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Rooting, Flashing, Backing up And Installing New Boot Loader

Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks

i'm new to all of this too but ill try to answer some questions. Although, I think this thread should NOT be in development and should be in general. I personally have read through a lot of threads to get the answers that I was seeking for.
As far as backup goes, I think its possible through Odin via dump option? don't quote me on that, I have not had to do that before, nor have I read up on it. bootloader as far as i see, i did not need it.
there is a thread in here with virgin rom request, LOOK for it.
There is NO compiled list of apps that you can or cannot delete, but if you read, there is a dl for BLOATWARE, use that as a template to what you want deleted.
Right now, ODIN is the only way that you can flash your phone, and use the two roms listed in this development thread.
From what i read a deodexed rom just helps with file system and structure. I think?
you will always be able to go back to stock, if you have the virgin rom.
Imo, you should read up/skim through every thread in here to see what is available, problems people are having and the fixes for them. I know there is alot of information in here and it maybe overwhelming, but there were 172 views of this thread without any replies because us noobs need to READ/SEARCH. Thats the answers we'll get if we continue to make new threads. Just fyi if your new to forums.

Moved as not android development.

As newbie you should first read and use search
then if you dont see question you want, you just ask it
And about Roms , well i tried that deox v2.2 and didnt like it , switched to stock with removed bloat and love it more but thats for different thread

Well thanks for you answers and I do apologize for posting this here. I didn't know. I think i will go with what you have done. Stock ROM without bloatware. Did you flash the Stock ROM from this forum? or did you just deleted the apps one by one?
I will do the fota fix as well.

moshe22 said:
Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks
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ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.

ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.
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Thanks man! Really helpful. I will read into these threads and probably will wait for the clockwork to work for SGS4G.
I really don't see the advantage of flashing to Deodexed. Maybe i'm missing something?

Root question before I start

I have a B60 transformer with 3.2.1 HTK75_US_epad-8.6.5.13 on it.
From the reading I have done I should be able to use the 7.1 universal root kit.
My questions are
Where can I get the stock ROM to unroot it and set back to stock if I need to?
Other than updating CWM after using the root kit is there anything else I need to do.
I have rooted my EVO 4g phone and swapped out the rom many times so I'm hoping it is a lot like that but I'm new to this and just do not want to make any mistakes. I have tried to search and read as much as I can but there is tons of info on the forum and lots of it does not match or is very old.
Sorry if this is a newbee questions but I have to learn somewhere.
If you have links please post them and I will read that info.
Thanks
Brandon

ASUS has the stock roms on their website, but the 8.6.5.13 probably isn't available yet as a full rom, just an OTA. There are older versions available, such as 8.6.5.9, but I'm not sure if you can flash to an older version with the built in updater. Once the full rom is released, chances are better you can update back to stock. With nvflash and your B60, you can flash anything you want.
I haven't tried it, but I think that that root tool will let you back up before you flash.

gee one said:
I haven't tried it, but I think that that root tool will let you back up before you flash.
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Yes, it will ask you if you want to backup before you root but it tells you it could take 4 to 5 hours.

I have rooted and unrooted with this below method many times. I don't need to go looking for a stock rom...it simply reverses the procedure as far as I know...look into it...now if you go for a custom rom your on your own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303

Thank you everyone for your answers, I did the full backup which did not take long as I had done a reset before I started and wiped everything.
The root was painless and is done.
For now I think I will stay with the stock ROM but I'm now going to look for a Kernel to OC it to 1.2-1.4 if I can.
Thanks again
Brandon

Rooting and then recovering to stock - How to?

I am thinking of rooting my note 10.1 (GT-N8010). I understand how to root it, since I have read through a few threads about that, but my question is about when, or IF, I'd want to return the software to stock. I have never done this before, so I need practically all help and tips regarding reversing the rooting.
1. What must I do BEFORE rooting the tablet?
2. After I have rooted it and installed a rom, How do I unroot the tablet and install stock android?
Again, I need all tips and please don't use abbreviations. Thank you

Sari95 said:
I am thinking of rooting my note 10.1 (GT-N8010). I understand how to root it, since I have read through a few threads about that, but my question is about when, or IF, I'd want to return the software to stock. I have never done this before, so I need practically all help and tips regarding reversing the rooting.
1. What must I do BEFORE rooting the tablet?
2. After I have rooted it and installed a rom, How do I unroot the tablet and install stock android?
Again, I need all tips and please don't use abbreviations. Thank you
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If you make a nandroid backup right after you install your custom recovery going back to stock is as easy as flashing the nandriod any time you want to go back.Alternatively,you could download the stock rom from http://www.sammobile.com and flash the md5 file in odin to get back to stock.Read up on this stuff in the 10.1 general and development forum threads because there is way too much information to type it all in this post.You will find everything you need to know in these threads including walk through videos.

[Completed] Root Galaxy S2 with Mac OS X Yosemite

I'm completely new to the whole rooting scene, so I need help with that, and from what i heard rooting with a Mac can be quite the task, given that I'm also using an updated version of Mac OS, i have been having a hard time figuring out how to flash files to my old S2 (which for the record, i don't use it that much, and if I were to brick it it wouldn't be the end of the world, just want to be introduced into the world of rooting. Mainly, Cyanogenmod was very enticing) So my question i guess is how would i go about rooting my phone. I've downloaded Heimdall in the hopes that i can use it to flash things to my phone.
I can imagine it's quite a simple task and I'm just being a complete dunce, but I can't figure out where to get the files to flash to install the recovery thats needed to install the CyanagenMod. I've tried to install clockwork mod recovery but couldn't figure it out with a mac, and mod manager (which i have come to find out i need my device to be rooted in order to use it [AGGGHH!!!])

Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. You could try this,http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598203. Or this,http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118100
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S7 T-Mobile help regarding Root & Rom

Hi,
I want to root my device and install a stock Android Rom if
there is such a Rom available Need guide, otherwise I'd just want to debloat my phone! Currently running T mobile 7.0 So can i flash 8.0 g930u Rom on it or I need to go T mobile 8.0 first
Thx

first off, do yourself a favor if you are going to play, take a backup of your system and download the exact firmware you have, just look at last 4 digits of build and add a t for tmobile, as for flashing a stock rom, that isnt what youre wanting i dont believe, just root your phone as it is without the u firmware, use an app such as titanium backup and either freeze unwanted apps or delete them, again, be sure you are familiar because deleting some apps will harm system, if this is too much, go on and flash the u firmware and be done, your choice,,at this time I havent seen a custom rom or even a port, so stock is about it
If you need assistance in rooting, msg me or google it and read through the lines, theres alot of useless info out there, good luck

$avage$3 said:
first off, do yourself a favor if you are going to play, take a backup of your system and download the exact firmware you have, just look at last 4 digits of build and add a t for tmobile, as for flashing a stock rom, that isnt what youre wanting i dont believe, just root your phone as it is without the u firmware, use an app such as titanium backup and either freeze unwanted apps or delete them, again, be sure you are familiar because deleting some apps will harm system, if this is too much, go on and flash the u firmware and be done, your choice,,at this time I havent seen a custom rom or even a port, so stock is about it
If you need assistance in rooting, msg me or google it and read through the lines, theres alot of useless info out there, good luck
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can you please tell the root procedure ?
and reverting to nougat if possible, mine is CRF1 oreo.
Thanks you