingerbread but without overwriting the bootloader so as to keep root? Is RUU relevant to what I am asking? I hope its OK to post this here, as my only other option seemed to be to start a new thread. Thanks, THANKS!
CWM stands for clockwork mod.It is a custom recovery that replaces the standard recovery,and has much more options than the original.The recovery is like between the bootloader and the actual OS.It allows you to install custom ROMs,partition your SD card,and lots of other stuff that can't be done within the OSor the bootloader.I don't know about your phone in particular,but most HTC'S have Gingerbreak,which allows you to root on Gingerbread,even if it is s-on(although needs an unlocked bootloader though).
Keep this thread updated.
CWM & Gingerbreak.
SunnyChrono6 said:
CWM stands for clockwork mod.It is a custom recovery that replaces the standard recovery,and has much more options than the original.The recovery is like between the bootloader and the actual OS.It allows you to install custom ROMs,partition your SD card,and lots of other stuff that can't be done within the OSor the bootloader.I don't know about your phone in particular,but most HTC'S have Gingerbreak,which allows you to root on Gingerbread,even if it is s-on(although needs an unlocked bootloader though).
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Thanks, I will read up on Gingerbreak and see if it can help with the GB upgrade. My bootloader is unlocked and I have S-OFF, but I only heard about Gingerbreak from you. Is it a tool produced by an xda-developer?
I assume CWM is only for the OS and bootloader and I would still use my Titanium backup for Apps, or can CWM do both? On a completely stock/standard HTC phone can I use CWM first [before doing anything else] to back up the stock HTC ROM that the phone came with? [That would be great if I can!] Is it the best tool for specifically this? Thanks again.
CWM takes a Nandroid backup to your SD card,which is the OS,kernel,apps,data on internal memory,etc.It's better than Titanium backup in this regard,because even if you mess up your phone you can just revert to this backup.It's the best app I know of for this.Only drawback is that it can't operate within the OS,but even then you can use ROM manager which you'll install anyway to boot into it.I think Gingerbreak is developed by a XDA developer,that's where I saw it when I was rooting my Wildfire S.
Keeping root when updating Frodo to GBread
SunnyChrono6 said:
CWM takes a Nandroid backup to your SD card,which is the OS,kernel,apps,data on internal memory,etc.It's better than Titanium backup in this regard,because even if you mess up your phone you can just revert to this backup.It's the best app I know of for this.Only drawback is that it can't operate within the OS,but even then you can use ROM manager which you'll install anyway to boot into it.I think Gingerbreak is developed by a XDA developer,that's where I saw it when I was rooting my Wildfire S.
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Thanks again, last night I took 3 hours to search xda-developer and read what I could about Gingerbreak. Here are my conclusions which may or may not be right:
Everything I read was to do with using Gingerbreak to root a phone that already has GB running on it. As I understand it, it works for some phones running gingerbread, but not all phones. I did not read anywhere that any one has used gingerbreak to root GB on an HTC Desire Z.
I would love to hear from anyone who has tried out gingerbreak on a Desire Z. I think someone more knowledgeable than me, who knows how to get themselves out of trouble if gingerbreak doesn't work should try this. For me I think its not wise at my present level of knowledge.
There are many places in xda-developer [some even with a 2012 date] which say that a Desire Z running GB cant be rooted without downgrading to Frodo. Some of these appear to be knowledgeable developers that would have surely considered the gingerbreak oprion. So I submitt that this strongly suggests that gingerbreak doest work in this case. However it would be great to have this confirmed - perhaps from someone who has tried it.
So I return to my original question:
I know I can upgrade my Desire Z back to gingerbread and want to do this but only if I can do it without losing root. I've seen lots of posts saying gingerbread can't be rooted [on a Desire Z and some other phones] and one or two saying it can, and others that deal with the upgrade but simply don't say if root will be lost. I assume that if I just install the OTA update offered by HTC, that will undo everything I just did in downgrading and getting root. If I understand correctly, having root is mostly a property of the bootloader and its configuration, so is it possible to re-install gingerbread but without overwriting the bootloader so as to keep root? Thanks.
1)Most phones running Android 2.3.3 work(my Wildfire S worked running 2.3.5)
2)I think if it doesn't work it will just say 'Exploit failed' or something of the sort,it's highly unlikely that it would mess the phone up,and even if it did,you could just restore the nandroid backup.
3)You haven't read about Gingerbreak on the Desire Z probably because most people don't stay with the stock ROM after they root it.
And even if Gingerbreak fails,you have a s-off bootloader.So there should be loads of other ways to root it,although they may be complicated.I'd say just try your luck,take a nandroid backup if you're scared,and try Gingerbreak.There's an 80+% chance that it will work,as the desire z runs 2.3.3 AFAIK.
A better idea would be to root, s-off, unlock bootloader at whatever (so in your situation froyo), then flash CWM, and finally flash a ROM. There's a 99% chance somebody made a working ICS ROM for the desire z which was a very popular phone
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gagdude said:
A better idea would be to root, s-off, unlock bootloader at whatever (so in your situation froyo), then flash CWM, and finally flash a ROM. There's a 99% chance somebody made a working ICS ROM for the desire z which was a very popular phone
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Good point,but I think he wants to upgrade to the stock GB.....otherwise why does he need to root it again,as there are MANY gingerbread custom ROMs,let alone ICS.If he wanted to do that,it would be easy for him as he already has s-off and root now all he would need is CWM and a good ROM.
Keeping root when updating Frodo to GBread or choosing a good rooted ROM
Thanks for all your replies. OK here is where I;m at: I have 2 phones, the Desire Z and the MT4G slide. They were both running stock GB unrooted when I got them. I have downgraded the Desire Z to Frodo to get root and S-OFF having read that was the only way to root it. But I would like something later than Frodo [or GB] as long as I can keep root and it is more functional. I have been searching xda for nearly 4 weeks to see if there are any ROMs with full functionality for these phones. A ROM based on ICS or JB would be great, but in every case that I look into I run into problems. Some have issues with camera or video not working, some with leds or the keyboard back light. One says the audio doesn't work. Other ROMs sound really good but they don't explicitly state they work for either of my phones. As all these things work with GB I don't want to go to ICS/JB if it means I'm loosing functionality. It is only for this reason that I asked about returning to GB for the Desire Z whilst keeping root. Root is essential to me as I have a lot of plans that involve running SSH, Telnet, VNC, etc. There seem to be some great ROMs out there for the MT4G but I am told that my MT4GS is completely different and they wont work on it.
Part of my problem is I don't always understand what I'm reading because of terminology. There are references for example to the Glacier or the Sensation, but I haven't yet worked out whether a MT4GS is the same as Glacier or if Glacier refers only to MT4G, in which case does MT4GS have another nickname? I searched the WIKI for HTC phones, but the MT4GS isn't even listed there.
I'm new to Mob phones and Android, but have been programming and a Linux user for a very long time, which has taught me to be cautious and research well before jumping in. Hence my posts for advice / help here. There's nothing better than finding someone who has done it before who can tell you how successful it was. Appreciate any light you can bring even to just one of these matters. Thanks.
HTC mytouch 4g is glacier. HTC mytouch 4g slide is the doubleshot.
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canopic said:
Thanks for all your replies. OK here is where I;m at: I have 2 phones, the Desire Z and the MT4G slide. They were both running stock GB unrooted when I got them. I have downgraded the Desire Z to Frodo to get root and S-OFF having read that was the only way to root it. But I would like something later than Frodo [or GB] as long as I can keep root and it is more functional. I have been searching xda for nearly 4 weeks to see if there are any ROMs with full functionality for these phones. A ROM based on ICS or JB would be great, but in every case that I look into I run into problems. Some have issues with camera or video not working, some with leds or the keyboard back light. One says the audio doesn't work. Other ROMs sound really good but they don't explicitly state they work for either of my phones. As all these things work with GB I don't want to go to ICS/JB if it means I'm loosing functionality. It is only for this reason that I asked about returning to GB for the Desire Z whilst keeping root. Root is essential to me as I have a lot of plans that involve running SSH, Telnet, VNC, etc. There seem to be some great ROMs out there for the MT4G but I am told that my MT4GS is completely different and they wont work on it.
Part of my problem is I don't always understand what I'm reading because of terminology. There are references for example to the Glacier or the Sensation, but I haven't yet worked out whether a MT4GS is the same as Glacier or if Glacier refers only to MT4G, in which case does MT4GS have another nickname? I searched the WIKI for HTC phones, but the MT4GS isn't even listed there.
I'm new to Mob phones and Android, but have been programming and a Linux user for a very long time, which has taught me to be cautious and research well before jumping in. Hence my posts for advice / help here. There's nothing better than finding someone who has done it before who can tell you how successful it was. Appreciate any light you can bring even to just one of these matters. Thanks.
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You're right,ICS and JB ROMs aren't too stable,although the cyanogen mod alpha 6 for the doubleshot seems kind of stable,look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644084
(Take a nandroid backup of gingerbread though,in case you come to a time where you can't take any risks with your phone)
EDIT : CM9 is listed as stable here in the cm download centre http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=&type=stable
And for the desire Z, there seem to be stable cm7 ROMs.Just take a nandroid backup of froyo,you can't go wrong with that.
(P.S.You probably saw these already,but just in case you didn't.)
Hi, my name is Anthony and I have a T-Mobile S5 running the latest version of android (I think it's 5.0.1 or 5.0). I'm kinda a newb with flashing and rooting. I had my phone rooted using towel root a while ago, but I lost that root in an update and it is no longer supportive of my phone.
I'm looking to install custom roms but before I do so, I would like to make a full backup of my current stock touch wiz so I can revert to it in case I don't like the new rom. I also would like to root my phone. Oh, and before anyone tells me that I need to install Odin, I have a Mac running Yosemite.... A lot of people have told me that I need to install clock work in order for this whole process to work.
Recap:
1. Make backup rom
2. Root phone
3. Teach me how to flash roms using a Mac.
4. Include any other important info and links for downloads.
I mainly want to install CM12, but I still want a backup rom to revert to later
Thanks, and please don't post any hate
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Some pro tips, figure out how to use Odin. You'll need it eventually if you want to root and flash roms. Either in a Windows vm or heimdall. If something goes wrong you'll need to flash the stock firmware.
There's a whole forum for your device,http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5. And the best place to ask your specific question is here,http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/help
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